Snowden Charged with espionage

[onwebcam]

US charges NSA leaker Snowden with espionage
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...espionage?lite

Smooth sailing for spying on citizens from here on out.

[xNetworx]

he will prolly be dead in the next few years

[oppoten]

shame, seems like a good guy.

[noshit]

And the Stockholm Syndrome minority won't take advantage of his heroic deed or Thank Him for the information he brought to stay free from tyranny...

[Rochard]

You didn't see this coming?

Two weeks into this and he hasn't exposed anything illegal, but has broken dozens of laws in the process. Duh.

[dyna mo]

even if he did reveal illegal info, he should absolutely be charged with espionage and such.

imo, it's important to separate the info he revealed from the alleged crimes he comitted.

[sarettah]

Ellsburg got charged with Espionage too. Didn't end up dead. Didn't end up in jail because the Feds screwed up so badly on the trial that they had to let him off.

It ain't over till it's over.

just my

.

[noshit]

Every single wire tap has been a Felony.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by noshit

Every single wire tap has been a Felony.

To date we haven't seen anything illegal. These taps all have warrants, and aren't aimed at US citizens.

[Phoenix]

well...the writing was on the wall.

[theking]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

US charges NSA leaker Snowden with espionage
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...espionage?lite

Smooth sailing for spying on citizens from here on out.

Good. I just hope we can get him back into the U.S. for trial.

[theking]

Originally Posted by noshit

Every single wire tap has been a Felony.

Pigshit.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

To date we haven't seen anything illegal. These taps all have warrants, and aren't aimed at US citizens.

You are either the most clueless and in denial person on Earth (welcome to theking's world) or you are joking.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by Rochard

and aren't aimed at US citizens.

This sentence makes journalists and politicians laugh, here...

There is a word for this: economic espionage...

[scottybuzz]

got to love people like rochard and theking

throw a lobster into boiling water and it will kick and scream to its death
put a lobster in cold water, slowly boil and it will die without fuss

[theking]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

got to love people like rochard and theking

throw a lobster into boiling water and it will kick and scream to its death
put a lobster in cold water, slowly boil and it will die without fuss

Stupid fucking analogy...sport.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by theking

Stupid fucking analogy...sport.

thanks for being a real life example.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by theking

Good. I just hope we can get him back into the U.S. for trial.

You're a pathetic human being. Do you know that?

Eat a bullet, Pathfinder.

[The Sultan Of Smut]

lol good thing you edited that DWB or else you would have come off too stong!

[Phoenix]

Lol morning golf day

[Barry-xlovecam]

There are times when two wrongs make a right ...

[TheSquealer]

Uhm.... quite obviously charged with a crime,... he broke the law.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by theking

Good. I just hope we can get him back into the U.S. for trial.

Were you saying the same thing about Cheney when he exposed a CIA agent?

[dyna mo]

the charges seem completely appropriate::::::::::

Snowden has been charged with three violations: theft of government property and two offenses under the espionage statutes, specifically giving national defense information to someone without a security clearance and revealing classified information about "communications intelligence".


there is no law that allows people to break laws because some people think the ends justify the means.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You are either the most clueless and in denial person on Earth (welcome to theking's world) or you are joking.

Originally Posted by pornmasta

This sentence makes journalists and politicians laugh, here...

There is a word for this: economic espionage...

From what I've read, the majority of these "illegal taps" aren't from the federal government, but are from local police department in local crimes, all of which require a warrant. If Homeland Security is involved, they are targeting terrrorists in foreign countries.

We have yet to see otherwise.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by noshit

Every single wire tap has been a Felony.

What law school did you graduate from? Better yet, how about citing your reliance?

[theking]

Originally Posted by DWB

You're a pathetic human being. Do you know that?

Eat a bullet, Pathfinder.

PF can no longer post as he passed away approaching 11 years ago but I can post. Eat my shit you ignorant perverted cock sucking fruitcake.

[theking]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Were you saying the same thing about Cheney when he exposed a CIA agent?

If I recall correctly it turned out not to be Vice President Cheney that did the exposing of Valerie Plame...but none the less...I cannot recall if I complained on this board about the outing or not. BTW I have zero use for Vice President Cheney.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

lol good thing you edited that DWB or else you would have come off too stong!

Originally Posted by theking

PF can no longer post as he passed away approaching 11 years ago but I can post. Eat my shit you ignorant perverted cock sucking fruitcake.

Whatever, Pathfinder.

Like I said, eat a bullet. We both know you've had a gun in your mouth many lonely nights, so next time you put it there, solider up and squeeze the trigger. Do the world a favor.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Were you saying the same thing about Cheney when he exposed a CIA agent?

What makes you think Cheney had anything to do with it?

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by baddog

What makes you think Cheney had anything to do with it?

Facts?


Vice President Dick Cheney, according to a still-highly confidential FBI report, admitted to federal investigators that he rewrote talking points for the press in July 2003 that made it much more likely that the role of then-covert CIA-officer Valerie Plame in sending her husband on a CIA-sponsored mission to Africa would come to light.

Cheney conceded during his interview with federal investigators that in drawing attention to Plame's role in arranging her husband's Africa trip reporters might also unmask her role as CIA officer.

http://murraywaas.crooksandliars.com...cutor-and-fbi/

[theking]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Facts?


Vice President Dick Cheney, according to a still-highly confidential FBI report, admitted to federal investigators that he rewrote talking points for the press in July 2003 that made it much more likely that the role of then-covert CIA-officer Valerie Plame in sending her husband on a CIA-sponsored mission to Africa would come to light.

Cheney conceded during his interview with federal investigators that in drawing attention to Plame's role in arranging her husband's Africa trip reporters might also unmask her role as CIA officer.

http://murraywaas.crooksandliars.com...cutor-and-fbi/

She was exposed by Richard Armitage.

On July 14, 2003, Washington Post journalist Robert Novak, using information obtained from Richard Armitage at the US State Department, effectively ended Valerie Plame's career with the CIA (from which she later resigned in December 2005) by revealing in his column her identity as a CIA operative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie...22Plamegate.22

[baddog]

Oh, if Waas said it, it must be true. Sorry. The courts were wrong again

[eroticfem]

I doubt he will get any prison time at all what he did was the right thing, some one had to tell the rest of the world the wrong doings of the US gov..

[BFT3K]

[RummyBoy]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

http://www.boozallen.com/media-cente...rmation-060913

Well he's been fired it seems....... my friend is trying to apply for his job but he can't find it advertised at the vebsite.

[BFT3K]

Sound familiar?

[GAH]

What a mess this is becoming.

How can Snowden be charged with being a spy, when that was his employment title for the US government? It can't be espionage and treason one minute and 'security' the next!

With Snowden admitting today in the Guardian that Chinese mobile phone companies are hacked, and that the British also gain access, does that mean all those involved in these two countries can have extradition notices served on them by the Chinese, for being spies, that Cameron and Obama are ordered to hop on a plane to Beijing and explain themselves?

At best, it will take years to come to fruition, the extradition of Snowden to America, or he'll catch a train to China and stick his two fingers up to America. At worst it could bankrupt some of America's biggest technology companies, Facebook, MySpace, Apple, Yahoo, Google and many others. The business opportunity for someone to guarantee they will keep information safe is wide open for others to step in. And alienate America and Britain, with them becoming yesterday's USSR and East Germany.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by GAH

At best, it will take years to come to fruition, the extradition of Snowden to America, or he'll catch a train to China and stick his two fingers up to America. At worst it could bankrupt some of America's biggest technology companies, Facebook, MySpace, Apple, Yahoo, Google and many others. The business opportunity for someone to guarantee they will keep information safe is wide open for others to step in. And alienate America and Britain, with them becoming yesterday's USSR and East Germany.

LOL wut? MySpace? alienate America and Britain?

[pimpmaster9000]

ah you gotta love the US double standard

the US gov spends BILLIONS of $$$$ on fucking spying other countries BUT when one of their own SPIES gives up some info its ESPIONAGE

the US gov spends HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS on bombing other countries and this is, somehow, not terrorism and is "100% legal" BUT a guy detonates a pressure cooker and its WMD

The US gov spends BILLIONS on "overthrowing dictatorships" but has the same 2 political dynasties ruling it since basically the 1800-s

The US gov represents 5% of the world population, but sees fit to dictate how the other 95% of humanity should live, and the word "democracy" is crammed in to the same sentence as US government

[Konda]

He's currently in a plane from HK to Russia. From there he will most likely fly to Cuba, Iceland or Equador

[RummyBoy]

Originally Posted by Konda

He's currently in a plane from HK to Russia. From there he will most likely fly to Cuba, Iceland or Equador

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regiona...d-for-russia-1

This is msn Malaysia source..... how reliable?

If Chinese let him go, no way Russian will take him otherwise.... they're playing football with him.

[Konda]

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regiona...d-for-russia-1

This is msn Malaysia source..... how reliable?

Anyway the Russian will want to help USA.

It's also on other news channels.

Hong Kong confirmed it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...WikiLeaks.html

Russia will not help the USA, they will let him fly to wherever he is planning to go.

[RummyBoy]

Originally Posted by Konda

It's also on other news channels.

Hong Kong confirmed it.

Wrong........ Hong Kong did not arrest him because the US documents supplied were incorrect. I guess someone's head is going to roll (as they say in USA)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...tradition.html

PS What why would someone's head roll anyway?

[seeandsee]

they will hunt him, just to show what they do

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Konda

He's currently in a plane from HK to Russia. From there he will most likely fly to Cuba, Iceland or Equador

Hopefully one of them will shelter him long term and perhaps even give him citizenship.

[crockett]

We have both conservatives and liberals backing the govt on this and the right has been quiet as a mouse on all this when it's the biggest scandal yet, that they could try to lynch Obama with.

That should be enough to tell anyone this shit is fucking us with a 12 foot dildo. I think they are hiding even more..I support Snow den on this from what I've seen so far, this is a power grab by both the right and left and it's our rights they are taking.

Just saying...

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

Wrong........ Hong Kong did not arrest him because the US documents supplied were incorrect. I guess someone's head is going to roll (as they say in USA)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...tradition.html

PS What why would someone's head roll anyway?

If you were seriously asking, its a reference to someone having their head chopped off by an executioner and it rolling across the ground.

[GAH]

Originally Posted by Mutt

LOL wut? MySpace? alienate America and Britain?

I thought the same after I read it back about MySpace I should have edited it out.

I read today that private messaging through Facebook has reduced by nearly 30% since news broke that it is unsafe to do so and is being read by America. I would expect Facebook to all but fade away within a few years because of this (like MySpace has!), and the same with Google and Apple. If that does happen, and companies like Sony and Samsung replace them, how can American technology companies rebuild the little trust they have left?

If it had been Putin and Hu Jintao invading Iraq, arming the Libyans, murdering their leaders, continually goading Iran and North Korea and about to arm the Syrian rebels, mostly because of oil. If Efgany Snodenov had been a whistle-blower escaping to the US to tell the world Russia has been spying on every American's mobile phone and computer usage, then sharing it with Iran and China, what would be the likely outcome?

It soon will be the world's population v America and Britain if things don't change soon.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by oppoten

shame, seems like a good guy.

He's in Moscow now. Am I right?