IRS spent 49 million on conferences?

[Vendzilla]

http://news.yahoo.com/irs-officials-...153053184.html

Well they sure know how to party,

the IRS held 225 employee conferences from 2010 through 2012, at a total cost of $49 million, the report said.

And they are attacking conservative donors?

The president of another group, the National Organization for Marriage, said the IRS publicly disclosed confidential information about donors. George Eastman said he thought the IRS's release of that information was designed to intimidate contributors to the group ? which opposes same-sex marriage ? "to chill them from donating again."

EPA is being accused of the same?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...d-irs-scandal/

Scary Read about the Federal Data Services Hub http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articl...al-style-abuse

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Lets not sugar coat things, the IRS didn't spend shit... WE did!

[Harmon]

That works out to $21,777.78 per function.

That seems plausible. It's not like it 25 fat webmasters doing blow and banging ugly hookers at the VIP table in Vegas. This IRS thing that you speak of? From what I hear it's a pretty large operation with a lot of employees in their hierarchy.

The news is so misconstrued it's stupid. You look at the final figure and see a ridiculous amount of money and say, "WOW! The government is fucking us again..."

Look deeper.

Not to you personally, but come on now... $22k is shit

[Fat Panda]

the IRS has 110,000 employees and a $12 BILLION dollar budget

but dont worry this is a HUGE story and scandal ROFL ROFL as amerikan war criminals hop scotch around the world murdering people

[Jman]

IRS spends OUR 49 million on conferences???

Here, fixed the title for ya ;)

[Fat Panda]

the irs spends 0.0041666666666666666666666666666667 of its budget on conventions?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

i wonder how many 10s of BILLIONS DoD spends on military balls, military bands and other fucking bullshit

[Fat Panda]

not to mention radical right wing fascist corporations receive the bulk of this govt spending....but they happily take it.

fucking anti-american parasite hypocrites

[L-Pink]

Someone needs to add a zero to their numbers ...

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Jman

IRS spends OUR 49 million on conferences???

Here, fixed the title for ya ;)

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by SAC

the irs spends 0.0041666666666666666666666666666667 of its budget on conventions?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

i wonder how many 10s of BILLIONS DoD spends on military balls, military bands and other fucking bullshit

I've been in the military, I never remember having 225 balls in 3 years

Military Bands? You mean the guys that are already in uniform?

Besides, the OP was about the IRS targeting political targets, you think they are doing this for a just reason or for political reasons? If for political reasons, who do you think sent the orders? Remember Watergate?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Harmon

That works out to $21,777.78 per function.

That seems plausible. It's not like it 25 fat webmasters doing blow and banging ugly hookers at the VIP table in Vegas. This IRS thing that you speak of? From what I hear it's a pretty large operation with a lot of employees in their hierarchy.

The news is so misconstrued it's stupid. You look at the final figure and see a ridiculous amount of money and say, "WOW! The government is fucking us again..."

Look deeper.

Not to you personally, but come on now... $22k is shit

$22k 225 times in 3 years? That's a lot of shit!

[Rochard]

Sounds like a great deal to me!

On the surface this sounds like a huge amount of money. But factor in this is a two year period we are talking about, and also that the IRS has 106k employees. If you do the math, over the past two years the IRS has spent $462 per employee for training costs over two years. That breaks down to $231 in training costs per employee per year.

[L-Pink]

It's $217,000 per function. You guys are missing a zero.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Sounds like a great deal to me!

On the surface this sounds like a huge amount of money. But factor in this is a two year period we are talking about, and also that the IRS has 106k employees. If you do the math, over the past two years the IRS has spent $462 per employee for training costs over two years. That breaks down to $231 in training costs per employee per year.

Bad Math, all the employees don't go to these, just management



The one in San Diego, one Division spent 4.1 million
Here's a video they made for it

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

It's $217,000 per function. You guys are missing a zero.

Fuck me. Chalk that one up for the Boston public school system.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Fuck me. Chalk that one up for the Boston public school system.

I'm sure it was a natural reaction, I always leave a zero off when I deal with the IRS also


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[directfiesta]

That started with democrats ???

has it being going on for ever, and just now republicans are noticing ???

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I'm sure it was a natural reaction, I always leave a zero off when I deal with the IRS also


.

LOLOLOLOL

Im pretty sure a lot of people do... Especially tea partiers ;)

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

That started with democrats ???

has it being going on for ever, and just now republicans are noticing ???

I love how liberals contend it's ok because it's been going on for a while, well it's not ok, plain and simple.

The IRS got orders from Washington, that has been said already during this investigation. The IRS is a key factor in the new Obamacare which is set to tax, err ah fine people based on their income to pay for it, and they spend 4.1 million on a conference in San Diego

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I'm sure it was a natural reaction, I always leave a zero off when I deal with the IRS also


.

I come to GFY for two reasons. #1) Fuck with people. #2) see whatever bullshit (witty quips) you have to say. My #3) reason is .... fuck... Boston school system again...

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Harmon

I come to GFY for two reasons. #1) Fuck with people. #2) see whatever bullshit (witty quips) you have to say. My #3) reason is .... fuck... Boston school system again...

It really is a great place to fuck with people

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I've been in the military, I never remember having 225 balls in 3 years

That's because if you screwed 112 sailors the total would only be 224 balls. Unless of course one of them was missing a nut.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by DWB

Unless of course one of them was missing a nut.

Yeah, his name was George. W. Bush... missing nut accounted for. Over and out.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by DWB

That's because if you screwed 112 sailors the total would only be 224 balls. Unless of course one of them was missing a nut.

You sound like you speak from experience

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Harmon

That works out to $21,777.78 per function.

That seems plausible. It's not like it 25 fat webmasters doing blow and banging ugly hookers at the VIP table in Vegas. This IRS thing that you speak of? From what I hear it's a pretty large operation with a lot of employees in their hierarchy.

The news is so misconstrued it's stupid. You look at the final figure and see a ridiculous amount of money and say, "WOW! The government is fucking us again..."

Look deeper.

Not to you personally, but come on now... $22k is shit

I was looking at the same thing and 100% agree. But then think about it this way.

before and after those 22k conferences 1+1 still = 2. they could not have had much to talk about.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Bad Math, all the employees don't go to these, just management



The one in San Diego, one Division spent 4.1 million
Here's a video they made for it

You are so funny with your stats.

The $4.1mil conference was in Anaheim. The one in San Diego was $1.2mil. I'm pulling this data from the link you gave us.

Then we have another news source that gives us completely different numbers:

Spending on IRS conferences dropped substantially, from $37.6 million in the 2010 budget year to $6.2 million in 2011 and then to $4.9 million last year, according to the IRS.

The video you posted... Is unrelated. It cost the IRS $50k to produce three videos, including the one you posted.... Well, let's just say that anyone who took part in these three videos should be quartered and drawn.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You are so funny with your stats.

The $4.1mil conference was in Anaheim. The one in San Diego was $1.2mil. I'm pulling this data from the link you gave us.

Then we have another news source that gives us completely different numbers:



The video you posted... Is unrelated. It cost the IRS $50k to produce three videos, including the one you posted.... Well, let's just say that anyone who took part in these three videos should be quartered and drawn.

The numbers are all over the place depending on the news source. Thing is to think of it this way, the IRS isn't keeping good records of it's spending, aren't they the ones that ask that of us?

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I was looking at the same thing and 100% agree. But then think about it this way.

before and after those 22k conferences 1+1 still = 2. they could not have had much to talk about.

My math was way the fuck off... I was wrong. Sorry.

[BFT3K]

When the GOP wastes $50 million tax dollars voting to repeal Obamacare 38 times, do you call it small government?

When the GOP wastes $50 million tax dollars voting to repeal Obamacare 38 times, do you call them fiscally responsible?

Just checking....

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

....the IRS isn't keeping good records of it's spending...

That's fucking scary...

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

When the GOP wastes $50 million tax dollars voting to repeal Obamacare 38 times, do you call it small government?

When the GOP wastes $50 million tax dollars voting to repeal Obamacare 38 times, do you call them fiscally responsible?

Just checking....

Obamacare is going to cost us 1.8 trillion in the first decade and has generated 20,000 pages of regulations and the OP is about the part of the government that will collect the money from the citizens to pay for it. According the CBO. http://washingtonexaminer.com/cbo-ob...rticle/2529655

I would rather spend the 50 million

[TrafficTitan]

Small potatoes compared to the US military. They've squandered Trillions of dollars. They spent 100 million dollars on airline tickets over 6 years which they never used and never bothered to try to refunds even though they were reimbursable. They lost billions in cold hard cash that was being shipped to Iraq. Here is a quote from Rumsfeld.

"'According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions,' Rumsfeld admitted. $2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America."
-- CBS News, 1/29/02, U.S. Secretary of Defense raises evidence of government and military corruption

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Obamacare is going to cost us 1.8 trillion in the first decade and has generated 20,000 pages of regulations and the OP is about the part of the government that will collect the money from the citizens to pay for it. According the CBO. http://washingtonexaminer.com/cbo-ob...rticle/2529655

I would rather spend the 50 million

What was the GOP's alternative healthcare plan again?

Oh yeah... nada.

Cool platform. Good luck with that

[CaptainHowdy]

Prostitute conferences ...

[baddog]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

What was the GOP's alternative healthcare plan again?

Oh yeah... nada.

Cool platform. Good luck with that

So, it doesn't matter if the plan is any good as long as there is a plan?

Cool platform. Good luck with that

[Fat Panda]

$1.8 TRILLION hahaha rofl thats funny about the same amount medicare part d cost passed by criminal republicans in a massive redistribution of wealth to fascist corporations

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

What was the GOP's alternative healthcare plan again?

Oh yeah... nada.

Cool platform. Good luck with that

RomneyCare isn't 20,000 of pages of regulations that's going to cost trillions of dollars

[tony286]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

What was the GOP's alternative healthcare plan again?

Oh yeah... nada.

Cool platform. Good luck with that

That is the GOP's alt plan. It was the Dole plan which later became Romney care to counter Clinton Care, actually its the heritage foundation's plan. Newt spoke about how everyone should have insurance because its taking personal responsibility.

But when Blackenstein did it. it's socialism lol.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by SAC

$1.8 TRILLION hahaha rofl thats funny about the same amount medicare part d cost passed by criminal republicans in a massive redistribution of wealth to fascist corporations

I love it when people spit bullshit like that, in this case like only republicans have corporations

[tony286]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I love it when people spit bullshit like that, in this case like only republicans have corporations

Its not bullshit it was unfunded and all these worried about spending types all voted yes for it except Ron Paul. The right plays people, Dick Cheney said as VP deficits don't matter, Chris Christie says he doesnt care what it will cost to have an election only weeks before the one in Nov. When for its them they don't give a shit about spending.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by tony286

Its not bullshit it was unfunded and all these worried about spending types all voted yes for it except Ron Paul. The right plays people, Dick Cheney said as VP deficits don't matter, Chris Christie says he doesnt care what it will cost to have an election only weeks before the one in Nov. When for its them they don't give a shit about spending.

I meant its bullshit that corporations are run only by republicans, like no democrat was business savvy enough to create and own a corporation? Or is that if democrat starts business and growsit to corporation level he immediately becomes republican? Like if SAC grew his business to a certain level he would become republican because corporations are automatically republican?

[CT-Content]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

IRS spent 49 million on conferences?

Read it to quick. Thought it said you spent 49mil on conferences.
Was gonna say. You're fricken Cambodian broke as hell then bragging about kicking out
49mil.
My bad! - Sorry to fuck up your Ramen Noodle dinner!

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I love how liberals contend it's ok because it's been going on for a while, well it's not ok, plain and simple.

The IRS got orders from Washington, that has been said already during this investigation. The IRS is a key factor in the new Obamacare which is set to tax, err ah fine people based on their income to pay for it, and they spend 4.1 million on a conference in San Diego

As usual, you get off tracks ... It is even funnier that YOU are the original poster ....

Your Original post was about the money spent on videos and parties ....

My '' liberal '' question was to wonder if this spending was new or if these parties and videos existed BEFORE the democrats, so as well under previous administration , and that '' conservatives '' did not care about that spending then...

Your retort was how awful it is to have focused on conservative groups, mainly the Tea Party movement.

I agree ( and that was not the subject of the OP, you ! ). It is unacceptable to target the tea party because it is a conservative group, as it would be unacceptable to target muslims, jews, christians because of their religion, or blacks, orientals because of their race, or gays because of their sexual orientation...

BUT THAT WAS NOT YOUR ORIGINAL POST, TO WHICH I ANSWERED....

I undestand that your are challenged, and that comprehension is not as easy for you as for others, but try to stay ... focused...

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I love it when people spit bullshit like that, in this case like only republicans have corporations

Aren`t democrats all on food stamps, or fed from the tit of the government ?????

I seem to remember that it is the perception of the '' conservatives '' ....

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Aren`t democrats all on food stamps, or fed from the tit of the government ?????

I seem to remember that it is the perception of the '' conservatives '' ....

As long as not 100% of them are on food stamps there are still enough rich ones/corporate owners or CEO's.
So it is bullshit perception that all corporations are automatically owned or managed by republicans. Democrats are also business savvy and they also own or create corporations.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

As usual, you get off tracks ... It is even funnier that YOU are the original poster ....

Your Original post was about the money spent on videos and parties ....

My '' liberal '' question was to wonder if this spending was new or if these parties and videos existed BEFORE the democrats, so as well under previous administration , and that '' conservatives '' did not care about that spending then...

Your retort was how awful it is to have focused on conservative groups, mainly the Tea Party movement.

I agree ( and that was not the subject of the OP, you ! ). It is unacceptable to target the tea party because it is a conservative group, as it would be unacceptable to target muslims, jews, christians because of their religion, or blacks, orientals because of their race, or gays because of their sexual orientation...

BUT THAT WAS NOT YOUR ORIGINAL POST, TO WHICH I ANSWERED....

I undestand that your are challenged, and that comprehension is not as easy for you as for others, but try to stay ... focused...

The only challenge I have is trying to understand what the fuck you are talking about, The op was not about Democrats and Republicans, you of course tried to make it that.

My posts in this thread have been about the IRS and it's current abuse of power and irresponsible use of funds.

You didn't quote anyone, you just tried to change the subject by saying it's ok because the republicans did it in the past.

You are the first person to bring up politics

Buy a clue! Doesn't matter where it started, it needs to end.

When the IRS breaks the law by publishing donors list, people need to lose their jobs

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

The only challenge I have is trying to understand what the fuck you are talking about, The op was not about Democrats and Republicans, you of course tried to make it that.

My posts in this thread have been about the IRS and it's current abuse of power and irresponsible use of funds.

You didn't quote anyone, you just tried to change the subject by saying it's ok because the republicans did it in the past.

You are the first person to bring up politics

Buy a clue! Doesn't matter where it started, it needs to end.

When the IRS breaks the law by publishing donors list, people need to lose their jobs

I agree with this 100%. In government terms $50 million dollars is chump change. Put that into perspective. It's probably more money than everyone currently posting combined will pay in income taxes their entire lives.

If a private corporation wants to spend their money on junkets and parties it's their money. The IRS and all these wasteful government agencies can use emails to get their messages out to their employees.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

As usual, you get off tracks ... It is even funnier that YOU are the original poster ....

Your Original post was about the money spent on videos and parties ....

My '' liberal '' question was to wonder if this spending was new or if these parties and videos existed BEFORE the democrats, so as well under previous administration , and that '' conservatives '' did not care about that spending then...

Your retort was how awful it is to have focused on conservative groups, mainly the Tea Party movement.

I agree ( and that was not the subject of the OP, you ! ). It is unacceptable to target the tea party because it is a conservative group, as it would be unacceptable to target muslims, jews, christians because of their religion, or blacks, orientals because of their race, or gays because of their sexual orientation...

BUT THAT WAS NOT YOUR ORIGINAL POST, TO WHICH I ANSWERED....

I undestand that your are challenged, and that comprehension is not as easy for you as for others, but try to stay ... focused...

Take a good look at the article he posted. It seems to be about the money the IRS spent at conventions, but is really focused just as much on the Tea Party scandal. If the article is about the money the IRS spent at conventions why is the article quoting someone from the Laurens County Tea Party about how long it took for them to have the IRS review them.

[Fat Panda]

oh but of course HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS $100,000,000 ++++ spent by DoD sponsoring FUCKING NASCAR IS A FUCKING OKAY !!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...287_story.html

i cant stop ROFL at hypocrites

[Minte]

Originally Posted by SAC

oh but of course HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS $100,000,000 ++++ spent by DoD sponsoring FUCKING NASCAR IS A FUCKING OKAY !!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...287_story.html

i cant stop ROFL at hypocrites

If a private corporation wants to spend their money on junkets and parties it's their money. The IRS and all these wasteful government agencies can use emails to get their messages out to their employees.