Ukraine "Anti-Terrorist Operation"

[CAHEK]

So people who are in Kiev were peaceful protestors and people who are are most in east Ukraine who are most Russian's they call them terrorists

"anti-terrorist operation" is under way in Ukraine's restive eastern Donetsk region, acting President Oleksandr Turchynov.

[wehateporn]

The real terrorists are now running Ukraine, that makes Ukraine a terrorist nation

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by CAHEK

So people who are in Kiev were peaceful protestors and people who are are most in east Ukraine who are most Russian's they call them terrorists

[wehateporn]

April 15th is a day of human sacrifice, they create events for this date

[wehateporn]

On April 15th...

1865 – Abraham Lincoln dies after being shot the previous evening by actor John Wilkes Booth.

1912 – The British passenger liner RMS Titanic sinks in the North Atlantic at 2:20 a.m., two hours and forty minutes after hitting an iceberg. Only 710 of 2,227 passengers and crew on board survive.

1986 – The United States launches Operation El Dorado Canyon, its bombing raids against Libyan targets in response to a bombing in West Germany that killed two U.S. servicemen.

1989 – Hillsborough disaster: A human crush occurs at Hillsborough Stadium, home of Sheffield Wednesday, in the FA Cup Semi-final, resulting in the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans.

2013 – Two bombs explode near the finish line at the Boston Marathon in Boston, Massachusetts, killing 3 people and injuring 264 others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_15

[pornmasta]

everything need to be clean for Hitler's birthday, just my 2 reichsmarks

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

everything need to be clean for Hitler's birthday, just my 2 reichsmarks

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

April 15th is a day of human sacrifice, they create events for this date

Originally Posted by wehateporn

On April 15th...

1865 ? Abraham Lincoln dies after being shot the previous evening by actor John Wilkes Booth.

1912 ? The British passenger liner RMS Titanic sinks in the North Atlantic at 2:20 a.m., two hours and forty minutes after hitting an iceberg. Only 710 of 2,227 passengers and crew on board survive.

1986 ? The United States launches Operation El Dorado Canyon, its bombing raids against Libyan targets in response to a bombing in West Germany that killed two U.S. servicemen.

1989 ? Hillsborough disaster: A human crush occurs at Hillsborough Stadium, home of Sheffield Wednesday, in the FA Cup Semi-final, resulting in the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans.

2013 ? Two bombs explode near the finish line at the Boston Marathon in Boston, Massachusetts, killing 3 people and injuring 264 others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_15

Wow. That's absolutely unbelievable. Unbelievable that you place insignificance in any of that.

Here, let's try that for another randomly selected date:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_12

30 BC ? Cleopatra VII Philopator, the last ruler of the Egyptian Ptolemaic dynasty, commits suicide, allegedly by means of an asp bite.

1914 ? World War I: the United Kingdom declares war on Austria-Hungary; the countries of the British Empire follow suit.

1950 ? Korean War: Bloody Gulch massacre?American POWs are massacred by North Korean Army.

1952 ? The Night of the Murdered Poets: 13 prominent Jewish intellectuals are murdered in Moscow, Russia, Soviet Union.

1953 ? The islands of Zakynthos and Kefalonia in Greece are severely damaged by an earthquake measuring 7.3 on the Richter scale.

1976 ? Between 1,000 and 3,500 Palestinians are killed in the Tel al-Zaatar massacre, one of the bloodiest events of the Lebanese Civil War

1985 ? Japan Airlines Flight 123 crashes into Osutaka ridge in Gunma Prefecture, Japan, killing 520, to become the worst single-plane air disaster.

2005 ? Sri Lanka's foreign minister, Lakshman Kadirgamar, is fatally shot by an LTTE sniper at his home.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Originally Posted by CAHEK

So people who are in Kiev were peaceful protestors and people who are are most in east Ukraine who are most Russian's they call them terrorists

If i'm not mistaken, the people in Kiev (who by the way came there from all over the country) wanted to just overthrow the corrupt government. They are now going to hold nation-wide elections.

But the separatist group of people in eastern Ukraine, well they just wanna straight up give away a huge chunk of territory to the Russians, which is simply unacceptable.

If they don't agree with something they should hold elections or referendum. Hell, just march on Kiev and overthrow the new government if enough people support them. The thing is, they are a tiny minority and the majority of eastern ukrainian people don't support them. Putin and his russian KGB are inciting revolts there on purpose.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

If i'm not mistaken, the people in Kiev (who by the way came there from all over the country) wanted to just overthrow the corrupt government. They are now going to hold nation-wide elections.

But the separatist group of people in eastern Ukraine, well they just wanna straight up give away a huge chunk of territory to the Russians, which is simply unacceptable.

If they don't agree with something they should hold elections or referendum. Hell, just march on Kiev and overthrow the new government if enough people support them. The thing is, they are a tiny minority and the majority of eastern ukrainian people don't support them. Putin and his russian KGB are inciting revolts there on purpose.

did the others do ???

Here is an interesting opinion piece :

I'm confused, can anyone help me?

I'm confused. A few weeks ago we were told in the West that people occupying government buildings in Ukraine was a very good thing. These people, we were told by our political leaders and elite media commentators, were 'pro-democracy protestors'.

The US government warned the Ukrainian authorities against using force against these 'pro-democracy protestors' even if, according to the pictures we saw, some of them were neo-Nazis who were throwing Molotov cocktails and other things at the police and smashing up statues and setting fire to buildings.

Now, just a few weeks later, we're told that people occupying government buildings in Ukraine are not 'pro-democracy protestors' but 'terrorists' or 'militants'.

Why was the occupation of government buildings in Ukraine a very good thing in January, but it is a very bad thing in April? Why was the use of force by the authorities against protestors completely unacceptable in January, but acceptable now? I repeat: I'm confused. Can anyone help me?

The anti-government protestors in Ukraine during the winter received visits from several prominent Western politicians, including US Senator John McCain, and Victoria Nuland, from the US State Department, who handed out cookies. But there have been very large anti-government protests in many Western European countries in recent weeks, which have received no such support, either from such figures or from elite Western media commentators. Nor have protestors received free cookies from officials at the US State Department.

Surely if they were so keen on anti-government street protests in Europe, and regarded them as the truest form of 'democracy', McCain and Nuland would also be showing solidarity with street protestors in Madrid, Rome, Athens and Paris? I'm confused. Can anyone help me?

A few weeks ago I saw an interview with the US Secretary of State John Kerry who said, ?You just don't invade another country on phony pretexts in order to assert your interests.? But I seem to recall the US doing just that on more than one occasion in the past 20 years or so.

Have I misremembered the 'Iraq has WMDs claim'? Was I dreaming back in 2002 and early 2003 when politicians and neocon pundits came on TV every day to tell us plebs that we had to go to war with Iraq because of the threat posed by Saddam's deadly arsenal? Why is having a democratic vote in Crimea on whether to rejoin Russia deemed worse than the brutal, murderous invasion of Iraq ? an invasion which has led to the deaths of up to 1 million people? I'm confused. Can anyone help me?

We were also told by very serious-looking Western politicians and media 'experts' that the Crimea referendum wasn't valid because it was held under ?military occupation.? But I've just been watching coverage of elections in Afghanistan, held under military occupation, which have been hailed by leading western figures, such as NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen as a ?historic moment for Afghanistan? and a great success for ?democracy.? Why is the Crimean vote dismissed, but the Afghanistan vote celebrated? I'm confused. Can anyone help me?

Syria too is rather baffling. We were and are told that radical Islamic terror groups pose the greatest threat to our peace, security and our 'way of life' in the West. That Al-Qaeda and other such groups need to be destroyed: that we needed to have a relentless 'War on Terror' against them. Yet in Syria, our leaders have been siding with such radical groups in their war against a secular government which respects the rights of religious minorities, including Christians.

When the bombs of Al-Qaeda or their affiliates go off in Syria and innocent people are killed there is no condemnation from our leaders: their only condemnation has been of the secular Syrian government which is fighting radical Islamists and which our leaders and elite media commentators are desperate to have toppled. I'm confused. Can anyone help me?

Then there's gay rights. We are told that Russia is a very bad and backward country because it has passed a law against promoting homosexuality to minors. Yet our leaders who boycotted the Winter Olympics in Sochi because of this law visit Gulf states where homosexuals can be imprisoned or even executed, and warmly embrace the rulers there, making no mention of the issue of gay rights.

Surely the imprisonment or execution of gay people is far worse than a law which forbids promotion of homosexuality to minors? Why, if they are genuinely concerned about gay rights, do our leaders attack Russia and not countries that imprison or execute gay people? I'm confused. Can anyone help me?

We are told in lots of newspaper articles that the Hungarian ultra-nationalist party Jobbik is very bad and that its rise is a cause of great concern, even though it is not even in the government, or likely to be. But neo-Nazis and ultra-nationalists do hold positions in the new government of Ukraine, which our leaders in the West enthusiastically support and neo-Nazis and the far-right played a key role in the overthrow of Ukraine's democratically elected government in February, a ?revolution? cheered on by the West. Why are ultra-nationalists and far-right groups unacceptable in Hungary but very acceptable in Ukraine? I'm confused. Can anyone help me?

We are told that Russia is an aggressive, imperialist power and that NATO's concerns are about opposing the Russian ?threat?. But I looked at the map the other day and while I could see lots of countries close to (and bordering) Russia that were members of NATO, the US-led military alliance whose members have bombed and attacked many countries in the last 15 years, I could not see any countries close to America that were part of a Russian-military alliance, or any Russian military bases or missiles situated in foreign countries bordering or close to the US. Yet Russia, we are told, is the ?aggressive one?. I'm confused. Can anyone help me?

Neil Clark is a journalist, writer and broadcaster. His award winning blog can be found at www.neilclark66.blogspot.com. Follow him on Twitter

Really hard to follow the american way on these issues ... rebels ... insurgents ... terrorists... freedom fighters ... Al-Quaeda bad ... Al-Quaeda good ....

Probably all BS .... based only on the interest not of the american people .. but of the american 1 %

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

On April 15th...

1865 ? Abraham Lincoln dies after being shot the previous evening by actor John Wilkes Booth.

1912 ? The British passenger liner RMS Titanic sinks in the North Atlantic at 2:20 a.m., two hours and forty minutes after hitting an iceberg. Only 710 of 2,227 passengers and crew on board survive.

1986 ? The United States launches Operation El Dorado Canyon, its bombing raids against Libyan targets in response to a bombing in West Germany that killed two U.S. servicemen.

1989 ? Hillsborough disaster: A human crush occurs at Hillsborough Stadium, home of Sheffield Wednesday, in the FA Cup Semi-final, resulting in the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans.

2013 ? Two bombs explode near the finish line at the Boston Marathon in Boston, Massachusetts, killing 3 people and injuring 264 others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_15

It's not all doom and gloom.

Today is Jackie Robinson Day. All the baseball players are wearing #42 in his honor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Robinson_Day

[crockett]

Originally Posted by CAHEK

So people who are in Kiev were peaceful protestors and people who are are most in east Ukraine who are most Russian's they call them terrorists

"anti-terrorist operation" is under way in Ukraine's restive eastern Donetsk region, acting President Oleksandr Turchynov.

Humm peaceful Russian protestors with AK100's peacefully took over many of Ukraine's govt buildings carrying flowers and candy for the kids.. Seriously, your Russian propaganda is pretty bad. Do you guys really think anyone outside of Russia believes this non sense?

I hate to break it to you, but the rest of the world pretty much has the view of Russia is the bad guys in this ordeal. You guys can post over and over what ever flag waving crap you like, but everyone sees through it and you are convincing no one with this BS. Of course go right ahead and wave your little red flags chanting heil Putin..

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

If i'm not mistaken, the people in Kiev (who by the way came there from all over the country) wanted to just overthrow the corrupt government. They are now going to hold nation-wide elections.

1) They have elected that corrupted government, but nobody else. BTW there were 5 presidents/governments during the Ukrainian independence and ALL (literally 100%) of them were corrupted. Even the one, which came to power after the very first Maydan. Carma is a bitch, ah?
2) In the next year they were able to change the government by means of democratic elections without blood and revolution.
3) A revolution is uncontrollable process. If you start it, be ready for a civilian war.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by crockett

Humm peaceful Russian protestors with AK100's peacefully took over many of Ukraine's govt buildings carrying flowers and candy for the kids..

Russian? Do you mean Russian citizens? Have you seen their id's? No? Why don't you shut the fuck up already?

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

If i'm not mistaken, the people in Kiev (who by the way came there from all over the country) wanted to just overthrow the corrupt government. They are now going to hold nation-wide elections.

But the separatist group of people in eastern Ukraine, well they just wanna straight up give away a huge chunk of territory to the Russians, which is simply unacceptable.

If they don't agree with something they should hold elections or referendum. Hell, just march on Kiev and overthrow the new government if enough people support them. The thing is, they are a tiny minority and the majority of eastern ukrainian people don't support them. Putin and his russian KGB are inciting revolts there on purpose.

At least you said "If i'm not mistaken" but you are:

1.People in Kiev were vandalizing city for months and were armed with firearms and took government buildings and attacked police with deadly force (guns, snipers,molotovs)

2. Separatist group is asking for a referendum about federalisation. I guess that if a lie is repeated enough times, then it will become true.

3. Months of violence and destruction in Kiev,and yet, police were unarmed until last few days and Janukovich never called army ,airplanes,helicopters...all that what new nazi government is doing in just matter of days, but yet, somehow, Janukovic was bad guy.

4. Speaking about corruption is really stupid if you have Timoshenko on side of new, non corrupted authorities. It is not about any government,it is about mentality of nation.

5. There is no revolution that is spontaneous,on so large scale. Of course Russians have own influence on people in eastern Ukraine, in the same way "west" have it Kiev.

Regarding statement that it is unacceptable to take chunk of territores , why then it was acceptable in Yugoslavia, and when Army did the same,it was agression and terror?

Also,what abut Kosovo? It was much,much worse situation with years of muslim terrorism (kidnapping, ambushes,diversions..), but when army responded, it was unacceptable and Yugoslavia was attacked by NATO (avoiding UN what was the moment when complete international law system went down,over night)


Simplfied: looking for any moral explanation ( or by law) after all this is impossible mission for anyone with average intelligence.

[AtlantisCash]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The real terrorists are now running Ukraine, that makes Ukraine a terrorist nation

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[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by crockett

Humm peaceful Russian protestors with AK100's peacefully took over many of Ukraine's govt buildings carrying flowers and candy for the kids.. Seriously, your Russian propaganda is pretty bad. Do you guys really think anyone outside of Russia believes this non sense?

I hate to break it to you, but the rest of the world pretty much has the view of Russia is the bad guys in this ordeal. You guys can post over and over what ever flag waving crap you like, but everyone sees through it and you are convincing no one with this BS. Of course go right ahead and wave your little red flags chanting heil Putin..

Maybe you have problem with perception of size and complexity of the world.A little enlightenment:

http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/india...ts-in-ukraine/

http://en.itar-tass.com/opinions/1698

[AtlantisCash]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

At least you said "If i'm not mistaken" but you are:

1.People in Kiev were vandalizing city for months and were armed with firearms and took government buildings and attacked police with deadly force (guns, snipers,molotovs)

2. Separatist group is asking for a referendum about federalisation. I guess that if a lie is repeated enough times, then it will become true.

3. Months of violence and destruction in Kiev,and yet, police were unarmed until last few days and Janukovich never called army ,airplanes,helicopters...all that what new nazi government is doing in just matter of days, but yet, somehow, Janukovic was bad guy.

4. Speaking about corruption is really stupid if you have Timoshenko on side of new, non corrupted authorities. It is not about any government,it is about mentality of nation.

5. There is no revolution that is spontaneous,on so large scale. Of course Russians have own influence on people in eastern Ukraine, in the same way "west" have it Kiev.

Regarding statement that it is unacceptable to take chunk of territores , why then it was acceptable in Yugoslavia, and when Army did the same,it was agression and terror?

Also,what abut Kosovo? It was much,much worse situation with years of muslim terrorism (kidnapping, ambushes,diversions..), but when army responded, it was unacceptable and Yugoslavia was attacked by NATO (avoiding UN what was the moment when complete international law system went down,over night)


Simplfied: looking for any moral explanation ( or by law) after all this is impossible mission for anyone with average intelligence.

im totally agreed except yugoslavia part if you meant Bosnia, some deadly war crimes happend there.

[AtlantisCash]

Originally Posted by crockett

Humm peaceful Russian protestors with AK100's peacefully took over many of Ukraine's govt buildings carrying flowers and candy for the kids.. Seriously, your Russian propaganda is pretty bad. Do you guys really think anyone outside of Russia believes this non sense?

I hate to break it to you, but the rest of the world pretty much has the view of Russia is the bad guys in this ordeal. You guys can post over and over what ever flag waving crap you like, but everyone sees through it and you are convincing no one with this BS. Of course go right ahead and wave your little red flags chanting heil Putin..

don't stuck watching fox news this mutch, it has side effects like this, otherwise you will be chanting your so called "demorcracy" mumbling while alqaida terrorist in Syria giving their last bj to Syrian army before their flesh thrown out of Turkey border and we piss on them

and same thing applies for the Russian troups waiting in Crimea border also, these nazi cock suckers may face happy ending like this as well

[seeandsee]

It's propaganda of nato

[wehateporn]

I see they carried out human sacrifice

At least 295 missing as ferry sinks off the coast of South Korea

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ff-south-korea

Originally Posted by wehateporn

On April 15th...

1865 ? Abraham Lincoln dies after being shot the previous evening by actor John Wilkes Booth.

1912 ? The British passenger liner RMS Titanic sinks in the North Atlantic at 2:20 a.m., two hours and forty minutes after hitting an iceberg. Only 710 of 2,227 passengers and crew on board survive.

1986 ? The United States launches Operation El Dorado Canyon, its bombing raids against Libyan targets in response to a bombing in West Germany that killed two U.S. servicemen.

1989 ? Hillsborough disaster: A human crush occurs at Hillsborough Stadium, home of Sheffield Wednesday, in the FA Cup Semi-final, resulting in the deaths of 96 Liverpool fans.

2013 ? Two bombs explode near the finish line at the Boston Marathon in Boston, Massachusetts, killing 3 people and injuring 264 others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_15

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I see they carried out human sacrifice

At least 295 missing as ferry sinks off the coast of South Korea

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ff-south-korea

So nothing ever happens by accident in your fantasy world? Everything is predetermined and planned? So if you go jump off of a bridge today it's because somebody planned it? They had to get rid of you because you know too much so they beamed messages into your head telling you to do it?

You need a better tinfoil hat.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Russian? Do you mean Russian citizens? Have you seen their id's? No? Why don't you shut the fuck up already?

Why is it you hate the truth so much? The only place AK100's come from is the Russian military and that's what the "soldiers" are carrying whom took over all the govt buildings. No one is fooled by your Russian propaganda, everyone is perfectly aware that Russia is encouraging and backing these so called separatist protests.

Just keep on waving your little red flag chatting "Heil Putler"', because the only group acting like Nazis is the Russians.