Stupid snot-nosed brat.

[LightscapeMedia]

[Markul]

she clearly knows nothing and should be forced to go through boot

[DutchTrafficService]

She's right though.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService

She's right though.

She's wrong in every way.

It's not a 50/50 chance that you get killed and soldiers are actually told to go to war.

[Emil]

Originally Posted by Markul

She's wrong in every way.

It's not a 50/50 chance that you get killed and soldiers are actually told to go to war.

Are they forced to be soldiers too? I dont agree with the 50/50-part but the "serving your country" aka USA-superhero-soldier-veterans bullshit is just ridicules.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Emil

Are they forced to be soldiers too? .

If you were drafted then yes, you were forced.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Emil

Are they forced to be soldiers too? I dont agree with the 50/50-part but the "serving your country" aka USA-superhero-soldier-veterans bullshit is just ridicules.

In your country and my country people that are shipped into war zones are all volunteers, at least in this day and age. But I think that memorial day in the US represents all fallen soldiers and veterans. Plenty to be honored.

Many people that have your point of view, forget that it wasn't that long ago that we were liberated by (amongst some) the US from the Nazis and if it weren't for the allied forces - we'd have all been part of the old borg-collective-USSR.

But yea, as L-Pink said you can be drafted and you can be forced to go to war in the US. At least when I was stationed with NATO I met some US soldiers that were not there because they wanted to be.

[iwiiiiiiiiii]

You can not support war, fine, but without all these soldiers, you wouldn't be surfing over internet right now. They gave us freedom, and just for that they deserve our respect.

[Mutt]

What an ugly ignorant little troll she is.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService

She's right though.

We should have let the Nazis keep the Netherlands or perhaps given it to the Soviets if that's the way you feel.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Markul

In your country and my country people that are shipped into war zones are all volunteers, at least in this day and age. But I think that memorial day in the US represents all fallen soldiers and veterans. Plenty to be honored.

Many people that have your point of view, forget that it wasn't that long ago that we were liberated by (amongst some) the US from the Nazis and if it weren't for the allied forces - we'd have all been part of the old borg-collective-USSR.

But yea, as L-Pink said you can be drafted and you can be forced to go to war in the US. At least when I was stationed with NATO I met some US soldiers that were not there because they wanted to be.

Markul is correct …...

From Colonial times thru the end of the Vietnam war US males were drafted to fight for their country. Young males are still required to register in case draft is reinstated but all armed forces are currently volunteer.

Your parents probably had a very different view of American soldiers than you do.

Veteran's Day is for any soldier that ever served the US.


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[DutchTrafficService]

Originally Posted by Mutt

We should have let the Nazis keep the Netherlands or perhaps given it to the Soviets if that's the way you feel.

We might have been better off yes.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService

We might have been better off yes.

Well we sure would have been better off if your parents/grand parents were war casualties.

[RubyGoodnight]

Looks like she must have been getting shit for the post. She's got a public profile on FB and the status isn't there anymore. Guess her "I don't feel bad" attitude changed.

[DutchTrafficService]

We all know americans are special, or "exceptional" as obama liked to call it

Funny how most don't even understand the only real americans are indians....you're just european trash that we kicked out

[Minte]

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService

We all know americans are special, or "exceptional" as obama liked to call it

Funny how most don't even understand the only real americans are indians....you're just european trash that we kicked out

Business 101..don't shit where you eat.


All I can do is be happy for this generation that does not have to deal with a draft like I did during Vietnam.

[freecartoonporn]

is she blond ?

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService

We all know americans are special, or "exceptional" as obama liked to call it

Funny how most don't even understand the only real americans are indians....you're just european trash that we kicked out

I know right?

On 15 May 1940, one day after the bombing of Rotterdam, the Dutch forces surrendered

On 15 May 1940, one day after the bombing of Rotterdam, the Dutch forces surrendered

On 15 May 1940, one day after the bombing of Rotterdam, the Dutch forces surrendered

Americans - pffff.

The Germans deported the majority of the country's Jews to concentration camps, with the cooperation of the Dutch police and civil service; the Netherlands saw one of the highest levels of collaboration during the Holocaust of any occupied country

Now, after that entertaining read, lets go back to bashing America for some unknown reason.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService

We all know americans are special, or "exceptional" as obama liked to call it

Funny how most don't even understand the only real americans are indians....you're just european trash that we kicked out

where do you think the Indians originated from :D

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Well we sure would have been better off if your parents/grand parents were war casualties.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService

We might have been better off yes.

It makes me sick to think of how many Canadians died liberating your country so that you could be here today acting like an ignorant twerp.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberat...Netherlands%29

Either you are completely ignorant of history or you just like being an idiot for the sake of it.

As the famous saying goes: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

[EddyTheDog]

War gives me a headache - I think it boils down to it being a necessary evil - I despise it, but...

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by iwiiiiiiiiii

You can not support war, fine, but without all these soldiers, you wouldn't be surfing over internet right now. They gave us freedom, and just for that they deserve our respect.

While I would agree with your statement looking into events like Pearl Harbour etc - how exactly do you feel that invading afganistan, iraq, etc gave American citizens any freedom?

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

While I would agree with your statement looking into events like Pearl Harbour etc - how exactly do you feel that invading afganistan, iraq, etc gave American citizens any freedom?

I personally believe

1. Afghanistan SHOULD have been invaded. Taliban claimed responsibility for 9/11 attack.
2. Iraq should NOT have been invaded. That was a war based, at best, on incorrect information and at worst....
3. Not sure what you mean by etc. Syria would have been a huge mistake and I was horrified and demoralized by how the "can't work together for any reason" leaders jumped together like lap dogs to support that attack.

that is my personal opinion. Most USA folks have their own opinions.

[Phoenix]

She is an idiot. Hopefully she is grounded for a long time.

[Bourke]

You can be in support of the soldiers and not in support of war. Anyone willing to give their time, efforts and potentially their life to their country should be supported. It is not their fault their countries leaders hoodwinked them into believing the cause was just. Several of my friends ended up in Afghanistan, when they joined the Aus Army was largely involved in peace keeping and aid efforts. They wanted to be part of that and ended up fighting a war.

[UniqueD]

"A number of people maintain that it was a disgruntled ex-boyfriend who posted the message in her name.

This ex-boyfriend or another perpetrator may have gained access to Keely?s Facebook account and posted the hateful message. Or the message may have been posted from a cloned profile.

Keely also posted a message denying that she wrote the post and noting that she felt scared by the stream of accusatory messages berating her. She suggests that someone must have taken her picture and details and created a fake Facebook profile."

source: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/keely-cur...campaign.shtml

[seeandsee]

She is nut case, what does she know about war

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

1. Afghanistan SHOULD have been invaded. Taliban claimed responsibility for 9/11 attack.

Did they?

[Alex1776]

Originally Posted by Manfap

Did they?

Also, Taliban were real dicks to their own citizens

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

I personally believe

1. Afghanistan SHOULD have been invaded. Taliban claimed responsibility for 9/11 attack.

You can't really say a sovereign nation should be invaded because of a specific group of people residing there. That's like saying the US "deserves to be invaded" by muslim countries because they are against gays and the US harbours them.

Originally Posted by Bourke

You can be in support of the soldiers and not in support of war. Anyone willing to give their time, efforts and potentially their life to their country should be supported.

There's a certain part of your statement here i've given a bit of thought right now. There can be more then one interpretation of "to their country". By going to afganistan, they are giving thier time, effort, and lives "to thier country" in the sense of (for lack of better words here) "availability to do what the government of america see's fit for them to do". With that interpretation, I do agree. However, the other interpretation of "to their country" would be that they are somehow risking their lives "to protect the freedoms or serve the people of their country", for which I would disagree. Invading any country is in no way serving the people of their own country. *DEFENDING* your own country from attack is.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by UniqueD

"A number of people maintain that it was a disgruntled ex-boyfriend who posted the message in her name.

This ex-boyfriend or another perpetrator may have gained access to Keely?s Facebook account and posted the hateful message. Or the message may have been posted from a cloned profile.

Keely also posted a message denying that she wrote the post and noting that she felt scared by the stream of accusatory messages berating her. She suggests that someone must have taken her picture and details and created a fake Facebook profile."

source: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/keely-cur...campaign.shtml

A variation of the "Some Black Guy Did It" defense.


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[Spunky]

Ungrateful self absorbed punk.They didn't realize the sacrifices the men and women did for their freedom

[Jel]

Isn't the point though that she is allowed to freely express her own opinion(s), however distateful they might be? And at 16, she is hardly going to be as clued-up as she will be in future years, where she'll 99% regret saying what she did, let alone thinking that way. I think the key words in her case are ignorant, clueless, and stupid, rather than out and out hateful.

Then again I do give lots of people the benefit of doubt, somewhat naively a lot of the time, I must confess.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by UniqueD

"A number of people maintain that it was a disgruntled ex-boyfriend who posted the message in her name.

This ex-boyfriend or another perpetrator may have gained access to Keely?s Facebook account and posted the hateful message. Or the message may have been posted from a cloned profile.

Keely also posted a message denying that she wrote the post and noting that she felt scared by the stream of accusatory messages berating her. She suggests that someone must have taken her picture and details and created a fake Facebook profile."

source: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/keely-cur...campaign.shtml

Well sometimes, shit like this does happen. Fucking awful *if* that is the case here.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Jel

Isn't the point though that she is allowed to freely express her own opinion(s), however distateful they might be? And at 16, she is hardly going to be as clued-up as she will be in future years, where she'll 99% regret saying what she did, let alone thinking that way. I think the key words in her case are ignorant, clueless, and stupid, rather than out and out hateful.

Then again I do give lots of people the benefit of doubt, somewhat naively a lot of the time, I must confess.

Absolutely she is allowed to express her own opinions as we all are, so she should be prepared for people to express their opinions on what she said.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Absolutely she is allowed to express her own opinions as we all are, so she should be prepared for people to express their opinions on what she said.

yeah I hear ya mate, I just take into consideration she doesn't have the brains as yet to fully understand what she is saying

Not trying to defend what she said in any way btw, just thinking back to how vastly different I was at 16 to even when I was 20, let alone a 'real' adult, like I almost am now

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by UniqueD

"A number of people maintain that it was a disgruntled ex-boyfriend who posted the message in her name.

This ex-boyfriend or another perpetrator may have gained access to Keely?s Facebook account and posted the hateful message. Or the message may have been posted from a cloned profile.

Keely also posted a message denying that she wrote the post and noting that she felt scared by the stream of accusatory messages berating her. She suggests that someone must have taken her picture and details and created a fake Facebook profile."

source: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/keely-cur...campaign.shtml

[Sly]

Whether or not you support any given war or military action, it would be very naïve to not realize that every single one of us has benefited from having some form of military in the past. Doesn't matter what country you are from. Humans have hunted, slaughtered, and warred for millennia, yet every single one of us is here typing away on a message board from the comfort of our homes/Offices/public libraries. ;-)

Before bashing the military, I suggest looking into the history of your country/people. You were protected by someone, from someone.

[2012]

you win the prize

[Lichen]

She is right.

I'm supposed to honor a bunch of uneducated suckers who killed innocent people so rich assholes could get richer? I don't think so.

Soldiers are monumental losers, scum. This is universally acknowledged by all decent people.

[Lichen]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

If you were drafted then yes, you were forced.

Except they are not drafted. They enlist by choice because they are losers who are too stupid to get a real profession. They don't protect your "freedoms", they chose to go willingly kill other people because of government handouts.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Lichen

She is right.

I'm supposed to honor a bunch of uneducated suckers who killed innocent people so rich assholes could get richer? I don't think so.

Soldiers are monumental losers, scum. This is universally acknowledged by all decent people.

It's really a shame you weren't in the twin towers on 9/11.. You and your lemming decent people only have the rights you do because someone else put it all on the line.

[Strike_ads]

If central bankers start all the wars,for profit and to degrade humanity
to advance the NWO, are veterans heroes -or mercenaries & dupes?

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService

We might have been better off yes.

Well sure. We all know the story of ann frank and her family and how the Germans generously gave them pensions bought them a villa in the south of France so they could love out their lives in complete bliss and happiness as with many other Dutch families before the US/Britain/Canada liberated your family so that you could be here today talking stupid shit

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Lichen

Except they are not drafted. They enlist by choice because they are losers who are too stupid to get a real profession. They don't protect your "freedoms", they chose to go willingly kill other people because of government handouts.

So, no one was drafted in the Civil War, WW1, WW2, Korean War, Vietnam.


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[sandman!]

please show me where the Taliban claimed responsibility for 9/11 attack

i must have missed something

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

I personally believe

1. Afghanistan SHOULD have been invaded. Taliban claimed responsibility for 9/11 attack.
2. Iraq should NOT have been invaded. That was a war based, at best, on incorrect information and at worst....
3. Not sure what you mean by etc. Syria would have been a huge mistake and I was horrified and demoralized by how the "can't work together for any reason" leaders jumped together like lap dogs to support that attack.

that is my personal opinion. Most USA folks have their own opinions.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Lichen

Except they are not drafted. They enlist by choice because they are losers who are too stupid to get a real profession. They don't protect your "freedoms", they chose to go willingly kill other people because of government handouts.

Has anyone clued you in to how ignorant you are?

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by Lichen

She is right.

I'm supposed to honor a bunch of uneducated suckers who killed innocent people so rich assholes could get richer? I don't think so.

Soldiers are monumental losers, scum. This is universally acknowledged by all decent people.

Hey dip shit, some people join so they can serve and get a free college education.

[2012]

Originally Posted by Lichen

She is right.

I'm supposed to honor a bunch of uneducated suckers who killed innocent people so rich assholes could get richer? I don't think so.

Soldiers are monumental losers, scum. This is universally acknowledged by all decent people.

Originally Posted by Lichen

Except they are not drafted. They enlist by choice because they are losers who are too stupid to get a real profession. They don't protect your "freedoms", they chose to go willingly kill other people because of government handouts.