Greece is defaulting and leaving eurozone

[klinton]

and all Europeans start to dance Zorba !
Germans, dont be shy !

[pornmasta]

you made me hesitate

[klinton]

can you feel the music ;-)

Originally Posted by pornmasta

you made me hesitate

[MaDalton]

I am going to claim my part of greece for all the money we sent

[klinton]

ZORBA !

Originally Posted by MaDalton

I am going to claim my part of greece for all the money we sent

[L-Pink]

And the greeks butt-fucked everyone ....... imagine that.

[klinton]

i dont think so....
anyway, their best solution is to leave eurozone and finally cut this debt madness...few years of struggling and maybe later they will be better...
and half of the population will leave for UK, US, Scandinavia nad Netherlands....

Originally Posted by L-Pink

And the greeks butt-fucked everyone ....... imagine that.

[EddyTheDog]

Cheap holidays - Nice...

[Spunky]

It was inevitable,no way they could pay that debt back

[klinton]

heh man, nobody quit nothing yet, it was a joke

Originally Posted by Spunky

It was inevitable,no way they could pay that debt back

[Spunky]

Why you trick me?

[aka123]

Maybe, but there is no news about this. Did you again listened your broker?

[nico-t]

all the successes the Euro brought us.....

It was a pet project for banksters and ram down everyones throat here. When we got the euro in NL, prices quickly went times 2. Because our old fashioned guilder had 2 times less value. The importance of price psychology was proven, because the switch made everyone blind for this huge price rise.

You paid fl 10 (guilders) for 4 beers, fl 2,50 per beer. A little while after the euro was introduced, soon 4 beers were €10.

€10 is fl 22.

I am all for Greece doing this, the eurozone needs to fail, it's one big fuck up.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

I am going to claim my part of greece for all the money we sent

It's sold out already. You're too late

[djroof]

Originally Posted by nico-t

all the successes the Euro brought us.....

It was a pet project for banksters and ram down everyones throat here. When we got the euro in NL, prices quickly went times 2. Because our old fashioned guilder had 2 times less value. The importance of price psychology was proven, because the switch made everyone blind for this huge price rise.

You paid fl 10 (guilders) for 4 beers, fl 2,50 per beer. A little while after the euro was introduced, soon 4 beers were ?10.

?10 is fl 22.

I am all for Greece doing this, the eurozone needs to fail, it's one big fuck up.

HUGE truth dude... same here... u paid 100 drachmas for a piece of pie and after u spend 1 euro which means 340,75 drachmas...

Euro fucked whole Europe! Many countries has problems, like Italy, Spain, Portugal and now Finland too... a country which hate Greece... Germany which press Europe now can put at their butts all the things which produce (electronics etc) because now NONE can buy them...

[MaDalton]

no one in Greece should blame anyone else but themselves. generations of corrupt politicians that cheated themselves into the Euro, a tax system that no one understands and no one follows, avoiding taxes as a national sport (why do so many greek houses never get finished? why is asking for a receipt at a hotel, restaurant or gas station something like an insult to the owner?), no taxes at all for the billionaires, half of greece works for the government and you get pension at 55.

if it wasn't so sad, it would be funny

all the greek people i know personally are great people - but the greek government, no matter which party - is a joke

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by nico-t

all the successes the Euro brought us.....

It was a pet project for banksters and ram down everyones throat here. When we got the euro in NL, prices quickly went times 2. Because our old fashioned guilder had 2 times less value. The importance of price psychology was proven, because the switch made everyone blind for this huge price rise.

You paid fl 10 (guilders) for 4 beers, fl 2,50 per beer. A little while after the euro was introduced, soon 4 beers were ?10.

?10 is fl 22.

I am all for Greece doing this, the eurozone needs to fail, it's one big fuck up.

Very true. The price of ski passes in slovakia went WAAAAY up when they entered the euro, because of course you cannot have a 9 euro ski pass - it has to cost more.

[SvenGun]

Return our money!

[directfiesta]

Adding Ukraine should solve the issue

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

And the greeks butt-fucked everyone ....... imagine that.

Practice, practice ...

[CPA-Rush]

broke ass

[RebelR]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

And the greeks butt-fucked everyone ....... imagine that.

They don't call it "Going Greek" for no apparent reason

[klinton]

sure man. and that means one thing - country like Greece shouldnt be allowed at first place to eurozone. now you have/ had some strange combinations of countries like Greece, Portugal, Spain and well, Italy on one side and on the other: countries like Germany, Austria or Netherlands...well...good idea or not ?
while the euro was so strong in last 10 years, it was literally killing all these "south" economies....
the only country happy from being in eurozone is GERMANY,that could/ can export all the stuff that they produce without exchange rates
and now you are even happier with such weak euro, which is actually good for whole EU economy

Originally Posted by MaDalton

no one in Greece should blame anyone else but themselves. generations of corrupt politicians that cheated themselves into the Euro, a tax system that no one understands and no one follows, avoiding taxes as a national sport (why do so many greek houses never get finished? why is asking for a receipt at a hotel, restaurant or gas station something like an insult to the owner?), no taxes at all for the billionaires, half of greece works for the government and you get pension at 55.

if it wasn't so sad, it would be funny

all the greek people i know personally are great people - but the greek government, no matter which party - is a joke

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Very true. The price of ski passes in slovakia went WAAAAY up when they entered the euro, because of course you cannot have a 9 euro ski pass - it has to cost more.

you can still go to Czech for skiing, its much cheaper then in slovakia :-)

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

I am going to claim my part of greece for all the money we sent

I thought Germany still owned them for WWII.
And an investigation here showed they where right.
After the fall of the wall compensation had to be paid.
So we are waiting for the money from Germany and Greece

[Sid70]

Where is my huge Ukrainian cut?

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

I thought Germany still owned them for WWII.
And an investigation here showed they where right.
After the fall of the wall compensation had to be paid.
So we are waiting for the money from Germany and Greece

since when are you greek?

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

since when are you greek?

Since there is money to bite a piece from, I guess

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

since when are you greek?

Also Holland had claims that would be negotiated when Germany would become 1 country. But that negotiations never started and therefor Holland couldn't claim more money. So Holland just had a little compensation for the cost of WWII. There was a documentary on TV about it.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Also Holland had claims that would be negotiated when Germany would become 1 country. But that negotiations never started and therefor Holland couldn't claim more money. So Holland just had a little compensation for the cost of WWII. There was a documentary on TV about it.

see - there are by now hundreds of international law specialists that cannot say whether all reparations were ended with the 2+4 contract or not - i doubt we will solve this on a porn webmaster board

and it has nothing to do with the way Greece handles its financials - just look at countries like Slovakia or Estonia that went through this and were able to pull themselves out.

a pensioner in those countries retires at 65 and gets maybe 200-300 € pension - a greek pensioner retires at 55 and gets 80% of his last income (Germany: 46%).

and now please explain a slovakian or estonian pensioner why they should finance Greece

[Tasty1]

ps, with the new robot techniques i think we all need to retire at 55! Instead of we wanting the greek people to work longer, we must all follow that good exampe! Why 'work' till you are 67 when in reality most people will be unemployed at 57?

There are more and more people wanting a sort of 'basic income' for everybody. Cause there are hundrerds of thousands unemployed who probably won't find a job again.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

ps, with the new robot techniques i think we all need to retire at 55! Instead of we wanting the greek people to work longer, we must all follow that good exampe! Why 'work' till you are 67 when in reality most people will be unemployed at 57?

There are more and more people wanting a sort of 'basic income' for everybody. Cause there are hundrerds of thousands unemployed who probably won't find a job again.

i never understood how someone can be self employed and at the same time come up with ideas like this

and in several EU countries unemployment rates are down, CZ for example looks pretty good.

there is unemployment where countries didn't do their homework - when a country for example relied solely on tourism, olive oil and that they can always borrow enough money to keep half of the country employed as government employees in return for voting for them.

i am sick of this shitty crying

[aka123]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

see - there are by now hundreds of international law specialists that cannot say whether all reparations were ended with the 2+4 contract or not - i doubt we will solve this on a porn webmaster board

As we are on the subject, I don't think that Finland got a dime for burned Lappland. Though we were "on the same side" in the negotiations as Germany, but if you feel guilty enough about burned Lappland, I can give my bank account number. Not that I would be from Lappland, but I can arrange it so that my bank account is.

[MaDalton]

"Lappen" in german means a cloth you use for wiping - and you can call someone "Lappen" when he's a weak person.

just thought i'd mention...

[xXXtesy10]

[aka123]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

"Lappen" in german means a cloth you use for wiping - and you can call someone "Lappen" when he's a weak person.

just thought i'd mention...

Doesn't matter, my yet unestablished Lapland bank accound doesn't know it. You can still send the money.

[xato]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i never understood how someone can be self employed and at the same time come up with ideas like this

and in several EU countries unemployment rates are down, CZ for example looks pretty good.

there is unemployment where countries didn't do their homework - when a country for example relied solely on tourism, olive oil and that they can always borrow enough money to keep half of the country employed as government employees in return for voting for them.

i am sick of this shitty crying

[femdomdestiny]

I love Greece and I feel there like I am home. Can't wait to use drachmas again.

[klinton]

just leave Germans alone with what they did 70 years ago.
it was 70 years ago, for gods sake...if they had to pay all claims for what they done during second war, they would be ruined now, lol.
and what exactly they did do Holland ? My guess is that probably 10 times less than to Poland...
how about Netherlands will start to pay Indonesia for what they done few hundreds years ago ? are you ready for that or you already pay for it with immigration from south east asia ?

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Also Holland had claims that would be negotiated when Germany would become 1 country. But that negotiations never started and therefor Holland couldn't claim more money. So Holland just had a little compensation for the cost of WWII. There was a documentary on TV about it.

[Paul&John]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

no one in Greece should blame anyone else but themselves. generations of corrupt politicians that cheated themselves into the Euro, a tax system that no one understands and no one follows, avoiding taxes as a national sport (why do so many greek houses never get finished? why is asking for a receipt at a hotel, restaurant or gas station something like an insult to the owner?), no taxes at all for the billionaires, half of greece works for the government and you get pension at 55.

if it wasn't so sad, it would be funny

all the greek people i know personally are great people - but the greek government, no matter which party - is a joke

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by klinton

just leave Germans alone with what they did 70 years ago.
it was 70 years ago, for gods sake...if they had to pay all claims for what they done during second war, they would be ruined now, lol.
and what exactly they did do Holland ? My guess is that probably 10 times less than to Poland...
how about Netherlands will start to pay Indonesia for what they done few hundreds years ago ? are you ready for that or you already pay for it with immigration from south east asia ?

Holland can pay the slave trade processes with the money we still get from Germany.
After that we go after France cause Napoleon also made a mess here.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by nico-t

all the successes the Euro brought us.....

It was a pet project for banksters and ram down everyones throat here. When we got the euro in NL, prices quickly went times 2. Because our old fashioned guilder had 2 times less value. The importance of price psychology was proven, because the switch made everyone blind for this huge price rise.

You paid fl 10 (guilders) for 4 beers, fl 2,50 per beer. A little while after the euro was introduced, soon 4 beers were €10.

€10 is fl 22.

I am all for Greece doing this, the eurozone needs to fail, it's one big fuck up.

You have to admit the idea of the Euro is good and solid. It had to make traveling in Europe much, much easier. I could only imagine the cluster fuck it would be if in the US we had a different currency in every state..

One money exchange rate has a lot of benefits, but obviously there will be problems to go along with it..

[klinton]

exactly, so you see ? no point in that at all.

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Holland can pay the slave trade processes with the money we still get from Germany.
After that we go after France cause Napoleon also made a mess here.

[klinton]

and how is that ? its not so hard to count....and with euro prices are very often higher

Originally Posted by crockett

You have to admit the idea of the Euro is good and solid. It had to make traveling in Europe much, much easier.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by klinton

how about Netherlands will start to pay Indonesia

I don't think that Indonesia can give lessons when it comes about genocides...

[MaDalton]

most of you are too young to remember (or not even being born then) how it was with closed borders and different currencies everywhere

and most of you don't make enough to worry about accounting in 20 or 30 different currencies

you all just cry cry cry and have no clue

[klinton]

I mean Holland pay Indonesia.
and Indonesia can pay Papuas for all the shit since 1960's
oh and France will supply croissant, baguette Y cafe for every black man in Africa.
they will also repay what Haiti pay them in 1800's.

Originally Posted by pornmasta

I don't think that Indonesia can give lessons when it comes about genocides...

[klinton]

exactly, I told that euro is good for german companies that export and you are just proving it

Originally Posted by MaDalton

and most of you don't make enough to worry about accounting in 20 or 30 different currencies

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by klinton

exactly, I told that euro is good for german companies that export and you are just proving it

my company is in CZ and i still have to deal with czech crowns - annoying

it costs me extra money for my tax accountant because he has to calculate exchange rates all the time

euro and usd would be enough for me

but i realize by now that most here get maybe 100 or 200 a month by paxum that they never pay taxes on and therefore know shit about how business works

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by klinton

just leave Germans alone with what they did 70 years ago.
it was 70 years ago, for gods sake...if they had to pay all claims for what they done during second war, they would be ruined now, lol.
and what exactly they did do Holland ? My guess is that probably 10 times less than to Poland...
how about Netherlands will start to pay Indonesia for what they done few hundreds years ago ? are you ready for that or you already pay for it with immigration from south east asia ?

.. as long as we do not hear anymore about the holocaust