Search engine rankings no longer good for measuring seo? - GoFuckYourself.com

AdultSites · 02-16-2015, 01:25 PM

I am reading a book, which says that rank tracking / search engine rankings are no longer good indicator of seo work, because of personalized search. Serps are dynamic, and different for different people, according to the book.

The advice there is to use Google Webmaster Tools, and look at the keywords there, as a better source of info.

Do you agree? What is your opinion on that? I would say that rank tracking is still good.

Paz · 02-16-2015, 02:19 PM

I agree that ranking is a flawed metric to report on but surely at the end of the day if you have a search engine strategy for traffic then you have to rank quite well for useful keyword phrases, with volume and in your chosen country - regardless of their personalisation, location, favourite cheese etc. and you have to agree with the client that tracking will be difficult.

At the same time you can track other metrics such as signups, social signals etc.

SpyCam · 02-16-2015, 02:25 PM

You don't need to look after for ranks, nor for quantity SE traffic (unless you sell banners per impression).
You need highly targeted SE traffic that makes you meet your goals, or engage/convert...

And yes, SERP listings are personalized.

AdultKing · 02-16-2015, 02:45 PM

For as long as search engines have been delivering personalised results to users your search ranking has been a useless metric.

Measure success in SEO by how much search traffic you get that sticks and doesn't bounce

brassmonkey · 02-16-2015, 03:19 PM

god i wish you guys would not talk about this here

this is going to get indexed

slapass · 02-16-2015, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

god i wish you guys would not talk about this here

this is going to get indexed

I thought GFY was a nofollow site?

CPA-Rush · 02-16-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

god i wish you guys would not talk about this here

this is going to get indexed

only share news ?

nico-t · 02-16-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

god i wish you guys would not talk about this here

this is going to get indexed

TheSquealer · 02-16-2015, 03:58 PM

search results are still only personalized for people logged in to their google account right? So what has changed since personalized search results began quite a few years ago?? I mean, its been what?.... 7-8 years now? More?

brassmonkey · 02-16-2015, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

I thought GFY was a nofollow site?

clueless

brassmonkey · 02-16-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

like you im not here to show my ass every day

ITraffic · 02-16-2015, 04:01 PM

you are correct. seo has nothing to do with search engine rankings anymore.

blackmonsters · 02-16-2015, 05:11 PM

I think personalized search sucks ass.
I don't want to get put in some hole where everyone else is looking at something different than me.

Harmon · 02-16-2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

like you im not here to show my ass every day

AdultSites · 02-17-2015, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

search results are still only personalized for people logged in to their google account right? So what has changed since personalized search results began quite a few years ago?? I mean, its been what?.... 7-8 years now? More?

Beginning on December 4, 2009, Personalized Search was applied to all users of Google Search, including those who are not logged into a Google Account.

oppoten · 02-17-2015, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I think personalized search sucks ass.
I don't want to get put in some hole where everyone else is looking at something different than me.

Alienation. It's what they do.

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Paz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 457	I agree that ranking is a flawed metric to report on but surely at the end of the day if you have a search engine strategy for traffic then you have to rank quite well for useful keyword phrases, with volume and in your chosen country - regardless of their personalisation, location, favourite cheese etc. and you have to agree with the client that tracking will be difficult. At the same time you can track other metrics such as signups, social signals etc.

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SpyCam PoiSEO.com Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: PoiSEO.com Posts: 1,201	You don't need to look after for ranks, nor for quantity SE traffic (unless you sell banners per impression). You need highly targeted SE traffic that makes you meet your goals, or engage/convert... And yes, SERP listings are personalized.

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AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	For as long as search engines have been delivering personalised results to users your search ranking has been a useless metric. Measure success in SEO by how much search traffic you get that sticks and doesn't bounce

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ITraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,726	you are correct. seo has nothing to do with search engine rankings anymore.