I thought I would share with the fellow gfy guitarists.

[tony286]

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Roland--...source=4TP3L5J

its a free webinar with Jeff Skunk Baxter and Steve Stevens.

[Minte]

What is kind of sad about the music scene. All the great guitarists that people would go to see at large shows are all old guys. Clapton, Trower,Vai, Eric Johnson, Satriani.

I can't even name a young player that I'd want to see at a large venue.

Are guitar players going the way of typewriters?

[garce]

Yes we are done Learning how to play an instrument is about as relevant as learning Latin is now. And I actually had to take Latin classes in high school just to rub salt into my open gaping wound...

[Seth Manson]

Originally Posted by Minte

What is kind of sad about the music scene. All the great guitarists that people would go to see at large shows are all old guys. Clapton, Trower,Vai, Eric Johnson, Satriani.

I can't even name a young player that I'd want to see at a large venue.

Are guitar players going the way of typewriters?

All the good players are on youtube these days. Music has changed and kids now just want to hear some constipated-sounding guy screaming into the mic and to them the guitar player is about as useful as the drummer. Just for background ambience.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Didn't know Steve Stevens had a reality show...

A few good young guitarists:







Let's not let the boys have all of the fun...







ADG

[Dead]

At 13 years old opening for Allman Brothers...


It bit older and more refined....


Minte, you need to head out to some of the festivals, you will be blown away at some of the young talent that can been seen.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Minte

What is kind of sad about the music scene. All the great guitarists that people would go to see at large shows are all old guys. Clapton, Trower,Vai, Eric Johnson, Satriani.

I can't even name a young player that I'd want to see at a large venue.

Are guitar players going the way of typewriters?

There are plenty of very good guitarists out there now, but it is a different era. The days of the "guitar god" are gone. Now it is more about the band and less about the individual members.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Didn't know Steve Stevens had a reality show...

A few good young guitarists:







Let's not let the boys have all of the fun...







ADG

I have seen Bonamassa live and he is of that caliber that I was talking about. And Orianthi is as amazing. When she comes anywhere near the area I will buy tickets.

We have the worlds largest music fest every summer here in Wi. I always go for one day and catch a lot of good acts. And there are a lot. But you don't see any of them headlining at arena venues. It's all lady gaga,...and that genre'

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Minte

What is kind of sad about the music scene. All the great guitarists that people would go to see at large shows are all old guys. Clapton, Trower,Vai, Eric Johnson, Satriani.

I can't even name a young player that I'd want to see at a large venue.

Are guitar players going the way of typewriters?

I never thought about it, you have a point.

[dyna mo]

thx for the headsup, i just registered for that webinair, i hope it's informative as i recenty snagged a boss rc300 loop station and it comes with 16 of the boss effects pedals built-in!



http://www.bossus.com/gear/productde...ProductId=1182



like josie charlwood uses, i think she is completely amazing!

[Minte]

I am in the office today. I had Voodoo Chile cranked up loud and my secretary walked in because I didn't hear the phone ring. She smiled..and asked. Who is that playing? Then she said I'll have him call you back later.

Some days it's good to be the boss.

[dyna mo]

who's version of voodoo?

[dyna mo]

some modern day guitarists i would go see in a large venue

[Minte]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

who's version of voodoo?

Orianathi's

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Minte

Orianathi's

man, she's good, i never really hear much of her stuff though, i guess it's not classified as blues and i've got all my random music searches set to blues.

i'll have to track down her version.


btw, do you know what guitar that is she typically plays? i don't recognize it.

[dyna mo]

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by tony286

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Roland--...source=4TP3L5J

its a free webinar with Jeff Skunk Baxter and Steve Stevens.

Thanks for this Tony! When I was a recording engineer in the 80s, I once met Skunk Baxter and it was the only time in my life that I was ever star-struck. LOVE his playing.



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[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Minte

What is kind of sad about the music scene. All the great guitarists that people would go to see at large shows are all old guys. Clapton, Trower,Vai, Eric Johnson, Satriani.

I can't even name a young player that I'd want to see at a large venue.

Are guitar players going the way of typewriters?

It's called getting OLD and not adapting. Shit changes man, it's the way it goes. Either adapt or hate?

[Minte]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

man, she's good, i never really hear much of her stuff though, i guess it's not classified as blues and i've got all my random music searches set to blues.

i'll have to track down her version.


btw, do you know what guitar that is she typically plays? i don't recognize it.

She plays PRS..they have a signature Orianthi available. Santana I believe turned her on to them. He is a real big fan of hers and basically named her as one of his favorite guitar players

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Harmon

It's called getting OLD and not adapting. Shit changes man, it's the way it goes. Either adapt or hate?

I don't have anything against Lady Gaga or Justin Beiber etc... I just don't think I will be buying tickets to any of their concerts. I don't need to adapt. The guys I like are still touring and playing well. And for them I do buy tickets.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Minte

I don't have anything against Lady Gaga or Justin Beiber etc... I just don't think I will be buying tickets to any of their concerts. I don't need to adapt. The guys I like are still touring and playing well. And for them I do buy tickets.

And I doubt your parents would have bought tickets to see the bands you went to see as a teen.

Things change. "guitar heroes" are just not of interest to non-guitarists anymore.

I went to see Vai a few months ago, it was an audience of guitarists and their bored looking girlfriends.

[dyna mo]

hey, hope it's ok to change the op topic but since all the guitarists are here, i've got a music theory question-

as of a few weeks ago i've been practicing my scales a lot, >1.5 hours/day and i LOVE practing and learning them. currently focused on the blues scale, in all keys.

but it's raised a lot of questions for me-

why are scales so important?

what are the benefits of practicing and learning the scales?

in fact, who even created scales and the rules for them? ( i wiki'd this and the wiki is confusing to me)

what the hell is a phrygian mode?

who is dorian?

which scale should i incorporate in my practice sessions after the blues scale?

should i take the time to study the theory behind scales or just learn the application?

!

[Minte]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

And I doubt your parents would have bought tickets to see the bands you went to see as a teen.

Things change. "guitar heroes" are just not of interest to non-guitarists anymore.

I went to see Vai a few months ago, it was an audience of guitarists and their bored looking girlfriends.

I do have a good grasp of the obvious.

My comment was that it was kind of sad to see power guitar players go the way of the typewriter. Nothing more, not an indictment of today's youth or their taste in music.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Minte

I do have a good grasp of the obvious.

My comment was that it was kind of sad to see power guitar players go the way of the typewriter. Nothing more, not an indictment of today's youth or their taste in music.

i predict a reemergence, minte. similar to how the teen blues guitarists of the 90s emerged after srv died like johnny lang and kenny wayne sheperd.

the difference now is that software/tech is making learning guitar more approachable and enjoyable. there will be some gifted guitarists to emerge from this new way of learning guitar.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

hey, hope it's ok to change the op topic but since all the guitarists are here, i've got a music theory question-

as of a few weeks ago i've been practicing my scales a lot, >1.5 hours/day and i LOVE practing and learning them. currently focused on the blues scale, in all keys.

but it's raised a lot of questions for me-

why are scales so important?

what are the benefits of practicing and learning the scales?

in fact, who even created scales and the rules for them? ( i wiki'd this and the wiki is confusing to me)

what the hell is a phrygian mode?

who is dorian?

which scale should i incorporate in my practice sessions after the blues scale?

should i take the time to study the theory behind scales or just learn the application?

!

Modes are patterns of putting together notes in major scales. What is confusing about music theory is that modes can be interchanged and combined in any type of music.

Pull up some Larry Coryell vids on youtube. If I had to name one master of modes it would be him. What you hear when you listen to him are short riffs that at first don't sound like they should work together. But they do.

Music theory can be a 4 year degree so my suggestion is at this stage of your guitar playing, ignore it all. Let your ear decide what sounds good.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Minte

Modes are patterns of putting together notes in major scales. What is confusing about music theory is that modes can be interchanged and combined in any type of music.

Pull up some Larry Coryell vids on youtube. If I had to name one master of modes it would be him. What you hear when you listen to him are short riffs that at first don't sound like they should work together. But they do.

Music theory can be a 4 year degree so my suggestion is at this stage of your guitar playing, ignore it all. Let your ear decide what sounds good.

appreciated.

i certainly don't want to get bogged down in theory. but i've been told and have read that fully learning and practicing scales and continuing to do both, is very important, would you agree with this?

i do feel like my fret work is better as a result.

[DigitalDesire]

Thread direction change...Who do you think is the greatest guitarist of all time? I vote for Jimmy Page. So many different styles, tones and textures. Acoustic and electric work. 6 string, 12 string, and all the other instruments. Amazing.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

appreciated.

i certainly don't want to get bogged down in theory. but i've been told and have read that fully learning and practicing scales and continuing to do both, is very important, would you agree with this?

i do feel like my fret work is better as a result.

I agree with that 100%. practicing scales is really the basis of guitar playing.
The challenge is mastering scales in all the keys. And finally it's the modes that put it all together. When a song moves up or down a half step, that's where the modes really come into play.

[DAMNMAN]

Meet Andy James Mutha Fuckhas

[Minte]

Originally Posted by DigitalDesire

Thread direction change...Who do you think is the greatest guitarist of all time? I vote for Jimmy Page. So many different styles, tones and textures. Acoustic and electric work. 6 string, 12 string, and all the other instruments. Amazing.

That's always a tough one. If you are drinking beers..Stevie Ray Vaughn. drinking wine.. Joe Pass.. smoking a joint..Frank Zappa. But I can't disagree about Page either. Certainly one of the top rock guitarists of all time.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by DAMNMAN

Meet Andy James Mutha Fuckhas

Great tone and speed. Reminds me a lot of Steve Morse. Very fluid in his playing

[dyna mo]

you know who is an epic guitar technician who gets overlooked in the best guitar player ever contest?

pete townshend.


dude was masterful. is he #1, i don't necc think so but he's up there imo!



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[Minte]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you know who is an epic guitar technician who gets overlooked in the best guitar player ever contest?

pete townshend.


dude was masterful. is he #1, i don't necc think so but he's up there imo!



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I always thought that the Who was a better band than they were actual musicians.
Their chemistry just worked. I've seen them live and they did a good show.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Minte

I always thought that the Who was a better band than they were actual musicians.
Their chemistry just worked. I've seen them live and they did a good show.

i felt the same, i recently watched a doc on them, in particular the making of who's next. according to that, some of what's still popular today goes back to townshend, the power chord for instance.

but him in the studio, using effects+guitar = genius imo, oh hah, full circle back to the op.

o and re: best guitarist, i would imagine it's someone i've never truly listened to nor understand the intricacies & difficulties, especially now that i am understanding how hard it is to play the guitar and how much practice is involved.

but i am learning several songs of the masters- born under a bad sign by albert king and srv (the in sessions version), a gary clark jr song, a cream/eric clapton song, a couple others.

what stands out clearly for me is how naturally the chord progressions and note progressions are with eric clapton song and srv and albert king. the next note/chord feels natural, my fingers just go there. still learning these songs though so while they are natural, they are still very difficult for me. both in learning the new notes and chords but in consistently playing those that i've already learned.

not so with the other guitarists. gary clark jr, i'm flailing through parts of that song. dan aurbach/black keys too, the progressions, while fantastic, feel clumsy to me.

don't know if that makes sense to other guitarists or not but it sure feels that way to me.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Minte

I always thought that the Who was a better band than they were actual musicians.
Their chemistry just worked. I've seen them live and they did a good show.

The who was very unique that the guitar ,drums and bass were all doing very different things, its metered chaos. They were very very tight as a band. The rolling stones did a tv special the rolling stones circus, The Who debuted townsends first rock opera the quick one. They were so powerful they made everyone else look like shit. The stones never released the tv show til years later.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uRPdfg46NjI

This was live and at the end the drum skins Moon used had a layer of oil in them. He burst them playing so hard. Listen to Tommy (the original recording ) in a dark room with headphones on it was amazing and the bass player was also the french horn player.

[keysync]

My oldest son is 15 and he's all kinds of interested in playing guitar. So the art isn't dead.

[Nydahl]

these days music is only about video - more hot black chicks you have , more helicopters you have , more golden necklace you have means better music.
Makes me feel I am old and so are all my true guitar heroes I used to pray to.
I love Pat Metheny - but its jazz music of course

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Nydahl

these days music is only about video - more hot black chicks you have , more helicopters you have , more golden necklace you have means better music.
Makes me feel I am old and so are all my true guitar heroes I used to pray to.
I love Pat Metheny - but its jazz music of course

It became a visual format. Back in the day some ugly mother fuckers made great music now they wouldnt get a contract. They used to also grow talent. Halls and oats didnt start making money til kiss on my list. They made six records before voices which had kiss on my list. Same with REO speed wagon. Now a days they spend so much if you arent a hit maker out of the gate you are gone.