Whatever happened to Acacia? - GoFuckYourself.com

TTI-Rich · 01-13-2015, 02:51 AM

Did Acacia just go away? They sent me a letter which I ignored and they let me be. Lightspeed was going to fight them, what came of that?

jscott · 01-13-2015, 03:46 AM

I think that shit just disappeared. Haven't heard anything about Acacia for years

XMaster · 01-13-2015, 03:59 AM

they came. they took the money. they left.
good biz.

mikesouth · 01-13-2015, 09:25 AM

not unlike ICMR

fitzmulti · 01-13-2015, 09:34 AM

Good riddance.

Horatio Caine · 01-13-2015, 09:42 AM

Got letter from them as well. Went straight to trashcan. Should have kept it for memories.

marcop · 01-13-2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Got letter from them as well. Went straight to trashcan. Should have kept it for memories.

I scanned the letter they sent me, and have a copy somewhere. At the time, I hadn't ever put any video on the web on any of my websites, so it was obviously a total scam attempt on their part.

edgeprod · 01-13-2015, 11:03 AM

When they mailed me using a misspelling of my name that was only present in my Matrix Content account, I knew the source of the information, and threw it right in the trash.

TisMe · 01-13-2015, 11:13 AM

I believe that the patent they were trying to enforce was ruled invalid. Farrell (Far-L) and some others fought them and won.

Acacia is still around and still a patent troll.

Far-L · 01-13-2015, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TisMe

I believe that the patent they were trying to enforce was ruled invalid. Farrell (Far-L) and some others fought them and won.

Acacia is still around and still a patent troll.

Thank you.

Yes, our Defense Group with VS, Lightspeed, Homegrown, and others fought them for years, got Time Warner in the mix, etc. and won outright in the end. We won and saved a lot of people from having to pay. Those that agreed to the patent still would have to pay the license. Sucks to be them since they are still paying.

Only Edgeprod would've had a legit defense by ignoring it since they didn't get his name right. Anyone else that ignored it did so at their peril and if they didn't go after you at the time then it probably meant you weren't worth the trouble.

So spare me the bravado and posturing of "I threw it in the trash and ignored it". Everyone that did that at the time was taking an enormous legal risk that could have impacted their business, especially those that used GFY as a pulpit to brag that they were ignoring a legal filing. Anyone that treats business that way is not really acting professionally.

Other patent trolls have come along but our experience with Acacia has acted as a force field from most other similar trolling Lemelson style patents. I say most, but not all; however, now we are like Vietcong in the jungle with enough AK47 ammo to make anyone think twice about getting into it with us or regret it if they do.

edgeprod · 01-13-2015, 12:26 PM

Funny thing is, they never followed up on it, either ... Such loser trolls.

Far-L · 01-13-2015, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

Funny thing is, they never followed up on it, either ... Such loser trolls.

Our group put tied them up pretty good so they stopped going after individuals after a while, but especially when the big media giants were pulled in.

SomeCreep · 01-13-2015, 01:46 PM

Haha, Acacia, those fucks.

edgeprod · 01-13-2015, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Our group put tied them up pretty good so they stopped going after individuals after a while, but especially when the big media giants were pulled in.

Awesome, man. Great work, thank you. I had no idea you were involved.

TisMe · 01-13-2015, 01:58 PM

Acacia is still very active, and still a patent troll:

https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?company=acacia

pornguy · 01-13-2015, 02:03 PM

We got the letter as well. Had my first name and the wifes last name on it for some reason. So we ignored it.

BlackCrayon · 01-13-2015, 02:12 PM

are any of the companies that paid them still around?

AmeliaG · 01-13-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Thank you.

Yes, our Defense Group with VS, Lightspeed, Homegrown, and others fought them for years, got Time Warner in the mix, etc. and won outright in the end. We won and saved a lot of people from having to pay. Those that agreed to the patent still would have to pay the license. Sucks to be them since they are still paying.

Only Edgeprod would've had a legit defense by ignoring it since they didn't get his name right. Anyone else that ignored it did so at their peril and if they didn't go after you at the time then it probably meant you weren't worth the trouble.

So spare me the bravado and posturing of "I threw it in the trash and ignored it". Everyone that did that at the time was taking an enormous legal risk that could have impacted their business, especially those that used GFY as a pulpit to brag that they were ignoring a legal filing. Anyone that treats business that way is not really acting professionally.

Other patent trolls have come along but our experience with Acacia has acted as a force field from most other similar trolling Lemelson style patents. I say most, but not all; however, now we are like Vietcong in the jungle with enough AK47 ammo to make anyone think twice about getting into it with us or regret it if they do.

Kudos

I just wrote them a letter pointing out that my company had never posted video to the web. Which was true. I did, however, buy photo content from Matrix.

Whatever happened to Matrix? I kind if miss when there were a lot of content providers with easy shopping.

mikesouth · 01-13-2015, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

are any of the companies that paid them still around?

Yup...Hustler

Kenny B! · 01-13-2015, 03:02 PM

Homegrown deserves a ton of credit, I know we donated to the fund to help them fight Acacia.

This industry doesn't team up often to fight a cause but this time it did and we won, thanks to Spike, Far-L and a handful of others.

thanks again guys

blackmonsters · 01-13-2015, 03:17 PM

I figured that their patent was invalid; but glad I didn't have to make a choice like others did.

TheSquealer · 01-13-2015, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

When they mailed me using a misspelling of my name that was only present in my Matrix Content account, I knew the source of the information, and threw it right in the trash.

The same exact thing happened to me... with Matrix and i spelled my wrong, then rather than correcting it, i added some letters to make it sound funny (i was bored and annoyed with all the info they required)... later, i got a letter from Acacia with that spelling, making it painfully obvious how they got my name.

actually, i remember this same thing happened to quite a few people

makeabuck · 01-13-2015, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Kudos

I just wrote them a letter pointing out that my company had never posted video to the web. Which was true. I did, however, buy photo content from Matrix.

Whatever happened to Matrix? I kind if miss when there were a lot of content providers with easy shopping.

The content pickins are so slim anymore. I miss those days too. I have soooo much matrix content.

I remember Acacia. I was so scared because of some stupid voice wavs on my websites. I'm sure they sent me something, but EscortBiz giggled and told me not to worry. So, I didn't.

MaDalton · 01-13-2015, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by makeabuck

The content pickins are so slim anymore. I miss those days too. I have soooo much matrix content.

I'd be the last to complain ;)

makeabuck · 01-13-2015, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

I'd be the last to complain ;)

You are my favorite by far! *wink* Promise.

But I do remember the days of ounique, matrix and more.

marcop · 01-13-2015, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod

When they mailed me using a misspelling of my name that was only present in my Matrix Content account, I knew the source of the information, and threw it right in the trash.

We'd never bought from Matrix Content, and my business partner believed for reasons I can't remember now that Acacia got our details from either our registration one year at an AVN show, or from having our badges scanned at an AVN show. I doubted that, but who knows?

marcop · 01-13-2015, 10:19 PM

I found the scanned copy of the Acacia letter:

Far-L · 01-14-2015, 01:37 AM

Matrix wasn't the only one to rat out all its affiliates. Those were dark times.

Some hard lessons learned. Kenny was one of the only ones that helped at the time although many claimed they did but did not. However, one company put in tons of cash but never was part of the group and never wanted any sort of credit for their contribution and that is ATK. Huge respect and thanks to Kim to this day.

01-13-2015, 02:51 AM	#1
TTI-Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Hood Posts: 158	Whatever happened to Acacia? Did Acacia just go away? They sent me a letter which I ignored and they let me be. Lightspeed was going to fight them, what came of that?

01-13-2015, 03:59 AM	#3
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01-13-2015, 09:25 AM	#4
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01-13-2015, 09:34 AM	#5
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01-13-2015, 01:46 PM	#13
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	Haha, Acacia, those fucks. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

01-13-2015, 03:46 AM	#2
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	I think that shit just disappeared. Haven't heard anything about Acacia for years

01-13-2015, 09:42 AM	#6
Horatio Caine full-time aspiring rapper Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Compton, CA Posts: 5,746	Got letter from them as well. Went straight to trashcan. Should have kept it for memories.

01-13-2015, 11:03 AM	#8
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	When they mailed me using a misspelling of my name that was only present in my Matrix Content account, I knew the source of the information, and threw it right in the trash.

01-13-2015, 11:13 AM	#9
TisMe Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,719	I believe that the patent they were trying to enforce was ruled invalid. Farrell (Far-L) and some others fought them and won. Acacia is still around and still a patent troll.

01-13-2015, 12:26 PM	#11
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	Funny thing is, they never followed up on it, either ... Such loser trolls.

01-13-2015, 01:58 PM	#15
TisMe Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,719	Acacia is still very active, and still a patent troll: https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?company=acacia

01-13-2015, 02:03 PM	#16
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01-13-2015, 03:02 PM	#20
Kenny B! Confirmed Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,714	Homegrown deserves a ton of credit, I know we donated to the fund to help them fight Acacia. This industry doesn't team up often to fight a cause but this time it did and we won, thanks to Spike, Far-L and a handful of others. thanks again guys __________________ Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com Skype: kennyb514 Do business with us: Your Paysite Partner Kenny's Pennies Sticky Dollars Radical Cash Indie Bucks Stand Ahead Read My Ambush Interview Here

01-13-2015, 03:17 PM	#21
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01-13-2015, 10:19 PM	#27
marcop Content Producer Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,142	I found the scanned copy of the Acacia letter:

01-14-2015, 01:37 AM	#28
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,075	Matrix wasn't the only one to rat out all its affiliates. Those were dark times. Some hard lessons learned. Kenny was one of the only ones that helped at the time although many claimed they did but did not. However, one company put in tons of cash but never was part of the group and never wanted any sort of credit for their contribution and that is ATK. Huge respect and thanks to Kim to this day. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."