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Old 03-23-2015, 06:50 AM   #1
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To carb or not to carb?

Hey people! I'd like to know if you guys eat carbs for breakfast. Or do you eat anything at all? It's my way of getting to know people :D
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i get up at 5:45 i break fast around noon and eat a proper proportion of carbs with that meal.
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I eat very limited Carbs through the day and then a touch more on weekends. Keeps my weight down and I also hit the gym or some sort of workout as often as I can.
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I do intermittent fasting, so my first meal is around 12 or 1...

I've been trying to get keto adapted for the last couple of weeks, which basically means switching your primary fuel source from carbs to stored fat. I'm doing a carb re-feed today, but on most days I've been doing about 50g at most, and upping my intake of good fats. I drink about 3 tablespoons of olive oil and have grass fed butter and coconut oil to supplement the fat intake. Contrary to popular belief, fat does not make you fat, carbs do...but don't expect the food industry to tell you that.

Feel like crap now, but supposedly once the body gets into nutritional ketosis I'll feel great. I do know that the state I'm trying to get into makes more sense for getting rid of body fat. Early man wasn't munching on carbs all day for energy. They used stored body fat as an energy source to get them between fasts. That's what your fat is there for.
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yes, i eat carbs for breakfast. in small portions, anything's possible
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It's not bad to eat carbs, but I would just say try not to center every meal around them...and avoid bread. It's tough for me to eat with friends and family, because carbs are the focal point of everything they shovel down their gullets. And their bodies show it.
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I eat more or less full scale meal as breakfast. It somewhat resembles food pie chart. I leave fancy trend diets for others.


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Eat a carb straight up!

Oh wait; wrong thread.

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Hey people! I'd like to know if you guys eat carbs for breakfast. Or do you eat anything at all? It's my way of getting to know people :D
start hitting the gym and then eat whatever you want (in moderation)...
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I'v been going to a weight loss class. They have a nutritionist that runs it. Keeping everything in mind, lower carbs means lower calories. Replacing pasta with wheat pasta. I even started making things with ground turkey. Made some enchilada's with ground turkey and used plain greek yogurt instead of sour cream. Tasted really good. I eat salad everyday, vinaigrette dressings. Lost 20 lbs last month. Goal is 40 lbs before end of july when I'm getting married.
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I do intermittent fasting, so my first meal is around 12 or 1...

I've been trying to get keto adapted for the last couple of weeks, which basically means switching your primary fuel source from carbs to stored fat. I'm doing a carb re-feed today, but on most days I've been doing about 50g at most, and upping my intake of good fats. I drink about 3 tablespoons of olive oil and have grass fed butter and coconut oil to supplement the fat intake. Contrary to popular belief, fat does not make you fat, carbs do...but don't expect the food industry to tell you that.

Feel like crap now, but supposedly once the body gets into nutritional ketosis I'll feel great. I do know that the state I'm trying to get into makes more sense for getting rid of body fat. Early man wasn't munching on carbs all day for energy. They used stored body fat as an energy source to get them between fasts. That's what your fat is there for.
Amen to this.

I've done keto on and off for about 3 years now, been on about 95% for the past year. While I have cheat meals on occasion, I really try to keep it on occasion. I try to keep it down under 40g of carbs because anything over makes me feel like absolute garbage. As in water retaining, joint aching garbage. People were trying to make me feel bad this past weekend for not eating some cake at a wedding this past weekend (hubby said it was very underwhelming tasting). How can I feel bad by not feeling bad? Let others eat cake, I'll take that cheese platter everyone is avoiding due to "too high fat".

Btw, if you're feeling like crap, up your salt intake, magnesium and potassium. I found out that you can completely avoid keto flu/feeling bad during the month adaption period by maintaining those electrolytes. /r/keto is the best subreddit ever.
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Amen to this.

I've done keto on and off for about 3 years now, been on about 95% for the past year. While I have cheat meals on occasion, I really try to keep it on occasion. I try to keep it down under 40g of carbs because anything over makes me feel like absolute garbage. As in water retaining, joint aching garbage. People were trying to make me feel bad this past weekend for not eating some cake at a wedding this past weekend (hubby said it was very underwhelming tasting). How can I feel bad by not feeling bad? Let others eat cake, I'll take that cheese platter everyone is avoiding due to "too high fat".

Btw, if you're feeling like crap, up your salt intake, magnesium and potassium. I found out that you can completely avoid keto flu/feeling bad during the month adaption period by maintaining those electrolytes. /r/keto is the best subreddit ever.
why are you on (and off) keto?
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I do intermittent fasting, so my first meal is around 12 or 1...

I've been trying to get keto adapted for the last couple of weeks, which basically means switching your primary fuel source from carbs to stored fat. I'm doing a carb re-feed today, but on most days I've been doing about 50g at most, and upping my intake of good fats. I drink about 3 tablespoons of olive oil and have grass fed butter and coconut oil to supplement the fat intake. Contrary to popular belief, fat does not make you fat, carbs do...but don't expect the food industry to tell you that.

Feel like crap now, but supposedly once the body gets into nutritional ketosis I'll feel great. I do know that the state I'm trying to get into makes more sense for getting rid of body fat. Early man wasn't munching on carbs all day for energy. They used stored body fat as an energy source to get them between fasts. That's what your fat is there for.

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Some carbs turn to glucose faster -- blood sugar.
So, complex carbs or simple carbs -- there is a difference.
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Fuel your body for what you are using it for.
Breaking a fast (breakfast) - Carbs
Preworkout - carbs
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+ carbs are fun man! a lot of enjoyment in eating delicious carbs. mmmmmmmmm

gonna eat a toasted bagel with cream cheese bacon onions and tomato in about 2 hours.

oh and some fresh pear!

carbs are also a good excuse to be more active. want to justify some delicious carbs? go for a bike ride.

but again, proper proportions and balanced overall eating are key.
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why are you on (and off) keto?
Probably the same reason most people go on and off. Get started and then you have carbs and you allow yourself to have another thing with carbs because you've already ruined the day and pretty soon that slides into a month or three.

Been pretty diligent the past 6 months or so because I'm just done feeling like crap. And apparently I'm a she bitch when carbs are in my diet and can't eat on time.
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+ carbs are fun man! a lot of enjoyment in eating delicious carbs. mmmmmmmmm

gonna eat a toasted bagel with cream cheese bacon onions and tomato in about 2 hours.

oh and some fresh pear!

carbs are also a good excuse to be more active. want to justify some delicious carbs? go for a bike ride.

but again, proper proportions and balanced overall eating are key.
+2 on this....can pretty much eat whatever you want when youre active. 420G of carbs a day here and single digit BF %
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I do intermittent fasting, so my first meal is around 12 or 1...

I've been trying to get keto adapted for the last couple of weeks, which basically means switching your primary fuel source from carbs to stored fat. I'm doing a carb re-feed today, but on most days I've been doing about 50g at most, and upping my intake of good fats. I drink about 3 tablespoons of olive oil and have grass fed butter and coconut oil to supplement the fat intake. Contrary to popular belief, fat does not make you fat, carbs do...but don't expect the food industry to tell you that.

Feel like crap now, but supposedly once the body gets into nutritional ketosis I'll feel great. I do know that the state I'm trying to get into makes more sense for getting rid of body fat. Early man wasn't munching on carbs all day for energy. They used stored body fat as an energy source to get them between fasts. That's what your fat is there for.
This is by far the most efficient way to burn fat, no doubt. I'm down about 30 since mid january and at a much more optimal weight. I think once fat loss is no longer crucial keeping things under 100 grams is pretty safe for maintenance, granted you are getting at least minimal exercise anyway. Oh and yeah, it's only the first time through that you have those side effects.. hit me like a brick wall the first time, but hasn't since.

As for carbs in the mornings? never.. spiking insulin first thing in the morning will make you starving the rest of the day and will start this snowball effect every day you do it. People use the excuse that they need energy in the mornings, which makes sense, but if i can do triathlons or finish a marathon without breakfast i'm pretty sure you can handle doing your day to day by waiting until later in the day to get those carbs in. ;)
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+2 on this....can pretty much eat whatever you want when youre active. 420G of carbs a day here and single digit BF %
that's incomplete.. that works once when you are low bodyfat to begin with, you can't exercise yourself down to single digits eating tonnes of carbs if you are overweight in the first place. believe me i've tried.. heh Once you are down you can have a lot of fun doing back loading with them though, no doubt.
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that's incomplete.. that works once when you are low bodyfat to begin with, you can't exercise yourself down to single digits eating tonnes of carbs if you are overweight in the first place. believe me i've tried.. heh Once you are down you can have a lot of fun doing back loading with them though, no doubt.
Yea I get what youre saying but I cut from 12-8% relatively quickly all while eating in excess of 320-360G carbs depending on workout days. Thats a decent amount of weight to lose.
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Probably the same reason most people go on and off. Get started and then you have carbs and you allow yourself to have another thing with carbs because you've already ruined the day and pretty soon that slides into a month or three.

Been pretty diligent the past 6 months or so because I'm just done feeling like crap. And apparently I'm a she bitch when carbs are in my diet and can't eat on time.
i see. i didn't mean to imply you weren't being consistent. keto is very difficult to maintain long term. I was more curious as to what your goal is in embracing keto to begin with?

for losing fat or?
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that's incomplete.. that works once when you are low bodyfat to begin with, you can't exercise yourself down to single digits eating tonnes of carbs if you are overweight in the first place. believe me i've tried.. heh Once you are down you can have a lot of fun doing back loading with them though, no doubt.
i exercised down to single digit bf eating tons of carbs

initially using p90x diet protocols, which call for A LOT of carbs to handle the intense exercise. the flab came off quickly.

then i moved to my own activity plans.
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i see. i didn't mean to imply you weren't being consistent. keto is very difficult to maintain long term. I was more curious as to what your goal is in embracing keto to begin with?

for losing fat or?
Actually, it's not as difficult as people think it is (as long as you like cooking and baking since the regular keto fair can get pretty boring). Once you honestly figure out you're really not missing anything by not having that cake, or those fries, etc, it's much easier.

And my goal is simply feeling good. On a low fat, high carb diet I pack on the water weight like no man's business. About 5kg to be exact. My joints ache from the inflammation and I'm ruled by my eating schedule. If lunch is regularly at 12pm (which is lunch break during work days) and I don't get food in me by 12:15, you DO NOT want to be around me.

However, with keto (and 18/6 IF), there's no water weight, no hunger, and my blood sugar is stable. Mealtime is usually at 6pm but if it's at 7? No worries. Oh, and I actually sleep better and am way more energized. And there's absolutely no after dinner dips.
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Although if you eat red meat to fuel your ketosis, you are inflammated from the meat. You are of course inflammated from the red meat in any diet, but the more, the more you eat it.

You really do something wrong if you get serious problems from regular recommended diet, although I don't know what US government recommends, but in generally. Fries are not recommended by the way.
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Actually, it's not as difficult as people think it is (as long as you like cooking and baking since the regular keto fair can get pretty boring). Once you honestly figure out you're really not missing anything by not having that cake, or those fries, etc, it's much easier.

And my goal is simply feeling good. On a low fat, high carb diet I pack on the water weight like no man's business. About 5kg to be exact. My joints ache from the inflammation and I'm ruled by my eating schedule. If lunch is regularly at 12pm (which is lunch break during work days) and I don't get food in me by 12:15, you DO NOT want to be around me.

However, with keto (and 18/6 IF), there's no water weight, no hunger, and my blood sugar is stable. Mealtime is usually at 6pm but if it's at 7? No worries. Oh, and I actually sleep better and am way more energized. And there's absolutely no after dinner dips.
i see. i was on keto diet for ~1 year. after i lost weight i wanted to use it to control my diabetes (insulin injection are based on a sliding scale determined by carb intake).
it was not fun or easy for several reasons, the big one being it was very easy to go out of keto, i needed to stay under ~20g/day if i recollect right, and getting back into keto is not pleasant for me. the social restrictions are not easy either, i don't like denying things that i enjoy.

after that was when i discovered IF. it's much easier for me to not eat for ~16 hours a day and it's also a good way to control blood sugars.

i'm glad keto is working for you, different strokes and all, consciously choosing your lifestyle is the most important thing.
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Although if you eat red meat to fuel your ketosis, you are inflammated from the meat. You are of course inflammated from the red meat in any diet, but the more, the more you eat it.

You really do something wrong if you get serious problems from regular recommended diet, although I don't know what US government recommends, but in generally.
Don't actually eat a whole lot of red meat. A lot of chicken and fish. And, type 2 runs in my family no matter the diet or weight. It seemed to skip me, thankfully, but I've read that people who have this run in their family tend to just do better on low carb. For me, the sweet spot it right at 35g a day.


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i see. i was on keto diet for ~1 year. after i lost weight i wanted to use it to control my diabetes (insulin injection are based on a sliding scale determined by carb intake).
it was not fun or easy for several reasons, the big one being it was very easy to go out of keto, i needed to stay under ~20g/day if i recollect right, and getting back into keto is not pleasant for me. the social restrictions are not easy either, i don't like denying things that i enjoy.

after that was when i discovered IF. it's much easier for me to not eat for ~16 hours a day and it's also a good way to control blood sugars.

i'm glad keto is working for you, different strokes and all, consciously choosing your lifestyle is the most important thing.
To stay in keto, most people can get away with under 50g of carbs. I can stay in in under 50, but 35 seems to be the sweet spot for me personally. I can still go over 50 and stay in, but I just don't feel as good.

The social restrictions have been the hardest mental block and the reason for sliding off over and over. But, I've figured out it's not the end of the world. I've figured out how to just ask for a cup of whipped cream while everyone else is eating ice cream (I prefer the whipped cream since most places serve it unsweetened and honestly, ice cream is WAY too sweet these days) or a cheese platter. Drinking isn't a big deal either since I don't drink a lot.
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I tried Keto even with added coconut oil I just couldn't get enough calories in even though I'm lean, felt like shit and fidgety, slightly anxious, like when you've had too much coffee. There has to be a balance between eating for long term health and being able to enjoy your meals and get on with your life. Since I added potatoes and rice as well as some fruits ( I still avoid pasta and bread) I feel much better.
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Don't actually eat a whole lot of red meat. A lot of chicken and fish. And, type 2 runs in my family no matter the diet or weight. It seemed to skip me, thankfully, but I've read that people who have this run in their family tend to just do better on low carb. For me, the sweet spot it right at 35g a day.




To stay in keto, most people can get away with under 50g of carbs. I can stay in in under 50, but 35 seems to be the sweet spot for me personally. I can still go over 50 and stay in, but I just don't feel as good.

The social restrictions have been the hardest mental block and the reason for sliding off over and over. But, I've figured out it's not the end of the world. I've figured out how to just ask for a cup of whipped cream while everyone else is eating ice cream (I prefer the whipped cream since most places serve it unsweetened and honestly, ice cream is WAY too sweet these days) or a cheese platter. Drinking isn't a big deal either since I don't drink a lot.
you got me thinking, being type 1 for as long as i have been i had already been denying myself certain foods and such for decades. i can't remember the last time i ate cake, i never eat confections. i do eat chocolates but nothing made up in a big sugary processed ordeal. in hindsight, i think the keto restrictions were just too much when combined with that and prolly a big reason why i didn't take to it, in addition to needing to stay super low on the carbs to stay in.
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i get up at 5:45 i break fast around noon and eat a proper proportion of carbs with that meal.
Almost the exact same as this. I wake up at 5:30am, hit the gym at 6:10. Protein shake and snack (usually cashews) at 11am, big meal around 1pm, then salad with some eggs or chicken and a piece of fruit at 6:30pm.
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Yea I get what youre saying but I cut from 12-8% relatively quickly all while eating in excess of 320-360G carbs depending on workout days. Thats a decent amount of weight to lose.
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i exercised down to single digit bf eating tons of carbs

initially using p90x diet protocols, which call for A LOT of carbs to handle the intense exercise. the flab came off quickly.

then i moved to my own activity plans.
Yes, I understand why and how you guys can do that, but even at 12% bodyfat that is lower than most people over 25 get to ever--even for those who exercise often. If someone is up to 25-30%, which is par for the course for someone just starting out, and they are consuming 400g a day no amount of exercise will be enough..

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I tried Keto even with added coconut oil I just couldn't get enough calories in even though I'm lean, felt like shit and fidgety, slightly anxious, like when you've had too much coffee. There has to be a balance between eating for long term health and being able to enjoy your meals and get on with your life. Since I added potatoes and rice as well as some fruits ( I still avoid pasta and bread) I feel much better.
those are just symptoms you get in the very beginning, they go away completely if you eat properly. If you don't know how to cook then yeah, it could be very unenjoyable, but if you are committed to eating healthier then learning to cook is a must regardless. There is nothing unhealthy about this diet so you lost me mentioning long term health..
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I do fasted cardio most mornings (no food till after I do at least 30 minutes of cardio).

For breakfast I normally eat egg whites (6 eggs) and oat meal (30 grams of carbs)

I try to keep my carbs low (150 grams per day) and I dont eat carbs after 6pm.

I try to eat carbs that are low or medium on the glycemic index (wont raise your blood glucose as much)


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Im going to have to check out some of that ezekiel bread. Good enuff for Jesus, good enuff for me. Plus, Jesus was ripped.

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Yes well tell you what hippies: on your deathbed you will wish you had that muffin or piece of cake, not another smoothie or ground turkey whatever.

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Yes well tell you what hippies: on your deathbed you will wish you had that muffin or piece of cake, not another smoothie or ground turkey whatever.

Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we may die. </thread>
It was not all that long ago I thought the same way you do. Then I discovered how amazing it feels to be fit and in great shape.

Plus eating all that shit food - full of fats / carbs / deep fried / sugars / blah blah blah makes you feel lethargic / absolute shit.
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It was not all that long ago I thought the same way you do. Then I discovered how amazing it feels to be fit and in great shape.
You couldn't have said it better. All my life I have been in decent shape, got out of shape around 22 as I stopped playing soccer as much but kept up my unhealthy eating habits. Skip ahead to 27 and I was somehow 237lbs. I didn't look huge but I was overweight. I lost 52lbs and got back to the shape I was when I was 20. I feel so much better when I'm working out and in decent shape than I ever did when I was overweight and eating cupcakes at night
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It was not all that long ago I thought the same way you do. Then I discovered how amazing it feels to be fit and in great shape.

Plus eating all that shit food - full of fats / carbs / deep fried / sugars / blah blah blah makes you feel lethargic / absolute shit.
No I agree, I was just having fun because some ppl can take healthy "living" too far. I believe in moderation. If I have a brownie for dessert then you damn well know I had a healthy egg white breakfast, healthy salad for lunch, another salad for dinner and lean protein. THEN the brownie. LOL And not every day, either.

The sad thing? Some people actually enjoy kale as much as I enjoy brownies. LOL

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You couldn't have said it better. All my life I have been in decent shape, got out of shape around 22 as I stopped playing soccer as much but kept up my unhealthy eating habits. Skip ahead to 27 and I was somehow 237lbs. I didn't look huge but I was overweight. I lost 52lbs and got back to the shape I was when I was 20. I feel so much better when I'm working out and in decent shape than I ever did when I was overweight and eating cupcakes at night
True, but there's nothing better than a late night cupcake to sooth your soul. Especially after a long night of Univision Telenovellas marathon.

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those are just symptoms you get in the very beginning, they go away completely if you eat properly. If you don't know how to cook then yeah, it could be very unenjoyable, but if you are committed to eating healthier then learning to cook is a must regardless. There is nothing unhealthy about this diet so you lost me mentioning long term health..
Vegetarian, Paleo, Keto.... whatever the diet people tell you how great they feel... if you don't it's because you're not doing it right or initial detox flu like symptoms... I've come to the conclusion that they get a feel good factor from thinking they are doing the right thing, and get so engrossed in all the literature and website preaching in favor of that diet they get stuck in a positive reinforcement loop.

I wake up drink water and go for a swim, go to the gym later when the sun comes down. If I want to get into single digit bf sure Keto is good over longer ketones don't give me the fuel I need.

Thanks for the patronizing "if you don't know how to cook.." but I've eaten healthy all my life, hate cakes and sweet food in general.


Edit: I also never said keto was unhealthy I said you have to strike a balance between healthy and enjoyment.
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You couldn't have said it better. All my life I have been in decent shape, got out of shape around 22 as I stopped playing soccer as much but kept up my unhealthy eating habits. Skip ahead to 27 and I was somehow 237lbs. I didn't look huge but I was overweight. I lost 52lbs and got back to the shape I was when I was 20. I feel so much better when I'm working out and in decent shape than I ever did when I was overweight and eating cupcakes at night
Absolute agree! After and during a workout whether it is a run / weights / whatever, you just feel fanbaloodtastic!

Congrats on the weightloss, I lost similar amount too and didn't look like a fat bastard, was around 280lb (127kg) now 220 and never felt better.

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No I agree, I was just having fun because some ppl can take healthy "living" too far. I believe in moderation. If I have a brownie for dessert then you damn well know I had a healthy egg white breakfast, healthy salad for lunch, another salad for dinner and lean protein. THEN the brownie. LOL And not every day, either.

The sad thing? Some people actually enjoy kale as much as I enjoy brownies. LOL
No one enjoys kale except maybe L-Pink. Agreed re taking things too far, however eating healthy doesn't have to mean not enjoying your food or having it taste great!
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I love these threads! How many of you guys have reached your weight loss/gain goal and maintained your weight consistently. That's the hard part!
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I love these threads! How many of you guys have reached your weight loss/gain goal and maintained your weight consistently. That's the hard part!
I've maintained my weight at a lean 185 lbs for a long time.

Always falling back on eating balanced.. protein, a portion of carbs and vegetables.

Intermittent Fasting is also good, technically more of an eating pattern than a diet though.

A bodybuilder like you would probably tell me to push on and make some gains but I feel best at this weight, or maybe I'm just lazy at the gym
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I fluctuate based on the seasons. Here in the northeast we get some brutal winters so my weight goes up ten pounds, then down ten during spring/summer. Being a Webmaster doesn't help either with all those long hours at the keyboard. So ANY healthy living or exercise is a great thing.
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Amen to this.

I've done keto on and off for about 3 years now, been on about 95% for the past year. While I have cheat meals on occasion, I really try to keep it on occasion. I try to keep it down under 40g of carbs because anything over makes me feel like absolute garbage. As in water retaining, joint aching garbage. People were trying to make me feel bad this past weekend for not eating some cake at a wedding this past weekend (hubby said it was very underwhelming tasting). How can I feel bad by not feeling bad? Let others eat cake, I'll take that cheese platter everyone is avoiding due to "too high fat".

Btw, if you're feeling like crap, up your salt intake, magnesium and potassium. I found out that you can completely avoid keto flu/feeling bad during the month adaption period by maintaining those electrolytes. /r/keto is the best subreddit ever.
I have a glass of salt water every day and it helps.
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Also ditch the fruits and salads for a while. Especially the fruits. its 100% sugar and thats bad. ONce you start to hit and maintain the target area of weight and fitness then you start to add back in the carbs fruits etc.
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I'm not so sure about the needing carbs for energy thing. I go to the gym on an empty stomach at around 12 noon, and do heavy bench press and deadlift -- and hit my personal best sometimes. This is without food in my stomach for 18 hours.

I've been doing this for a year, even before starting the ketosis thing -- which I have done here and there for the last few months, but only now am I getting serious about it.
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