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Old 03-19-2013, 03:14 PM   #1
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Can Someone Tell me how Bitcoin Works Simply?

I have known about bitcoins for a while, I fist heard about bitcoin mining where hackers would illegally use your PC to mine for data.
Please could someone explain simply how it all works. Ive tried to understand but I don't get it.

How does a site allow payments by bitcoin and where do they come from?
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:29 PM   #2
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Bitcoins, aka nerd currency, are created by computers that perform productive tasks. lol.

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Old 03-19-2013, 03:40 PM   #3
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Find "how bitcoins work" (or something like that) video on youtube, there is about 40 minute long video that would explain you how fake money work. All though it would not explain why people choose to give value to play money.
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Is like if you put your video card in bittorrent for others to dowload your GPU wasted work.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:40 PM   #6
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I have known about bitcoins for a while, I fist heard about bitcoin mining where hackers would illegally use your PC to mine for data.
Please could someone explain simply how it all works. Ive tried to understand but I don't get it.

How does a site allow payments by bitcoin and where do they come from?
Bitcoins are the creation of grown up nerds that want to make something that resembles Dugeons and Dragons money. The concept is that it is an electronic non-real thing that exists only in the pokemon digital universe.

Unfortunately they do not see that they will loose their money if they drop their tablette in the kitchen sink by accident, some hacker at the train station downloads it off laptop and some Hindu will figure out how to counterfeit them using an old pong video console.

Not to mention all the problems with gouvernement super computer spy agencies being able to monitor and track every purchase and ruin someone's life by just "closing his account with a keystroke."

Virtual money is a stupid idea.
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Bitcoins are the creation of grown up nerds that want to make something that resembles Dugeons and Dragons money. The concept is that it is an electronic non-real thing that exists only in the pokemon digital universe.

Unfortunately they do not see that they will loose their money if they drop their tablette in the kitchen sink by accident, some hacker at the train station downloads it off laptop and some Hindu will figure out how to counterfeit them using an old pong video console.

Not to mention all the problems with gouvernement super computer spy agencies being able to monitor and track every purchase and ruin someone's life by just "closing his account with a keystroke."

Virtual money is a stupid idea.
Just about everything you use today is a product that started with a nerds idea in his moms basement. Nerds own you.

BTW the government cant close bitcoin accounts with a keystroke, thats the point.
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it's funny watching people get emotional about it.
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So is it like the virtual currency in second life?

Except it's created by your computers ram or whatever.
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BTW the government cant close bitcoin accounts with a keystroke, thats the point.
No disrespect, but you're delusional if you really believe that. The US government can legally assassinate its own citizens, drop bombs on schools in other countries, kidnap and torture people and hold them without charge, and strong arm international banks around the world to hand over US account holders and then dictate how they operate. Shutting down a cyber currency, or at least severely disrupting it, that is used for money laundering and other illegal activities, will not be a reach should they really be inclined to do so.

The million dollar question is, WILL THEY? Because the answer to COULD THEY, is yes.
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Bitcoins are the creation of grown up nerds that want to make something that resembles Dugeons and Dragons money. The concept is that it is an electronic non-real thing that exists only in the pokemon digital universe.

Unfortunately they do not see that they will loose their money if they drop their tablette in the kitchen sink by accident, some hacker at the train station downloads it off laptop and some Hindu will figure out how to counterfeit them using an old pong video console.

Not to mention all the problems with gouvernement super computer spy agencies being able to monitor and track every purchase and ruin someone's life by just "closing his account with a keystroke."

Virtual money is a stupid idea.
Ah look, granddad who still pays in Shekels is upset again.
Poor guy.
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To be honest I'm not sure, but PBBC hired over 20 experts and scholars to do studies on how it works. They posted some great articles about it!
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No disrespect, but you're delusional if you really believe that. The US government can legally assassinate its own citizens, drop bombs on schools in other countries, kidnap and torture people and hold them without charge, and strong arm international banks around the world to hand over US account holders and then dictate how they operate. Shutting down a cyber currency, or at least severely disrupting it, that is used for money laundering and other illegal activities, will not be a reach should they really be inclined to do so.

The million dollar question is, WILL THEY? Because the answer to COULD THEY, is yes.
Those scenarios are all reliant on a single or a very few points of failure.
Download the full blockchain,
I'll wait.
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^ The US Government can do whatever it wants if it wants to, practically anywhere it wants, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

They simply have to prohibit anyone from accepting or using bitcoins who lives in the US, has any business or other connection to the US or who wants to set foot on US soil at any point in time ever and it would immediately be rendered even more useless (as a payment system) than it is already.

The only reason anyone is showing any interest now is because of the nutty price they rise to, compared to five seconds earlier.
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Just about everything you use today is a product that started with a nerds idea in his moms basement. Nerds own you.

BTW the government cant close bitcoin accounts with a keystroke, thats the point.
Well let me think.
There is evidently the computer and a HD camera. But I am going to stop using the camera and returning to film this spring. (I am old I do not want to make or play with garbage anymore)

I do not have a microwave and my coffee maker is an old percolator
None of my cars were made after 1975. (I never buy new cars)
My telephone is a land line
My stereo plays records
My television is not flat screen but a big wooden console.
Obviously my old refrigerator and stove are increasing in value because lots of people want to buy them.

I understand my stuff is old but it all still works and looks good. (I take care of my things) I see no reason to spend money on junk I do not need only to impress other people.

So to respond to your commentaire. No nerds do not own me but I suppose they own you and virtual currency is still a stupid idea born from too much Dungeons and Dragons.

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Ah look, granddad who still pays in Shekels is upset again.
Poor guy.
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As for calling me Grandfather. I told you before I want to know which whore was your grandmother and I want a blood test before I take financial responsibility for your family.
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^ The US Government can do whatever it wants if it wants to, practically anywhere it wants, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.


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They simply have to prohibit anyone from accepting or using bitcoins who lives in the US, has any business or other connection to the US or who wants to set foot on US soil at any point in time ever and it would immediately be rendered even more useless (as a payment system) than it is already.
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The only reason anyone is showing any interest now is because of the nutty price they rise to, compared to five seconds earlier.
People want to know what it is, not why it is.

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Those scenarios are all reliant on a single or a very few points of failure.
Download the full blockchain,
I'll wait.
there is 10x simpler solution, just need to pass a law making bitcoins illegal...
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there is 10x simpler solution, just need to pass a law making bitcoins illegal...
What if I pass gas?

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there is 10x simpler solution, just need to pass a law making bitcoins illegal...
And who will do that?
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i think it's fair to say it is all speculation at this point, which to me, is where the value proposition lies. risk-reward ratio.

i do think bitcoins would have to reach a critical mass level, wtfever that is, before a government, any government, would try to legislate it away.

that means there's time for investment.
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And who will do that?
Any government, US, EU, etc... isn't it pretty clear that no government would want this "currency" to get too big?
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No disrespect, but you're delusional if you really believe that. The US government can legally assassinate its own citizens, drop bombs on schools in other countries, kidnap and torture people and hold them without charge, and strong arm international banks around the world to hand over US account holders and then dictate how they operate. Shutting down a cyber currency, or at least severely disrupting it, that is used for money laundering and other illegal activities, will not be a reach should they really be inclined to do so.

The million dollar question is, WILL THEY? Because the answer to COULD THEY, is yes.
well said my friend.
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Any government, US, EU, etc... isn't it pretty clear that no government would want this "currency" to get too big?
Laws necessitate a bad guy and a victim.

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BTW the government cant close bitcoin accounts with a keystroke, thats the point.
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No disrespect, but you're delusional if you really believe that. The US government can legally assassinate its own citizens, drop bombs on schools in other countries, kidnap and torture people and hold them without charge, and strong arm international banks around the world to hand over US account holders and then dictate how they operate. Shutting down a cyber currency, or at least severely disrupting it, that is used for money laundering and other illegal activities, will not be a reach should they really be inclined to do so.

The million dollar question is, WILL THEY? Because the answer to COULD THEY, is yes.
what he is saying, i believe, is that since there is no issuer of the currency + it's all p2p, it's not easy as a keystroke, in fact, it is described as being quite difficult.
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Laws necessitate a bad guy and a victim.
I'm not quite sure what you mean... it's pretty easy to come up with a bad guy, I wouldn't be surprised at all if one day we'll hear phrases like this on the tv: "terrorist organizations are using bitcoins to launder money"... shortly followed by a ban on them...
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