Paysite Owners Are Your European Sales Down? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mutt · 02-09-2013, 03:03 AM

in another thread GFY user 'adultmobile' posted this:

"It could be not a ccbill action, but banks actions regarding ccbill type of sales.
Lots of european bank changed the credit card defaults not to allow sales outside the country, unless opt-in. They sent letter to everyone about if they want use card for foreign sales they have to pre-approve this."

He doesn't mention when this letter went out to European credit card holders.

So I looked at my stats for the past several months to see if anything has changed with European sales.

European Sales as Percentage of Total Sales
*********************************

feb 2013 13%
jan 2013 12%
dec 2012 20%
nov 2012 17%
oct 2012 22%
sep 2012 19%
aug 2012 16%
jul 2012 17%

Mutt · 02-09-2013, 05:59 AM

oh, a business thread - by all means ignore it. my bad.

SGS · 02-09-2013, 06:03 AM

Interesting if true.

Dirty F · 02-09-2013, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

in another thread GFY user 'adultmobile' posted this:

"It could be not a ccbill action, but banks actions regarding ccbill type of sales.
Lots of european bank changed the credit card defaults not to allow sales outside the country, unless opt-in. They sent letter to everyone about if they want use card for foreign sales they have to pre-approve this."

He doesn't mention when this letter went out to European credit card holders.

So I looked at my stats for the past several months to see if anything has changed with European sales.

European Sales as Percentage of Total Sales
*********************************

feb 2013 13%
jan 2013 12%
dec 2012 20%
nov 2012 17%
oct 2012 22%
sep 2012 19%
aug 2012 16%
jul 2012 17%

Too early to tell. If these next 6 months will be 12% as well then we can conclude they are lower than last year.

baggg · 02-09-2013, 06:59 AM

Never got any of that letter and use my card online all the time like last year or before

Shap · 02-09-2013, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Too early to tell. If these next 6 months will be 12% as well then we can conclude they are lower than last year.

I disagree all depends on volume. With Twistys volume we would be able to tell within a week or two if something is wrong.

Mutt pull another 6 months back what were last feb and jan?

NdO · 02-09-2013, 07:03 AM

Bullshit, I assume adultmobile is from Holland and is referring to this:
http://translate.google.com/translat...iten-europa%2F

http://translate.google.com/translat...iten-europa%2F

Most dutch banks are blocking pin/ATM-transactions from outside EU. This does only affect (maestro) and not creditcards and/or internet.

Mutt · 02-09-2013, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

I disagree all depends on volume. With Twistys volume we would be able to tell within a week or two if something is wrong.

Mutt pull another 6 months back what were last feb and jan?

feb 2013 13%
jan 2013 12%

jan 2012 18%
feb 2012 08%

jan 2011 24%
feb 2011 21%

Dirty F · 02-09-2013, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NdO

Bullshit, I assume adultmobile is from Holland and is referring to this:
http://translate.google.com/translat...iten-europa%2F

http://translate.google.com/translat...iten-europa%2F

Most dutch banks are blocking pin/ATM-transactions from outside EU. This does only affect (maestro) and not creditcards and/or internet.

Damn, good to know. I would've found out the hard way in a couple of weeks.

Barry-xlovecam · 02-09-2013, 07:37 AM

We have no billing/processing issues in Europe ...
General trends including consumer confidence might be having some affect.
If your selling currencies are euro/dollar FOREX (currency exchange rate) fluctuations would be a factor also.

Mutt,
look toward your own local/internal factors also

use multiple billers in your processing.

look at the actual sales counts not the percentages. The ratios could be distorted by the sales counts

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Dirty F · 02-09-2013, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

I disagree all depends on volume. With Twistys volume we would be able to tell within a week or two if something is wrong.

Mutt pull another 6 months back what were last feb and jan?

You are right.

dancent · 02-09-2013, 08:07 AM

oh crap...

The Porn Nerd · 02-09-2013, 10:23 AM

Mutt, it looks like 2011 were your best Jan-Feb. After that we had credit card "reform" which made consumers change their buying habits (here in the US) and now maybe some more changes in the EU....

But sales are down across the board, for CCBill, Epoch, Segpay, NATS, all of them. Just look at today's front page of GFY! So many threads, people wondering wtf is up (or down) with sales...

So I think it's an economy thing. What sucks ass is increasing traffic during this time and still seeing shitty sales.

Naughty · 02-09-2013, 11:56 AM

No paysite, no CCs, but our stores are definately having a hard februari...

Shap · 02-09-2013, 03:46 PM

Do you track european traffic and form hits/submissions as well? Are they all steady in jan/feb?

JSWENSON · 02-09-2013, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Mutt, it looks like 2011 were your best Jan-Feb. After that we had credit card "reform" which made consumers change their buying habits (here in the US) and now maybe some more changes in the EU....

But sales are down across the board, for CCBill, Epoch, Segpay, NATS, all of them. Just look at today's front page of GFY! So many threads, people wondering wtf is up (or down) with sales...

So I think it's an economy thing. What sucks ass is increasing traffic during this time and still seeing shitty sales.

What does the economy matter? He clearly said that this is the percentage of overall sales, more or less volume (unless extremely low) would not matter in that regard.

xXXtesy10 · 02-09-2013, 10:07 PM

Sales way up here. You are doing something wrong.

Triple-A · 02-10-2013, 08:04 AM

Wierd...

I had my best ever month last month and so far this month sales have been depressingly slow!

*confused as fuck*

The Porn Nerd · 02-10-2013, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

What does the economy matter? He clearly said that this is the percentage of overall sales, more or less volume (unless extremely low) would not matter in that regard.

What does the ECONOMY matter? Wow.
Yes, volume plays a big part in this but since we don't know the volume then we look for other factors, and the economy is a BIG one.

Dirty F · 02-10-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple-A

Wierd...

I had my best ever month last month and so far this month sales have been depressingly slow!

*confused as fuck*

I'm no grammar nazi but it amazes me how 9 out 10 people can't spell the word weird.

PornoMonster · 02-10-2013, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

in another thread GFY user 'adultmobile' posted this:

"It could be not a ccbill action, but banks actions regarding ccbill type of sales.
Lots of european bank changed the credit card defaults not to allow sales outside the country, unless opt-in. They sent letter to everyone about if they want use card for foreign sales they have to pre-approve this."

He doesn't mention when this letter went out to European credit card holders.

So I looked at my stats for the past several months to see if anything has changed with European sales.

European Sales as Percentage of Total Sales
*********************************

feb 2013 13%
jan 2013 12%
dec 2012 20%
nov 2012 17%
oct 2012 22%
sep 2012 19%
aug 2012 16%
jul 2012 17%

Nothing to see here ... Edit I found my answer later on in the post

adultmobile · 02-10-2013, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NdO

Bullshit, I assume adultmobile is from Holland and is referring to this:
http://translate.google.com/translat...iten-europa%2F

http://translate.google.com/translat...iten-europa%2F

Most dutch banks are blocking pin/ATM-transactions from outside EU. This does only affect (maestro) and not creditcards and/or internet.

Yes we got this letter, but that's not the only case, other banks done it.
Also vice-versa, many US banks will decline sales outside USA, unless preapproved, lots of programs (include ccbill) could be in ccbillEU, EpochEU or whateverEU, Visa/MC wants USA and EU separated, and if USA or EU cardholder bank does not want foreign sale by default, it blocks, or calls the customer: "hello this is the bank - was it you just buy porn in foreign conutry?".

Triple-A · 02-10-2013, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F

I'm no grammar nazi but it amazes me how 9 out 10 people can't spell the word weird.

Whoops! You're right! & I'm a "grammar nazi." Thank you for pointing out my shameful mistake.

BTW, sales seems to be returning again... think it was another high scrub for a few days by CCBill.

02-09-2013, 03:03 AM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Paysite Owners Are Your European Sales Down? in another thread GFY user 'adultmobile' posted this: "It could be not a ccbill action, but banks actions regarding ccbill type of sales. Lots of european bank changed the credit card defaults not to allow sales outside the country, unless opt-in. They sent letter to everyone about if they want use card for foreign sales they have to pre-approve this." He doesn't mention when this letter went out to European credit card holders. So I looked at my stats for the past several months to see if anything has changed with European sales. European Sales as Percentage of Total Sales ********************************* feb 2013 13% jan 2013 12% dec 2012 20% nov 2012 17% oct 2012 22% sep 2012 19% aug 2012 16% jul 2012 17% __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	We have no billing/processing issues in Europe ... General trends including consumer confidence might be having some affect. If your selling currencies are euro/dollar FOREX (currency exchange rate) fluctuations would be a factor also. Mutt, look toward your own local/internal factors also use multiple billers in your processing. look at the actual sales counts not the percentages. The ratios could be distorted by the sales counts .

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NdO Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NL Posts: 336	Bullshit, I assume adultmobile is from Holland and is referring to this: http://translate.google.com/translat...iten-europa%2F http://translate.google.com/translat...iten-europa%2F Most dutch banks are blocking pin/ATM-transactions from outside EU. This does only affect (maestro) and not creditcards and/or internet.

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