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Old 02-28-2013, 04:41 PM   #1
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Online Backup Solutions?

After being online since 96, I have to admit that I am a total and complete failure when it comes to backing stuff up. I have external drives to back up to, and I have external drives to back those backups to. I also have a dedicated server.

But do you think I actually do the backups?

Hell no.

Which is why I am currently about to stick a hard drive in the freezer in hopes of pulling some much-needed content off it.

I throw in the towel, raise the white flag, and otherwise surrender. I suck at doing backups.

Does anyone use one of the online companies? If so, what convinced you to go with the company you are with? I want something that backs up as I work, and removes the stupid from the equation.
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:43 PM   #2
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:53 PM   #3
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i dont like the thought of knowing other people can see my stuff

Me either. Which is why I have resisted anything to do with the cloud. But I've lost enough stuff over the years to consider it. And each time, I tell the Great Technical Gods in the Sky that I will do better if I can just please, please, please recover my data.

It's a lie every time.
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:51 PM   #4
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:35 PM   #5
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No need for online backups. The best backup system I've used is Apple's Time Capsule (it works with Windows too). Just set it up and forget about it. It first makes a backup of everything you've got but then only incremental backups after that. Restoring is a snap. Best of all it does it all in background. Love It. It's also a WiFi router (802-11.n). $299 for 2 TB or $499 for 3TB.
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No need for online backups. The best backup system I've used is Apple's Time Capsule (it works with Windows too). Just set it up and forget about it. It first makes a backup of everything you've got but then only incremental backups after that. Restoring is a snap. Best of all it does it all in background. Love It. It's also a WiFi router (802-11.n). $299 for 2 TB or $499 for 3TB.
Is there anything like that but i don't need to use apple drive
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I hear good thinks about Carbonite.

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Old 02-28-2013, 09:44 PM   #8
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Just get another server and set back ups to that one. That way your main server can catch fire and all your sites should never skip a beat. Good way to send mass emails as well.
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Just get another server and set back ups to that one. That way your main server can catch fire and all your sites should never skip a beat. Good way to send mass emails as well.
I always recommend having a local backup. The main reason for having an offsite backup is usually not for the reason of instant restore, but more for incase of a disaster/emergency. If you have a fire in your house, a flood. If you if you want access the data remotely, you can do so from the cloud. If you are just backed up in your house/datacenter. If something happens to that location. You are still in trouble. I always recommend both onsite and offsite. That is, if you take your business seriously . If you mean a server in another location. That is also a good idea. but if you have anything more then a 99 dollar server. Offsite backup will cost less.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:22 PM   #10
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Just get another server and set back ups to that one. That way your main server can catch fire and all your sites should never skip a beat. Good way to send mass emails as well.
I'm talking about my local computers. The hosting company takes care of server backups.

Or they wouldn't get done either.
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I always recommend having a local backup. The main reason for having an offsite backup is usually not for the reason of instant restore, but more for incase of a disaster/emergency. If you have a fire in your house, a flood. If you if you want access the data remotely, you can do so from the cloud. If you are just backed up in your house/datacenter. If something happens to that location. You are still in trouble. I always recommend both onsite and offsite. That is, if you take your business seriously . If you mean a server in another location. That is also a good idea. but if you have anything more then a 99 dollar server. Offsite backup will cost less.
Like Selena, I wouldn't do the local backups though

But one thing I have learned is you do not want to get your IP address marked as spam on your money sites. Setting up another server for backups AND emails is worth the X% of profits for me.

I tried a backup in a completely different location and it became a problem because I was not willing to provide root access for the backups. So now I just have 2 boxes in 1 building.

Do you have a recommendation for an economical solution in addition to 2 boxes, at another location? Besides downloading the information to my personal harddrives. That way the entire building where my servers are could catch fire and still never lose anything ;)
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:04 PM   #12
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No need for online backups. The best backup system I've used is Apple's Time Capsule (it works with Windows too). Just set it up and forget about it. It first makes a backup of everything you've got but then only incremental backups after that. Restoring is a snap. Best of all it does it all in background. Love It. It's also a WiFi router (802-11.n). $299 for 2 TB or $499 for 3TB.
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Thanks guys, I will look into both of those. I just know that I cannot rely on my own procrastination anymore.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:04 PM   #13
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selena: i completely suggest carbonite. great solution.
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After being online since 96, I have to admit that I am a total and complete failure when it comes to backing stuff up. I have external drives to back up to, and I have external drives to back those backups to. I also have a dedicated server.

But do you think I actually do the backups?

Hell no.

Which is why I am currently about to stick a hard drive in the freezer in hopes of pulling some much-needed content off it.

I throw in the towel, raise the white flag, and otherwise surrender. I suck at doing backups.

Does anyone use one of the online companies? If so, what convinced you to go with the company you are with? I want something that backs up as I work, and removes the stupid from the equation.

just get a server hosted and then get script to back up your data... easy peasy
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You can spend $50.00 or more a year backing up your files online or just spend $200.00 or so on a good external hard drive and be set for many, many, many years. Not to mention backing up your data is way faster. This is what I did and it works great.
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Like Selena, I wouldn't do the local backups though

But one thing I have learned is you do not want to get your IP address marked as spam on your money sites. Setting up another server for backups AND emails is worth the X% of profits for me.

I tried a backup in a completely different location and it became a problem because I was not willing to provide root access for the backups. So now I just have 2 boxes in 1 building.

Do you have a recommendation for an economical solution in addition to 2 boxes, at another location? Besides downloading the information to my personal harddrives. That way the entire building where my servers are could catch fire and still never lose anything ;)
I thought I answered this before. I must have been typing the answer on my phone to this and forgot to send.

I sell both Barracuda Backup & Sonicwall CDN. Barracuda is a lot more user friendly and cheaper per GB off-site. You pay for an appliance that you put with your servers. It comes with different agents for things such as SQL, Exchange, VMware, Oracle etc for granular backups. You setup the agents on the servers. It sends the backups to the local appliance for easy restore. It then sends to 2 cloud locations for double redundancy. So if you need to get something off fast, you can get it from the appliance. If you have a complete disaster in your rack, data room, data center etc. You can bring the the data back from the cloud. If you pay for replacement support they will send you a brand new box with all your data already loaded on it overnight. They also give you the option to load your servers into virtual machines in there datacenter while your servers are down.

https://www.barracudanetworks.com/pr.../backupservice

You can also go to a backend demo of the product here..


http://demo.barracuda.com

I think the lowest model is about 500 bucks, the highest about 40,000k if i am not mistaken. Its about .25 per gig per month for offsite space. Or you can just get 2 of them, if you have 2 locations, or put them in 2 datacenters and sync them up so you dont have to pay for off-site space monthly.
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