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DarkJedi · 03-04-2003, 10:06 AM

Out of the infinite possibilities in the implicate order, only some things undergo the formality of actually occurring. Why those things, and not others? Thinking about this boggles me, in a good way. The things that are happening aren't mundane because they're real--they are all very unlikely, in fact.

corvette · 03-04-2003, 10:12 AM

thefly?

iroc409 · 03-04-2003, 10:16 AM

is that kinda like "the desk itself is not real, only the image of the desk in my head is real" ?

Jakke PNG · 03-04-2003, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by iroc409
is that kinda like "the desk itself is not real, only the image of the desk in my head is real" ?

You need help.

iroc409 · 03-04-2003, 10:19 AM

it kinda makes sense tho, doesn't it? i mean what about those with mental issues, like hallucinating? (SP?). i mean, they THINK that dude with an axe chasing them is real...

gothweb · 03-04-2003, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by iroc409
is that kinda like "the desk itself is not real, only the image of the desk in my head is real" ?

Absolutely nothing like it.

Jak · 03-04-2003, 10:49 AM

Real occurrences are just as likely to happen as potential occurrences and only have a slight edge of being chosen when compared with other potentials within a set limit of infinite possibilities related to the occurence.

Imagine an infinite set of potential circumstances. Now randomly pick one of them. What condition caused that particular choice to be made? Someone may assert that some occurrences have the edge of occurring over others, due to previous circumstances creating an "occurrence probability pathway" and that would be partially correct given the fact that all occurrences exist within infinite "sets" of infinite probable happenings.

You break your arm when you fall out of a tree. The "set" of results in this case is made up of infinite pathways related to the result of falling out of a tree. You could have just as easily broken your leg, your neck, nothing at all, ad infinitum, but you would not perform dental surgery on a cat 4,000 miles away as a direct result of falling out of the tree, since that possibility does not exist within that particular infinite set (although there is always the possibility that it does).

Infinite probability is only as infinite as relative circumstances and preconditioned potentials allow it to be. For something to happen requires an infinite amount of computing within an infinite but limited set of probabilities.

Quite a bit of high intensity computing going on out there just to get my pen to fall off my desk.

Dawgy · 03-04-2003, 10:51 AM

hmm. ill have to bookmark this thread, then come back later when im drunk.

Lane · 03-04-2003, 11:02 AM

One day the AI people will completely explain the structure of the brain and how it works, and maybe even be able to simulate it..

Try not to think too hard, hehe..

Sarah_Jayne · 03-04-2003, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by iroc409
is that kinda like "the desk itself is not real, only the image of the desk in my head is real" ?

no but i know what you mean. I can play with that line of thought all night if I have to. How do we know things taste like they taste? etc.

Miss Novette · 03-04-2003, 11:16 AM

Reality is nothing more than perception. Therefore everyone's reality is different. If we perceive something is possible, than the likelyhood of it coming to pass is great. Consider this, if 5 people climb a tree, the person who fears falling out of a tree will be the one who will fall out first. Or is this just my perception? (hehe)

Okay, guess it could be said in two words...sh%$ happens.

Jakke PNG · 03-04-2003, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc

How do we know things taste like they taste? etc.

Mmm.. matrix flasback.

ItBurnsWhenIpee · 03-04-2003, 11:17 AM

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

Sarah_Jayne · 03-04-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

Mmm.. matrix flasback.

yes, but weirdly I had a similar debate with my husband a couple months before we saw it. All I have to do is start a discussion on a thread like that to drive him looney...works for me.

LadyMischief · 03-04-2003, 11:21 AM

I need something improbable to happen to me today.. Like something large to fall on my mother-in-law's head or something... Anything to make her leave me alone for an entire minute straight.

Grr

hybrid · 03-04-2003, 11:24 AM

So what exactly is your point?

iroc409 · 03-04-2003, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Jak
Now randomly pick one of them. What condition caused that particular choice to be made?

aha! congratulations, you have contradicted yourself. this is only in support that there is absolutely NO "truly random" act in the universe, it is not possible.

thus, i prefer to use the term "pseudo-random".

Butrflied · 03-04-2003, 11:25 AM

there is no spoon

Serge Litehead · 03-04-2003, 12:35 PM

i heard it somewhere b4: anything that can go wrong, will go wrong

The Porn Dude · 03-04-2003, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Butrflied
there is no spoon

TheFLY · 03-04-2003, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by corvett
thefly?

I've given up on most of this train of thought... but I'll take a stab for fun...

Essentially there is a God force, the apriori (origin) of all the objective/subjective (shit/stuff)... There's only one way that shit can happen (look at history, and in 1 billion years, there still is only 1 history) -- no parallel universe stuff... It's based on God's love... God has infinitely expanding love (ex: life) and requires the love of an infinitely expanding number of born souls (God needs infinite Love of course!) -- hence oxygenated planets, space travel, reproduction, Olsen Twins like Pringles, etc. All the survival, destruction, herpies, tials, tribulations, seasons (barriers to expansion) -- just God's pimp hand entertainment -- why would a God make a line expand or a dick expand (too easy) -- stands to reason God is going to be infinitely complex, funny, loving, entertaining, etc. (like any good lover times infinite) -- and God has PMS too so that's why you suffer -- in order for us to recognize God's pimp hand, there had to be some barrier to entry (He's not a slut) -- once you a God-ho, your get insider access to pimp handedness (ie: will power, awareness, Crouching Tiger) -- you intermingle with the expansion of creation at all times... Don't be like Mulder, you can't fight the future.

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