Gun Control

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[XXXBizXXX]

Gun control doesn't make any sense. more education, period.

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?Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold?s medical records have never been made available to the public.
?Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather?s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
?Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
?Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
?Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
?Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
?Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
?Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
?A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
?Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
?A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
?Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
?TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
?Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
?James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
?Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
?Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) ? school shooting in El Cajon, California
?Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
?Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
?Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic?s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
?Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
?Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
?Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
?Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
?Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide ? hanging from a tall ladder at the family?s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
?Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara?s parents said ??. the damn doctor wouldn?t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil??)
?Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
?(Gareth?s father could not accept his son?s death and killed himself.)
?Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family?s detached garage.
?Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
?Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
?Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
?A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
?Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and ?other drugs for the conditions.?
?Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
?Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
?Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School ? then he committed suicide.
?Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
?Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.


Read more: Every Mass Shooting Shares One Thing In Common & It's NOT Weapons

[Just Alex]

Xanax is the last thing to blame for killing. Its quite opposite - anti-anxiety downer. I take it every time I fly and killing is not the thing you'd think of.

[Tom_PM]

Isn't it true that something like 400k people have died by handguns in the United States since September 11 2001?

Everything is working great. Change nothing.

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Status Quo
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[Tom_PM]

If guns make you safe, we must need a whole bunch more of 'em.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by XXXBizXXX

Gun control doesn't make any sense. more education, period.

It's not about education.

This is a combination of a mental health crisis and the fact that we hand out firearms to anyone who wants them. It's easier to get a firearm than it is to get a driver's license, and we'll let anyone drive a car.

A perfect example of this is my friend John. He's fifty years old, mentally retarded, and operates on the level of a 16 year old. His is disabled from both the Army and the US Post Office. He owns a house, drives a car, and operates as a full adult. And he seems perfectly normal until you talk to him for more than ten minutes - then you quickly discover there is only a handful of topics he can talk about. He hasn't gotten laid in twenty years, he hasn't seen his kids in years and they don't talk to him (they are German and in Germany), he is over weight, has diabetes, high blood pressure, and a list of other health issues. Although he is a nice guy, he is pissed at the world and plans on leaving the state because "Obama is going to take his guns". Yet no one can stop him from buying firearms including assault rifles. It's only a matter of time before he snaps and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent this because he is protected by the 2nd amendment.

At the same time the gun owners will say "But I need my firearms to protect myself". Very true. By making firearms so easy to get we've armed the criminals and the mentally ill and now we'll need to protect ourselves from them. At the same time when we need someone with a firearm they aren't there. They weren't there in the church and they weren't at the block party where ten people got shot just the other day. Or if they are there they are unable to do anything because they aren't trained, like that guy in Wal Mart in Vegas who couldn't hit the side of the barn and got shot dead when he confronted two gunmen or the local homeowner here in town who pulled out his shotgun during a home invasion and promptly got beat nearly to death with his own weapon.

No worries. We'll just continue to bury our heads in the sand and do nothing.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Too bad some of the people attending church were not armed -- less people would have died.

That asshole would have used a suicide belt or a truck bomb if he new he would be shot on sight

People that want to kill can kill. Guns or not. Be like ISIS use a sword ... Against unarmed people he may have killed a few ...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Too bad some of the people attending church were not armed -- less people would have died.

That asshole would have used a suicide belt or a truck bomb if he new he would be shot on sight

People that want to kill can kill. Guns or not. Be like ISIS use a sword ... Against unarmed people he may have killed a few ...

Your argument is counter productive as it shows that with out access to truck bombs in the US no one uses them..

Think about it, in the last 20 or 30 years what has there been 2 or 3 truck bombings? The Oklahoma federal building and the first attack on the WTC is all I can think of.

Why is that? Why because it's kinda difficult to get the materials for the average person. Yet as we see in the middle east they are very common because it's very easy to get the explosives there.

Now think about that for a moment.. if there weren't so many guns and such easy access to tgem..then we wouldn't see gun related crimes like we do because people wouldn't have easy access to them..


Yes if they were determined they could still kill people, it just wouldnt be with guns.. maybe the popular thing would be to run people over with trucks or something.

Now b4 you get all, you wanna take ma guns away, that's not what I'm saying. I realize the genie is out of the bottle and it's likely impossible problem to fix but I just wanted to show that your argument wasn't really valid.

[Tom_PM]

Like I said to my friend the other night, if he had had to use a knife he might have killed one person. Much more likely he would have aborted plans to do anything except go to the dairy queen because it's the coolest thing to do in his town as a young person.

By the way, under no current pre-screening system would that kid have been deemed anything other than normal and no risk when purchasing his firearm. He was not mentally retarded or a criminal. He was a normal, law abiding, responsible gun owner by ALL currently used measures!



Everything is fine. If only more people had guns.
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[Barry-xlovecam]

You could conceal a baseball bat with barbed wire on the end under a coat and bash people's skulls in with it too and kill them. Pistols are just more efficient ... I am not disarming unless the police, army and criminals disarm too -- that will never happen.

It's just too bad there was not someone armed like an off duty policeman to take that fucker out dead cold ...

Hypothetically: Load a van full of 100 pound propane cylinders then attach them together on one hose, open the hose and make a cell phone detonator -- park the van in the front and wait for everyone to exit at once -- IED -- BOOM! You don't need a gun if you are a nut and you don't need a huge quantity of fertilizer or accelerant. But you do need a evil brain. Low IQ neo Nazi racists need a gun I guess. This piece of human shit had a gun. The piece of human shit killed 9 people and not the gun -- he made a conscious decision to kill.

Charles Manson used knives.
The Boston Bomber did not use a gun.
The 9/11 Terrorists did not use a gun.
The list goes on.

[ownedbox]

Korea has less death by guns since their law says no guns for civilians. the only access to guns are authorities

[SuckOnThis]

Pass a law that allows hunters to hunt each other. Problem solved.