Here comes the collusion part....

[Rochard]

Seems Republican operative Peter Smith was in touch with both the Trump campaign the Russian hackers....

Peter Smith was working to get the "Clinton deleted emails" from Russian hackers, and serve as an intermediatiary between the Russian hackers and the Trump campaign - naming Flynn, Bannon, and Conway as contacts.

A longtime Republican activist who led an operation hoping to obtain Hillary Clinton emails from hackers listed senior members of the Drumpf campaign, including some who now serve as top aides in the White House, in a recruitment document for his effort.
The activist, Peter W. Smith, named the officials in a section of the document marked ?Drumpf Campaign.? The document was dated Sept. 7, 2016. That was around the time Mr. Smith said he started his search for 33,000 emails Mrs. Clinton deleted from the private server she used for official business while secretary of state?

As reported Thursday by The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Smith and people he recruited to his effort theorized the deleted emails might have been stolen by hackers and might contain matters that were politically damaging. He and his associates said they were in touch with several groups of hackers, including two from Russia they suspected were tied to the Moscow government, in a bid to find any stolen emails and potentially hurt Mrs. Clinton?s prospects.

Mr. Smith?s purpose in listing the officials isn?t clear. There is no indication in the document that he sought or received any coordination from the campaign officials or the campaign in general?

Officials identified in the document include Steve Bannon, now chief strategist for President Donald Drumpf; Kellyanne Conway, former campaign manager and now White House counselor; Sam Clovis, a policy adviser to the Trump campaign and now a senior adviser at the Agriculture Department; and retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, who was a campaign adviser and briefly was national security adviser in the Trump administration?
The names of the other campaign officials haven?t surfaced in connection with Mr. Smith?s work except in the document, which the Journal reviewed on Friday.

The document section that lists campaign officials is followed by the words, ?in coordination to the extent permitted as an independent expenditure.??a possible reference to campaign strictures imposed by campaign finance and disclosure laws.
The document was included in a package of opposition research Mr. Smith shared through an encrypted email with Matt Tait, a cybersecurity expert who once worked for British intelligence. Mr. Tait said he was approached last summer by Mr. Smith, who wanted him to help verify whether emails offered to the group by hackers came from Mrs. Clinton?s private serve.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-act...als-1498872923

[Rochard]

I don't know what the truth is, but it's going to come out eventually....

[onwebcam]

You don't read very well. It says in your own quoting "might have been stolen by hackers and might contain matters that were politically damaging" and "Mr. Smith’s purpose in listing the officials isn’t clear. There is no indication in the document that he sought or received any coordination from the campaign officials or the campaign in general…"

Mr. Smith was on a fishing expedition to try and make a political name for himself. At the time everyone and their mother was trying to obtain the deleted emails.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You don't read very well. It says in your own quoting "might have been stolen by hackers and might contain matters that were politically damaging" and "Mr. Smith?s purpose in listing the officials isn?t clear. There is no indication in the document that he sought or received any coordination from the campaign officials or the campaign in general?"

Mr. Smith was on a fishing expedition to try and make a political name for himself. At the time everyone and their mother was trying to obtain the deleted emails.

I read very well, thank you very much.

Maybe he was on a fishing expedition. Maybe he was in touch with both the Trump campaign and the Russian government hackers at at the same time.

[TheSquealer]

yeah... you read "very well"... .you just don't know what "collusion" means.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I read very well, thank you very much.

Maybe he was on a fishing expedition. Maybe he was in touch with both the Trump campaign and the Russian government hackers at at the same time.

Maybe he was in contact with a username on the internet claiming to be a Russian hacker at the time. Maybe he wasn't. For all we know it could have been one of the many "fake russian usernames" here at GFY Bladewire has been investigating.

The point is the "evidence of collusion" once again is full of holes. There's many might's and maybe's in there. Also find it strange that this is the 2 "ex" UK intelligence officer who has joined this "Russia" effort. The first one turned out to be a big fraud.

[onwebcam]

Kim Dotcom was also trying to obtain the emails. He was apparently in contact with Seth Rich, wikileaks and was also trying to contact the Trump admin (or maybe even was in contact?). Does that mean he was in collusion as well?

[Bladewire]

Love how the redhat mindhive swarms in, ignoring EVERY fact and going right to making excuses and personal attacks, same thing every fucking time, so old hat ladies up your game you're in way over your heads everyone around Trump is sinking and he's going down with the ship and Peter Smith is the straw that broke the fat asses back. Deal with it bitches!

Robert Mueller just hired the countries top prosecuter, Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Goldstein of the Southern District of New York today, you know why? Because
Robert Mueller is getting ready to PROSECUTE! Lots of evidence from Flynn singing like a bird to protect his son from prosecution

[Bladewire]

Peter Smith was the key. There's a reason the Russian ambassador is leaving America now and never returning, shit is about to go down bitches!!

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

yeah... you read "very well"... .you just don't know what "collusion" means.

They got him this time!!!!!!!!!!!11

I had to double check the date. Rochard is still posting this nonsense...good fucking lord

[crockett]

One Webcam quit trying to play cover. The topic I posted last night was a op-ed from the guy Trump's team contacted. He has emails from Trump's team telling him they were in contact with the hackers and were trying to make a deal for the emails.

I showed you this last night and you still deny it like your name was Robbie..

Nothing you say here can change the fact the FBI already has this info and it's 100% obvious this is the collusion they have been looking at in the investigation.

Why try to lie about it?

For those interested, this is the topic..

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...on-speaks.html


and this is the op-ed by the guy who was the source for the WSJ article

https://lawfareblog.com/time-i-got-r...llude-russians

[crockett]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

They got him this time!!!!!!!!!!!11

I had to double check the date. Rochard is still posting this nonsense...good fucking lord

What is nonsense is you think any of this is over.. The FBI won't "get" anyone until they are finished with their investigation or they think there is risk one of the targets might run.

Will Trump get arrested? No, because he can only be impeached, but his under lackeys will see jail cells, they don't get the same protections as Trump & Pence. The FBI doesn't go arresting people just because new papers get bits and pieces of info. The FBI will arrest Trump's team when the investigation is over. You nimrod think this is all fake because your daddy tells you that.. wake up and quit being so fucking gullible.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

yeah... you read "very well"... .you just don't know what "collusion" means.

Perfect FOX News parrot.


Sorry, Fox News: Legal Experts Say Trump Collusion With Russia Could Be a Crime


Fox News host wrong that no law forbids Russia-Trump collusion

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

Will Trump get arrested? No, because he can only be impeached, but his under lackeys will see jail cells.

And Trump will be raking in the bucks "campaigning" most every weekend to funnel the money to his properties where he holds the events (and raises their rates 3x's as much those days to do so), like the one he did the other day. Oh and costing the taxpayers over $400,000 in airfare , like he did today, just to see a concert in DC. Fucking pig

That $400,000 could be used to fix the roads and strengthen infrastructure!

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

And Trump will be raking in the bucks "campaigning" most every weekend to funnel the money to his properties where he holds the events (and raises their rates 3x's as much those days to do so), like the one he did the other day. Oh and costing the taxpayers over $400,000 in airfare , like he did today, just to see a concert in DC. Fucking pig

That $400,000 could be used to fix the roads and strengthen infrastructure!

It 's ok though! At least it's not Hillary or Obama or those two did the same but worse! Chumpanzees are a special brand of stupid mindless sheep

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

It 's ok though! At least it's not Hillary or Obama or those two did the same but worse! Chumpanzees are a special brand of stupid mindless sheep

This is true. No matter what Trump does, he's not responsible unless it's good.

Anything negative Trump does "he's new" "give him a chance" "but Hillary blah ah blah" "but Obama blah blah blah" "he seated a conservative to the court that's enough for me" mindhive parrots

[Busty2]

Resistance is futile

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

yeah... you read "very well"... .you just don't know what "collusion" means.

Let's see.....

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

Yep, I know exactly what it means.

If this is true, it would mean people on the Trump campaign were working with someone who was in touch with the Russian government hackers. That would be a conspiracy. It would also be illegal cooperation if they were trying to steal the election. At the very least everyone involved could be charged with treason.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

There's many might's and maybe's in there.

You are right - a lot of "mights" and "maybes" in there. But they start adding up. And from a lot of different angles too.

I don't believe in coincidences.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Let's see.....

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

Yep, I know exactly what it means.

If this is true, it would mean people on the Trump campaign were working with someone who was in touch with the Russian government hackers. That would be a conspiracy. It would also be illegal cooperation if they were trying to steal the election. At the very least everyone involved could be charged with treason.

If that did happen, and there's no real proof it did, wouldn't it be similar to the DNC hiring a ex UK intelligence officer to make up stories of Trump getting pissed on in a Russian hotel? Except Hillary's emails were very real and pissgate was very fake. We are talking about political smear here. In addition, do you really think this is the first time Russia has "meddled" in our elections? Do you really think we haven't done so in theirs? Isn't that why Putin despised Hillary? Because she lead a campaign to overthrow him? So if Putin did do anything. It wasn't because of his love for Trump but instead his disgust in Hillary. Which BTW many people have obviously.

Get over yourself. You have no moral high ground here. You're beating a dead horse. Nothing will ever come of it.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

What is nonsense is you think any of this is over.. The FBI won't "get" anyone until they are finished with their investigation or they think there is risk one of the targets might run.

Will Drumpf get arrested? No, because he can only be impeached, but his under lackeys will see jail cells, they don't get the same protections as Trump & Pence. The FBI doesn't go arresting people just because new papers get bits and pieces of info. The FBI will arrest Trump's team when the investigation is over. You nimrod think this is all fake because your daddy tells you that.. wake up and quit being so fucking gullible.

Oh this is far from over. This is just beginning. Most likely people will go to prison over this. Even if they find no direct connection from Trump to Russia, they are all under the most intense microscope they have ever been under. They are looking deep into Jared Kushner and his business deals; They are looking at ALL of their business deals. They are finding some very strange things.

Will Trump get arrested? I believe they would have to impeach him and then remove him from office, but eventually he could be arrested, charged, and sent to prison. Being president doesn't mean they are untouchable.

Keep in mind if they discover Trump worked directly with the Russians it would be treason.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

And Drumpf will be raking in the bucks "campaigning" most every weekend to funnel the money to his properties where he holds the events (and raises their rates 3x's as much those days to do so), like the one he did the other day. Oh and costing the taxpayers over $400,000 in airfare , like he did today, just to see a concert in DC. Fucking pig

That $400,000 could be used to fix the roads and strengthen infrastructure!

This is alarming. He is holding campaign events at his hotel, which is in fact making him money.

At the very least he should use hotels that do not belong to him to at least avoid the look of doing something wrong.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Oh this is far from over. This is just beginning. Most likely people will go to prison over this. Even if they find no direct connection from Trump to Russia, they are all under the most intense microscope they have ever been under. They are looking deep into Jared Kushner and his business deals; They are looking at ALL of their business deals. They are finding some very strange things.

Will Trump get arrested? I believe they would have to impeach him and then remove him from office, but eventually he could be arrested, charged, and sent to prison. Being president doesn't mean they are untouchable.

Keep in mind if they discover Trump worked directly with the Russians it would be treason.

At this point the only people who have been fingered in breaking the law so far is Bill Clinton and Lynch and I have yet to hear about any warrants issued. That's because they won't do it. These people all know too much about each other to ever really go after the other. "If I go down, you'll go down"

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

If that did happen, and there's no real proof it did, wouldn't it be similar to the DNC hiring a ex UK intelligence officer to make up stories of Drumpf getting pissed on in a Russian hotel?

No, it wouldn't be remotely similar at all. It's not illegal for one side or the other to dig up dirt on the other side; Both sides do it. And there is nothing illegal about the UK intelligence officer did; He presented the facts as he knew them to be true.

Originally Posted by onwebcam

In addition, do you really think this is the first time Russia has "meddled" in our elections?

I never gave much thought to if this was the first time Russia meddled in our elections. Interesting question.

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Get over yourself. You have no moral high ground here. You're beating a dead horse. Nothing will ever come of it.

I disagree.

The more they dig the more they will find. Even if they do not find any collusion, they find lots of other stuff.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No, it wouldn't be remotely similar at all. It's not illegal for one side or the other to dig up dirt on the other side; Both sides do it. And there is nothing illegal about the UK intelligence officer did; He presented the facts as he knew them to be true.

So you think the emails aren't dirt?

It will never be determined who "hacked" or leaked them. Most likely because he is dead. And he will never be "officially" linked to them.

Originally Posted by Rochard

I never gave much thought to if this was the first time Russia meddled in our elections. Interesting question.

All countries do it. That's why it's a huge "nothing burger"

Originally Posted by Rochard

I disagree.

The more they dig the more they will find. Even if they do not find any collusion, they find lots of other stuff.

Hmm. What do you think about the investigations now veering towards the DNC do wrongs? If DNC/Hillary folks start going down instead of RNC/Trump what will you think of the investigations then?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

At this point the only people who have been fingered in breaking the law so far is Bill Clinton and Lynch and I have yet to hear about any warrants issued. That's because they won't do it. These people all know too much about each other to ever really go after the other. "If I go down, you'll go down"

Dude you are floundering around like a fish out of water.. The denial runs strong in you..

[Bladewire]

Eric Holder to Justice Department, FBI staff: 'Be prepared, be strong'

Former Attorney General Eric Holder on Friday encouraged the "career men and women" at the Justice Department and FBI to "be strong" while they work in the Trump administration.

"Your actions and integrity will be unfairly questioned," he said on Twitter. "Be prepared, be strong. Duty. Honor. Country."

The 3 a.m. tweet came as the FBI conducts an independent investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and possible collusion with President Trump's campaign. That investigation is being led by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Holder said something similar he night FBI Director James Comey was fired in May.

"To the career men and women at DOJ/FBI: you know what the job entails and how to do it. Be strong and unafraid. Duty. Honor. Country," he tweeted on May 10, 2017.

Full Story

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Eric Holder to Justice Department, FBI staff: 'Be prepared, be strong'

Former Attorney General Eric Holder on Friday encouraged the "career men and women" at the Justice Department and FBI to "be strong" while they work in the Trump administration.

"Your actions and integrity will be unfairly questioned," he said on Twitter. "Be prepared, be strong. Duty. Honor. Country."

The 3 a.m. tweet came as the FBI conducts an independent investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and possible collusion with President Trump's campaign. That investigation is being led by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Holder said something similar he night FBI Director James Comey was fired in May.

"To the career men and women at DOJ/FBI: you know what the job entails and how to do it. Be strong and unafraid. Duty. Honor. Country," he tweeted on May 10, 2017.

Full Story

Translation: Be prepared to take the fall. Because it won't be me. Eric "Fast and Furious" Holder. lol Great example of Washington not prosecuting their own.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Translation: Be prepared to take the fall. Because it won't be me. Eric "Fast and Furious" Holder. lol Great example of Washington not prosecuting their own.

Deflect much?

You are in complete denial.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Deflect much?

You are in complete denial.

How is it deflecting when my argument is nothng will ever come of it just like nothing ever came of Eric "Arms Dealing" Holder. Him trying to be patriotic and moral is a complete fucking joke.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

This is alarming. He is holding campaign events at his hotel, which is in fact making him money.

At the very least he should use hotels that do not belong to him to at least avoid the look of doing something wrong.

Correct.

He's enriching himself through his office.

He plans on doing this the full 4 years of his presidency.. unprecedented and stupid.

At least he personally has to pay his attorney out of pocket because he's a criminal attorney and tax payers don't pay for criminal defense.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

How is it deflecting when my argument is nothng will ever come of it just like nothing ever came of Eric "Arms Dealing" Holder. Him trying to be patriotic and moral is a complete fucking joke.

More denial

Eric Holder wasn't under FBI criminal investigation or assigned special council outside the control of the DOJ.

More deflecting from you.

Denial & deflection is that all you got?

Deal with reality.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

This is alarming. He is holding campaign events at his hotel, which is in fact making him money.

At the very least he should use hotels that do not belong to him to at least avoid the look of doing something wrong.

So we should pay to have various hotels to be secured for weekend visits? In my early 20s I worked at a restaurant in a hotel that all Presidents stay at in my town. They prepared for at least a month for the visit. Everyone who worked within the hotel had to be screened. If the Secret Service didn't want whoever to work that day they didn't work.

[EddyTheDog]

It's 6am and I have not even had a coffee yet - I can't read all that...

So I am going to fart instead - that's better.....

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

More denial

Eric Holder wasn't under FBI criminal investigation or assigned special council outside the control of the DOJ.

More deflecting from you.

Denial & deflection is that all you got?

Deal with reality.

https://www.google.com/#q=fast+and+f...+investigation



Eric Holder slammed for 'Fast and Furious' obstruction - Washington Times

[crockett]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

So we should pay to have various hotels to be secured for weekend visits? In my early 20s I worked at a restaurant in a hotel that all Presidents stay at in my town. They prepared for at least a month for the visit. Everyone who worked within the hotel had to be screened. If the Secret Service didn't want whoever to work that day they didn't work.

You can't be this dumb can you? Did you just ignore all the details about Trump billing the secret service for "guarding him at HIS resorts"? He also charged the secret service rent at the Trump tower.. Did you also miss the countless reports of how much all these weekend golfing trips and vacations to FL cost?

Who the fuck do you think is paying for that? Why are you people so purposely ignorant?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by crockett

You can't be this dumb can you? Did you just ignore all the details about Trump billing the secret service for "guarding him at HIS resorts"? He also charged the secret service rent at the Trump tower..

Who the fuck do you think is paying for that? Why are you people so purposely ignorant?

Mar-a-Lago is a private residence and resort. It was all originally Trumps private residence but later turned into a resort where they have separate private residential quarters. They just have to secure that location. Just like they would any other Presidents private residence. You don't think Bush's ranch was secured? Did you have a problem with him going there? It still is BTW. We never had to worry about Obama going home. He didn't want to go back to that gang banging shit hole and still doesn't. Are you aware we spent millions of dollars building a wall around his current temporary DC rental a donor owns?

As far as the Secret Service paying for office space what else would you prefer? Should they setup down the street?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Mar-a-Lago is a private residence and resort. It was all originally Trumps private residence but later turned into a resort where they have separate private residential quarters. They just have to secure that location. Just like they would any other Presidents private residence. You don't think Bush's ranch was secured? Did you have a problem with him going there? It still is BTW. We never had to worry about Obama going home. He didn't want to go back to that gang banging shit hole and still doesn't. Are you aware they spent millions of dollars building a wall around his current temporary DC rental a donor owns?

As far as the Secret Service paying for office space what else would you prefer? Should they setup down the street?

Bush didn't go to his ranch every fucking weekend... Obama didn't go to Hawaii every fucking weekend.. Neither charged admission for people to visit them while on their get always...

Has Trump even spent a single weekend in the fucking WH? Every time he goes some where on a "weekend trip" which is "always" Fri-Sun" it cost taxes payers millions.. Not only is he costing us money he's using it as a way to enrich himself by selling access to members of his clubs..

Quit making excuses...

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by crockett

Bush didn't go to his ranch every fucking weekend... Obama didn't go to Hawaii every fucking weekend..

Has Trump even spent a single weekend in the fucking WH? Every time he goes some where on a "weekend trip" which is "always" Fri-Sun" it cost taxes payers millions...

No, both of them were living the life of billionaires traveling the World on a private jet. Trump's already been there, done that, so he goes home. Do you really think they hung out at the White House all weekend?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

https://www.google.com/#q=fast+and+f...+investigation



Eric Holder slammed for 'Fast and Furious' obstruction - Washington Times

Deflection again.

You do know the thread topic is Trump right?

You haven't made one post on topic about the shit storm Trump and his team are in.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Mar-a-Lago is a private residence and resort. It was all originally Trumps private residence but later turned into a resort where they have separate private residential quarters. They just have to secure that location. Just like they would any other Presidents private residence.

You must be high.

Mar-a-Largo is not a private residence.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Deflection again.

You do know the thread topic is Trump right?

You haven't made one post on topic about the shit storm Trump and his team are in.

Ya'll need to hurry up with your shit storm because the suspense is getting old.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You must be high.

Mar-a-Largo is not a private residence.

In 1985, Mar-a-Lago was purchased by businessman Donald Trump[7] and his then-wife Ivana Trump was put in charge of running the property.[8] The Trump family maintains private quarters in a separate, closed-off area of the house and grounds,[9] and since becoming President, Trump has frequently stayed there,[10] referring to it as his "Southern White House". It is the 20th largest mansion in the United States

In the early 1990s, Trump faced financial difficulties. While negotiating with his bankers, he promised to divide Mar-a-Lago into smaller properties, alarming Palm Beach residents; the city council rejected his plan to do so. Trump instead turned the estate into a private club

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Get over yourself. You have no moral high ground here. You're beating a dead horse. Nothing will ever come of it.

Holy shit you're supporting a guy that lost a federal class action consumer fraud lawsuit and paid out $25,000,000 to people he ripped off. Not to mention the multiple racial descrimination lawsuits he lost , oh and the antitrust lawsuit he list and had to pay out $750,000 to stay out of jail. And he's now under federal criminal investigation by the FBI , with a proven track record of scamming people and you act like it's all fake. It's not fake you dope wake up!

You are defending scum with a legal rapsheet of losses over decades.

He's fucking the American people like he fucked the consumers and everyone else and you don't care because he's a white nationalist so he could shoot and kill a man and you'd still vote for him/ support him. ing

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Holy shit you're supporting a guy that lost a federal class action consumer fraud lawsuit and paid out $25,000,000 from people he ripped off. Not to mention the multiple racial descrimination lawsuits he lost , oh and the antitrust lawsuit he list and had to pay out $750,000 to stay out of jail.

You are defending scum with a legal rapsheet of losses over decades.

He's fucking the American people like he fucked the consumers and everyone else and you don't care because he's a white nationalist so he could shoot and kill a man and you'd still vote for him/ support him. ing

Talk about deflection.

I've said numerous times I don't like Trump. But I love what it's all done to you liberals. I can only imagine the panty wads if an actual independent ever made it in.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Talk about deflection.

I've said numerous times I don't like Trump. But I love what it's all done to you liberals. I can only imagine the panty wads if an actual independent ever made it in.

Right anyone against Trump is a big bad liberal wake up you dope!

You like him breaking the law because it pisses off "liberals". You're definitely a party before country guy, fuck America and Fuck the liberals. Putin adores people like you, you're his base

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You're definitely a party before country guy, fuck America and Fuck the liberals Putin adores people like you.

Wrong again. I've never been much of a "affiliate" of any sort. Hell I was even kicked out of boy scouts as a child for not following the "group mentality" I kinda gave up after that. I just do me. They say power is greater in numbers. I say problems are greater in numbers.