I just cried like a baby

[Rochard]

Watching CNN this morning about the tornado... Parents showed up at the school, seeing the school was physically fucking gone and looking for their children... That's got to put the fear of god in you.

[Tofu]

Yeah, that was some sad shit. I was watching the same thing, before I left for the office.
It really makes you feel for human beings. I'm a Father and would hate to be in that situation.

[brassmonkey]

turn the channel

[pornguy]

Yeah saw some of that and know the feeling. My sons school is literally right down the street from the house.

We were driving buy one day a few months ago with a lightening storm going on and we saw kids in the Yard playing.. At the same time I noticed my sons shoes. We stopped went in and ripped them a new ass because that meant he was outside as well not to mention the fact that he was barefoot.

[Scott McD]

Yup been pretty horrible to watch.

Must be every parents worst nightmare...

[L-Pink]

News showed some injured horses just standing in the rubble.

[Spunky]

Yea seen the lil doggy climb out of the rubble when it's owner was being interviewed tugged on the heart strings,so devastating

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Tofu

I'm a Father and would hate to be in that situation.

As a parent it just killed me.

With that school shooting late last year it made me worry... What would I do if that happened at my school. Gunman or not, cops or not, nothing is going to stop me from running into that school to get my kid...

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

turn the channel

don't be such an ignorant dumbass.

[lucas131]

it is sad for sure ... but with all the radars and all the meteo forecasts and informations, why the hell the kids have been in school?

[bronco67]

Happened to me too...and I don't even have kids.

[Theo]

Horrific

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by lucas131

it is sad for sure ... but with all the radars and all the meteo forecasts and informations, why the hell the kids have been in school?

News reported only a 16 minute warning.

.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by lucas131

it is sad for sure ... but with all the radars and all the meteo forecasts and informations, why the hell the kids have been in school?

If you watch that one vid, on youtube the guy in the car took. The tornado pretty much set down right in a populated area. No way they could of had any warning out side of "possible tornado's".

From the time that thing sat down, to the time you started seeing building debris flying around was less than 1 min. The warning sirens were in the background before it hit the ground, but regardless with something like that you aren't gonna have much warning

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

turn the channel

says the clown who does nothing but post tragic news stories day in day out.

Caring like all emotions is like a muscle, don't use them and they wither and die. Just because there's nothing you can do to help doesn't mean you should ignore others' tragedies and not feel for them. Yes there are people who are voyeurs, addicted to watching others' grief. People like that are still better than people who ignore others' suffering. Ignore what you see and read enough and when the time comes when tragedy is close to home you won't help or care because you've grown accustomed to ignoring anybody's but your own pain and suffering.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Watching CNN this morning about the tornado... Parents showed up at the school, seeing the school was physically fucking gone and looking for their children... That's got to put the fear of god in you.

very crappy experience for sure

[JP-pornshooter]

KC area is one of the most visited (by tornados) spots in the US.
If that school does not have a security basement, heads should roll.
Every house should by code have a basement.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

don't be such an ignorant dumbass.

stfu sitting watching pics of smashed buildings?

Originally Posted by Mutt

says the clown who does nothing but post tragic news stories day in day out.

Caring like all emotions is like a muscle, don't use them and they wither and die. Just because there's nothing you can do to help doesn't mean you should ignore others' tragedies and not feel for them. Yes there are people who are voyeurs, addicted to watching others' grief. People like that are still better than people who ignore others' suffering. Ignore what you see and read enough and when the time comes when tragedy is close to home you won't help or care because you've grown accustomed to ignoring anybody's but your own pain and suffering.

standing around filming victims is not the way to go. put down the camera and actually help them. i see a bunch of hurt people but none of people being helped.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by lucas131

it is sad for sure ... but with all the radars and all the meteo forecasts and informations, why the hell the kids have been in school?

Where exactly would you put them?

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

KC area is one of the most visited (by tornados) spots in the US.
If that school does not have a security basement, heads should roll.
Every house should by code have a basement.

Apparently you are unaware, but not every geographical location is suitable for basements. OK is one of those places.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

KC area is one of the most visited (by tornados) spots in the US.
If that school does not have a security basement, heads should roll.
Every house should by code have a basement.

You know... I didn't want to say it, but this is the third time a tornado has blown down nearly the same exact path... At a certain point in time someone should have said "We need to build a huge underground shelter" for this school.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by crockett

If you watch that one vid, on youtube the guy in the car took. The tornado pretty much set down right in a populated area. No way they could of had any warning out side of "possible tornado's".

From the time that thing sat down, to the time you started seeing building debris flying around was less than 1 min. The warning sirens were in the background before it hit the ground, but regardless with something like that you aren't gonna have much warning

Yep, they only had warning that it was a high area of risk.
The warning are also only good if you listen to the radio or TV.
I was at an even on Sunday, before I left the forecast was for scattered thunderstorms, in a few hours a tornado was on the ground about 20 miles south of my remote location at the drag races.
I had to go tell the announcers, and show them my radar on my phone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTpc...e_gdata_player

[marcop]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Yea seen the lil doggy climb out of the rubble when it's owner was being interviewed tugged on the heart strings,so devastating

Yeah... that brought tears to my eyes.

[dyna mo]

i was torn up about it, sandy hook kids too, that's 2 big school tragedies close together.


i don't really cry these days though.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You know... I didn't want to say it, but this is the third time a tornado has blown down nearly the same exact path... At a certain point in time someone should have said "We need to build a huge underground shelter" for this school.

They can't. Why not just bus them to KS where they can have underground shelters?

[Colmike9]

https://www.facebook.com/video/embed...53577151323552

Here's a good story from the tornado.

Edit:

Originally Posted by Spunky

Yea seen the lil doggy climb out of the rubble when it's owner was being interviewed tugged on the heart strings,so devastating

Yep^

[candyflip]

Definitely sad, but no god played any role in anything.

[Markul]

It was and is horrible to watch. I cannot imagine the horror those parents go through

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by baddog

Where exactly would you put them?



Apparently you are unaware, but not every geographical location is suitable for basements. OK is one of those places.

While this is true it is mostly a cost issue, not a physical barrier.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

While this is true it is mostly a cost issue, not a physical barrier.

Cost and a physical barrier.

[tony286]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/o...6#.UZvwY8iqhcY

"An emergency official says Oklahoma has reinforced tornado shelters in more than 100 schools across the state, but the two that were hit by this week's storms in suburban Oklahoma City did not have them.

Albert Ashwood is director of the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management. He told reporters Tuesday it's up to each jurisdiction to set priorities for which schools get limited funding for safe rooms.

Ashwood says a shelter would not necessarily have saved more lives at the Plaza Towers Elementary School, where seven children sheltering in above-ground classrooms were killed. He says no disaster mitigation measure is absolute.

He says authorities are going to review which schools have safe rooms and try to get them in more schools across the state."

[bluebook18]

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by tony286

Albert Ashwood is director of the Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management. He told reporters Tuesday it's up to each jurisdiction to set priorities for which schools get limited funding for safe rooms.

it's not rocket science

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by baddog

They can't.

Of course they can.

If you told me my child had to attend school at a location that was directly in the path of three massive tornadoes in the past ten years, I would put my kid into a different school. Here where I live our kid is assigned to a school, but there is a lot of leeway as to what school they end up going to. If that's not enough, here we have charter schools. If all else fails, private school or home school them.

Yesterday on CNN they showed the track of the last three major tornadoes and all three of them were very similar. At this point it should be criminal to build a school without a large underground shelter. It's not a matter of "if" a tornado was going to hit that school, it was a matter of when.

[Sarah_Jayne]

Nature is in charge and makes the choice to remind us of that now and then.

[Captain Kawaii]

Maybe they should just move out of the way...

From the towns own website

http://www.cityofmoore.com/storm-shelters

They seemed confident would not happen again. I didn't read anything about the ground being unsuitable for underground shelters. Maybe I missed that?

Heartbreaking story about the kids and the animals.

This years seems to be the year of 200 mph winds in the US.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Of course they can.

If you told me my child had to attend school at a location that was directly in the path of three massive tornadoes in the past ten years, I would put my kid into a different school. Here where I live our kid is assigned to a school, but there is a lot of leeway as to what school they end up going to. If that's not enough, here we have charter schools. If all else fails, private school or home school them.

Yesterday on CNN they showed the track of the last three major tornadoes and all three of them were very similar. At this point it should be criminal to build a school without a large underground shelter. It's not a matter of "if" a tornado was going to hit that school, it was a matter of when.

Then I suggest not living in tornado alley; it has that name for a reason.

[lucas131]

Originally Posted by baddog

Where exactly would you put them?

at home in shelter? but yes now i see, as others posted, it was really fast, not like hurricane coming from the water ...

[baddog]

Originally Posted by lucas131

at home in shelter? but yes now i see, as others posted, it was really fast, not like hurricane coming from the water ...

Fast and no real track, they are very specific in the area they hit rather than all over like a hurricane.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by baddog

Then I suggest not living in tornado alley; it has that name for a reason.

Exactly.

My cousin lives in Florida and has had her "trailer" (whatever...) destroyed three times in the past twenty years. First time I was like "how horrible" and the second time I was like "oh that's too bad" and the third time I'm like "you are a dumb ass for not moving".

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Exactly.

My cousin lives in Florida and has had her "trailer" (whatever...) destroyed three times in the past twenty years. First time I was like "how horrible" and the second time I was like "oh that's too bad" and the third time I'm like "you are a dumb ass for not moving".

when the sacramento levy breaks

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

when the sacramento levy breaks

Levee

How many times has that happened?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

Then I suggest not living in tornado alley; it has that name for a reason.

Cali has earthquakes and fires all the time. If not that then it's mudslides.

Most of the country has it's own issues with various environmental dangers, be it earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, fires..

Where exactly should one live Baddog?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

Levee

How many times has that happened?

i haven't counted, it is considered one of, if not the, top disaster scenarios for california, from earthquakes, to oil spill, it's a big problem

[spiederman]

Originally Posted by baddog

Where exactly would you put them?



Apparently you are unaware, but not every geographical location is suitable for basements. OK is one of those places.

indeed, for what i saw watching the news ( forgive me for i am in europe ) most of the territory in the hurricane path has a rock bottom, so its kinda hard and costly to put shelters in that area

[dyna mo]

here's a bit on one problem, they disinegrate in an earthquake

Flynn says that California's vulnerable levee system is likely to break down in the event of an earthquake. A breach in these levees would cause flooding in highly populated areas and compromise two-thirds of California's fresh water supply.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=7499175

[dyna mo]

Since 1900, there have been over 160 levee failures in the Sacramento–San Joaquin River Delta. Levee failures, also known as levee breaches, can be caused by overtopping or structural failure.
Earthquakes can also cause levee failure through soil liquefaction. The most current example of levee failure in the Sacramento–San Joaquin River Delta was documented in June 2004 when a levee breach caused more than 150,000 acre·ft (190,000,000 m3) of water to flood the entire island of Jones Tract.[3]

A significant earthquake in the region (magnitude 6.5), which is not unlikely in the coming decades,[4] could cause widespread levee failure, allowing saltwater to flood the Delta and enter the canals that supply fresh water (for irrigation and drinking) to central and southern California.[5][6] This scenario is sometimes called the "Big Gulp",[4][6] and it is estimated that it would cause $40 billion of economic loss to California.[5][7] A similar result (widespread levee breaches) could also be caused by a combination of sea level rise, high tide, and storm surges

[mikesinner]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Watching CNN this morning about the tornado... Parents showed up at the school, seeing the school was physically fucking gone and looking for their children... That's got to put the fear of god in you.

No, it doesn't make you fear god unless you are already brainwashed that way. If you don't believe in the concept of a god you don't suddenly start fearing a god because of a natural disaster.

It's actually kind of a dick thing to put stuff off on god rather than dealing with it for what it is, in this case a horrible tragedy.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

Cali has earthquakes and fires all the time. If not that then it's mudslides.

Most of the country has it's own issues with various environmental dangers, be it earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, fires..

Where exactly should one live Baddog?

As usual, you exaggerate everything; yeah, we have earthquakes constantly, the difference being they rarely cause ANY damage.

For the record, in my 60 years I have never been affected by a fire or mudslide, and any earthquake issues were to cousins that were 40 miles away. I have had issues with a tornado in IN.

I'll stick with the beach.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

Levee

How many times has that happened?

oh, i see your point now, my comment was roundaboutly saying no matter where you live, someone who lives somewhere else will say i told you so if there is ever a natural disaster in your neck of the woods.

i've been contemplating adjusting my roundabout comments, they go over better irl.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Since 1900, there have been over 160 levee failures in the Sacramento?San Joaquin River Delta. Levee failures, also known as levee breaches, can be caused by overtopping or structural failure.
Earthquakes can also cause levee failure through soil liquefaction. The most current example of levee failure in the Sacramento?San Joaquin River Delta was documented in June 2004 when a levee breach caused more than 150,000 acre·ft (190,000,000 m3) of water to flood the entire island of Jones Tract.[3]

A significant earthquake in the region (magnitude 6.5), which is not unlikely in the coming decades,[4] could cause widespread levee failure, allowing saltwater to flood the Delta and enter the canals that supply fresh water (for irrigation and drinking) to central and southern California.[5][6] This scenario is sometimes called the "Big Gulp",[4][6] and it is estimated that it would cause $40 billion of economic loss to California.[5][7] A similar result (widespread levee breaches) could also be caused by a combination of sea level rise, high tide, and storm surges

Yeah, I read that too . . . except Sacramento is an hour north of the delta and Rocklin is another 20 miles from that.

https://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...ls&ie=UTF8&z=9


Fact of the matter, my daughter was conceived while we were stranded in the flood of 1982. Even the Golden Gate Bridge was closed.