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Old 07-22-2015, 07:31 AM   #1
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What Donald Trump was up to while John McCain was a prisoner of war

What Donald Trump was up to while John McCain was a prisoner of war - The Washington Post

i don't really like either of them but nice tongue-in-cheek article

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Old 07-22-2015, 07:35 AM   #2
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The difference is that Trump would actually be a real leader, one who Americans could be proud of
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Old 07-22-2015, 07:37 AM   #3
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The difference is that Trump would actually be a real leader, one who Americans could be proud of
says the wacky troll with a degree from the Youtube university
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Old 07-22-2015, 07:39 AM   #4
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says the wacky troll with a degree from the Youtube university
McCain won't work for the people, his loyalties are elsewhere. Trump at least cannot be bought, he already has all the money he needs, he's going there with a purpose
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Old 07-22-2015, 07:54 AM   #5
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Trump is an All-American Bankruptcy Court Victor

Trump has advanced training in financial shenanigans -- he could be the perfect politician who has on-the-job training experience in screwing his creditors ...
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Old 07-22-2015, 08:14 AM   #6
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First of all, Trump never said McCain wasn't a war hero. He said he wasn't a hero. There is a difference. We use the term "hero" way too often these days. A hero is someone that goes above and beyond what is expected at great peril to themselves. The first responders on 9/11 were heroes. They rushed up into the WTC while people were rushing out. That is over and above. There are inherent risks associated with being in the military...things that they face everyday during wartime. One of those risks is capture by the enemy. Being a POW does not make someone a hero. Being a POW, being tortured and refusing to collaborate with the enemy ---- THAT makes you a hero. McCain, on the other hand, did collaborate with the North Vietnamese. All members of our military, including those who were POWs deserve our gratitude for their sacrifice and service to their country. But a hero is something extra special.

I did not hear Trump once say that McCain didn't serve honorably. I didn't hear him belittle his service. What I did hear was McCain insulting Americans by calling them crazies. What I did hear was Trump calling McCain out on his failure to protect our veterans. What I did hear was Trump calling McCain out on his failure to secure our border and protect Americans.

What has the political elite and media outlets nearly having a stroke is that Trump is not reacting to their ridicule of him like others that they have smeared in the past. He is not bowing down to the PC police. He is not going to play the game of the namby pamby politicians. I think it is great that Trump released the cell phone number of Graham...what did Graham expect would happen when he publicly called him a jackass? Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows that he goes tit for tat with those who challenge or insult him. Keep stirring the pot Donald...can't wait to see the veins pop out on the foreheads of most of your fellow debaters."
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First of all, Trump never said McCain wasn't a war hero. He said he wasn't a hero. There is a difference. We use the term "hero" way too often these days. A hero is someone that goes above and beyond what is expected at great peril to themselves. The first responders on 9/11 were heroes. They rushed up into the WTC while people were rushing out. That is over and above. There are inherent risks associated with being in the military...things that they face everyday during wartime. One of those risks is capture by the enemy. Being a POW does not make someone a hero. Being a POW, being tortured and refusing to collaborate with the enemy ---- THAT makes you a hero. McCain, on the other hand, did collaborate with the North Vietnamese. All members of our military, including those who were POWs deserve our gratitude for their sacrifice and service to their country. But a hero is something extra special.

I did not hear Trump once say that McCain didn't serve honorably. I didn't hear him belittle his service. What I did hear was McCain insulting Americans by calling them crazies. What I did hear was Trump calling McCain out on his failure to protect our veterans. What I did hear was Trump calling McCain out on his failure to secure our border and protect Americans.

What has the political elite and media outlets nearly having a stroke is that Trump is not reacting to their ridicule of him like others that they have smeared in the past. He is not bowing down to the PC police. He is not going to play the game of the namby pamby politicians. I think it is great that Trump released the cell phone number of Graham...what did Graham expect would happen when he publicly called him a jackass? Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows that he goes tit for tat with those who challenge or insult him. Keep stirring the pot Donald...can't wait to see the veins pop out on the foreheads of most of your fellow debaters."
The person that posted that comment is a dumbass he did say Mccain was not a war hero and Trump is a jackass lol
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:14 AM   #8
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agree with his politics or not, someone like trump questioning mccain makes me nauseous. I dont see how anyone can punch "the donald's" ticket.
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:26 AM   #9
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Not being American, I have no actual say in who becomes President, but it will affect the rest of the world. Anyone who defends and supports the two wars started after 9/11 has no place leading the most powerful nation on earth.

Neither McCain nor Trump should be running the country but if you have to choose between a good business mind or a warmonger, the choice should be relatively simple.

Here's hoping that Bernie make some bigger waves, but we all know it's an unlikely scenario. At least the drama Trump bring on board is relatively entertaining.
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McCain won't work for the people, his loyalties are elsewhere. Trump at least cannot be bought, he already has all the money he needs, he's going there with a purpose
This has to be so naive.

A man with $4 billion is on his way to make $5 billion. That's how he got the first $million. If you think sitting in the Oval office is going to suddenly change that. Think again.

It's all academic. His chance of winning is extreme. If he's the best the GOP have, be ready for another 4 years out of the White House. He can't win the middle ground where elections are won and lost.
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This has to be so naive.

A man with $4 billion is on his way to make $5 billion. That's how he got the first $million. If you think sitting in the Oval office is going to suddenly change that. Think again.

It's all academic. His chance of winning is extreme. If he's the best the GOP have, be ready for another 4 years out of the White House. He can't win the middle ground where elections are won and lost.
100% speculation.
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Old 07-22-2015, 10:36 AM   #12
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This has to be so naive.

A man with $4 billion is on his way to make $5 billion. That's how he got the first $million. If you think sitting in the Oval office is going to suddenly change that. Think again.

It's all academic. His chance of winning is extreme. If he's the best the GOP have, be ready for another 4 years out of the White House. He can't win the middle ground where elections are won and lost.
Yet if we observe him we see that he's willing to speak out against the danger of vaccines, so hence he's not just after money, he's actually willing to put himself at risk by speaking the truth against the corporate agenda, this is not a man chasing his next Billion, it's a man who wants to fix America.
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There is zero chance Trump is gonna be president so don't worry about it
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Old 07-22-2015, 10:58 AM   #14
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Yet if we observe him we see that he's willing to speak out against the danger of vaccines, so hence he's not just after money, he's actually willing to put himself at risk by speaking the truth against the corporate agenda, this is not a man chasing his next Billion, it's a man who wants to fix America.
i can never figure out whether you are just having fun trolling or if you are really that crazy
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yes I agree with the previous poster that he absolutely will not be presdent.
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mccain was a war hero 45 years ago and since then continually tarnished that reputation. Trumps insult is just a manifestation of that tarnish.
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First of all, Trump never said McCain wasn't a war hero. He said he wasn't a hero. There is a difference. We use the term "hero" way too often these days. A hero is someone that goes above and beyond what is expected at great peril to themselves. The first responders on 9/11 were heroes. They rushed up into the WTC while people were rushing out. That is over and above. There are inherent risks associated with being in the military...things that they face everyday during wartime. One of those risks is capture by the enemy. Being a POW does not make someone a hero. Being a POW, being tortured and refusing to collaborate with the enemy ---- THAT makes you a hero. McCain, on the other hand, did collaborate with the North Vietnamese. All members of our military, including those who were POWs deserve our gratitude for their sacrifice and service to their country. But a hero is something extra special.

I did not hear Trump once say that McCain didn't serve honorably. I didn't hear him belittle his service. What I did hear was McCain insulting Americans by calling them crazies. What I did hear was Trump calling McCain out on his failure to protect our veterans. What I did hear was Trump calling McCain out on his failure to secure our border and protect Americans.

What has the political elite and media outlets nearly having a stroke is that Trump is not reacting to their ridicule of him like others that they have smeared in the past. He is not bowing down to the PC police. He is not going to play the game of the namby pamby politicians. I think it is great that Trump released the cell phone number of Graham...what did Graham expect would happen when he publicly called him a jackass? Anyone who knows anything about Trump knows that he goes tit for tat with those who challenge or insult him. Keep stirring the pot Donald...can't wait to see the veins pop out on the foreheads of most of your fellow debaters."
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At the end of all this people need to realize one thing.

They go into Politics to get paid. NOTHING else.
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The difference is that Trump would actually be a real leader, one who Americans could be proud of
I'm no fan of McCain, but why would you be proud of Trump, and not proud of McCain? (as president I mean)
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McCain probably sucked cocks for candy bars while locked up.
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First of all, Trump never said McCain wasn't a war hero. He said he wasn't a hero. There is a difference. "
I actually went to Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k1ajHAeXMU) and listened to what he said, which is: "He?s a war hero ?cause he was captured. I like people that weren?t captured", "and I believe he is perhaps a war hero."

When you watch the entire speech and put in the context of the ad hominem attacks prevalent in politics then it is pretty much a non event.

As well the various comments attributed to him about Mexicans are wildly out of context. I don't think I have seen anyone misrepresented by the media as much as Trump has been.

I can't believe it myself, but I would seriously consider voting for this guy, especially considering the alternatives.
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