Clinton Cash: The Untold Story

[dyna mo]

?Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich,? by Peter Schweizer ? a 186-page investigation of donations made to the Clinton Foundation by foreign entities

a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times, asserts that foreign entities who made payments to the Clinton Foundation and to Mr. Clinton through high speaking fees received favors from Mrs. Clinton?s State Department in return.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/04/21/getting-back-to-basic-facts-in-the-next-hillary-scandal/

[ReggieDurango]

It's all lies

[PornoStar69]

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

It's all lies

Hillary is such a big time lesbian

[kane]

Doesn't shock me. A lot of these presidents make millions and millions various ways after they leave office.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by kane

Doesn't shock me. A lot of these presidents make millions and millions various ways before they have even chance to get into office.

I fixed it for you. 2012 presidential election did cost totally 7 billion. Money speaks in US elections.

2012 US presidential campaign cost $7 billion - election commission — RT USA

[kane]

Originally Posted by aka123

I fixed it for you. 2012 presidential election did cost totally 7 billion. Money speaks in US elections.

2012 US presidential campaign cost $7 billion - election commission ? RT USA

That is more recently. Now with the superpacs they can cash in before they ever take office. When Bill Clinton left office he was broke because of how much they spent on legal fees defending him. A few years later he was worth like $30 million.

[dyna mo]

bump for the hillitards.

[Axeman]

This could be a very interesting read. It is supposed to be pretty meticulously researched.

[crockett]

Would you like to hear the one about how the Nazis made the Bush family rich?

The simple fact is big money needs to be removed from politics.. Oddly enough the only ones even saying this is those evil far left Liberals you guys love to hate... Sanders & Warren..

[EddyTheDog]

Need more coffee - I saw the title and the first thing I wondered was if they 5min+ videos - doh...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Axeman

This could be a very interesting read. It is supposed to be pretty meticulously researched.

it certainly appears to be a professional examination of the facts.

what's boggling is Hil had to know about this being published yet she still threw her hat in the ring. add in all the other serious issues her campaign has to sort out. she's completely disconnected.


The foreign governments' champion, err, i mean the people's champion.

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it certainly appears to be a professional examination of the facts.

what's boggling is Hil had to know about this being published yet she still threw her hat in the ring. add in all the other serious issues her campaign has to sort out. she's completely disconnected.


The foreign governments' champion, err, i mean the people's champion.

Certainly understand why she wiped her email server clean, a little bit more. I thought it was dumb and opened up issues for her. But if there was any emails that could possibly make the connection with a cash for play scandal, then it might have been wise to take the hit.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Axeman

Certainly understand why she wiped her email server clean, a little bit more. I thought it was dumb and opened up issues for her. But if there was any emails that could possibly make the connection with a cash for play scandal, then it might have been wise to take the hit.

wow, good point, i hadn't made that connection.

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

wow, good point, i hadn't made that connection.

Yeah, first thing I thought of when I heard about the book. Things made more sense to me.

[TheSquealer]

I can't see her getting away from all these scandals. Bill has personality and charisma and could pull it off for the win no matter what happened, but I can't see Hillary doing it. She's just too cold, bitchy and defiant and the list of problems she has, which have no good explanation is just too long. She won't be able to calmly address any of the issues and will start losing her cool and slipping up under pressure.

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I can't see her getting away from all these scandals. Bill has personality and charisma and could pull it off for the win no matter what happened, but I can't see Hillary doing it. She's just too cold, bitchy and defiant and the list of problems she has, which have no good explanation is just too long. She won't be able to calmly address any of the issues and will start losing her cool and slipping up under pressure.

I hope not..

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Axeman

This could be a very interesting read. It is supposed to be pretty meticulously researched.

Nope its a hatch job,I will not vote for her but book shows the gop are scared shit of her.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/david-brock-warpath-against-anti-hillary-clinton-book-117178.html

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by tony286

Nope its a hatch job,I will not vote for her but book shows the gop are scared shit of her.
David Brock goes on the warpath against anti-Clinton book - Nick Gass - POLITICO

And you quote David Brock who has not read it, vs the NYT article about it,who have read it as your source? Expected, but still pathetic.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by crockett

Would you like to hear the one about how the Nazis made the Bush family rich?

The simple fact is big money needs to be removed from politics.. Oddly enough the only ones even saying this is those evil far left Liberals you guys love to hate... Sanders & Warren..

1. The Nazi's didn't "make Bush's family rich". He was already rich when Bush's grandfather was on the board of a U.S. bank that held funds for a company in Germany that made money off of "defense" (making weapons for Germany). In 1942 the U.S. seized the assets of that bank.

2. This thread isn't about campaign finance. It's about Mrs. Clinton rewarding people who gave money to her husband and to their foundation. Totally fucked up and illegal and nothing at all to do with what you quoted about Sanders and Warren.

Trying to say that we need to remove "money" is ridiculous.
What we need to "remove" are the people who run for office and TAKE that money.
I don't blame any business for trying to gain leverage by spending money. I blame the piece of shit, lying, crooked, politicians who are "for sale" and take that money.

The two-party system is corrupt. It's set up to only allow those who "play the game" to ever get anywhere near the top. That's why we ALWAYS end up with shitty politicians, shitty foreign policy, and shitty economic policy that benefits a few and fucks over everyone else.

All these decades and decades of Republican and Democrat rule and the only "solution" people seem to have is...vote for ANOTHER Republican or Democrat.

No wonder they shit in our faces. They have figured out that they can stay in power together for perpetuity with no repercussions for their actions.
You're a Democrat and fuck the country? No problem. They'll simply vote in a Republican next time, and in 4 to 8 years (after the Republican fucks the country) they will vote in ANOTHER Democrat.

And over, and over, and over, and over....

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Robbie

1. The Nazi's didn't "make Bush's family rich". He was already rich when Bush's grandfather was on the board of a U.S. bank that held funds for a company in Germany that made money off of "defense" (making weapons for Germany). In 1942 the U.S. seized the assets of that bank.

2. This thread isn't about campaign finance. It's about Mrs. Clinton rewarding people who gave money to her husband and to their foundation. Totally fucked up and illegal and nothing at all to do with what you quoted about Sanders and Warren.

Trying to say that we need to remove "money" is ridiculous.
What we need to "remove" are the people who run for office and TAKE that money.
I don't blame any business for trying to gain leverage by spending money. I blame the piece of shit, lying, crooked, politicians who are "for sale" and take that money.

The two-party system is corrupt. It's set up to only allow those who "play the game" to ever get anywhere near the top. That's why we ALWAYS end up with shitty politicians, shitty foreign policy, and shitty economic policy that benefits a few and fucks over everyone else.

All these decades and decades of Republican and Democrat rule and the only "solution" people seem to have is...vote for ANOTHER Republican or Democrat.

No wonder they shit in our faces. They have figured out that they can stay in power together for perpetuity with no repercussions for their actions.
You're a Democrat and fuck the country? No problem. They'll simply vote in a Republican next time, and in 4 to 8 years (after the Republican fucks the country) they will vote in ANOTHER Democrat.

And over, and over, and over, and over....

Umm you think big business has nothing to do with this?

The "other" candidate "Jeb Bush" has this exact same scandal a brewing.. While he was Governor of FL he put FL state workers pension into the hands of big investment firms whom donated to his big brother's presidential campaign.

That dumb dizzy bitch whom ran for vice pres with McCain got all kinds of free construction work done to her house by a contractor whom was also grated a big construction job while she was Gov of Alaska.

It's nothing to do with "two party" system and everything to do with the fact that it's completely legal to bribe politicians with cash donations and gifts. Every fucking politician in DC and most state level politicians get this same kind of shit and in return they hand out contracts or winning bids to their donors.

Seriously if you are going to bitch about it.. don't do your biased "blame the liberal" when both parties do the same shit. If their was a "third" party they would be doing the same shit as well because they can..

Remove big money from politics and suddenly a lot of fucking things will change because campaigns will have to be funded by the people, not corporations.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's nothing to do with "two party" system and everything to do with the fact that it's completely legal to bribe politicians with cash donations and gifts. Every fucking politician in DC and most state level politicians get this same kind of shit and in return they hand out contracts or winning bids to their donors.

Seriously if you are going to bitch about it.. don't do your biased "blame the liberal" when both parties do the same shit. If their was a "third" party they would be doing the same shit as well because they can..

Remove big money from politics and suddenly a lot of fucking things will change because campaigns will have to be funded by the people, not corporations.

1. It has EVERYTHING to do with the current two-party political system. They are corrupt. You don't ever get to even play on the level of the national stage unless you have already given up all of your ideals and bowed down to the party machine and become a crook.

2. I guess you didn't read what I wrote and once again just jumped up all defensive of Democrats like you always do.

3. You can't "remove" money. It's already ILLEGAL to buy politicians votes...but they do it anyway.
You are completely ass-backwards. You need to remove the type of people who would accept that money.
We need men and women with integrity to run for public office.
You just don't get it do you? No matter how much money that EVIL big business has...YOU CAN'T BUY WHAT'S NOT FOR SALE.
And unfortunately, our political system has DEvolved into 2 party system (that Thomas Jefferson warned against) that ensures that all politicians (yes, even your beloved Democrats) are for sale.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Robbie

1. It has EVERYTHING to do with the current two-party political system. They are corrupt. You don't ever get to even play on the level of the national stage unless you have already given up all of your ideals and bowed down to the party machine and become a crook.

2. I guess you didn't read what I wrote and once again just jumped up all defensive of Democrats like you always do.

3. You can't "remove" money. It's already ILLEGAL to buy politicians votes...but they do it anyway.
You are completely ass-backwards. You need to remove the type of people who would accept that money.
We need men and women with integrity to run for public office.
You just don't get it do you? No matter how much money that EVIL big business has...YOU CAN'T BUY WHAT'S NOT FOR SALE.
And unfortunately, our political system has DEvolved into 2 party system (that Thomas Jefferson warned against) that ensures that all politicians (yes, even your beloved Democrats) are for sale.

Why is it you think things will suddenly be better if there is a third party? You think magically over night polititions will just decide to fart rainbows and hand out candy canes because of a third party?
It makes no fucking diffrence if there is 2 parties or 10 as long as big money can buy them..

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by crockett

Why is it you think things will suddenly be better if there is a third party?

Robbie, you've answered and stated this point countless times. He's trolling you. He admits he gets off trolling people. Ignore him.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Robbie, you've answered and stated this point countless times. He's trolling you. He admits he gets off trolling people. Ignore him.

No I'm making a point, that as long as unlimited big money is allowed to be spent on elections then it doesn't matter how many parties there are or what the parties are.

Robbie's beloved Libertairn party for example was bought and owned by the Koch Brothers back in the 80s. They moved on to the Republican Party because they realized that the libertarian party couldnt get shit done.


Oh and Robbie.. The only way you remove people willing to be bought and sold, is you.. Umm remove big money.. You over turn things like citizens United.. Ect,,ect.. Again the only ones bringing that up is those evil libs you hate so much Sanders and Warnen.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by crockett

No I'm making a point, that as long as unlimited big money is allowed to be spent on elections then it doesn't matter how many parties there are or what the parties are.

Robbie's beloved Libertairn party for example was bought and owned by the Koch Brothers back in the 80s. They moved on to the Republican Party because they realized that the libertarian party couldnt get shit done.


Oh and Robbie.. The only way you remove people willing to be bought and sold, is you.. Umm remove big money.. You over turn things like citizens United.. Ect,,ect.. Again the only ones bringing that up is those evil libs you hate so much Sanders and Warnen.

crockett, you're missing my point. You CAN'T remove money. Oh, you can change the law. But people BREAK the law everyday...especially in politics.

What you are saying is that somehow, the crooks in Washington D.C. would suddenly become honest if they were only not tempted by money?

To me, that is backwards.

Can you imagine, for instance...if politicians REALLY did the things they promised during elections and actually had strong beliefs about things and wanted to SERVE the people instead of just gain power and money?

Those are the kind of people we need in office. But we never even get a chance to vote for those kind of people. The parties will NEVER allow anyone that rocks the boat to move up in the hierarchy to be in a position of power.

It's not the money that is the problem...you simply can't make laws and think it will go away. There are tons of laws already on the books. And for every dollar you see a politician get...I'll bet there are thousands more under the table that you will never know about.

It's the quality of people. Has nothing to do with a "third party". In my opinion there shouldn't be ANY party. Every candidate should have to stand on his own merit and have his own stance on the issues of the day.

Do I think that will happen? HELL NO.
The 2 party system is in power and ruling the country. They would never make any laws that make them less powerful. Never.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Robbie

crockett, you're missing my point. You CAN'T remove money. Oh, you can change the law. But people BREAK the law everyday...especially in politics.

What you are saying is that somehow, the crooks in Washington D.C. would suddenly become honest if they were only not tempted by money?

To me, that is backwards.

Can you imagine, for instance...if politicians REALLY did the things they promised during elections and actually had strong beliefs about things and wanted to SERVE the people instead of just gain power and money?

Those are the kind of people we need in office. But we never even get a chance to vote for those kind of people. The parties will NEVER allow anyone that rocks the boat to move up in the hierarchy to be in a position of power.

It's not the money that is the problem...you simply can't make laws and think it will go away. There are tons of laws already on the books. And for every dollar you see a politician get...I'll bet there are thousands more under the table that you will never know about.

It's the quality of people. Has nothing to do with a "third party". In my opinion there shouldn't be ANY party. Every candidate should have to stand on his own merit and have his own stance on the issues of the day.

Do I think that will happen? HELL NO.
The 2 party system is in power and ruling the country. They would never make any laws that make them less powerful. Never.

No Robbie you are wrong. We didn't always have this problem with big money the way it is today. The laws have been changed to allow groups like the Koch Bros to spend 900 million on the up coming election.

It wasn't always like this.. Yes there has always been "some" big money and favors but not like today where lobbyist write the fucking bills which congress passes and the president signs.

The money is so entrenched that it HAS to be removed or this country is lost. Your Magic Unicorn 3rd party where every member is a saint will not change a fucking thing because they have ZERO power and ZERO chance at hell of ever getting elected.

MONEY is the problem that HAS to be solved before anything else changes.. You are trying to put the horse in front of the cart..

Your Dreamy 3rd party has ZERO chance in hell of getting elected because of MONEY IN POLITICS.

[L-Pink]

"With an exasperated swipe at “absurd right-wing conspiracy theories,” Hillary Clinton’s campaign on Wednesday rejected the allegation in a new book that she watered down Iran sanctions to please a corporation that paid Bill Clinton a fortune in speaking fees"

“The really troubling thing about Bill’s speeches is the apparent correlation between his fees and Hillary’s decisions during her tenure as secretary of state,”

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/hilla...131652941.html


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[dyna mo]

HIllary must be a decoy this year. the next scandal percolating up for her is the senate investigation into her longtime muslim assistant.

there's no way HIllary ever had a chance to win, i felt strongly about that when the email scandal broke.

Hillary is going to take all the hard hits for Eliabeth Warren, who is right now distancing herself from BO. she'll sweep in for the nom.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it certainly appears to be a professional examination of the facts.

what's boggling is Hil had to know about this being published yet she still threw her hat in the ring. add in all the other serious issues her campaign has to sort out. she's completely disconnected.


The foreign governments' champion, err, i mean the people's champion.

You're such an idiot, and you have the nerve to call people "Hillitards". The more you talk the more you show you know nothing at all about anything, and how quickly you are to jump to anyone or anything that confirms your own beliefs instead of lifting a finger to find any real facts.

Peter Schweizer, the guy that wrote that book, used to be a part of the stupidly named "Government Accountability Institute". His backers are right wing nut-jobs like the even-more-stupid-than-fox news Breitbart.com, funders Ted Cruz's presidential campaign, and others. This clown was also an adviser to George W Bush and a paid consultant for Sarah Dumb-as-fuck Palin.

Did you know that your favourite news channel, Fox News is already releasing passages from the book, before the book itself was released? I wonder why?

Here's more. In 2012, Karl Rove's Superpac made an attack ad saying that Obama skipped over half of his intelligence briefings to play golf, with the source being The Washington Post. As it turns out, that "information" came from a "report" from "The Government Accountability Institute", headed by Peter Schweizer, and who also wrote the report. The Washington Post decided to fact check Schweizer and found him wrong on everything, and his report to be bogus.

In other words, he's just another right-wing bullshitter, paid to lie to YOU, by other right bullshitters, to trick you and other idiots into voting for them.

Watch who you call a 'Tard, Dynamo - you make yourself look more and more like a fucking retard every single time you post anything.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by **********

In other words, he's just another right-wing bullshitter, paid to lie to YOU, by other right bullshitters, to trick you and other idiots into voting for them.

Just so I fully understand the above rant, the word "right" isn't interchangeable with the word "left" ....... Is that correct?

[dyna mo]

oh look a hillitard clinging to scraps of an argument trying to deflect from the failure that is exploding in his face, like the demtard bukkake he dreams about.


calling me an idiot while he hasn't even read the investigtive document, simply hand-waving it off on account of karl rove the right blah blah.

the hillitard does not even have the capability of an open mind about ANY reality, especially the reality of hillary clinton and her failed 2016 campaign.

and that's why he's a hillitard.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

You're such an idiot, and you have the nerve to call people "Hillitards". The more you talk the more you show you know nothing at all about anything, and how quickly you are to jump to anyone or anything that confirms your own beliefs instead of lifting a finger to find any real facts.
.

i haven't claimed to know anything in this thread, i simply posted the link to the article with an introductory blurb and i added the report appears to be professionally researched, based on the times' article.

FYI, the report is not out yet, it's released on May 5, next month. so it appears you're the one claiming to know about shit you don't know shit about.


translation: you're a dumbfuck, still.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

oh look a hillitard clinging to scraps of an argument trying to deflect from the failure that is exploding in his face.


calling me an idiot while he hasn't even read the investigtive document, simply hand-waving it off on account of karl rove blah blah.

the hillitard does not even have the capability of an open mind about ANY reality, especially the reality of hillary clinton and her failed 2016 campaign.

and that's why he's a hillitard.

It's sad how you laugh at your own "jokes" to make yourself feel smart.

Here's how fucking stupid you are. You said:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it certainly appears to be a professional examination of the facts.

"Professional examination"? Really? You didn't even know who the writer was, and all you did was read what the book was about.

"Facts"? Really? Same answer.

Then you said

Originally Posted by dyna mo

what's boggling is Hil had to know about this being published yet she still threw her hat in the ring.

Of course she is running for present. She's been planning this for years. You think just because someone writes a book against her that she would quit? And again, you are assuming that everything in the book is factually accurate when the writer has a history of lying and or getting his facts completely wrong.

You don't read, you don't care, you don't take the time to learn anything before you speak, er, post. You just.. type. You do exactly what Fox News and every other right-wing big mouth does, but you're too goddamn fucking stupid to see it.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

add in all the other serious issues her campaign has to sort out. she's completely disconnected.

Lol. No. Mitt Romney was disconnected. You are disconnected. Hillary Clinton? She's completely on top of her game while everyone else is fumbling around at her feet, and she didn't even have to try.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

The foreign governments' champion, err, i mean the people's champion.

Very good. Demonize, rinse, repeat. Good for you, you win a participation pin.

[The Porn Nerd]

When I saw this thread title I thought it was another expose of a rogue Affiliate Program, Clinton Cash.

Presidential selfies?

[dyna mo]

it's a sad canaduhian that expects Americans to not try and gather all the facts and information about presidential candidates so we can make informed and educated voting decisions.

do what the leftard blogs tell you to do **********, i'm just glad your uninformed elitist insecure views have absolutely no impact on anything.

ahahahahahahaha.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

It's sad how you laugh at your own "jokes" to make yourself feel smart.

Here's how fucking stupid you are. You said:



"Professional examination"? Really? You didn't even know who the writer was, and all you did was read what the book was about.

"Facts"? Really? Same answer.

Then you said



Of course she is running for present. She's been planning this for years. You think just because someone writes a book against her that she would quit? And again, you are assuming that everything in the book is factually accurate when the writer has a history of lying and or getting his facts completely wrong.

You don't read, you don't care, you don't take the time to learn anything before you speak, er, post. You just.. type. You do exactly what Fox News and every other right-wing big mouth does, but you're too goddamn fucking stupid to see it.



Lol. No. Mitt Romney was disconnected. You are disconnected. Hillary Clinton? She's completely on top of her game while everyone else is fumbling around at her feet, and she didn't even have to try.



Very good. Demonize, rinse, repeat. Good for you, you win a participation pin.

**********, we get it. you don't want to know if Hillary has abused her authority. you're a hillitard. we all get that. but you don't get it. you need to embrace it. try and feel good about yourself. while you don't have a nutsack you do have hillary you can cling to and for you, that's what matters.

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by **********

Did you know that your favourite news channel, Fox News is already releasing passages from the book, before the book itself was released? I wonder why?

Just like Tony, you come off as a moron, when you resort to unhinged, nonfactual statements. Could the book be wrong? Sure it could. But it also could be smoke to the fire. Most people will not have the ability to know for themselves until May 5th. Until then we must rely on the 3 news outlets that made an exclusive deal to read and get the facts early. Those being 2 of your left wing newspapers the Washington Post and NY Times, in addition to your boogeyman fox.

New York Times, Washington Post, Fox News strike deals for anti-Clinton research - POLITICO.com

Its author, Peter Schweizer, is a former speech-writing consultant to George W. Bush who's written for conservative media, but the Times says his tone is neutral and the book is meticulously researched.

New Book Said to Detail Shady Clinton Donations -- NYMag

You going all nuts would be the same as someone on the right screaming up and down that something bad about Jeb Bush is completely untrue because Karl Rove said it was made up by a left wing hack. As a rationale person, I toss out Rove's bias as just that, and wait to see what is presented, then decide if there is fire or even smoke there.

[Axeman]

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Company

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...pany.html?_r=0

The New York Times?s examination of the Uranium One deal is based on dozens of interviews, as well as a review of public records and securities filings in Canada, Russia and the United States. Some of the connections between Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation were unearthed by Peter Schweizer, a former fellow at the right-leaning Hoover Institution and author of the forthcoming book ?Clinton Cash.? Mr. Schweitzer provided a preview of material in the book to The Times, which scrutinized his information and built upon it with its own reporting.

Whether the donations played any role in the approval of the uranium deal is unknown. But the episode underscores the special ethical challenges presented by the Clinton Foundation, headed by a former president who relied heavily on foreign cash to accumulate $250 million in assets even as his wife helped steer American foreign policy as secretary of state, presiding over decisions with the potential to benefit the foundation?s donors.

[kane]

It is possible that all of this stuff is hitting too soon to derail Hillary. We are still 1.5 years away from the election and 7 months from the primaries even starting. By the time the primaries have started most of this will be long forgotten. Whoever ends up being the republican candidate is likely going to have skeletons in their own closet so if they go back to this stuff Clinton will counter with whatever those are. Not too mention, unless there is some kind of solid evidence and Clinton ends up getting into some kind of trouble, to a lot of people it is going to look like the republicans are desperate and reaching for straws just like they did with Obama's birth certificate. All of that might help motivate the left and actually do more harm than good to the republicans.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Axeman

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Company

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...pany.html?_r=0

quite the news story.

[Robbie]

Oh well, I guess we're gonna have another election where people are going to argue over which rich, powerful, millionaire Republican or Democrat running for President is the most "connected" to the "normal" people. (hint: correct answer is NONE of them)

[Axeman]

Bloomberg Businessweek National Correspondent Joshua Green, New York Times reporter Jeremy Peters, MSNBC hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, and former Vermont Governor and DNC Chairman Howard Dean engaged in a lengthy debate over Peter Schweizer?s forthcoming book ?Clinton Cash? on Thursday?s ?Morning Joe? on MSNBC.

Green said, ?I interviewed the author of ?Clinton Cash? yesterday, Peter Schweizer, author of the controversial book, supposed right-wing hit man. He?s actually working on a similar investigation of Jeb Bush?s finances with a team of researchers that?s going to be published this summer. ? he?s doing the same thing to Jeb Bush, and Jeb Bush?s financial dealings.? Green added that this ?complicates the narrative that liberal interest groups and Clinton supporters have been making that Schweizer is just kind of this partisan warrior simply out to get Hillary Clinton.?

Joshua Green must be a complete liar. ********** and Tony already cleared this up, and its 100% without a doubt a nutjob extreme right wing hack job out to discredit Clinton, and pull the GOP to victory.

[pimpmaster9000]

*cough *cough carlyle *cough cough* bush *cough *cough rich as fuck! *cough *cough US politics LOL

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

*cough *cough carlyle *cough cough* bush *cough *cough rich as fuck! *cough *cough US politics LOL

Until you get the money out from top to bottom in politics, there will always be this system without a doubt. Its just to hard for regular people to run against an incumbent, when the money is out there to influence everything.

Should be public funding limits set per candidate, per level of government, and that's it. Do your best, and win. With social media its easier than ever to get your message out to your constituents.

Businesses can still lobby, as we well as citizens, but the only influence they should have is their vote. The tricky part is how you handle situations where they get the wink and nod, and after they retire, they end up with plush jobs with those companies as their payback for the help.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

**********, we get it. you don't want to know if Hillary has abused her authority. you're a hillitard. we all get that. but you don't get it. you need to embrace it. try and feel good about yourself. while you don't have a nutsack you do have hillary you can cling to and for you, that's what matters.

No Dynamo, you don't get it. First, I live in Canada, so I have no dog in this fight. I can't vote for her even if I wanted to.

My point, that you completely missed twice now, is that Schweizer lied years ago, and now here's another book, paid for by people who's only interest is to win an election, that might contain more lies, etc.

And, just like Fox news, YOU my friend, are passing it off to people here, as if it is a book of truths, and tossing passive-egressive jabs at Hillary Clinton in the process. You are exactly the kind of person that Fox News jizzes on, again and again, and you don't even know it.

Don't you see? They want you to dismiss anyone else with facts or difference of opinion as "libitards" and "Hillitards", because its easy and requires absolutely zero effort.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I can't see her getting away from all these scandals. Bill has personality and charisma and could pull it off for the win no matter what happened, but I can't see Hillary doing it. She's just too cold, bitchy and defiant and the list of problems she has, which have no good explanation is just too long. She won't be able to calmly address any of the issues and will start losing her cool and slipping up under pressure.

Really? I don't know about that... The Bengazzi Scandal turned out to be a big nothing. I see her a lot less cold and bitchy than Chris Christie, and she appears to have a lot more confidence than Marco Rubio. I'm willing to bet that she never loses her cool, and sails right into the white house in 2016.

Originally Posted by tony286

Nope its a hatch job,I will not vote for her but book shows the gop are scared shit of her.
David Brock goes on the warpath against anti-Clinton book - Nick Gass - POLITICO

I agree. It has to be really tough for the GOP right now. They have to spend so much money - SO MUCH MONEY - to try to defeat her - and they are probably afraid that they won't be able to do it. They lost the lost 2 elections after all...

Originally Posted by Robbie

crockett, you're missing my point. You CAN'T remove money. Oh, you can change the law. But people BREAK the law everyday...especially in politics..

Crocket I agree with Robbie on this one (ack!). Big money is forever involved in politics now especially since they removed the spending limit, and allowed the ridiculous Super Pac thing.
And politicians definitely break the law every day, or re-write the laws to let them get away with some of the crap they pull.

But Robbie, Crockett is also right. The laws in the US changed only very recently. This is why the Koch Brothers and the Sheldon Adelsons (sp?) of the world are now allowed to donate millions.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

HIllary must be a decoy this year. the next scandal percolating up for her is the senate investigation into her longtime muslim assistant.

there's no way HIllary ever had a chance to win, i felt strongly about that when the email scandal broke.

Hillary is going to take all the hard hits for Eliabeth Warren, who is right now distancing herself from BO. she'll sweep in for the nom.

Just keep fucking that chicken, Dynamo.

[dyna mo]

**********, why are you against Americans trying to inform ourselves so we can make educated and informed voting decisions?

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

**********, why are you against Americans trying to inform ourselves so we can make educated and informed voting decisions?

Or why he just glosses over this post, to keep on his Fox news, right wing nut job agenda....

Businessweek National Correspondent Joshua Green said, ?I interviewed the author of ?Clinton Cash? yesterday, Peter Schweizer, author of the controversial book, supposed right-wing hit man. He?s actually working on a similar investigation of Jeb Bush?s finances with a team of researchers that?s going to be published this summer. ? he?s doing the same thing to Jeb Bush, and Jeb Bush?s financial dealings.? Green added that this ?complicates the narrative that liberal interest groups and Clinton supporters have been making that Schweizer is just kind of this partisan warrior simply out to get Hillary Clinton.?

Or that the NY Times, Washington Post and Fox News all made agreements to get the research from the book early. And it was the NYT that followed up with their own investigation on the Uranium/Russia deal. Also posted above.

Trolling at its best for sure.

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Originally Posted by Axeman

Until you get the money out from top to bottom in politics, there will always be this system without a doubt. Its just to hard for regular people to run against an incumbent, when the money is out there to influence everything.

Should be public funding limits set per candidate, per level of government, and that's it. Do your best, and win. With social media its easier than ever to get your message out to your constituents.

Businesses can still lobby, as we well as citizens, but the only influence they should have is their vote. The tricky part is how you handle situations where they get the wink and nod, and after they retire, they end up with plush jobs with those companies as their payback for the help.

US elections are hollywood calibre events, the candidates are superstars, and if they do not shine and sparkle enough and do not have sufficient pedigree americans simply will not vote for them...

the USA is the worlds biggest plutocracy bar none...I do not see things changing without a bloody revolution...against government drones

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No biggie, if it was republicans then it would be "evil republicans" theme from board's demtards