3rd Party DMCA Companies

[Jel]

How hard is it really to whitelist affiliate domains? Harder obviously than just blanket DMCA'ing, but fuck... talk about counter-productive for the companies they are trying to help increase their bottom line.

[JuicyBunny]

Its fucked up and pretty unprofessional. The programs should look at who they are using and maybe use someone else. But they won't.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Jel

How hard is it really to whitelist affiliate domains? Harder obviously than just blanket DMCA'ing, but fuck... talk about counter-productive for the companies they are trying to help increase their bottom line.

Make sur you submit a counter notification to each and every DMCA that you think illegitimately targets your domain. You don't want an accumulation of unresolved DMCA's on your domain.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

Its fucked up and pretty unprofessional. The programs should look at who they are using and maybe use someone else. But they won't.

I doubt most programs realise genuine affiliates, with permission granted to use content, are being hit. Looks way better to just blanket DMCA and send in the report saying 'hey, look at all these dmca's we sent!'

Obviously there is total need for dmca agents, but also obviously, they don't take a look at how the content is being used, in any shape or form. This cuts out the pirates/general thieves, but the method also cuts into the programs' profits... the 'saved' profits aren't 100% when you factor in the genuine affs' efforts that get dmca'd and removed that could have sent sales only for a competitors site to get surfed/sold. In essence, you (programs, not you JB) are paying for your own genuine content to get DMCA'd

[Markul]

It's also pretty amazing how many lawyers choose to represent people in these cases who know jack shit about anything.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Just hot link the content or add an affiliate token

e.g.; .jpg?049dfjkfgi4394, mp4?049dfjkfgi4394

It's not that hard to do

Or, ask affiliates to register all their domains used for the program -- best way.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Just hot link the content or add an affiliate token

e.g.; .jpg?049dfjkfgi4394, mp4?049dfjkfgi4394

It's not that hard to do

that doesn't solve all the problems/methods

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Or, ask affiliates to register all their domains used for the program -- best way.

you mean like... whitelist domains? As per the OP? The problem isn't between the programs and the affiliates, it's the 3rd parties causing the problems by just blanket DMCAing (those of them who do this... not of all of them do, and will actually whitelist domains and stick to that whitelist).

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Jel

that doesn't solve all the problems/methods




you mean like... whitelist domains? As per the OP? The problem isn't between the programs and the affiliates, it's the 3rd parties causing the problems by just blanket DMCAing (those of them who do this... not of all of them do, and will actually whitelist domains and stick to that whitelist).

If those e-dumb-shits cannot check a domain list given to them as a protected affiliate list -- fire them.

These DMCA 3rd parties work for what 1st parties? The content producers/owners or the sponsor program owners?

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

If those e-dumb-shits cannot check a domain list given to them as a protected affiliate list -- fire them.

These DMCA 3rd parties work for what 1st parties? The content producers/owners or the sponsor program owners?

I agree mate, hence the thread. Problem is, most programs aren't aware of the headaches the 3rd parties are causing. I work fairly closely with my sponsors, due to the nature of my methods, so I don't get *too* many problems these days, though obviously do get them from time to time.

I've had to drop sponsors in the past due to over-zealous dmca agents, and I highly doubt I'm the only one - and I'm certainly not in the higher bracket of traffic owners, so fuck knows how much legit traffic is being shitcanned overall.

This is part rant - albeit it a very mild one, part heads-up to programs, and part seeing if any dmca agents will chime in (not sure if any actually frequent here though), to see if some dialogue can be opened and get them singing from the same hymn sheet as programs & affiliates.

...Also I gotta stress, in case it isn't clear, that I have zero 'problem' with sponsors utilising dmca agents.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Jel

...Also I gotta stress, in case it isn't clear, that I have zero 'problem' with sponsors utilising dmca agents.

If the sponsors are the principal and the DMCA Agents are the agency: If the sponsor (the principal) makes instruction to his agent of a "protected affiliate list of domains" then his agent is required to follow the principal's (sponsor's) instructions or have his (the agency) contract terminated and be liable for damages.

There is no argument -- that is the scope of his agency and the laws of agency