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Old 03-15-2014, 09:08 AM   #1
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Kristin Cavallari doesn't believe in vaccines

She clearly sounds like an authority. "And stuff" always wins me over.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-...autism-2014143
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It's sadly amusing when hollyweird celebs I've never heard of (and don't care about) become medical experts and use their celeb status to give sermons from the soap box.

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I don't believe in Jay Cutler, but ..... wait for it ..... wait .... keep waiting .......


..... like a vaccine, the Bears are stuck with that annoying prick for a few more years.
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Would be ironic if her kid died from measles or something like that.
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I don't blame her. If it's not from vaccines then why are all these kids getting autism?

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I don't blame her. If it's not from vaccines then why are all these kids getting autism?

Can be because of:
Changes in the definition of autism, rather than use of the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR vaccine), led to increased diagnosis of autism in the United States and probably in Europe, says a study from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota (Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine 2005;159:37-44).

Before the late 1980s and early 1990s, these children were diagnosed as retarded or having developmental delay, lead author William Barbaresi, a developmental paediatrician, told the BMJ.

The prevalence of autism increased more than eightfold in the United States, from 5.5 (95% confidence interval 1.4 to 9.5) per 100 000 children in 1980-3 to 44.9 (32.9 to 56.9) per 100 000 in ?
http://www.bmj.com//content/330/7483/112.5
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I don't blame her. If it's not from vaccines then why are all these kids getting autism?.......
You really don't know the answer to that?..
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no. do you?
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I don't blame her. If it's not from vaccines then why are all these kids getting autism?

Your chart shows us a rise in autism. It does not show us why. I think it's because of aliens. Yes, aliens.

Why? Well, why not?
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Your chart shows us a rise in autism. It does not show us why.
If you dont know why then why rag on people who believe it's from the mercury in the child vaccines?
At least theres some science behind that instead of what you guys are offering which is nothing.

Paul&John gave an intelligent answer. The rest of you support your theories by giving jokes without giving any concrete reason why.
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If you dont know why then why rag on people who believe it's from the mercury in the child vaccines?
At least theres some science behind that instead of what you guys are offering which is nothing.

Paul&John gave an intelligent answer. The rest of you support your theories by giving jokes without giving any concrete reason why.
Paul&John are correct - The question was asked and answered...

Autism and a myriad of other childhood illnesses are over diagnosed - Simple answer to a simple question.....
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If you dont know why then why rag on people who believe it's from the mercury in the child vaccines?
At least theres some science behind that instead of what you guys are offering which is nothing.

Paul&John gave an intelligent answer. The rest of you support your theories by giving jokes without giving any concrete reason why.
I did not support my theory at all, because I have no theory, though I do agree with Paul&John and have stated this in the past.

My thread is commenting on "bad stats and stuff." If she believes something, that's fine, but support it properly so people can make real decisions instead of "Kiristin said it's bad!" Celebrities on a soapbox are dangerous.
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I don't blame her. If it's not from vaccines then why are all these kids getting autism?

Or was it because it was improperly reported in the early 1980s and before then? Or is it because the definition of autism has changed and has become wider? I have a friend who has a son with autism, yet it doesn't really seem anything is wrong with him?

What's causing it? Lead Paint? C02?

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The prevalence of autism increased more than eightfold in the United States, from 5.5 (95% confidence interval 1.4 to 9.5) per 100 000 children in 1980-3 to 44.9 (32.9 to 56.9) per 100 000 in ?
http://www.bmj.com//content/330/7483/112.5
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Go ahead and pump your children full of this toxic shit. See if I care. These fucked up kids are EVERYWHERE. I know several people with fucked up kids who vaccinated their kids. Strange, I don't know of a single kid who has not been vaccinated who is fucked up.

So pump them full of shit. Have fun caring for an autistic child and having your life destroyed. Have fun with a kid with a damaged immune system who constantly has a runny nose, is sick all the time, glazed over eyes, learning disabilities, behavioral problems, etc etc etc. These problems generally are not happening to kids who are not vaccinated.

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I don't blame her. If it's not from vaccines then why are all these kids getting autism?

Your graph coincides with the rise in popularity of sport utility vehicles. She should avoid ford explorers and stuff.
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Go ahead and pump your children full of this toxic shit. See if I care. These fucked up kids are EVERYWHERE. I know several people with fucked up kids who vaccinated their kids. Strange, I don't know of a single kid who has not been vaccinated who is fucked up.

So pump them full of shit. Have fun caring for an autistic child and having your life destroyed. Have fun with a kid with a damaged immune system who constantly has a runny nose, is sick all the time, glazed over eyes, learning disabilities, behavioral problems, etc etc etc. These problems generally are not happening to kids who are not vaccinated.
i am guessing you do not have children of your own.
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Go ahead and pump your children full of this toxic shit. See if I care. These fucked up kids are EVERYWHERE. I know several people with fucked up kids who vaccinated their kids. Strange, I don't know of a single kid who has not been vaccinated who is fucked up.

So pump them full of shit. Have fun caring for an autistic child and having your life destroyed. Have fun with a kid with a damaged immune system who constantly has a runny nose, is sick all the time, glazed over eyes, learning disabilities, behavioral problems, etc etc etc. These problems generally are not happening to kids who are not vaccinated.
talk about sweeping generalizations...i assume you know way more kids who are vaccinated than those who aren't..regardless think you are just making it all up as the majority people don't ask parents if they got their kid vaccinated or not.
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She clearly sounds like an authority. "And stuff" always wins me over.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-...autism-2014143
if she sucks my dick, she will be immunized for a lot of things, i have antibodies for a lot of diseases... Great news, isn't it ?
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If she believes something, that's fine, but support it properly so people can make real decisions instead of "Kiristin said it's bad!" Celebrities on a soapbox are dangerous.
Huh. "She believes something that's fine", but if she's in an interview and someone asks her then she's on a soapbox?
What is she supposed to do? Not answer it?

She's not on a soapbox. The interviewer asked the question in the middle of the interview and she said she didn't vaccinate and gave her opinion why. She even twisted her head because its such a touchy subject and she didn't want to be seen as preachy.

She said she did her own research on it and also found a group who didn't vaccinate any of their kids and they are fine and none of the kids had autism after not vaccinating.

She wasn't twirling her hair and snapping her gum, she gave a good response.

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LOL. Make sure you get your flu vaccinations, make sure you're on schedule!

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Go ahead and pump your children full of this toxic shit. See if I care. These fucked up kids are EVERYWHERE. I know several people with fucked up kids who vaccinated their kids. Strange, I don't know of a single kid who has not been vaccinated who is fucked up.

So pump them full of shit. Have fun caring for an autistic child and having your life destroyed. Have fun with a kid with a damaged immune system who constantly has a runny nose, is sick all the time, glazed over eyes, learning disabilities, behavioral problems, etc etc etc. These problems generally are not happening to kids who are not vaccinated.
No you don't, you're full of shit and you know it. As Phoenix said, you don't have kids do you?
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No you don't, you're full of shit and you know it. As Phoenix said, you don't have kids do you?
It is not just the vaccines. It is all the pollution which kids are now subjected to on a daily basis. GMO crops are created to withstand pesticides so farmers just spray more and more toxins onto our food. Most products are made out of plastic which have toxins that leach out. Kids put these in their mouths. They breathe in these toxins when they are sleeping because some of it becomes airborne. The breathe in cancer causing flame retardants when they hug their teddy bear as they sleep. Most people live near busy roads and this pollution seeps into houses. Must of the water is contaminated with crazy things like rocket fuel and has traces of pharmaceutics. The list goes on and on.

The people who are cautious about vaccines are not saying that vaccines the the only thing causing all these problems in kids, they are saying that they think vaccines are often the trigger that puts kids over the edge.

Vaccines are a cocktail of garbage and toxins. It is not just the actual vaccine people are worried about but also the adjuvants that make the vaccine stronger and also the preservatives. Did you know that recently the military and the government workers in Germany were to be given vaccines that were free of all this garbage while the general population was given shots with all the garbage? Why do you think Angela Merkel was not standing in line with the plebeians to get a shot full of junk? Oh by the way this news did not come from some whacked out blogger but from Der Spiegel. (I think Agela Merkel tried to quell the outrage by saying she would get the regular vaccine but who knows if she actually did it, probably not).

If you exist in the matrix and believe that the medical establishment is actually trying to do what is best for all humans then I guess there is no point arguing about vaccines and other hot button issues such as GMOs. However if you are one of the people who has decided to be open minded and take a good look at what is going on in the cancer and pharmaceutical industry and how doctors are rewarded then it all becomes very disturbing and you will proceed with caution.

Statement of reality: Vaccines save some lives. Some kids who do not get vaccinated will die from things like whooping cough. Some kids who get the vaccines will either die or have lifelong health problems. Some kids who get the vaccine will still get the disease they have been vaccinated against. It is a crap shoot.

One thing that is certain is that most humans are dumb as a fucking box of rocks and simply follow the herd. The herd used to think cigarette smoking was perfectly safe and even healthy.

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The prevalence of autism increased more than eightfold in the United States, from 5.5 (95% confidence interval 1.4 to 9.5) per 100 000 children in 1980-3 to 44.9 (32.9 to 56.9) per 100 000 in ?
http://www.bmj.com//content/330/7483/112.5
That's the kind of silly excuse which Big Pharma want people to fall for, however it's easy to look around you and realize that we don't have an epidemic of Autism in people over 50. Sure, diagnosis does improve when you've suddenly got an epidemic of an illness which most doctors hadn't seen before, if you give doctors more practice at diagnosing an disease they will get more skilled at it.

Fortunately these claims have already been well debunked by many experts.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...15/3/e277.full

"Conclusions. Cohort curves suggest that autism prevalence has been increasing with time, as evidenced by higher prevalences among younger birth cohorts. "
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That's the kind of silly excuse which Big Pharma want people to fall for, however it's easy to look around you and realize that we don't have an epidemic of Autism in people over 50. Sure, diagnosis does improve when you've suddenly got an epidemic of an illness which most doctors hadn't seen before, if you give doctors more practice at diagnosing an disease they will get more skilled at it.

Fortunately these claims have already been well debunked by many experts.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...15/3/e277.full

"Conclusions. Cohort curves suggest that autism prevalence has been increasing with time, as evidenced by higher prevalences among younger birth cohorts. "
Since less people are vaccinating are the autism rates decreasing?
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Since less people are vaccinating are the autism rates decreasing?
While there are a few more anti-vaxxers these days and also a few more people are going by a slowed down, reduced and safer schedule, the majority of people are being pushed even more vaccines than ever
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She's an idiot, and she's dangerous.
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This chap puts what's been going on into perspective


Dr Peter Fletcher, former UK Chief Scientific Officer at the Department of Health said:-

"it is the steady accumulation of evidence, from a number of respected universities, teaching hospitals and laboratories around the world, that matters here. There's far too much to ignore. Yet government health authorities are, it seems, more than happy to do so."

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"the refusal by governments to evaluate the risks properly will make this one of the greatest scandals in medical history"

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"There are very powerful people in positions of great authority in Britain and elsewhere who have staked their reputations and careers on the safety of MMR and they are willing to do almost anything to protect themselves."

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"Clinical and scientific data is steadily accumulating that the live measles virus in MMR can cause brain, gut and immune system damage in a subset of vulnerable children,"
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The former CDC chief even admitted vaccines can trigger Autism in an televised interview

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