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Old 07-04-2013, 03:50 PM   #1
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Makes you wonder if the British empire had stayed together

They would be huge. The land, natural resources, etc. I doubt The world wars would have ever got going.
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history told us that all empires fall apart one day
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I doubt The world wars would have ever got going.
What are you talking about? The British Empire was at its peak in the period right before WWI and actually got to its largest size after that war.
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What are you talking about? The British Empire was at its peak in the period right before WWI and actually got to its largest size after that war.
i believe this is why i mistook you for british..
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i believe this is why i mistook you for british..
Ha, I thought the "USA" location under my avatar would be the giveaway. Actually just a few hundred miles south of you.

Not even really an Anglophile either, I do kinda dig that period of history tho...
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What are you talking about? The British Empire was at its peak in the period right before WWI and actually got to its largest size after that war.
USA 1776
Canada 1867
Australia 1901 (pretty much)

So I think they had shed some pretty serious colonies by then.
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And now what? They will be a colony of muslims soon. From hero to zero. Sad story.
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USA 1776
Canada 1867
Australia 1901 (pretty much)

So I think they had shed some pretty serious colonies by then.
we didn't really become a country into after ww1, newfoundland was it's own country at the time etc

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Ha, I thought the "USA" location under my avatar would be the giveaway. Actually just a few hundred miles south of you.

Not even really an Anglophile either, I do kinda dig that period of history tho...
yea that's what did it.. lol

yea the period of history is fascinating
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And now what? They will be a colony of muslims soon. From hero to zero. Sad story.
It's definitely sad to hear that London/England is being overrun by them.

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It's definitely sad to hear that London/England is being overrun by them.

"40% of England's Muslims live in London, where they make up 8.5% of the population."

kinda like how african-americans only account for 13% of the population of the states
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I think what would have been more interesting, would have been if the US & USSR had stayed friendly after WWII.

I wonder how the world would be shaped today had there been no cold war but 2 super powers being allied.
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I think what would have been more interesting, would have been if the US & USSR had stayed friendly after WWII.

I wonder how the world would be shaped today had there been no cold war but 2 super powers being allied.
on the other hand, maybe it was the competition spurred on by the cold war that motivated the USA to strive to be the best in space, tech, human rights.

ever since the soviets fell, the USA is flabby & shabby.

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Well if the British Empire had remained together the Queen would be the Queen of the World.
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It's still an empire... Isn't that old lady also the Queen of Canada; Australia and a LOT of other countries?
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What are you talking about? The British Empire was at its peak in the period right before WWI and actually got to its largest size after that war.
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"40% of England's Muslims live in London, where they make up 8.5% of the population."

kinda like how african-americans only account for 13% of the population of the states
Indigenous Brits are officially a minority in London (as well as some other cities now).
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They would be huge. The land, natural resources, etc. I doubt The world wars would have ever got going.
The first world war was a clash of all the major empires.
The second world war is what killed off the British empire, even America's involvement was in part, designed to kill off the empire. In fact, the second world war did such a good job of fucking over the supposed winners that even today us Brits feel the repercussions and some historians have even suggested that the British should be on the losers list of the war!!
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I think what would have been more interesting, would have been if the US & USSR had stayed friendly after WWII.

I wonder how the world would be shaped today had there been no cold war but 2 super powers being allied.
That is out of this world dreams. Two direct competitors...I never could understand why USSR was against all US rock music, movies, $ - against everything - until I grew up.
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kinda like how african-americans only account for 13% of the population of the states
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lol wut? the British Empire was at its peak in WWI and still huge in WWII - Canada and Australia were still closely attached to the Empire at the time of WWII.

The World Wars finished off the British Empire, which people say was for the good but looking at a map of the former Empire what followed for its former colonies has hardly been an improvement - yay we're freeeeee, free to kill each other, free to live in poverty, free to rape ........ The US inherited the mess.

Colonialism is a bad thing, empires are a bad thing but it's in man's nature it seems to conquer and control more land, more people, more riches.
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Indigenous Brits are officially a minority in London (as well as some other cities now).
This has more to do with the fact that London is the center of the financial world. Everywhere you go are rich folks from all over. I met like one or two Brits the whole time I was there and it is not like I was in a rough part of town.

NYC has always been this way too. It is the place to move too once you have made some cash.
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This has more to do with the fact that London is the center of the financial world. Everywhere you go are rich folks from all over. I met like one or two Brits the whole time I was there and it is not like I was in a rough part of town.

NYC has always been this way too. It is the place to move too once you have made some cash.
Nope, it has almost nothing to do with that because same situation is in other cities as well, take Birmingham for example.
Nobody is talking about rich guys, we are talking about poor breeding immigrants here.
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As time goes by countries rise and fall. At one time Rome was vast and so too was Spain.

Today its China thats getting huge.

In a 50 years it may be Africa thats huge.

Things change.

Its only soil.

I realy could not care less.
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This has more to do with the fact that London is the center of the financial world. Everywhere you go are rich folks from all over. I met like one or two Brits the whole time I was there and it is not like I was in a rough part of town.

NYC has always been this way too. It is the place to move too once you have made some cash.
London I bet will not be soon.
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Indigenous Brits are officially a minority in London (as well as some other cities now).
Does it matter.

In truth most people in the UK are probably conected to other countries. Do you think when the Romans came over they were not having sex with the locals. And the roman army was made up of africans and people world wide. No one in the uk is realy native.

I realy do not care if someone has a black or brown face, and pays in a different way. It makes no difference to me.

Live and let live.
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lol wut? the British Empire was at its peak in WWI and still huge in WWII - Canada and Australia were still closely attached to the Empire at the time of WWII.

The World Wars finished off the British Empire, which people say was for the good but looking at a map of the former Empire what followed for its former colonies has hardly been an improvement - yay we're freeeeee, free to kill each other, free to live in poverty, free to rape ........ The US inherited the mess.

Colonialism is a bad thing, empires are a bad thing but it's in man's nature it seems to conquer and control more land, more people, more riches.
I have to say, I am not sure when Canada and Australia cut ties. If we don't get more ties to other countries, what is the direction? The world stays as it is, and we keep fighting until someone crazy gets nukes and uses them? We form a worldwide EU type of thing?

The EU showed that countries need to be accountable for what they do if their is a higher control on the money. Now it was a bailout etc but they were forced to put their houses in order. The US has not done this yet and may never until we go bankrupt.

I just see it as crazy that the USA is spending so much on military. At some point the UN needs to be a real force or ? NASA is done. No one else is doing much. So at our current pace, we just keep trading paper until we use all of our resources and die off? Shouldn't the human race start to create some bigger goal?
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London I bet will not be soon.
Things change but London is the flight city of choice for Europe right now. And obviously it is stupid. Athens is a better buy but that is why you have smart money and dumb money.
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It's still an empire... Isn't that old lady also the Queen of Canada; Australia and a LOT of other countries?
He He

Even scotland is on about splitting up from England.
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Things change but London is the flight city of choice for Europe right now. And obviously it is stupid. Athens is a better buy but that is why you have smart money and dumb money.

The thing is I can see such as Dubai tempting banks over.

I know if I was a banker its where I would want to go as its so cool.
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Iraland is interesting as due to the low tax and Irish american conections, that attracts huge american businesses, such as google. And its the big gateway I think for many american countries into the eu.
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I think what would have been more interesting, would have been if the US & USSR had stayed friendly after WWII.

I wonder how the world would be shaped today had there been no cold war but 2 super powers being allied.
Do not forget that it was germany and ussr who were friends to start with.

But some silly reason mr hitler desided to mess them about.
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Funny thing is, when you stop trying to create multiple groups, most of the population in those areas is a Caucasian majority.

Oh well, you should look at how many "indigenous" Brits live elsewhere in the world. The freedom we have to travel these days is pretty amazing when you think about it. Just remember, it works both ways. If you don't like where you live, then move.

Hopefully UKIP will get the vote next election and finally stop the bullshit.
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Does it matter.

In truth most people in the UK are probably conected to other countries. Do you think when the Romans came over they were not having sex with the locals. And the roman army was made up of africans and people world wide. No one in the uk is realy native.

I realy do not care if someone has a black or brown face, and pays in a different way. It makes no difference to me.

Live and let live.
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Let's face it, teenage pregnancy wasn't such a bad thing was it? Keeps the numbers up
The new war will be; How fast can you reproduce and squeeze as many people as possible into a council house
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does it realy matter?

i realy could not care less.

t the end of the day you may as well live and let live as there is nothing else you can do. just be happy.
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Let's face it, teenage pregnancy wasn't such a bad thing was it? Keeps the numbers up
The new war will be; How fast can you reproduce and squeeze as many people as possible into a council house

If it was not for the fact we have sooo many slutty women, i would never get models.
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That's bullshit. Just because England didn't recognize us as one doesn't mean we weren't our own nation. What does newfoundland have to do with anything?
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The way see it, however bad england gets.

At least one thing, we are not Canada.

At least most people have heard of our priminister.

So whatever country you live in, just be happy that your not Canada.
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It's definitely sad to hear that London/England is being overrun by them.

People said the same about the jews in the late 1800´s, The Italians in the 20´s, The West Indians in the 50´s.. I could go on.


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That's bullshit. Just because England didn't recognize us as one doesn't mean we weren't our own nation. What does newfoundland have to do with anything?
Forgotten who you quoted or something there? I'm pretty sure England would have known there was a country the other side of the sea that they were largely responsible for existing.

He's right about Newfoundland though, it was "seperate", it was still part of the British Empire until 1949.

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The way see it, however bad england gets.

At least one thing, we are not Canada.

At least most people have heard of our priminister.

So whatever country you live in, just be happy that your not Canada.
I forgot how much of an idiot you were. Thanks for reminding me.
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He's right about Newfoundland though, it was "seperate", it was still part of the British Empire until 1949.
Because they wanted to be, they were offered independence but voluntarily gave direct control to the UK.
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:00 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by rogueteens View Post
Because they wanted to be, they were offered independence but voluntarily gave direct control to the UK.
Most Newfies I've met say, they wish it stayed that way as well. Not that I've met that many.

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