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Old 02-04-2013, 10:38 AM   #1
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:2cents Pastor Stiffs Underpaid Waiter; Holy woman fucks the poor.

I know this isn't cutting edge info anymore, but I post to relieve my sense of indignation a bit.

The bitch should be spit on. That poor waitress prolly makes next to nothing. If you can afford to fucking eat out, you can afford to tip properly! To not do so is STEALING.

The poor chick got fired for posting about it. I hope the viral spotlight somehow benefits her and she ends up ok.

http://www.wptz.com/news/national/Wa...v/-/index.html



Apparently the pastor now feels bad. Too late, bitch! You had the chance to emulate Jesus, and you fucking blew it!
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i tip very well.. that being said, i have no problem not tipping.
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The bitch should be spit on!!!
I agree ! ALL NEGROS SHOULD BE SPAT ON!!!



























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i tip very well.. that being said, i have no problem not tipping.
I have no problem not tipping if the server is rude or completely indifferent. But if the server gives adequate service, not tipping them is theft.
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Here's the post on Reddit

in the atheist sub reddit lol

http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comm...y_for_my_rent/
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That stupid cunt needs to be fired from being pastor... Nobody with that kind of ignorance should be in any position of influence... Holy Shit....
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She's mad because she's underpaid. She only gets 10% for preaching the words of many people. While this waitress here gets 18% for actually providing a service to society.
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i tip very well.. that being said, i have no problem not tipping.
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I have no problem not tipping if the server is rude or completely indifferent. But if the server gives adequate service, not tipping them is theft.
i disagree with theft. the person is a dick and probably shouldn't be eating out if they can't afford it

if the restaurant is unable to satisfactorily pay the wages of its workers, there should be no restaurant. pretending its the patrons responsibility on the basis that the workers aren't 'paid enough' is.. just mind numbing
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her problem was they added the tip in the bill
I always tip good with good service, poor service get shit
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I think waitresses make decent money. Even if they only make 10% of the tab as a tip, and run five or six tables an hour... I cannot begin to imagine what the average ticket cost is - must depend on the restaurant... Let's just say they make $5 tip per table, and run six tables in an hour. That's $30 an hour, plus minimum wage. For an entry level position that's not bad at all.

We went to a local restaurant this weekend, very similar to Applebees. Our first time there our ticket was lost, and we waited over an hour to be served. Son of a bitch, the same thing happened this weekend. They lost our ticket again. They gave us our meal for free, but our waitress was so much fun I gave her a $20 tip anyhow.
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i disagree with theft. the person is a dick and probably shouldn't be eating out if they can't afford it

if the restaurant is unable to satisfactorily pay the wages of its workers, there should be no restaurant. pretending its the patrons responsibility on the basis that the workers aren't 'paid enough' is.. just mind numbing
Well, that's the system, and you're well aware of it when your server comes to the table. It's not their fault. It's not their system. Minimum cash wage for tipped employees: $2.13
That's what they get if you don't tip them. http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm

Not tipping is theft unless there is very good reason not to.
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What's funny is this is over a $6.29 tip the dumb bitch didn't want to pay.
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i disagree with theft. the person is a dick and probably shouldn't be eating out if they can't afford it

if the restaurant is unable to satisfactorily pay the wages of its workers, there should be no restaurant. pretending its the patrons responsibility on the basis that the workers aren't 'paid enough' is.. just mind numbing
Minimum wage for servers is $2.13 an hour. I can tell by the way you speak that you are a lousy tipper for one. Two that you've never worked in or owned a restaurant.
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I think waitresses make decent money. Even if they only make 10% of the tab as a tip, and run five or six tables an hour... I cannot begin to imagine what the average ticket cost is - must depend on the restaurant... Let's just say they make $5 tip per table, and run six tables in an hour. That's $30 an hour, plus minimum wage. For an entry level position that's not bad at all.

We went to a local restaurant this weekend, very similar to Applebees. Our first time there our ticket was lost, and we waited over an hour to be served. Son of a bitch, the same thing happened this weekend. They lost our ticket again. They gave us our meal for free, but our waitress was so much fun I gave her a $20 tip anyhow.
What most people don't factor in is the waitress/waiter has to then tipout others. This is generally 3% of sales. Not actual tips made, of sales. So this girl actually lost money for the privilege of serving this almighty cunt. And god forbid the IRS comes in a reviews the books. They won't look at that as a non tip. They will assume cash and fine accordingly.
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i tip very well.. that being said, i have no problem not tipping.
Agreed, I also tip good but I'm sick of waiters and bartenders thinking it should be mandatory. If you get shitty or rude service why should we tip you? I know bartenders that make 100k a year.
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They gave us our meal for free, but our waitress was so much fun I gave her a $20 tip anyhow.
That was nice.

But they don't make much at all. $20,660 according to the BLS for full time at a full service restaurant. http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes353031.htm

They make more in metropolitan areas, but then the cost of living is much higher in those areas, too.

All I'm saying is it's a low-paying gig. Watch the server hustle the next time you go to a restaurant on a busy night, covered with sweat and grime (kinda like porn), and be generous when the bill comes. You never know if they have mouths to feed, or if they're facing eviction, or what difficulties they're facing.

And if they truly suck, and don't care about giving you good service, then I guess they do deserve to be stiffed. That's very unusual though - at least in my experience. Most try hard to please.

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If you get shitty or rude service why should we tip you?
I don't disagree. There are certain expectations that come with a tip. They need to work.

But my experience has mostly been a total ass kissing and speedy service by my waiters, cuz of course they want maximum tips. They really have to fuck up for me to leave nothing, though. There can be problems in the kitchen or at the bar that can slow things down - stuff the server has little control over. I try to overlook that stuff. If they're blatanly rude, or are obviously fucking around and not doing their job, then (only then) I might stiff them.

And 100k as a bar tender? Damn. That's a pretty fucking sweet gig! Must be at a big, swanky place in a major city?
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Minimum wage for servers is $2.13 an hour. I can tell by the way you speak that you are a lousy tipper for one. Two that you've never worked in or owned a restaurant.
i can tell by the way you speak, that you pull all sorts of shit outta your ass, and then believe it for bona fide truth

luckily i don't need to learn anything further about you
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luckily i don't need to learn anything further about you
Looks like I nailed you to a tee or otherwise you would have at least come out swinging another way. I go a step further and say that you probably always wish to take the check to impress your "friends" and secretly screw over the waiter.
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Looks like I nailed you to a tee or otherwise you would have at least come out swinging another way. I go a step further and say that you probably always wish to take the check to impress your "friends" and secretly screw over the waiter.
life is especially hard for you today?
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I can't think of anywhere that does not add the service fee for groups larger than 6 or 8 (depending on the place).
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in the atheist sub reddit lol

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Actually it's quite good. I'm still laying here in bed with my girlfriend by my side having just been served breakfast or I guess it was more of a brunch in bed. You?
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I always tip good with good service, poor service get shit
Adding the tip in the bill is very common for large parties. In this case, it's a chain restaurant so it's an official policy. Not the waitresses fault. In a perfect world, such policies wouldn't be necessary. But because there are so many scumbags, a server could work all night serving a large party, and then get stiffed for 50-100 or more if the customers have no moral compass. It's just a precaution to protect the server.
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Actually it's quite good. I'm still laying here in bed with my girlfriend by my side having just been served breakfast or I guess it was more of a brunch in bed. You?
not in bed with my girlfriend surfing gfy and crusading the good fight for waiter-kind everywhere

seriously dude..
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seriously dude..
If it wasn't true you wouldn't be so offended. I did spend a number of years as a server and more in my younger years, have also owned a restaurant, toying with the idea of another and in addition to other things currently liquidate defunct restaurants and/or buy and sell their equipment so sure I'll defend them all day.
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If it wasn't true you wouldn't be so offended. I did spend a number of years as a server and more in my younger years, have also owned a restaurant, toying with the idea of another and in addition to other things currently liquidate defunct restaurants and/or buy and sell their equipment so sure I'll defend them all day.
you payed employees $2.13 per hour?
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Okay, England and Germany that won't happen. Most places in the US that I have visited will.
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i always tip well no matter if the service is good or not (unless its reeallly bad) because chances are these people need the money more than i do. i couldn't imagine having to serve people all day and put up with the amount of bullshit that goes with it.
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Actually no I didn't in my place because the bartender/eye candy took all of the orders and because of her added responsibilities and her good looks I paid her well over the norm. But I also set up my operation knowing that I couldn't afford to pay out all of the additional costs that come along with having many waiters and waitresses. It's not just the $2.13 an hour involved. I did earn $2.13 an hour or less for a number of years. Lot's of times I would work off the clock because overtime wasn't allowed yes even for $2.13 an hour servers in most corporate operations. And we're not talking Shoneys here I'm talking fine dining establishments.
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I tip well. Last night at hooters for the Super bowl the waitress got 45$ from me. Bill was 150. Here 10% is customary. So I tip well I guess.
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Actually no I didn't in my place because the bartender/eye candy took all of the orders and because of her added responsibilities and her good looks I paid her well over the norm. But I also set up my operation knowing that I couldn't afford to pay out all of the additional costs that come along with having many waiters and waitresses. It's not just the $2.13 an hour involved. I did earn $2.13 an hour or less for a number of years. Lot's of times I would work off the clock because overtime wasn't allowed yes even for $2.13 an hour servers in most corporate operations.
best of luck with your next attempt

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Not sure there will be a next attempt. The only reason I will is because my GF wants it and I know how to do it for low cost on the frontend. It's just the headaches that come along with it (long hours, low return, and dealing with the many like this bitch above) is enough to keep me away. But again, if I don't have to be fully involved then I may. Besides the buying out of others failed attempts is more lucrative.
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What I wonder is that this 18% was added because it was a large party, yet the bill was only $35? did they just have drinks or something?
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What I wonder is that this 18% was added because it was a large party, yet the bill was only $35? did they just have drinks or something?
Probably just her tab and each check the autograt was added. But it wouldn't surprise me if it was the whole tables tab, they spent hours eating salad, drinking water with lemon and this cunt picked up the tab and stiffed the waitress.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:25 PM   #40
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1) 18% auto tip is too high. customary tips are 15%, so i have no idea why applebees forces large parties to pay 18% instead of 15%. I would write curse words on my tab too.

2) a pastor crossing out the tip? OK...but leaving nothing? clearly she should be fired just like the waitress was.

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i always tip well no matter if the service is good or not (unless its reeallly bad) because chances are these people need the money more than i do. i couldn't imagine having to serve people all day and put up with the amount of bullshit that goes with it.
Exactly. Me too.
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I tip well. Last night at hooters for the Super bowl the waitress got 45$ from me. Bill was 150. Here 10% is customary. So I tip well I guess.
Good karma for you, dude. That's nice. It'll come back to you, sooner or later.
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1) 18% auto tip is too high. customary tips are 15%, so i have no idea why applebees forces large parties to pay 18% instead of 15%. I would write curse words on my tab too.

2) a pastor crossing out the tip? OK...but leaving nothing? clearly she should be fired just like the waitress was.

It's generally 18% because of the tipout. As mentioned earlier. Server assistants/bussers, bartenders, food runners and sometimes even hostesses/hosts all get a percentage.
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Probably just her tab and each check the autograt was added. But it wouldn't surprise me if it was the whole tables tab, they spent hours eating salad, drinking water with lemon and this cunt picked up the tab and stiffed the waitress.
That makes sense.
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Blacks don't tip. Nothing new.
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I read into this a bit more and this girl wasn't the waitress who served the Pastor she took the picture of another waitresses ticket and posted it. The Pastor called in and wanted everyone (both waitresses and both managers one off duty and one off duty) fired. Just the one girl was fired.
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I read into this a bit more and this girl wasn't the waitress who served the Pastor she took the picture of another waitresses ticket and posted it. The Pastor called in and wanted everyone (both waitresses and both managers one off duty and one off duty) fired. Just the one girl was fired.
Black Jesus would have done the same thing I guess.
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I can't think of anywhere that does not add the service fee for groups larger than 6 or 8 (depending on the place).
I never understood that concept. I bring more people = spend more money and as a result they force the tips on you ?
Funny part is if you are 10 and split the bill into 2 groups of 5 (more work) they usually do not add it.

I usually tip in the range of 20-30%, if a tip is added automatically I don't tip anything extra. If I am not happy with the service or the food I am not tipping.

If I don't tip I usually leave a mark on the bill saying what I'm not happy about so its something the restaurant / waiter can improve if they feel its important for them. If they don't I can only assume that the extra work needed to make me happy isn't worth the tip for them
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I read into this a bit more and this girl wasn't the waitress who served the Pastor she took the picture of another waitresses ticket and posted it. The Pastor called in and wanted everyone (both waitresses and both managers one off duty and one off duty) fired. Just the one girl was fired.
Yeah that article was poorly wrote cause the title/sub title says

Waitress who posted 'God receipt' fired
Pastor refused to pay automatic 18% gratuity

but like you said it wasn't even her waitress but a fellow waitress working there too.. Also she did actually pay the 18% tip as it was already added into the bill.. In the video the pastor said she left $6 in cash haha but with her leaving that note on the bill and with her being embarassed I'm sure she is just making that up..


This type of shit pisses me off cause I've been taught to always show respect to those that are serving you. So I tip very well. I also don't think the 18% auto tip for larger parties is too much as the waitress has to work 4 to 5 times harder for a table of 10 which this was compared to a table of 2.

To me if you want to take out your gf and are a cheapskate and leave her only a few quarters fine. But when you are a pastor and are bringing 9 other people out then tip well cause the waitress is working a lot harder and is prolly going to be there servicing your party a lot.

My motto is if you can't afford to tip don't go out. Go to a drive thru or prepare and serve yourself. Don't ask a waitress to wait on you for her base $2.13 a hour.

Now if I go out with just me and a girl and get really bad service I'll leave just 15% (compared to my 20-30% normal) and say something to the manager if he or she is around. It's never about being mean. I'll just say something like.. "Hey the food was great tonight but our waitress was a little slow.. Maybe she is having a off night or has other personal problems but again the food was great." By doing this you are letting her manager know that she might not be doing great and maybe he'll ask her if she's alright. If you leave her a small or no tip the only thing you are doing is making yourself look cheap. Also making the waitress in a worse mood and she will more likely to be a shitty waitress the rest of the night.
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I never understood that concept. I bring more people = spend more money and as a result they force the tips on you ?
Funny part is if you are 10 and split the bill into 2 groups of 5 (more work) they usually do not add it.

I usually tip in the range of 20-30%, if a tip is added automatically I don't tip anything extra. If I am not happy with the service or the food I am not tipping.

If I don't tip I usually leave a mark on the bill saying what I'm not happy about so its something the restaurant / waiter can improve if they feel its important for them. If they don't I can only assume that the extra work needed to make me happy isn't worth the tip for them
here's an idea - get a job at a restaurant and spend 2 hours waiting on 10 black people for $2 tip. Maybe then you will understand.
How is "not happy with food" is waiters fault? He's not the one cooking it.
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