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State Police: All 26 Newtown victims shot with assault rifle

Lt. J. Paul Vance, the face of an ongoing Connecticut State Police investigation into worst grade-school shooting in U.S. history, Thursday debunked media and Internet reports that Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza killed his victims with handguns and not the Bushmaster XM-15 E2S rifle that is now the focus of a proposed federal assault-weapons ban.

All 26 of Lanza's victims were shot with the .223-caliber semi-automatic rifle, said Vance, who bristled at claims to the contrary during an interview with Hearst Connecticut Newspapers.

"It's all these conspiracy theorists that are trying to mucky up the waters," said Vance, the longtime state police spokesman.

Multiple Second Amendment and gun owner websites have attempted to cast doubts on whether the Bushmaster XM-15, a type of AR-15 rifle that is currently legal, was used in the Dec. 14 carnage done by Lanza.

Some have cited a Dec. 15 "Today" show video clip from the day after the shooting, in which NBC News Justice Department correspondent Pete Williams said that four handguns were recovered inside Sandy Hook Elementary School and that the Bushmaster rifle was found in the trunk of a car owned by Lanza's slain mother, Nancy Lanza.

"There's no doubt that the rifle was used solely to kill 26 people in that school," Vance said.

Twenty children ages 7 and under and six female educators were killed when Lanza forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School and sprayed the occupants with bullets before turning a gun on himself.

Vance said he made it abundantly clear during his media briefings since the tragedy that Lanza carried out the shooting with the Bushmaster.

"I personally articulated that probably a dozen times in Newtown," Vance said.

The only time Lanza used a handgun at the school was to commit suicide, according to Vance.

The state police went so far as a to issue a news release on Jan. 18 listing the weapons recovered from inside the school, which included the Bushmaster, a Glock 10mm handgun and a Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun. An Izhmash Canta-12 12-gauge shotgun was taken from the trunk of the suspect's car.

Sales of AR-15 assault rifles would be banned under the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013, which was introduced Thursday on Capitol Hill and is being sponsored by Connecticut Sens. Richard Blumenthal and Chris Murphy, as well as Newtown's new U.S. representative, Elizabeth Esty. Democratic Rep. Jim Himes, whose district immediately borders Newtown, is also a co-sponsor.

"There's no question that the AR-15 was used, the Bushmaster shot those children with multiple rounds and was instrumental in the massacre," Blumenthal told Hearst Newspapers on Thursday after a Capitol Hill news conference. "Those children and educators might well be alive today if not for the assault weapon and high-capacity magazines."

A message thread titled "AR-15 was NOT used in Newtown CT Shooting!" appeared Wednesday on the website AR15.com, which accused media outlets such as CNN and host Piers Morgan of running with the story to promote its liberal anti-gun agenda.

"I remember in the initial hours of this shooting, the police said they found the rifle in the car," the anonymous poster wrote. "But the administration-controlled (mainstream media) had a pre-planned attack already waiting, to ban so-called assault weapons and jumped on that line of reporting, knowing it was a lie, which included people like Piers Morgan who said the shooter used an AR-15 that shoots hundreds of rounds per minute, as if it were a machine gun."

Blumenthal had not heard of the chatter.

"The shotgun was in the trunk of the car," Blumenthal said. "The Bushmaster and two pistols were brought into the schoolhouse."

In a statement, Himes questioned whether gun owners need the firepower of weapons like the Bushmaster.

"It does not take a military-style gun to kill a deer, have fun at the shooting range or protect your family," Himes said. "This bill strikes an ideal balance between keeping our communities safe and preserving the freedoms of American gun owners. I look forward to working with my colleagues to send this bill to the president's desk."

A message seeking comment from Bushmaster Firearms International was left Thursday at its Madison, N.C., headquarters.

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I would say passionate.

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Matt 26z

Why did the medical examiner that removed the bullets from those kids state that no rifles were used in the shooting?

Mr Pheer

Because they were from handguns.

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GrantMercury

Where did you see that information?

This is directly from the CT State Police.

"There's no doubt that the rifle was used solely to kill 26 people in that school," Vance said.

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GrantMercury

Not according to the CT State Police.

"There's no doubt that the rifle was used solely to kill 26 people in that school," Vance said.

Read more: http://www.greenwichtime.com/newtown...#ixzz2JQwvJxNN

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it was actually a Squirt Gun

L-Pink

Again ? Seriously ? I'll pay for your first two counseling sessions if money is a problem.

DTK

That certainly contradicts a lot of other evidence out there

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I don't understand why conspiracy/gun wackos embrace easily disputed facts with outright lies.



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Who cares, small % compared to handgun shootings Daily.

Hey look, Chicago, STRICT GUN LAWS
Mom loses 4th Child to gun violence.. Glad it is working.
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Seriously, People need to focus on bigger things, if you want to "SAVE" children, or anyone for that matter.

5 Children a day die from abuse and neglect.

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They still died though right? If a hand gun did that much damage then what would an assualt rifle do?

Dirty F

Because they don't care about facts. We're talking about some of the dumbest people around.

Mr Pheer

Quoted for the truth.

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We don't need gun bans, we just need very strict punishments for anyone caught with a illegal gun.

crockett

They were .22 caliber rounds that is a "popular" alternative non mil spec for the AR15 and even the Ak47. The guns are converted to shoot the smaller ammo largely because it's much cheaper.

That is what he used..

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Vendzilla

.223 is a non mil spec.

.22 is just cheaper

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dyna mo

where did you get that info? not disagreeing, i just have not seen anything stating this.

Tom_PM

Wait, there are people who thought he used handguns to kill them?

One of those bloated talk radio nuts must have repeated it a lot so now it's "fact?"

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Rochard

It's very easy for conspiracy theorists to throw a hint of doubt on something. All they need to do is grab a statement by a newscaster that wasn't fact and only said because they didn't have all of the facts ("looks like they pulling an assault rifle out of his trunk") and suddenly conspiracy theorists accept it as fact. I loved the questions about the hunter too. Seems there was a hunter in the woods near the school and they spotted him from a helicopter and chased him down. Might seem odd to most of us in the suburbs, but in the country when it's hunting season people hunt. Even though police released a statement saying the hunter was questioned, conspiracy theorists continue to harp on it like it's the grassy knoll shooter or something.

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Rochard

Because the Department of Homeland Security needs to arm the security guards at the airports?

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crockett

I have no clue where it was linked from now as it's been some time. However the model Bushmaster they said he used was bought from Walmart. In one of the many articles written on it the gun that was linked was pulled from Walmart's webpage and it was said that it had the .22 conversion.

Also even CNN article when it happened clearly quotes the "Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance" as saying the primary weapon used in the attack was a "Bushmaster AR-15 assault-type weapon,".

from CNN

Adam Lanza brought three weapons inside Sandy Hook Elementary school on December 14 and left a fourth in his car, police said. Those weapons were a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm. In the car he left a shotgun, about which police have offered no details. Lanza used one of the handguns to take his own life, although police haven't said whether the gun was the Glock or the Sig Sauer.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/con...uns/index.html

The shot gun in the trunk that the gun nuts keep saying was proof there was no Assault Rifle is the shot Gun that the police said he did not use. Obviously, it takes too much brain power for them to put 1+1 together and realize that yea the guy didn't use a shot gun that was in his car trunk, but doesn't mean he didn't have an Assault Rifle.

The cops have said over and over it was an Assault Rifle used. The only people claiming otherwise are uninformed gun supporters that keep repeating the bullshit false information as if it were fact.

Even if it really wasn't a .22 converted it was still an Assault Rifle. I just brought up the .22 conversion because that's the gun I saw linked at the time of the shooting and I've seen people say it was pistol cal ammo used (.22) as the reasoning that it wasn't a Assault Rifle.


Secondary... thought on the .22 is perhaps when they talked about it then they meant that it was the .223 Remington and not the standard NATO rounds. Regardless of what ammo the police have said it was Bushmaster Ar-15.

dyna mo

my curiousity was re: the bullet caliber used only.

big difference getting hit between these.



sadly, it prolly took more shots to murder those people with the .22

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Vendzilla

here's for the people that think that it could have not been done by a pistol

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Supz

You said it yourself. They are conspiracy/gun wackos. This guys is a perfect example..


This pic is from a week or so ago. He has made 2-3 new gun threads since then,



hes a wacko

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