Los Angeles Man Sentenced To Year In Jail Under ?Revenge Porn? Law

[InfoGuy]

Man Sentenced To Year In Jail Under ?Revenge Porn? Law

A man who posted a topless photo of his ex-girlfriend on her employer?s Facebook page has been sentenced to a year in jail under the state?s revenge porn law, Los Angeles City Attorney Mike Feuer said Monday.

A year sentence for posting a topless photo seems harsh. Drug dealers get lighter sentences. How many years would he have got for uploading a hardcore video to a tube?

[Seth Manson]

He'll probably be out in a few days.

[seeandsee]

A year in jail?

omg

[Jel]

finally the courts give a suitable sentence

[mineistaken]

topless = porn?

[pornguy]

Nothing like keeping those prison bed full.

Sadly the guy that walks in that door wont be the same as the one that walks out.

[michael.kickass]

That's crazy.

[Vendzilla]

Welcome to the most liberal state in the union

[fuzebox]

You guys realize that the "revenge porn" laws are when people upload photos of other people against their will for malicious purposes right? And has nothing to do with actual porn production?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

You guys realize that the "revenge porn" laws are when people upload photos of other people against their will for malicious purposes right? And has nothing to do with actual porn production?

Of course. My point was why does it have porn in its name? I am sure they could have come up with more accurate name for that.

[InfoGuy]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

You guys realize that the "revenge porn" laws are when people upload photos of other people against their will for malicious purposes right? And has nothing to do with actual porn production?

That's obvious to industry insiders, but perhaps not to the general public who sit on juries and decide on the fate of the accused.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

Man Sentenced To Year In Jail Under ?Revenge Porn? Law



A year sentence for posting a topless photo seems harsh. Drug dealers get lighter sentences. How many years would he have got for uploading a hardcore video to a tube?

Well how many people did the drug dealer piss off by selling them exactly what they wanted?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

topless = porn?

OK, I finally figured it out.
You're tied to the floor and you have never been let out right?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

That's obvious to industry insiders, but perhaps not to the general public who sit on juries and decide on the fate of the accused.

Isn't that the case for every law there is and why everybody, including lawyers, needs a lawyer?

[Jel]

I'm guessing the OP has no problems betraying a former friend's trust. If you can't see why someone would, and should, get a year in jail for posting intimate pictures to a former partner's employer's web page, and the intent behind posting those pics, regardless of whether a pornographer thinks it's "only" topless pics, then what can anyone say.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by InfoGuy

A year sentence for posting a topless photo seems harsh. Drug dealers get lighter sentences. How many years would he have got for uploading a hardcore video to a tube?

Probably something equal what you get in North Korea for not using Kim's latest hairstyle.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jel

I'm guessing the OP has no problems betraying a former friend's trust. If you can't see why someone would, and should, get a year in jail for posting intimate pictures to a former partner's employer's web page, and the intent behind posting those pics, regardless of whether a pornographer thinks it's "only" topless pics, then what can anyone say.

A year in jail for that? Using some common western view to this, you won't get sentence like that for posting such pic. Although I don't know what is US then, but that is how it is. Sentences like that aren't given in countries those value freedom.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

OK, I finally figured it out.
You're tied to the floor and you have never been let out right?

post number 10

[Jel]

Originally Posted by aka123

A year in jail for that? Using some common western view to this, you won't get sentence like that for posting such pic. Although I don't know what is US then, but that is how it is.

Think about the intent behind posting the pic(s) rather than the pic(s) themselves. To dismiss someone's possible hurt/shame/embarrassment based on *your* sense of what bothers you and what doesn't, or what you class as porn or not, and so on and so on, isn't the way to look at it.

The guy obviously wanted to hurt this woman, and instead of doing it physically chose to do it mentally. And as everyone knows, physical injuries don't even come close to emotional ones. What if he hit her? beat her up? deserving of a year in jail for that? Again, this isn't about how *you* would be impacted if someone did this to you. How would you feel if it was your mother, your daughter, and knew how much it would affect her, if she were that way?

To brush this off as something about nothing because it's 'just' a titty pic is to ignore a wise piece of advice that has been around a while:

Never belittle anyone's experience - they had it.

Apply that to both 'good' and 'bad' experiences, and maybe you'll understand why the guy got a year in jail. Swap her pics for whatever *your* personal interpretation of what would cause you humiliation, embarrassment, betrayal, etc. and see how you'd feel if some guy who wasn't affected the same way by your particular personal emotions manifest came along and said "a year, for that?"

[Jel]

Originally Posted by aka123

Sentences like that aren't given in countries those value freedom.

freedom to not have someone do such a shitty thing to another human you mean?

fuck him, I hope he learns his lesson

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jel

Think about the intent behind posting the pic(s) rather than the pic(s) themselves. To dismiss someone's possible hurt/shame/embarrassment based on *your* sense of what bothers you and what doesn't, or what you class as porn or not, and so on and so on, isn't the way to look at it.

The guy obviously wanted to hurt this woman, and instead of doing it physically chose to do it mentally. And as everyone knows, physical injuries don't even come close to emotional ones. What if he hit her? beat her up? deserving of a year in jail for that? Again, this isn't about how *you* would be impacted if someone did this to you. How would you feel if it was your mother, your daughter, and knew how much it would affect her, if she were that way?

To brush this off as something about nothing because it's 'just' a titty pic is to ignore a wise piece of advice that has been around a while:

Never belittle anyone's experience - they had it.

Apply that to both 'good' and 'bad' experiences, and maybe you'll understand why the guy got a year in jail. Swap her pics for whatever *your* personal interpretation of what would cause you humiliation, embarrassment, betrayal, etc. and see how you'd feel if some guy who wasn't affected the same way by your particular personal emotions manifest came along and said "a year, for that?"

He did bad, but year in prison is not even close to what would be fair sentence. That humiliation etc. stuff is what Arabs and such keep in high value, and in west during some medieval times or something like that when someones "honour" was insulted, but that shit doesn't belong to modern western society.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by aka123

A year in jail for that? Using some common western view to this, you won't get sentence like that for posting such pic. Although I don't know what is US then, but that is how it is. Sentences like that aren't given in countries those value freedom.

In the US plenty of females have lost their jobs/careers/marriage because of a nude photo showing up somewhere, even if it's a really old pic.

In the US teachers get fired when nude photos show up and they are finished as a teacher for life.

He got what he deserved.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#s...red+nude+photo

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jel

freedom to not have someone do such a shitty thing to another human you mean?

fuck him, I hope he learns his lesson

No, I mean freedom per se, everyones.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

In the US plenty of females have lost their jobs/careers/marriage because of a nude photo showing up somewhere, even if it's a really old pic.

In the US teachers get fired when nude photos show up and they are finished as a teacher for life.

He got what he deserved.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#s...red+nude+photo

To me it seems that the problem is in the US, not in the dude photos. Again, in most western countries people won't lose their jobs because of some private dude pics. US and Vatican may be exceptions.

[PiracyPitbull]

Originally Posted by aka123

Sentences like that aren't given in countries those value freedom.

If a person values their freedom, they should also value other peoples freedoms, which is basically the freedom to not be the recipient of someone else douchebaggery.

Easy sentence to avoid tbh and i'd have no issues seeing more instances of its enforcement.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by PiracyPitbull

If a person values their freedom, they should also value other peoples freedoms, which is basically the freedom to not be the recipient of someone else douchebaggery.

Easy sentence to avoid tbh and i'd have no issues seeing more instances of its enforcement.

It's not about some person valuing freedom or not, it's about you and your society valuing freedom, or not. Seems that not.

In simple: the less you value freedom, the more easily you are willing to restrict it.

[WDF]

Originally Posted by aka123

It's not about some person valuing freedom or not, it's about you and your society valuing freedom, or not. Seems that not.

In simple: the less you value freedom, the more easily you are willing to restrict it.

You have it wrong.

There is a law on the books that prohibits this type of activity.

This individual broke that law and as punishment for his activity he is being lawfully denied his freedom by imprisonment for a term of 1 year.

Quite simple not hard to grasp.

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by PiracyPitbull

If a person values their freedom, they should also value other peoples freedoms, which is basically the freedom to not be the recipient of someone else douchebaggery.

Easy sentence to avoid tbh and i'd have no issues seeing more instances of its enforcement.

The fucking stupid thing I have ever heard. The whore posed for the photo and got what she deserved. Probably was afraid her father would find out what a slut she actually is!

Clearly the decline of the USA into a conservative POLICE STATE continues to march forward more and more with each passing day.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by aka123

It's not about some person valuing freedom or not, it's about you and your society valuing freedom, or not. Seems that not.

In simple: the less you value freedom, the more easily you are willing to restrict it.

you are fucking kidding lol

it's a restriction of freedom to not allow people to post private photos of ex-girlfriends on her employer's website/page/social media account in order to cause embarrassment, humiliation, and mental torment? it's restriction of freedom to not allow invasion of privacy?



how do you feel about people posting say, email logs, icq logs etc of what you class as private conversations, on say, gfy?

[Jel]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

The fucking stupid thing I have ever heard. The whore posed for the photo and got what she deserved. Probably was afraid her father would find out what a slut she actually is!

Clearly the decline of the USA into a conservative POLICE STATE continues to march forward more and more with each passing day.

you really do give AIDS and homophobia a good name

[aka123]

Originally Posted by WDF

You have it wrong.

There is a law on the books that prohibits this type of activity.

This individual broke that law and as punishment for his activity he is being lawfully denied his freedom by imprisonment for a term of 1 year.

Quite simple not hard to grasp.

I am not talking about the law. Or if we are talking about it, it could as well be that if you doubt Nazi-Germany's victory you will get sentence to concentration camp. Not that hard to grasp.

But I am not talking about the law, I am talking about valuing freedom.

[Xenophage]

Feminist is getting out of control.

Women act like whores and then cry when someone points it out.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by aka123

I am not talking about the law. Or if we are talking about it, it could as well be that if you doubt Nazi-Germany's victory you will get sentence to concentration camp. Not that hard to grasp.

But I am not talking about the law, I am talking about valuing freedom.

wtf? this HAS to be a language barrier thing...

So again, how would you feel about someone posting your private email correspondence, icq logs, or anything else you consider absolutely private and not to be shared? Is the other party allowed to do this lest you impede their right to freedom? Everyone has words, uses words, etc, so it wouldn't be a problem I'm guessing?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jel

you are fucking kidding lol

it's a restriction of freedom to not allow people to post private photos of ex-girlfriends on her employer's website/page/social media account in order to cause embarrassment, humiliation, and mental torment? it's restriction of freedom to not allow invasion of privacy?



how do you feel about people posting say, email logs, icq logs etc of what you class as private conversations, on say, gfy?

No, the sentence is restriction of freedom, as we are talking about prison sentence. Of course laws restrict freedom per se, but now the focus is in the sentences those restrict freedom.

And this is not about that I would be OK about posting some private nude photos, etc. And that has been illegal in my country for long, long time. In fact, if I would have even promoted some ex. gf stuff, I might get into trouble, although not 1 year in the prison kind of trouble, but fines and such. But I haven't done so, just for moral reasons.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Xenophage

Feminist is getting out of control.

Women act like whores and then cry when someone points it out.

you agree with a raging homo, who'd have thought

[Jel]

Originally Posted by aka123

No, the sentence is restriction of freedom, as we are talking about prison sentence. Of course laws restrict freedom per se, but now the focus is in the sentences those restrict freedom.

And this is not about that I would be OK about posting some private nude photos, etc. And that has been illegal in my country for long, long time. In fact, if I would have even promoted some ex. gf stuff, I might get into trouble, although not 1 year in the prison kind of trouble, but fines and such. But I haven't done so, just for moral reasons.

my head just exploded, you win - well played

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Jel

I'm guessing the OP has no problems betraying a former friend's trust. If you can't see why someone would, and should, get a year in jail for posting intimate pictures to a former partner's employer's web page, and the intent behind posting those pics, regardless of whether a pornographer thinks it's "only" topless pics, then what can anyone say.

Exactly, plus she had a restraining order on him at the time. Pure malicious harassment with the intent to harm someone. Fuck him.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jel

wtf? this HAS to be a language barrier thing...

So again, how would you feel about someone posting your private email correspondence, icq logs, or anything else you consider absolutely private and not to be shared? Is the other party allowed to do this lest you impede their right to freedom? Everyone has words, uses words, etc, so it wouldn't be a problem I'm guessing?

No, this is not language barrier thing, this is thinking type of barrier. As I value freedom, but you apparently don't.

Me feeling bad for something doesn't make it OK to give whatever punishments, or if it does, why not death sentence for all crimes (maybe I feel really bad)? And we have judges to have objective view, that is why I am not judging my own cases. I don't think that your system, however shitty it is, is that much different.

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

You guys realize that the "revenge porn" laws are when people upload photos of other people against their will for malicious purposes right? And has nothing to do with actual porn production?

[Jel]

Originally Posted by aka123

No, this is not language barrier thing, this is thinking type of barrier. As I value freedom, but you apparently don't.

Me feeling bad for something doesn't make it OK to give whatever punishments, or if it does, why not death sentence for all crimes (maybe I feel really bad)? And we have judges to have objective view, that is why I am not judging my own cases. I don't think that your system, however shitty it is, is that much different.

I see what you are saying now and it's more in line with what I've previously got from your posts, and thinking (which I do find very interesting mostly).

The thing is, the loss of freedom is exactly what you need as a further level of punishment, otherwise the wealthy would do what they like, knowing they'd only have to pay an easily affordable fine. You also assume every person has money to pay a fine in the first place.

There'll never be an ideal solution that caters to every circumstance, so you have to weigh that in. Some problems with monetary fines only:

do they have money to begin with?
do they have so much that they don't give a fuck (a look at most politicians will give the answer to that one)?
where do you disburse fines so that it's 'fair' to everyone?
what if you receive a fine and refuse to pay?
do you then breach further 'freedoms' by taking it from the source?
what if the source is offshore?
do you then create a world police/fines collection agency?
etc
etc
etc

utopia is a great place inside the imagination, unfortunately that's the only place it ever exists, and is different in every mind that imagines it.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jel

I see what you are saying now and it's more in line with what I've previously got from your posts, and thinking (which I do find very interesting mostly).

The thing is, the loss of freedom is exactly what you need as a further level of punishment, otherwise the wealthy would do what they like, knowing they'd only have to pay an easily affordable fine. You also assume every person has money to pay a fine in the first place.

There'll never be an ideal solution that caters to every circumstance, so you have to weigh that in. Some problems with monetary fines only:

do they have money to begin with?
do they have so much that they don't give a fuck (a look at most politicians will give the answer to that one)?
where do you disburse fines so that it's 'fair' to everyone?
what if you receive a fine and refuse to pay?
do you then breach further 'freedoms' by taking it from the source?
what if the source is offshore?
do you then create a world police/fines collection agency?
etc
etc
etc

utopia is a great place inside the imagination, unfortunately that's the only place it ever exists, and is different in every mind that imagines it.

For starters, I think that my country has some record for the biggest fine ever, or something like that, as those are proportional to your income without uplimit. So, it kinda depends how it is arranged.

Fines are not the only solution, there all kind of other penalties as condional punishment, and various lengths of imprisonment. You know, it doesn't have to be a year. It can be anything between 1 day and lifetime. Penalties are discussion of it's own, and I am not going to get into that, I am just saying that year for that crime what we are talking about, is too much. At least regarding to my sense of justice.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by aka123

To me it seems that the problem is in the US, not in the dude photos. Again, in most western countries people won't lose their jobs because of some private dude pics. US and Vatican may be exceptions.

Laws here need to be realistic to what our society is.
We can't just make them up based on your country.

Bottom line : He didn't have a model release.

People don't want to accept the "strict rules" of copyright and publishing rights; but if
he followed the strict rules then he wouldn't have posted the pic.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by aka123

It can be anything between 1 day and lifetime.

It was.

..

[aka123]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Laws here need to be realistic to what our society is.
We can't just make them up based on your country.

Bottom line : He didn't have a model release.

People don't want to accept the "strict rules" of copyright and publishing rights; but if
he followed the strict rules then he wouldn't have posted the pic.

You can change your society, usually laws are part of it (change). You make it to what you want.

Also, I didn't talk about just my country, I talked about western countries. You can go tad north to Canada and they have more humane punishments even though it's the same fucking continent, and it's not that far from you. Same is for us, we are the local "Canada" and tad east is.. well.. check from the map.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jel

It was.

..

One year.

[Jel]

you also haven't answered how you'd feel if private conversations between you and someone else, with your private thoughts, were posted for everyone to see, with the express purpose of hurting you.

Or from another angle - should your government be allowed to read all your private conversations? listen to all your private phone calls? then post them where they think it will cause you maximum distress, even though you know that in that moment, you have done nothing wrong whatsoever?

Personal privacy is sacrosanct, and 1 year isn't too harsh at all given what his intent behind the crime was (in fact the intent is everything, imo, regardless of what method he felt would achieve that intent the best way). In fact I'd say that's about right. Sentenced to 1 year, get out in 6 - 8 months, less than 1/100th of a person's life using 75 years of age as an average in the US.

[bhutocracy]

She had a restraining order out on him and he tried really hard to get her fired. What a pathetic piece of shit. I hope he gets beaten in prison like the little bitch that he is.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by aka123

One year.

that falls within 1 day and a lifetime, in my schooling?

[bhutocracy]

Originally Posted by aka123

Sentences like that aren't given in countries those value freedom.

If your country wouldn't jail some psycho with a restraining order out on him stalking and plastering your employer's sites with information trying to get you fired then you live in a retarded shitty country.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jel

you also haven't answered how you'd feel if private conversations between you and someone else, with your private thoughts, were posted for everyone to see, with the express purpose of hurting you..

Sad.

So lets have some impalement as a punishment.