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Turkey Fucks USA - No plans for another vote.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...turkey_us_iraq
Payback's gonna be a bitch on this move by the Turks. ![]()
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well USA promised them money for their past operation and they never received a dime.
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turkey fucked themselves.
Fucking muslims think they can blackmail Bush. too funny.
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Isn't it true that they (Turkey) are voting again this Tuesday?
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I heard they were voting again.
Also that the American Media had been getting the story wrong and making Turkey look bad with inaccuracies. That the actual amount of money in form of a loan that they were promising was $4 billion ( not $30 billion ).
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Seems odd that we would have to pay them in order to protect their interests. I know we are protecting our interests as well, but they are benefiting. Greed, plain greed.
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there are 2 factors which play role in Turkey at the moment: 1) it's a Moslem Country and USA did reneg on it's promise from prev Gulk War 2) Germany is making their dandiest to make sure that Turkey will never be the part of EU, and either Turks decided to play Germany card or disapointed with West all together |
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I'm turkish.
Fuck you.
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I'm Saddam
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Hadn't heard that... I think they've had a plan in place just in case for a while now, so hopefully it isn't going to be too big a deal. (One less listing in the US's check book.)
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Karma is a bitch. Nobody trust the Americans any more.. They have fucked and back stabed to many times..
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How many of the countries that owe the US billions and billions in loans or receive billions and billions in aid think they were stabbed in back by the US now? 1441 was unanimous - that means 100% of the UN agreed with America - and 1441 was pretty clear in it's intention. The important countries still trust America. Some will put their own interests ahead of America - but that has little to do with trust.
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This is just another sign that Bush is way in over his head.
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Exactly. In the first war Usa said all of the economical loses of Turkey will be compansated. It is estimated that Turkey lost around 100 Billion. Usa only paid couple million $$$. They have estimated that Turkey will lose around 180 billion in this war. Compare the money Usa will make in this war to the money Turkey will lose... I don't even understand why politicians are even voting for this. |
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The money the US will MAKE? ![]() Man are you out of touch with reality. We could buy every drop of their oil for less than this war will cost. It's not about oil and it REALLY isn't about the US making money. You really didn't think about that before you said it did you?
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112 billion barrels of oil X 18 per barrel = 20.160.00.000.000 |
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Do you think we've ran out of the oil we took from Iraq last time? OK then - you may go stand in line with the others who think this is all about oil..... ![]() ![]()
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People don't want war..
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Yeah... but through out history people many times have decided it was far better than the alternative. ![]()
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Plus Iraq has the lowest recovery costs of any producing country so the profit margin is way fatter. Plus don't forget the US Taxpayers foot the bill. The Oil Companies pillage the profits. Nice having your own private army and fleet of aircraft carriers to do your land acquisition work for you at no cost. ![]()
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Israel still holds the distinction of being the only country we've ever given bilions to who still likes us.
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I wonder if all those restaurants which are no longer serving "french" fries will stop serving "Turkey" sandwiches now?
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I had a turkey sandwich for lunch today. It was great. Can't beat fresh deli meat.
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I say we should arm kurds...fuck Turks
________________________________________ noboby wants this war. So I support Turkey on their decision. By the way, I agree with Wildcard .. fuck you Serge_Oprano .. Come on choose a finger now.. ![]()
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about time the turkeys finally fought back against their oppressors.
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Gobble gobble.
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Turkey finally is revealing its true colors
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There's something about this that bugs me. I'm not one of the people who thinks that other countries have to do whatever the U.S. tells them to do, but this smells bad - almost as if it was designed to make Bush look bad.
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I'm courious about what changed or happened between the time I went to bed last night when they said Turkey was going to vote again Tuestday, and this morning when I heard they weren't. I haven't payed much attention to the news all day so maybe I missed something?
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Turkey's damage is over $160billion since 1991, Turkey lost this money with stopping trade with iraq. US promised to help and never did it.. now Bush knocking Turks door and requesting for help... if you were instead of Turks what would you do?
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From what I've heard this morning - It looks like is a "fair" chance there will be a second vote. Flexing their muscles a little is one thing, but I just can't imagine them being total fools when it gets down to it.
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Bush has busted our balls with this war, next week he'll ask help from other planets to fight Iraq.
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what exactly did turkey sell to iraq that gave them a 16 billion a yr profit? dirt? opium? what? ![]()
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Did you hear anything about finding over 150 tonnes of anthrax and nerve gas in Iraq that had been unreported ?
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Turkey is a good friend of the U.S. Its the only Moslem country that is a member of NATO and more or less democratic.
They have their own internal problems. Christ, most of the European population opposes the war, is it any surprise that a border moslem country - has a population that will vote the fucks all out of office if they approve the deal? Its no big deal. The invasion will go on through Kuwait as planned, and Turkey will quietly help in ways that don't make it into the NY Times. |
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