Where was Senator Ted Cruz born?

[Rochard]

Senator Ted Cruz just announced he is running for President. He was born in Canada.

Don't you have to be physically born in the United States to be President?

[Wizzo]

You have to be a natural born citizen and since his Mom was American he is but will give them something to debate on the news channels for a few months since it's a year and half away from the election...lol

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

You have to be a natural born citizen and since his Mom was American he is but will give them something to debate on the news channels for a few months since it's a year and half away from the election...lol

I get that. But doesn't that make the entire Obama Birther Movement invalid? Let's just say Obama was not born in the US.... Even if that was true his mother was American, which meant Obama boy would have been entitled to US citizenship at birth which.... Means Obama would have qualified for US President no matter what.

I'm sorry, I think a natural born citizen means you are physically born in the United States. Not in Canada, and not on a military base in a Panama.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I get that. But doesn't that make the entire Obama Birther Movement invalid? Let's just say Obama was not born in the US.... Even if that was true his mother was American, which meant Obama boy would have been entitled to US citizenship at birth which.... Means Obama would have qualified for US President no matter what.

I'm sorry, I think a natural born citizen means you are physically born in the United States. Not in Canada, and not on a military base in a Panama.

Natural means something you do not get. It goes much deeper. It has nothing to do with tits.

[L-Pink]

"be a natural born U.S. citizen. Someone may be born abroad, but only if both parents were citizens of the United States. The only exception to this was for those around at the time the Constitution was adopted. Their requirement was that they had to be a citizen when the Constitution was adopted."

[Vendzilla]

Had the same conversation when McCain ran

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

"be a natural born U.S. citizen. Someone may be born abroad, but only if both parents were citizens of the United States. The only exception to this was for those around at the time the Constitution was adopted. Their requirement was that they had to be a citizen when the Constitution was adopted."

So someone who was born in Canada can become president of the United States?

HUH?

What kind of nonsense is that?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Had the same conversation when McCain ran

And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.

[baddog]

Sorry, he is an American citizen by birth.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So someone who was born in Canada can become president of the United States?

HUH?

What kind of nonsense is that?

The source I first quoted said "both" parents

What are the Requirements to Become US President?


The below source says "one parent"

Requirements to Become President of the United States

[Fat Panda]

cruz is a radical right wing fascist who was born in kanada, went to harvard and has spent his entire life working in government.

typical gop, anti-gov freeloading phony

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.

"one must live in the United States for at least 14 years to be president, in addition to being a natural-born citizen"

"The Constitution is vague on this point. For example, it does not make clear whether those 14 years need to be consecutive or what the precise definition of residency is. So far, however, this requirement has not been challenged"


.

[baddog]

Citizenship Through Parents | USCIS

Does the President Have to Be Born On U.S. Soil?

[TheSquealer]

Rochard is like Rainman without the math.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So someone who was born in Canada can become president of the United States?

HUH?

What kind of nonsense is that?

the whole thing that a person must be born in america, is anti-american. it was fine in 1789. but nowadays its obsolete, especially since 100% of white peoples ancestors are not from america anyway. the age requirement is obsolete too. so is the 2nd amendment. militias havent provided the national defense for over 200 years now. amendment 3? OMG what a fossil.

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.

No one in America is going to vote for someone that spent most of their life in Iran so you are probably safe.

[arock10]

Originally Posted by Fat Panda

cruz is a radical right wing fascist who was born in kanada, went to harvard and has spent his entire life working in government.

typical gop, anti-gov freeloading phony

But since he isn't black it's ok

[Rochard]

You are all missing my point.

The birther movement claimed that Obama wasn't legally able to become President because he wasn't born in the United States. Assuming for a moment that this is true, he would still legally be able to become President of the United States because he was in fact - no matter what - a US citizen.

Shouldn't everyone who ever believed in the birther movement believe that Cruz cannot run for President?

We should start with Vendzilla.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You are all missing my point.

The birther movement claimed that Obama wasn't legally able to become President because he wasn't born in the United States. Assuming for a moment that this is true, he would still legally be able to become President of the United States because he was in fact - no matter what - a US citizen.

Shouldn't everyone who ever believed in the birther movement believe that Cruz cannot run for President?

We should start with Vendzilla.

you don't think anti-republitards are going to latch on to this and make it an issue?

[crockett]

Ted Cruz.. yet another fucking shithead Canada has imported.


#BanCanada

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You are all missing my point.

The birther movement claimed that Obama wasn't legally able to become President because he wasn't born in the United States. Assuming for a moment that this is true, he would still legally be able to become President of the United States because he was in fact - no matter what - a US citizen.

Shouldn't everyone who ever believed in the birther movement believe that Cruz cannot run for President?

We should start with Vendzilla.

the main difference being obama's father was not a US citizen.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You are all missing my point.

The birther movement claimed that Obama wasn't legally able to become President because he wasn't born in the United States. Assuming for a moment that this is true, he would still legally be able to become President of the United States because he was in fact - no matter what - a US citizen.

Shouldn't everyone who ever believed in the birther movement believe that Cruz cannot run for President?

We should start with Vendzilla.

Dosn't matter, as soon as he became president, nothing can be done about it

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

so is the 2nd amendment. militias havent provided the national defense for over 200 years now.

Wrong

Supreme court ruled on that The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the main difference being obama's father was not a US citizen.

Cruz's father was from Cuba

[dyna mo]

Cruz? sounds mexican, so it could be worse.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the main difference being obama's father was not a US citizen.

But his mother was.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Cruz? sounds mexican, so it could be worse.

Irish Cuban born in Canada living in Texas.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Dosn't matter, as soon as he became president, nothing can be done about it

For once we agree - It doesn't matter. Even if he was born outside of the US, his mother being an American citizen made him a natural born citizen with rights to American citizenship upon birth.

Even if the birther movement was right, he should legally would be able to run for President.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.

I think is McCain's case, it was a good call, he was born on a military base and served in the military.
But have to agree with you, if you spent your life somewhere else, you don't know the people.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

the whole thing that a person must be born in america, is anti-american. it was fine in 1789. but nowadays its obsolete, especially since 100% of white peoples ancestors are not from america anyway. the age requirement is obsolete too. so is the 2nd amendment. militias havent provided the national defense for over 200 years now. amendment 3? OMG what a fossil.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Irish Cuban born in Canada living in Texas.

like a trendy shitty fusion restaurant!

[MaDalton]

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by Rochard

And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.

You are lucky, the rats over here think that as soon as someone gets off the plane at Gatwick, they automatically become British!

[crockett]

Funny thing.. A Lawyer in Az whom has the same name owns TedCruz.com

Seems he like to troll the politician.

[UniqueD]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the main difference being obama's father was not a US citizen.

Neither was Cruz's father. He didn't become a naturalized citizen until 2005.

[kane]

What is more interesting to me is that Cruz basically has exactly the same experience an credentials that Obama had when he ran. With those right wing pundits that went after Obama's lack of experience give Cruz the same treatment?

[directfiesta]

I am so proud :at last a Canadian citizen ( well x ) will be POTUS

[bronco67]

I was listening to some soundbytes from this tool earlier on the news. This lunatic will never make it.

If he does, he'll win the president with the most punchable face ever award.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So someone who was born in Canada can become president of the United States?

HUH?

What kind of nonsense is that?

He could be born in Guatemala for all I care. What I do care about is him being an ignorant fuckwad Tea Party idiot. And he is.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by arock10

But since he isn't black it's ok

LOL, it is the exact opposite. He did not attact Obama for that because he was black. He attacked cruz for that because he was not black. So it is the exact opposite of what you claim.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Cruz? sounds mexican, so it could be worse.

First Hussein, then Cruz.... It is a pity when you think of it.

[dyna mo]

he's the perfect distraction from the real candidate.

well played republitards.

[kane]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

he's the perfect distraction from the real candidate.

well played republitards.

Who is the real candidate?

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by kane

Who is the real candidate?

there seems to be only one that isn't a religious nutcase and/or any other form of nutcase and doesn't seem to have too many skeletons in his closet - Jeb Bush

but will he make it through the primaries without scaring off the normal folks?

because only with the white religious, conservative people, no one will win an election nowadays

[kane]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

there seems to be only one that isn't a religious nutcase and/or any other form of nutcase and doesn't seem to have too many skeletons in his closet - Jeb Bush

but will he make it through the primaries without scaring off the normal folks?

because only with the white religious, conservative people, no one will win an election nowadays

At the moment there seems to be no real strong republican candidate. Cruz it too batshit crazy to appeal to the more moderates, Bush has the family name issue and at this point none of them seem to have a plan for trying to draw in minority and younger voters.

But it is early. You never know who may enter the race or what could happen.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by kane

What is more interesting to me is that Cruz basically has exactly the same experience an credentials that Obama had when he ran. With those right wing pundits that went after Obama's lack of experience give Cruz the same treatment?

This is what I'm saying. Why hasn't the birther movement come alive and why aren't they screaming from the top of their mountain tops about how Cruz wasn't born in the United States?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by kane

At the moment there seems to be no real strong republican candidate. Cruz it too batshit crazy to appeal to the more moderates, Bush has the family name issue and at this point none of them seem to have a plan for trying to draw in minority and younger voters.

But it is early. You never know who may enter the race or what could happen.

This is my take on the Republican situation too. I don't see a clear, strong front runner.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by kane

Who is the real candidate?

for quite a while i was thinking it's Jeb. Now i'm not sure but i would expect the republitard party must have a favorite by now that the political machines are being primed right? i now rove has been on the circuit for a bit now, so things are ramping up. certainly some of these candidates are falling on their swords so to speak to muddy things up, etc.

certainly they have at least an outline of an agenda by now.

and wouldn't you agree cruz is an ideal candidate to do that? an irish catholic cuban canadian texan conservative PUSA? not a chance.

[MaDalton]

I liked Jon Huntsman (besides him being a mormon). But he seemed to be a reasonable, quite liberal person with good international experience.

that's probably why he'll never get far in the Republican Party

edit - just found this - says it all

Jon Huntsman says no thanks to 2016 run - Anna Palmer - POLITICO.com

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by kane

At the moment there seems to be no real strong republican candidate. Cruz it too batshit crazy to appeal to the more moderates, Bush has the family name issue and at this point none of them seem to have a plan for trying to draw in minority and younger voters.

But it is early. You never know who may enter the race or what could happen.

Rand Paul is going after both minority and younger voters very actively.

Bush has no shot with his amnesty and common core positions.