Will Apple buy Tesla for $75 billion?

[dyna mo]

word around an espresso machine is that this deal will happen within 18 months.

[clickity click]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

word around an espresso machine is that this deal will happen within 18 months.

Probably not A simple reason why Apple won't buy Tesla for $75B

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by clickity click

Probably not A simple reason why Apple won't buy Tesla for $75B

you think they'll buy it for closer to $25b then?

[Mickey_]

I'm still on the fence about Calacanis' prediction on this.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Mickey_

I'm still on the fence about Calacanis' prediction on this.

on the price or the deal at all?

[Zuzana Designs]

Going to be interesting to see how it turns out. I'm an Apple and Tesla fan.

[RyuLion]

Congratz to them if they do..

[Mickey_]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

on the price or the deal at all?

The deal itself. On one hand it makes sense, on the other I'm not sure Musk would make an exit just yet.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Mickey_

The deal itself. On one hand it makes sense, on the other I'm not sure Musk would make an exit just yet.

good point. on the quarterly conference call recently he said Tesla will be a $700b company

Tesla CEO Elon Musk says a lot of bold things. But he may have just outdone himself. He thinks the stock will go into "insane mode" over the next decade.
Musk told investors on the company's earnings conference call Wednesday evening that Tesla (TSLA) could be worth $700 billion by 2025.


Elon Musk's 'insane' call: Tesla is worth $700 billion - Feb. 12, 2015

[ITraffic]

i think elon's vision is larger than cashing out in a year, so no.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

i think elon's vision is larger than cashing out in a year, so no.

what if Apple sweetens the deal and gives him all kinds of super powers over there?

[Dvae]

We really should wait for Mark Prince to weigh in, after that nothing left to be said. Thread closed!

[epitome]

Word around an espresso machine? LOL

Jason Calacanis proposed just this in a Medium post the other day. At least tens of thousands have read and discussed it.

At first I was thinking nah, but then he did lay out a compelling argument. Not so sure on the price, but Apple has been known to overpay for things they want if they feel it will be a strategic fit. Look no further than Beats. Plus they'd probably get Elon Musk onboard. It would partly be a talent play, just like they wanted and got with Dre and Jimmy in the Beats deal.

Steve was always the big dreamer who knew how to (mostly) successfully execute. Tim Cook is an excellent CEO. I suspect he is more operational, and knows this, and is therefore going after talent. Tim knows he needs big dreamers with proven success to fill the big shoes Jobs left behind.

[SilentKnight]

I hope Musk doesn't consider selling Tesla. He's an innovator and a large part of the driving force behind Tesla. Look what happened at Apple when they got rid of Jobs. And how they rebounded when he came back.

Never put cheap spark plugs in a perfectly good engine.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by epitome

Word around an espresso machine? LOL

Jason Calacanis proposed just this in a Medium post the other day. At least tens of thousands have read and discussed it.

At first I was thinking nah, but then he did lay out a compelling argument. Not so sure on the price, but Apple has been known to overpay for things they want if they feel it will be a strategic fit. Look no further than Beats. Plus they'd possibly get Elon Musk onboard. It was partly be a talent play, just like they wanted and got Dre and Jimmy in the Beats deal.

I'm glad you thought that was funny! obviously the point being it's one view, not a top-secret buy TSSL stock now tip.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I'm glad you thought that was funny! obviously the point being it's one view, not a top-secret buy TSSL stock now tip.

I wasn't done editing my post and I guess "an" is what threw me off. Like it was some top secret water cooler talk you were privy to. I obviously interpreted wrong.

[Mickey_]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I hope Musk doesn't consider selling Tesla. He's an innovator and a large part of the driving force behind Tesla. Look what happened at Apple when they got rid of Jobs. And how they rebounded when he came back.

Never put cheap spark plugs in a perfectly good engine.

Pretty sure it would be an acquihire and they would keep him on for a while. (which is another reason why I have doubts about this materializing)

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by epitome

I wasn't done editing my post and I guess "an" is what threw me off. Like it was some top secret water cooler talk you were privy to. I obviously interpreted wrong.

no biggie, thanks for weighing in on the OP. Do you think Apple could entice Musk over with a monster deal for him/Tesla?

[Mickey_]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

good point. on the quarterly conference call recently he said Tesla will be a $700b company

Tesla CEO Elon Musk says a lot of bold things. But he may have just outdone himself. He thinks the stock will go into "insane mode" over the next decade.
Musk told investors on the company's earnings conference call Wednesday evening that Tesla (TSLA) could be worth $700 billion by 2025.


Elon Musk's 'insane' call: Tesla is worth $700 billion - Feb. 12, 2015

I missed that one, but that's exactly my point. He's extremely driven and Tesla's just starting to overcome some of the larger obstacles standing in the way of their cars "going mainstream". It's too early.

[GFED]

Fundamentally TSLA is a company being run down by a CEO that only cares about his paycheck. I'm pretty sure AAPL is going to outdo TSLA.

[seeandsee]

they will buy it, it will skyrocket sales

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by GFED

Fundamentally TSLA is a company being run down by a CEO that only cares about his paycheck. I'm pretty sure AAPL is going to outdo TSLA.

i seriously doubt that Elon Musk cares about his personal paycheck

[crockett]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I hope Musk doesn't consider selling Tesla. He's an innovator and a large part of the driving force behind Tesla. Look what happened at Apple when they got rid of Jobs. And how they rebounded when he came back.

Never put cheap spark plugs in a perfectly good engine.

Musk is Telsa, much the same as Jobs was Apple.. I think it would be very hard for any company to innovate as he has or have the same ability to push from concept to production.. Maybe in 10 years it would work once things are more mainstream, but at this time & age of electric cars Tesla would fail if another company took it over, with out Musk at the helm.. There is still too much work to be done and Apple or anyone else would fall flat on their faces..

[Erik_B]

I hope not!!!

I would hate to see Tesla's open source model fall into the hands of the rotten Apple

[chaze]

I hope they do, that would get interesting.

[bronco67]

isn't that pocket change for them?

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by crockett

Musk is Telsa, much the same as Jobs was Apple.. I think it would be very hard for any company to innovate as he has or have the same ability to push from concept to production.. Maybe in 10 years it would work once things are more mainstream, but at this time & age of electric cars Tesla would fail if another company took it over, with out Musk at the helm.. There is still too much work to be done and Apple or anyone else would fall flat on their faces..

In total agreement.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Mickey_

I'm still on the fence about Calacanis' prediction on this.

If they do, Tesla will go to shit ................

[Relentless]

If their battery technology joint venture takes off they will be known mostly for that. Apple would be 'that battery company that also makes electronics' and Tesla would be 'that battery company that also makes cars' A cell phone that needs charging once a month and car that needs charging once a year would make all the rest tiny by comparison when they license that out to every electrical product on the planet.

Whether they join up or not depends mostly on that project.

[GFED]

Originally Posted by Relentless

If their battery technology joint venture takes off they will be known mostly for that. Apple would be 'that battery company that also makes electronics' and Tesla would be 'that battery company that also makes cars' A cell phone that needs charging once a month and car that needs charging once a year would make all the rest tiny by comparison when they license that out to every electrical product on the planet.

Whether they join up or not depends mostly on that project.

My thought is that one of them plans on buying out this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkFDPI6kGE

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Dvae

We really should wait for Mark Prince to weigh in, after that nothing left to be said. Thread closed!

Hello!

Actually I hope that Apple does not buy Tesla / hope that Elon does not sell to Apple.

I like to think that Elon Musk is having a really good time and really enjoying what he is doing; changing the world with electric cars, building better batteries, and building spaceships. If I were him, I don't think I could sell my Tesla-baby for any amount of money.

I also think Apple is making a mistake getting into the car business. I like my Apple computers and iPhones, but Apple would have a seriously hard time impressing me with a new car, electric or not.

If I were Mr. Apple, I would try to get my technology into cars first. For example, GM really needs to drop the horrible, crappy MyLink system and replace it with an iPad. GM makes decent cars but their interfaces suck. Replacing MyLink with an in-dash iPad would be much better and far less expensive. Tesla's interface is pretty good...

[MrPay]

So, if they buy Tesla (which i hope would NEVER EVER happen) would that mean that the plug would change every year and you would be forced to upgrade a car for a new model each year?? ;-).

I am also sure the battery would start having immediate problems…

Musk = Tony Stark of today, genius and futurist. Jobs = expensive toys for rich with a hostage strategy in it

[tony286]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

word around an espresso machine is that this deal will happen within 18 months.

Did you hear the apple tesla 2?
Yeah but you should wait. I heard the tesla 2s will come with four tires, not just with rims like the 2.

[arock10]

Musk would still have space-x which is way more cool and futuristic then electronic cars

Ride sharing like uber is making people need less cars and use less fuel anyway. I'd say if apple bought tesla it'd be so they could once again own the proprietary hardware for their giant network of driverless cars you can hail

[czarina]

what good would it make Apple?

[MrPay]

Seems the game is on:

"Apple car rumors continue to fly

The Apple iCar rumor mill is kicking into high gear as A123 Systems has filed a lawsuit against the tech giant for hiring some of their top engineers.
According to the suit, Apple started poaching A123 Systems employees in June of 2014. They contend that once hired, they began working on projects similar to the ones they were doing at A123 Systems. The company says this is a violation of their employment agreements and contends "Apple is currently developing a large-scale battery division to compete in the very same field as A123."
The suit goes on to claim that former employee Mujeeb Ijaz is helping Apple to "systematically" hire "A123’s high-tech PhD and engineering employees, thereby effectively shutting down various projects/programs at A123."
Apple hasn't responded to the suit but A123 Systems will probably sound familiar to anyone who was a fan of the ill-fated Fisker Karma. The battery-maker went bankrupt in 2012 and stopped suppling batteries to Fisker. This, in return, halted Karma production and helped to push the automaker into bankruptcy. Both companies were eventually bought by the Wanxiang who is actively trying to revive Fisker."

Source: Reuters

[Rochard]

Tesla is the one car company that is doing things right.... Great car, and it's electric. While all of the other car companies are trying to build an electric car, Tesla is doing it. And it's a great car. As soon as they can lower the prices a little bit and make SUVs, they will dominate the market.