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			 Who amongst you subscribe to your Adobe products using Adobe subscriptions or Creative Cloud which gives you access to all products ? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Do you think it's a good value proposition compared to buying products outright ?  | 
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		 well whats the price? does it depends on your choice of programs? or is one flat fee for everything? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 In Australia it's 62 per month, in the US it's $49 per month even though the Aussie dollar is worth more, go figure. It's pretty much a subscription plan for Adobe CS Suite plus some extras. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Either nobody has thoughts about this, or most people have other "licensing" arrangements for Adobe CS ? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 I've purchased the Master Collection in the past. This to me is a better option. 
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		 I've had it since May, I pay $29 a month and got all of CS6 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I just did, on a new system, and like it so far. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 With that being said - I love Adobe Muse for whipping up quick landing pages for A/B testing. It's the only thing I use it for...but that alone made it worth the download. Not sure if I would purchase it outside of the subscription though. 
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		 Considering CS full license is around $3k and the upgrades are north of $600 in local currency, $700 a year to stay fully up to date doesn't seem too bad. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Except that Adobe are gouging the Australian market badly. $49.95 per month in the USA yet $64.95 per month here and our dollar is worth more than the US dollar. Go figure.  | 
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		 At a certain point it will be too much. I'm paying $20 a month for my wife's Kindle magazines, and another $19 a month for a site my kid likes. Toss in a few monthly services I use, and we are already up past $100. M$ is working on a new office platform that will be cloud based, which they'll charge for on a monthly basis.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			If Facebook and YouTube start charging, I'll be fucked. 
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		 Software and software subscription here is 100% tax deductible, so providing you use it for business the cost isn't really an issue unless you're unprofitable. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I think it's a good deal for CS compared to buying the box, it's just the price gouging of Australian customers I think sucks.  | 
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		 I just subscribed to Adobe CC a few months ago, and yes . . . it's worth the money. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 And the other half don't care because MUSE generates shitty code 
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		 £46.88 (including VAT)/ month on an annual commit. £70.32 (including VAT)/month with option to cancel at any time. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I'm switching over when I get my new pc next month. cs3 is the last suite I got and it's outdated. I need to step up to the cloud. I did a trial on illustrator because I was given something to work with that cs3 couldn't open, it's pretty slick 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 You know you can take a class somewhere and then use the student discount. 29 a month 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 You can't buy them outright as far as I'm aware. If you want new, up to date Adobe products...they're only available through the Cloud. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
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		 It's a really fair price, and if you're using it daily, then it's more than worth it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Having bought premiere 1, 2, etc up to CS3 have lived with the bugs etc...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I've been a subscriber for over a year, I only use a few of the programs in the suite but I still find it worth every penny to me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Steve Jobs said Flash was dead. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Fuck paying for it. I downloaded a cracked version from a file locker. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I've been using it for just over a year.  I love that you get 2 licenses and are able to use it on different platforms.  I'm running on on my desktop PC and another n my Macbook Pro. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 we've been using it for awhile now. It's an awesome pricing scheme that makes LEGIT access affordable for anyone. No excuse to pirate... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Weird that this thread got bumped. I subscribed recently, and am enjoying my subscription. I was worried at first that I couldn't use it if I wasn't connected to the Internet (at the beach, traveling, etc), but that turned out not to be the case. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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	Anyone else having performance issues with cs6 on large jpg images (6000+ pixels long-side)? I swear just highlighting and sampling area to use with healing brushes takes a long assed time and misses the location often. Kinda feels like GUI is not actually showing whats being done to it properly until its applied..  | 
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	When I started editing video, I picked up a cheap video editor at Fry's for $60 and it sucked! Then I joined the CC a few months ago... I pay $49 per month and have everything I want! It's brilliant if you ask me. For those of us who refuse to use pirated software and are actually paying for the upgrades, Creative Cloud is actually a money saver.. And it's way better to budget 50 a month then to dish out 600 at once for an upgrade just to get one new fucking healing brush... ![]()  | 
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