If this is SERIOUSLY Donny's mom then this is SERIOUSLY fucked up.

She should take a lesson from celebs who get themselves into a PR crises: shut the fuck up and let it blow over because anything you say will only make it worse.

Merry Christmas.

It's iimportant to remember that Donny is not a victim and maintain perspective. His predicament is not the first time for him. It is the result of his choices, his actions and behavior. If his family and friends are affected by it, that is something they need to adress with him. Attempting to paint him as the victim is to ignore the fact that numerous girls are complaining of sexual abuse and Donny himself unwisely gave an interview confirming it at least to some degree.

Donny is a victim? No. Donny is a narcissist who shrewdly announced his plans to lie his way out of his failing adult business and to manipulate others into paying him speaking fees for him to tell those same lies. He posted many videos online of what can only be described as a troubling interaction between himself and underage girls....giggling and acting like a little girl himself while half naked and letting them touch him. It should come as no shocker that for the SECOND times, underage girls have came forward. Only a truly sick person would have put themself in that position AGAIN after the first time.

I would feel sympathy for the "mom" had she shown any remorse or sympathy for the girls. The fact that she doesn't or can't, suggests she is equally sick. Her plea wasn't for everyone and any reasonable person would at least feign some concern for the alleged cictims as that would be the appropriate thing to do.

None of you live in our house! Donny loved those girls and we were helping them by providing a safe living space and food and other necessities. The girl's rotten mother is the one behind all of this. You will see!!

I can tell that not everybody here is a bad apple. Thank you for those of you who remain decent.

Even while in jail God is using Donny. He is reaching people who normally would not be reached through traditional methods. God has a plan and as painful as this ordeal is for us we have no choice but to continue to place our faith in God.

If you are willing please say a prayer for Donny.

God is using Donny to fuck kids. Interesting. You must be catholic

11 years and you kept the password written down for a porn forum. seems legit, you must really be donny's mom. funny posts though, livened up my xmas eve, so whoever you are, good job :)

And it's just a crazy coincidence that at the same time Donny is providing shelter and comfort to random teenage girls in his home that he makes a new friend who also happens to have a teenaged girl living in his home and of all the men he knows, he chooses Donny to have sex with this girl so he can get off watching? Wouldn't a Christian man known in the community to be a vigilant protector of young women be the last man you'd ask to do that? Any normal person would have to think the welfare of the child would come first with a man like Donny and that Donny would do anything to protect her including making a complaint to the police and child services. So it would seem pretty reasonable to assume that the creepy sheriff guy believed or knew Donny would be interested in his creepy offer.

Did the girls rotten mother force innocent Donny to wear women's eyeliner, eyeshadow and lipstick too?

Maybe she uses the same password everywhere.
Maybe pass recovery option.

Just stating possibilities.

Would be very surprising if someone created this fake nick in 2003 though.

I had a friend help me reset the password because i never rote it down. Donny asked me to post here a long time ago to show that his family accepted and was helping with his business. I helped with accounting but I was never comfortable posting here and I'm still not.I do not know what else to do because it's Christmas eve and I've lost our home and my family so I cry then I come back here hoping to see a friend or two of his then I cry some more.

I suppose I should just leave but when I was visiting Donny yesterday he asked me to look here and see what was going on. He's writing a letter and asked if I would post it here for you all to read. I'm visiting him again tomorrow and will bring the letter home with me to share here.

Once again, either this is a troll or his mother is just as sick as he is. No mother, no sane person would attempt to defend him without even acknowledging the girls and the very very serious nature of the allegations. And the pity play ... "I cry and cry" (using pity as a tool to manipulate and garner sympathy) may be true but it is suggestive of someone sharing Donnys mental issues as it is the hallmark trait of any manipulator. Seeking pity. Why? Because it triggers the exact emotions you felt when you read it.

Poor me
Poor him
Victims = irrelevant
God plan = he's not culpable for his actions

As with all of Donnys behavior this is a very basic red flag that should be telling any normal person that something is not right with this poster.

And Donny again needs to speak out, which would obviously go against the advice of any first year law school student or even a ducking wallmart greeter for that matter. Why? Because a serial manipulator can't stand one thing about all others... not controlling or influencing how others see/percieve him.

I don't know who raised you but any normal mother would defend her son when he is the victim! Teenage girls making false accusations are not victims they are criminals!!

Did you live in our home? NO! So you have no idea what you are talking about!

Is anything EVER right with religious nutjobs? :winkwink:

I'm pretty convinced this is his mother - i'd say 65% chance this is his mother and not a creative troll.

She certainly hasn't broke character yet or said anything that seem inconsistent with that fact.

We all know Donny is a liar. Donny uses people. Donny manipulates people. Donny is a narcisstic personality. We all also know this is not the first time he's been accused and that he himself has admitting to placing himself in this position to a certain extent by his own words. You have no proof ofhis innocence. You simply need to believe he is. Agains we have a lot of lying little girls and a sick person once again in the center. Shocking coincidence.

Normal mothers don't turn a blind eye to their children's bad behaviour, they seek to understand it, not excuse it, and then help or get help for their child if she's concerned enough. I agree it's normal for a mother to stand by their children when they are in trouble, that's different than believing in your child's infallibility to do bad things.

When Donny was a child and you caught him red handed with his hand in the cookie jar, when he'd fabricate a lie like 'There's a homeless man I saw on my way home from school and I was just taking these cookies to give to him because he's hungry and Jesus would want me to help him' you'd buy it hook line and sinker and be so proud of your little boy with the heart of gold.

dead giveaway #2: sitting here posting all these replies

dead giveaway #3: coming back to post a fucking letter from 'donny'? l o l, puh-lease...

Not sure if this is all bullshit or not but....

A couple days ago my curiosity got the best of me so I unblocked Donny on Facebook and read over his page. His mother, who's name matches this person's, has been posting notes and messages from Donny. To think that he would actually have her post something here doesn't seem that far out of reach to me especially when you consider all the things that have been posted about his "personality type."

This person has also mentioned a few details about his living situation that I know to be true. It's either really his mother or somebody who has a lot of time on their hands and has done some homework. :2 cents:

There is no god, everyone is responsible for his own actions

(And i resent being called creepy)

I don't suppose anyone thought to forward the link or a screenshot to the sheriff's office before it was removed? Or would that just be overkill at this point? Could removing it just have been a lame attempt to cover some of Donny's tracks and further incriminating evidence, or is that irrelevant by now? Just a thought.

The sad sickness that is Donny (and apparently his mother) will, of course, find its doom one way or another. Reading the reactions to his story, it is nice to see that, pornographers or not, there are a great many highly principled people here; moralists disguised as libertines. I know I sleep well, and I wish you a beautiful Christmas.

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders
Narcissistic personality disorder

Symptoms of this disorder, as defined by the DSM-IV-TR, include:

• Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without superior accomplishments
• Expects constant attention, admiration and positive reinforcement from others
• Envies others and believes others envy him/her
• Is preoccupied with thoughts and fantasies of great success, enormous attractiveness, power, intelligence
• Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others
• Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior
• Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic
• Other symptoms in addition to the ones defined by DSM-IV-TR include: Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends, has trouble keeping healthy relationships with others, easily hurt or rejected, appears unemotional, and exaggerating special achievements and talents, setting unrealistic goals for himself/herself.

Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by an over-inflated sense of self-importance, as well as dramatic, emotional behavior that is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.

In addition to these symptoms, the person may display arrogance, show superiority, and seek power. The symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder can be similar to the traits of individuals with strong self-esteem and confidence; differentiation occurs when the underlying psychological structures of these traits are considered pathological. Narcissists have such an elevated sense of self-worth that they value themselves as inherently better than others, when in reality they have a fragile self-esteem, cannot handle criticism, and often try to compensate for this inner fragility by belittling or disparaging others in an attempt to validate their own self-worth. Comments and criticisms about others are vicious from sufferers of NPD, in an attempt to boost their own poor self-esteem.

Another narcissist symptom is a lack of empathy. They are unable to relate, understand, and rationalize the feelings of others. Instead of behaving in a way that shows how they are feeling in the moment, they behave in the way that they feel they are expected to behave or that gives them the most attention

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If you really read this and think about it.. you can easily understand why he MUST speak out. Why he must try to correct perceptions of him. Why he MUST at all costs, try to control the story. And more importantly, why he's doing it to the direct detriment of his own legal defense. This story undoes everything that he believes himself to be and everything which he believes he's made you believe he is. It's not what he's done that he's struggling to cope with as a normal, empathetic person would... its what you think of him that he's struggling to correct at ANY cost.

That urge by both him and his mother (likely also a narcissistic personality - and yes, these personality traits are highly heritable) to start correcting others perceptions of him is exponentially stronger than that obvious move, which simple common sense would dictate - which is keep your mouth shut, get an attorney. Speak through only through the attorney. He felt the need to go on tv of all things. If that doesn't tell you he's a severely broken person, then nothing will. He was putting nails in his own coffin.

Happy Birthday Donny!

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And again... think about the "mothers" statements and position. She also seems to be narcissistic as i pointed out from the start.

Hostile.
Bitter.
Unrealistic demands and expecations.
No remorse.
No real understanding of how normal social interactions play out.
Not the slightest degree of empathy or a hint of remorse for alleged victims (even if only being smart enough to fake it).
And she adds the best disclaimer ever... "God did it and only he knows why".. i.e. "my son is not at all responsible for his actions, so fuck off!"

She has no demonstrated ability to even understand why its socially appropriate to feign empathy, remorse, regret, and even make a general statement that she hopes they're alright, that its not true etc. For example, a normal person would say something like "though i have reason to doubt the allegations, in time, i pray that all the facts come out and exonerate my Son, he is still my Son and I am his mother and I do love him and i sincerely hope that time proves that ... blah blah blah and I do wish their families well and that they can pull through this time of difficulty, no matter what it is that they are going through and why this is happening..." or whatever.

In spite of mountains of evidence and facts, she is 100% defiant and demanding... indicating that there is a great deal wrong with how she understands others, how she understands (or has no capacity to understand) moral behavior and the expectations of others in even basic social interaction.

When i read this stuff, my first thought is "Oh, this is where Donny gets it from".

If you read his fathers facebook page and there is no obvious indication of behavioral or mental issues or odd behavior.

If you read Donnys facebook page, you'll see quickly that no other family members offer any show of public support to him... not even his father or immediate family. That is a bit of a red flag.

:2 cents:

this whole episode is just sad. I hope P.L.K is just a troll; to think of a mother stooping to this level of desperation makes me kinda ill. my own mom had to deal with the fallout from some of my bro's criminal behavior (nothing pedo/sex assault related-thankfully) but through the pain she never once blamed the victims or the system for his behavior. She understood that he fucked up but she loved him anyways and stood with him, insisting that he own up to his behavior. That's a book from which it's worth to take a page, just saying.

If this is Donny's mom posting here, focus on what's important: seeking help for your son and supporting him through the process of coming to terms with the crimes with which he's charged. If he is guilty real people were hurt by him-profoundly so. If he's innocent then that same kid is still fucked; in that someone chose to wield her body and sexuality as a weapon. Your lack of empathy for her is appalling. Being a mother doesn't excuse you from being a decent human being.

Either way, trying to massage his internet presence and blaming children for your son's present circumstances is an easy way out that does no one any good.

Like I said, I hope P.L.K is just a troll. The alternative is just too pathetic and sad to fathom.

This is such bullshit. Prove you are who you are, or fuck off.

Who the fuck are you to make demands of anyone? Serious question.

Wait... what? :disgust

Some of this alleged shit took place in your house? Why did donny still live with mama?

So we've heard. :thumbsup

There's some irony for you.

I enjoy the many many layers of crazy in her threads.

The fact that a 41 year old man had teenagers who were neither his daughters nor his wife's daughters living in his house with him is beyond disturbing, especially when you add the fact that he has no teenage daughters or a teenage son a girlfriend might be living with if she had family troubles.

Who in their right mind allows this? The girls mother(s) who allowed their daughters to move into a house with a single (?) man that age, with his published history, should be jailed as well, for negligence and neglect. WTF??? Who in the hell lets their children do something like this? Why didn't the neighbors call CPS and report the fact that teenage girls were running around the house of a man they were not related to?

If this slightly bewildered, likely unbalanced woman claiming to be Donny's mother is his mother, perhaps she can explain how in the hell she did not explain to him that this was probably the worst idea ever, including shooting himself in the head repeatedly.

In about 5 minutes I tracked down his father and mother.

His mother hasn't posted on facebook since July..

Damn... dumb asses.

God bless us everyone

Her last post on her own account was yesterday. Her last post on Donny's facebook account was on the 21st of December and started when he got arrested.

Got to thinking about the statement I made above....If PLK is a fake nic.....

Is there a GFYer who:

1. Knows Donny
2. Has a hard on for Donny
3. Lives in Donny's general area
4. Is friends with a cop who may have inside knowledge
5. Recently posted about Donny being arrested

Nah....Probaby nobody that fits that description. :glugglug

LOL yeah but that guy is also a fucking idiot in every single way I can see so that takes him out of the picture haha

6. clever enough to keep it going for more than two posts

Definitely not rochard. :)

I think it is his mom because of the shit I said in other places and how she has replied there also.
She is just as nutty as he is. God planned all this you know.
He is there for a reason. He can do no wrong LOL

LOL that is what I am saying. He would have talked about himself by now. He could never keep it going this long.
"Donny is a good boy who loved Mustangs and trucks"

"I will be moving Donny's things out of his house this week and going home to Redding. I still need a temporary home for his 2 English mastiffs.I live in a small apt."

FB...

Yeah... not sure Squealer... I was not logged into facebook and donny's page was not active... and guess I got the mother wrong. Guess the father remarried or something don't care...

This nick is a troll for sure though. No way in hell would the mother come here for hours looking for support with a group like gfy... just no way. Read above... nick in here eluded they lived together... nick on FB eluded to moving things out of his house and that her apartment was too small to house 2 dogs.

Both very valid points. :1orglaugh

There, fixed it for you.

Yes you should. You should not be posting here and make yourself miserable.
This is a business forum where only the strong survive.
Do yourself a favor and dont come back cause you will not find any empathy for Donny here. Nomatter what you do. :2 cents:

'inside info' that is available to anyone who knows donny's fb page? no way is this poster his mom :2 cents:

It's her I'm pretty sure. Nobody on GFY is good enough to put this act on.

The P.L. Kindig account was registered in 2003, that's his mother's name, so if you think it's a fake you have to believe that somebody on here after finding her name on Facebook would intuitively wonder if perhaps at one time Donny or her had registered on GFY with her name at some point in the past. I sure wouldn't have wondered that. Then that person would have to guess her password. It is very Donny that as he sits in jail he'd be concerned with how he's being talked about on GFY and would remember that his mother had an account here and told her to come here and report back to him.

Of course I may be wrong. :upsidedow

Makes perfect sense. I can't tell you how many old school webmasters had their moms working with them, usually doing the books. It's her.

I'd sure like to see where the posting IP is located. Like I mentioned before, genuine stupidity baffles me, and if this is really her, well, I just can't begin to put into words how dumb someone has to be, to post like this. Maybe I'm just naive as to how much some people are so low on intelligence (common sense) levels that they'd come on a board thinking they would 'find one or two of his friends' and stick around when they saw their son had added a teen porn site to the sig on the account they'd set up on their mom's account, get gay porn hurled at them, threads pointed out where donny laid out his plans to do exactly what he's been doing for the past few years, and come out with shit like 'he is doing the lord's work in jail'.

If it *is* actually her, then it's possible donny has instigated this whole thing purely in some fantasy notion of using the replies in the various threads as 'proof' that he is intensely disliked, and that 'backs up' his whole 'I was set up by haters' defence.

Which would take crazy to a whole unprecedented level.

I still think statistically, this on top of all the other pure crazy that is the donny story, is a probability too far.

It is 2003 and her name, Does Donny care what we think and say about him on this board? Fuck yeah he does. He has never stopped coming here.
If it was a new accouant then I would not believe it but it was started in 2003 and if someone else made it up in 2003 even before he found Jezus they would have had fun with it by now anyway.