DMCA Legal Action

[dgraves]

what legal action can be taken against a tube that is ignoring DMCA emails. i cc'd their host on the last email to hopefully get some results. it's bad enough that these douchebags are ripping my entire member's area to pad their tube but now they are adding their watermark to them.

the tube is motherless[dot]com

[Radical Bucks]

I think it's time to hunt each and every adult tube site owner, and perform very violent acts to them!

[CurrentlySober]

You should have talked to Paul - He would have advised you NOT to give affiliates access to your members area... In other words, Paul says its all your own fault!

Personally, I feel sorry for you, but as an industry professional, I need to remove my hat to Paul, and state that had you listened to the master, you would not have this problem...

[dgraves]

ya, but how do you hunt down spineless jellyfish?

[Radical Bucks]

Originally Posted by dgraves

ya, but how do you hunt down spineless jellyfish?

They show up to the conventions. Start making an example of the ones you know.
The message will get out we are going old school.

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

You should have talked to Paul - He would have advised you NOT to give affiliates access to your members area... In other words, Paul says its all your own fault!

Personally, I feel sorry for you, but as an industry professional, I need to remove my hat to Paul, and state that had you listened to the master, you would not have this problem...

lol, i saw that thread. i guess if i didn't want my content stolen then i shouldn't have made it available to thieves.

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

They show up to the conventions. Start making an example of the ones you know.
The message will get out we are going old school.

i doubt these guys can afford to go to shows but it would be nice to see them with their badges on at the forum. it would be a pinata!

[Radical Bucks]

We all need affiliates, but the sad thing is half of them are the actual content thieves.
I have friends that are network engineers and can find them very easily.

[DWB]

A quick look shows they host in the USA. If both the host and the site is ignoring the DMCA, sue them both. You will win. At least with the host you can find and serve them, and they have assets. The site owners... who knows.

Document EVERYTHING and make sure you're sending a proper DMCA notice.

[Brujah]

You can DMCA the domain registrar (Enom.com).

[dgraves]

i like the way you guys think!

[rowan]

Have you tried making a complaint to their registrar? You may be able to get them to release the contact details for that domain.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

You should have talked to Paul - He would have advised you NOT to give affiliates access to your members area... In other words, Paul says its all your own fault!

Personally, I feel sorry for you, but as an industry professional, I need to remove my hat to Paul, and state that had you listened to the master, you would not have this problem...

With all the poo posts that you make, this is actually more stupid than any other you have made.

Unless there is more to this statement.

Some of my stuff is on that site and I am going to DMCA them for it. and I assure you, I don't give access to anyone but paying members.

Not even affiliates.

[2012]

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[dgraves]

Originally Posted by rowan

Have you tried making a complaint to their registrar? You may be able to get them to release the contact details for that domain.

i just sent another email to the owners of the tube, their registrar, their host and my lawyer.

[raymor]

Originally Posted by DWB

A quick look shows they host in the USA. If both the host and the site is ignoring the DMCA, sue them both. You will win. At least with the host you can find and serve them, and they have assets. The site owners... who knows.

Document EVERYTHING and make sure you're sending a proper DMCA notice.

Yep. DMCA is really designed for hosts. If they comply with the DMCA, they are in the clear. If not, they are liable.

[dgraves]

i don't think $29.95 is going to deter a thief from stealing thousands of dollars worth of content.

[pornguy]

[email protected]

This is who comes up as the host or Provider.

http://www.us.ntt.com/en/contact-us.html

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by pornguy

[email protected]

This is who comes up as the host or Provider.

http://www.us.ntt.com/en/contact-us.html

thanks. i just cc'd them on a DMCA email.

[dgraves]

i'm not surprised when i see one or two videos but when i see 4 pages of full length videos it makes me want to skin someone alive.

[2012]

Originally Posted by pornguy

With all the poo posts that you make, this is actually more stupid than any other you have made.

Unless there is more to this statement.

Some of my stuff is on that site and I am going to DMCA them for it. and I assure you, I don't give access to anyone but paying members.

Not even affiliates.

you must have awesome "promotional tools"

[Radical Bucks]

Originally Posted by dgraves

i'm not surprised when i see one or two videos but when i see 4 pages of full length videos it makes me want to skin someone alive.

That is what i am talking about. Gotta get old school.

[2012]

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

That is what i am talking about. Gotta get old school.

you should of got "old school" three years ago . how much of your traffic comes from tubes to your paysites ?

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by 2012

you must have awesome "promotional tools"

We actually have plenty of great tools and our affiliates love us.

We convert and retain better than most.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by pornguy

With all the poo posts that you make, this is actually more stupid than any other you have made.

Unless there is more to this statement.

Some of my stuff is on that site and I am going to DMCA them for it. and I assure you, I don't give access to anyone but paying members.

Not even affiliates.

Some of your stuff, against all of the stuff from the OP. I applaud your decision to give no one but paying members access.

not that $29.95 will stop them.

Dgraves, do you have good password protection and a downloader limit? Password traders and hacker, fuckers were bad for getting in, ripping sites on an auto downloader and then giving it away.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by pornguy

With all the poo posts that you make, this is actually more stupid than any other you have made.

Seriously, check out Pauls latest 'Industry instruction thread..'

Originally Posted by pornguy

Unless there is more to this statement.

Yep - See above

Peace

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Some of your stuff, against all of the stuff from the OP. I applaud your decision to give no one but paying members access.

not that $29.95 will stop them.

Dgraves, do you have good password protection and a downloader limit? Password traders and hacker, fuckers were bad for getting in, ripping sites on an auto downloader and then giving it away.

i currently use proxypass and it works well. i just recently increased the username and password requirement from 6 characters to 8-12 which seemed to help.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Seriously, check out Pauls latest 'Industry instruction thread..'



Yep - See above

Peace

Thanks Poo Poo head.. Knew you could not just be spewing..



















POO!

[2012]

it's all fucked

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Some of your stuff, against all of the stuff from the OP. I applaud your decision to give no one but paying members access.

not that $29.95 will stop them.

Dgraves, do you have good password protection and a downloader limit? Password traders and hacker, fuckers were bad for getting in, ripping sites on an auto downloader and then giving it away.

We do have protection in place. We use Strong Box and throttle box. Excellent products by the way.

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by dgraves

what legal action can be taken against a tube that is ignoring DMCA emails. i cc'd their host on the last email to hopefully get some results. it's bad enough that these douchebags are ripping my entire member's area to pad their tube but now they are adding their watermark to them.

the tube is motherless[dot]com

There's always this option.

[VenusBlogger]

The key is the hosting company. If you contact their hosting company, they will take action. Any US host will take action, soon or late.

The problem is if they are hosted in a place like thepiratebay server, can't remember the name of that hsot now. They will ignore everything and there is nothing someone can do.

[The Porn Nerd]

Good luck man!! Hate it when that happens so hope you get justice somehow.

[Tom_PM]

Find out who provides the host with bandwidth and contact them. Hosts would tend to want to stay in business.

[CamTraffic]

Screw emails. Print the dmca, get it notirized and snail mail it to their host with signature confirmation... let us know how that goes.

[dgraves]

these fuckers not only take your content, they take your time with it. as hard as you work to make something, there's someone working just as hard to take it away from you.

i know most of these fuck sticks are on the ropes because they have so much pop-up/under crap on their sites that it's a clear act of desperation. they don't want people to select a product, they're going to shove it down their throat.

part of me isn't too concerned because they are obviously not business men and they will eventually fuck themselves out of business.

[2012]

Originally Posted by 2012

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[dgraves]

any thugs for hire in the Staten Island area?

motherless owner:

Joshua Lange
34 Fingerboard Rd FL1
Staten Island NY 10305
(212) 920-1666

[sicone]

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

I think it's time to hunt each and every adult tube site owner, and perform very violent acts to them!

I own a adult tube, a few of them. What kind of violent act would you like to do to me? Think very carefully before you answer.

Originally Posted by dgraves

any thugs for hire in the Staten Island area?

motherless owner:

Joshua Lange
34 Fingerboard Rd FL1
Staten Island NY 10305
(212) 920-1666

You definitely aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. Hell the dullest tool probably still has a leg up on you. That statement alone will cost you any court case and get you some time in a federal fuck you in the ass kind of prison.

[Just Alex]

Originally Posted by sicone

I own a adult tube, a few of them. What kind of violent act would you like to do to me? Think very carefully before you answer.




You definitely aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. Hell the dullest tool probably still has a leg up on you. That statement alone will cost you any court case and get you some time in a federal fuck you in the ass kind of prison.

Do you ignore DMCA emails as well?

[2012]

old school G money.



i gotta dooddooooooooooooo

[sicone]

Originally Posted by Just Alex

Do you ignore DMCA emails as well?

Nope, and in the last 2 yrs of running adult tubes I have never received a single DMCA. Play by the rules and all is well.

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by sicone

I own a adult tube, a few of them. What kind of violent act would you like to do to me? Think very carefully before you answer.




You definitely aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. Hell the dullest tool probably still has a leg up on you. That statement alone will cost you any court case and get you some time in a federal fuck you in the ass kind of prison.

you look like someone that couldn't produce anything of value and would resort to stealing other people's work.

oh, and you better lose a few hundred pounds before you start shit talking me fat ass! i'd wear your ass out.

[Radical Bucks]

Originally Posted by sicone

I own a adult tube, a few of them. What kind of violent act would you like to do to me? Think very carefully before you answer.




You definitely aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. Hell the dullest tool probably still has a leg up on you. That statement alone will cost you any court case and get you some time in a federal fuck you in the ass kind of prison.

Why? are you some kind of bad ass? Tubes ruined original content.

I think very carefully about tubes giving away free content in which take away from the resources necessary to produce fresh new content.

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

Why? are you some kind of bad ass? Tubes ruined original content.

I think very carefully about tubes giving away free content in which take away from the resources necessary to produce fresh new content.

woah! that kind of thinking requires some business sense. i never gave these guys that much credit. he's the guy that's stealing from us remember. the only thing you can steal from him is some shade.

[Radical Bucks]

Well he needs to steal content to feed his fat fucking ass.
He runs tube sites, so he comes in here talking shit defending tubes making a very weak attempt at trolling.

He does not like what you said as he his very close neighbors with
Joshua Lange
34 Fingerboard Rd FL1
Staten Island NY 10305
(212) 920-1666

DukeDollars is in NJ

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

Well he needs to steal content to feed his fat fucking ass.
He runs tube sites, so he comes in here talking shit defending tubes making a very weak attempt at trolling.

the only way he could understand how a content owner feels is if someone stole his bucket of fried chicken but that will never happen because i bet he guards his food with his life.

[Radical Bucks]

Originally Posted by dgraves

the only way he could understand how a content owner feels is if someone stole his bucket of fried chicken but that will never happen because i bet he guards his food with his life.

Be very careful of what you say, you may end up in the pinta or getting sued ha ha ha ha ha

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

Well he needs to steal content to feed his fat fucking ass.
He runs tube sites, so he comes in here talking shit defending tubes making a very weak attempt at trolling.

He does not like what you said as he his very close neighbors with
Joshua Lange
34 Fingerboard Rd FL1
Staten Island NY 10305
(212) 920-1666

DukeDollars is in NJ

not surprised. birds of a feather...

[sicone]

Originally Posted by dgraves

oh, and you better lose a few hundred pounds before you start shit talking me fat ass! i'd wear your ass out.

I am truly impressed by your thoughtful, yet original comebacks. Bravo sir, I have never been called fat before and my e-feelings are crushed.

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

He does not like what you said as he his very close neighbors with
Joshua Lange
34 Fingerboard Rd FL1
Staten Island NY 10305
(212) 920-1666

DukeDollars is in NJ

Yes, Duke Dollars is in NJ, but I live in Ca. So they aren't exactly my neighbors. Surely you aren't suggesting that Duke Dollars is stealing your works? Are you?

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

He runs tube sites, so he comes in here talking shit defending tubes making a very weak attempt at trolling.

Where did I defend tubes that steal content. All of my tubes are legal and run by the rules set forth by the sponsors I choose to promote. Don't worry boys, I don't promote either of you.

Originally Posted by dgraves

you look like someone that couldn't produce anything of value and would resort to stealing other people's work.

Originally Posted by dgraves

he's the guy that's stealing from us remember. the only thing you can steal from him is some shade.

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

Well he needs to steal content to feed his fat fucking ass.

Now you boys know the rules right? Please post proof that I steal from you or any other content producer. I'm waiting.