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Old 03-02-2003, 07:18 AM   #1
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Turkey Fucks USA - No plans for another vote.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...turkey_us_iraq

Payback's gonna be a bitch on this move by the Turks.
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Old 03-02-2003, 07:22 AM   #2
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well USA promised them money for their past operation and they never received a dime.
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well USA promised them money for their past operation and they never received a dime.
That's called "The American Way".
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That's called "The American Way".
Nah... it's done here all the time, and this board is world wide.

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turkey fucked themselves.
Fucking muslims think they can blackmail Bush. too funny.
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Payback's gonna be a bitch on this move by the Turks.


Isn't it true that they (Turkey) are voting again this Tuesday?
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Fucking muslims think they can blackmail Bush. too funny.
I say we should arm kurds...fuck Turks
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I heard they were voting again.

Also that the American Media had been getting the story wrong and making Turkey look bad with inaccuracies. That the actual amount of money in form of a loan that they were promising was $4 billion ( not $30 billion ).
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Isn't it true that they (Turkey) are voting again this Tuesday?
No they aren't gonna do that now.
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Seems odd that we would have to pay them in order to protect their interests. I know we are protecting our interests as well, but they are benefiting. Greed, plain greed.

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Seems odd that we would have to pay them in order to protect their interests. I know we are protecting our interests as well, but they are benefiting. Greed, plain greed.

I don't think so....

there are 2 factors which play role in Turkey at the moment:
1) it's a Moslem Country and USA did reneg on it's promise from prev Gulk War

2) Germany is making their dandiest to make sure that Turkey will never be the part of EU,
and either Turks decided to play Germany card or disapointed with West all together
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Fuck you.
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No they aren't gonna do that now.

Hadn't heard that...

I think they've had a plan in place just in case for a while now, so hopefully it isn't going to be too big a deal.

(One less listing in the US's check book.)
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Fuck you.
And how would you have voted??

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Old 03-02-2003, 01:47 PM   #17
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Karma is a bitch. Nobody trust the Americans any more.. They have fucked and back stabed to many times..
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Karma is a bitch. Nobody trust the Americans any more.. They have fucked and back stabed to many times..


How many of the countries that owe the US billions and billions in loans or receive billions and billions in aid think they were stabbed in back by the US now?


1441 was unanimous - that means 100% of the UN agreed with America - and 1441 was pretty clear in it's intention.


The important countries still trust America.

Some will put their own interests ahead of America - but that has little to do with trust.
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This is just another sign that Bush is way in over his head.
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Exactly. In the first war Usa said all of the economical loses of Turkey will be compansated. It is estimated that Turkey lost around 100 Billion. Usa only paid couple million $$$. They have estimated that Turkey will lose around 180 billion in this war. Compare the money Usa will make in this war to the money Turkey will lose... I don't even understand why politicians are even voting for this.

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Compare the money Usa will make in this war to the money Turkey will lose...


The money the US will MAKE?


Man are you out of touch with reality.

We could buy every drop of their oil for less than this war will cost.
It's not about oil and it REALLY isn't about the US making money.

You really didn't think about that before you said it did you?
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The money the US will MAKE?


Man are you out of touch with reality.

We could buy every drop of their oil for less than this war will cost.
It's not about oil and it REALLY isn't about the US making money.

You really didn't think about that before you said it did you?

112 billion barrels of oil X 18 per barrel = 20.160.00.000.000
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112 billion barrels of oil X 18 per barrel = 20.160.00.000.000



Do you think we've ran out of the oil we took from Iraq last time?

OK then -

you may go stand in line with the others who think this is all about oil.....


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People don't want war..
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Yeah...

but through out history people many times have decided it was far better than the alternative.
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112 billion barrels of oil X 18 per barrel = 20.160.00.000.000
Its more like 300 Billion Barrels x $35 = 10.5 Trillian

Plus Iraq has the lowest recovery costs of any producing country so the profit margin is way fatter.

Plus don't forget the US Taxpayers foot the bill. The Oil Companies pillage the profits. Nice having your own private army and fleet of aircraft carriers to do your land acquisition work for you at no cost.
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Its more like 300 Billion Barrels x $35 = 10.5 Trillian

Plus Iraq has the lowest recovery costs of any producing country so the profit margin is way fatter.

Plus don't forget the US Taxpayers foot the bill. The Oil Companies pillage the profits. Nice having your own private army and fleet of aircraft carriers to do your land acquisition work for you at no cost.

Damn right it is -
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I do a lot of business out of turkey, so that kind of makes me turkish, So I am in the same boat here..
I send a big out to those dissing turkey
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Israel still holds the distinction of being the only country we've ever given bilions to who still likes us.

oh, and turkey lost 100 billion? when since the dark ages?
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I wonder if all those restaurants which are no longer serving "french" fries will stop serving "Turkey" sandwiches now?
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Israel still holds the distinction of being the only country we've ever given bilions to who still likes us.

oh, and turkey lost 100 billion? when since the dark ages?
With all the indirect benefits our aid to Israel is now at $8 Billion per year. I'd like ya too for $20 Million dollar daily handout.
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I had a turkey sandwich for lunch today. It was great. Can't beat fresh deli meat.
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I say we should arm kurds...fuck Turks
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noboby wants this war. So I support Turkey on their decision.

By the way, I agree with Wildcard ..

fuck you Serge_Oprano ..

Come on choose a finger now.. ..
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There's something about this that bugs me. I'm not one of the people who thinks that other countries have to do whatever the U.S. tells them to do, but this smells bad - almost as if it was designed to make Bush look bad.

Anyone who knows my opinion of Bush knows I don't think he needs any help to look bad. Still, this one kind of stinks.
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There's something about this that bugs me. I'm not one of the people who thinks that other countries have to do whatever the U.S. tells them to do, but this smells bad - almost as if it was designed to make Bush look bad.

Anyone who knows my opinion of Bush knows I don't think he needs any help to look bad. Still, this one kind of stinks.

I'm courious about what changed or happened between the time I went to bed last night when they said Turkey was going to vote again Tuestday, and this morning when I heard they weren't.

I haven't payed much attention to the news all day so maybe I missed something?
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Turkey's damage is over $160billion since 1991, Turkey lost this money with stopping trade with iraq. US promised to help and never did it.. now Bush knocking Turks door and requesting for help... if you were instead of Turks what would you do?
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I'm courious about what changed or happened between the time I went to bed last night when they said Turkey was going to vote again Tuestday, and this morning when I heard they weren't.

I haven't payed much attention to the news all day so maybe I missed something?
It is not for sure that there won't be a second voting. The problem is, there will be an general election in one city of Turkey, because something was messed up at the previous election , and the government decided to do the election again (kind of like the shit happened in Florida). So, they are really busy and decided not to talk about the voting until the election in that city takes place. They will decide what to do after the election.
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Payback's gonna be a bitch on this move by the Turks.
It started today. There stock market tanked almost 13% while there currency has lost 5% of it's value. I guess there markets were counting on those billions to prop them up. LOL
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It started today. There stock market tanked almost 13% while there currency has lost 5% of it's value. I guess there markets were counting on those billions to prop them up. LOL

From what I've heard this morning - It looks like is a "fair" chance there will be a second vote. Flexing their muscles a little is one thing, but I just can't imagine them being total fools when it gets down to it.
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Turkey's damage is over $160billion since 1991, Turkey lost this money with stopping trade with iraq.
what a dopey statement to believe.
what exactly did turkey sell to iraq that gave them a 16 billion a yr profit? dirt? opium? what?
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Did you hear anything about finding over 150 tonnes of anthrax and nerve gas in Iraq that had been unreported ?
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Turkey is a good friend of the U.S. Its the only Moslem country that is a member of NATO and more or less democratic.

They have their own internal problems. Christ, most of the European population opposes the war, is it any surprise that a border moslem country - has a population that will vote the fucks all out of office if they approve the deal?

Its no big deal. The invasion will go on through Kuwait as planned, and Turkey will quietly help in ways that don't make it into the NY Times.
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Quote:
Originally posted by strainer
and Turkey will quietly help in ways that don't make it into the NY Times.
that's what i was thinking.....
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