News Selling my car & a new site

[NatalieK]

Well, after much thought & negotiations. My partner & I are going to sell our car to purchase a new website name, a new server address & host, a new designer & new billing company.

A whole new look on a lot of content!

Obviously we have a remarkable amount of high quality content, great niches & a need to be in the business, especially selling our pride & joy, skyline GTR to make this work. However, listening to many, especially Sly, many have mentioned the design & structure.

Now, offering maybe a job or career? Maybe we're interested in hiring a project manager..... is some one interested?

I think we have our new name for my website, & we're probably staying with adulthosting.com as they're a remarkable company. However, is taking epoch up for billing with ccbill as second tier a good idea or is ccbill enough on it's on & is zuzana a worthy company or would you recommend anyone else?

This is a serious business opportunity & I'd appreciate reality answers, especially as I'm pissed at my man selling our GTR just to pay for all the new redesign & further our business, thanks

[candyflip]

Nobody cares Gary.

[MiamiBoyz]

I don't see what could possibly go wrong with such a well thought out business plan.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Well, after much thought & negotiations. My partner & I are going to sell our car to purchase a new website name, a new server address & host, a new designer & new billing company.

Hi Gary,

Forgive me for asking, but why sell your car just to get all of that? It seems like a huge risk. Why not consider the following?

- Hire a designer like Zuzana Designs to put together a few pages for you, then copy those pages for the rest of your site? (Or just download a free template from somewhere and customize it yourself?)

- Rent a server or just get some cheap hosting at any of a bazillion hosting companies out there?

- I'm sure you didn't mean you want to purchase a billing company, but what was wrong with the one you had? And why not use any of the great billing providers in the adult arena now such as Netbilling, CCBill or Epoch?

- I hope you're not planning to spend a lot of money on a domain name. If the one you want is already taken, why not try for a different name?

I think you already have lots of content, right? If that's the case, you already have lots of what you need, and everything else you need is near-free. If you like, hit me up on Skype and I would be happy to help you out.

[Rob]

Talk about taking the proverbial plunge! No checking the pool for depth, just decided to dive right in, heh? Best of luck to you.

[NatalieK]

Hang on, I thought you guys were going to give suggestions for business opportunities?

Mark, After moving to Spain with my partner, Gary & I have filmed some amazing outdoor content & cumshot creampie content, yet we're being told our website, is not worthy of selling. So, now we're left knowing if we spend a few grand on a design from zuzana it shall be sellable, especially when many have said the content was admirable & saleable, the problem was the design.

Left with little income from the poor design. We feel a massive overhaul is needed, especially when those that have personally met us, have personally spoke with us & have realized what a great open, true & honest couple we are. A full make over of the shop door is needed

[plaster]

Oh man... what a mess. Funny thing is everything you want, I have available for free.

What are your daily uniques and how many vids do you have on storage?

[Rochard]

Sounds to me like you are all over the place. You have a site and a company, and have shot what you consider great content, but.... why start from scratch? If your car is running rough, you don't tear it down and rebuild it from scratch?

Why not have a long talk with someone in the industry who knows a little bit about what they are doing and who might be wiling to give some advice.

Either way... Best of luck you guys.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Hang on, I thought you guys were going to give suggestions for business opportunities?

Mark, After moving to Spain with my partner, Gary & I have filmed some amazing outdoor content & cumshot creampie content, yet we're being told our website, is not worthy of selling. So, now we're left knowing if we spend a few grand on a design from zuzana it shall be sellable, especially when many have said the content was admirable & saleable, the problem was the design.

Left with little income from the poor design. We feel a massive overhaul is needed, especially when those that have personally met us, have personally spoke with us & have realized what a great open, true & honest couple we are. A full make over of the shop door is needed

Have you thought about licensing your content?

[rogueteens]

going with new billing will destroy any confidence you have with existing affiliates but having said that, have a look at sliiing, they are pretty good from an affiliate POV and you'll be able to keep on using ccbill with the advantage of having a few back-up processors built in.

I agree that your sites need a redesign. at the moment they seem strangely soulless. what you need to do in my opinion is to just downsize. drop all of your sites except the main one, change that one so that its much more personal to Natalie. really push it as an "adventures of an amateur swinger" site (dump the idea of calling her a pornstar and really push the amateur side of things). your site needs more focus, at the moment you want her to be a swinger, a pornstar, a hotwife, a cheat and a whore, you are cuckolded, an interested observer and a pimp - that gets confusing for a surfer, concentrate on just one aspect and stick to it through the tour when telling the surfer whats inside.
You also really need to find someone to write your texts for you, sorry Gary but some of what you have written on your sites is rather painful to read - maybe actually get her to write it? or even ask her to talk about the shoot, record then transcript it as the sales text, it'll sound much more natural that way.

[sandman!]

good luck and hit me up if you need some new hosting

[AllAboutCams]

Have luck and post some updates

[MrPay]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Hang on, I thought you guys were going to give suggestions for business opportunities?

Mark, After moving to Spain with my partner, Gary & I have filmed some amazing outdoor content & cumshot creampie content, yet we're being told our website, is not worthy of selling. So, now we're left knowing if we spend a few grand on a design from zuzana it shall be sellable, especially when many have said the content was admirable & saleable, the problem was the design.

Left with little income from the poor design. We feel a massive overhaul is needed, especially when those that have personally met us, have personally spoke with us & have realized what a great open, true & honest couple we are. A full make over of the shop door is needed

Hi GspotProductions,

Congratulations on the brave move. Seems like lot of changes at once and some bold decisions on the horizon are about to be made. No need to jump on deep water right away unless you are certain and the risk factors are known to you at least to some extent. I am sure with some stamina and persistence things will work out!

You got some good advices here on keeping your cost under control and i would like to give you another one.

Consider SecurionPay gateway platform as your future partner. We can give you a significant cost advantage in comparison to other billers, especially IPSP and that will leave some nice money in your pocket for the start.

Since you are now in Europe and we are here as well (actually i am in Spain right now too) the communication will be way easier and immediate. Further to that we can improve your payment forms and overall conversion.

Think about this and contact me if we can support you. You will save both time and money working with us!

And good luck most of all!

L

[RyuLion]

Two Sig images are broken: GspotProductions, Rob

[xFoundry]

Check out WyldeSites.com, or adult-html.com.

[DVTimes]

arsewithclass.com and all your sites have been down for days Gary.

You have said you have found it hard to pay your server bill.

Conclusion is you made no cash and have to sell what you can.

I am not sure anyone will want to buy a domain name that's been offline so long and content that does not sell.

Anyway Gary, good luck.

[DVTimes]

By the way Gary, as you have closed your sites or run out of cash to host them, did you warn your affiliates to remove there links, or will they still be promoting sites that are not online?

[Freedom6995]

http://www.arsewithclass.com/ Is that you? You're down atm.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by Freedom6995

http://www.arsewithclass.com/ Is that you? You're down atm.

Been down almost a week. With all his other sites too.

[Roald]

http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me

[k0nr4d]

pics of the gtr?

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Roald

http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me

Works here too, content looks great.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by Roald

http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me

The new site looks better.

[scarlettcontent]

good luck. need content hit us up

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by scarlettcontent

good luck. need content hit us up

We shoot our own content & all is reality inc. the parties & gangbangs, but cheers anyway

Originally Posted by DVTimes

did you warn your affiliates to remove there links, or will they still be promoting sites that are not online?

We've always held an acceptable use status & kept in contact with our affiliates. Therefore yes, we've emailed all our affiliates & explained our situation. We're dramatic, but wait & see what happens next

Hey divvy, strange I always answer you without any stupid remarks, maybe you can learn to grow up & do similar

Originally Posted by MrPay

Hi GspotProductions,

Congratulations on the brave move.

Consider SecurionPay gateway platform as your future partner. We can give you a significant cost advantage in comparison to other billers, especially IPSP and that will leave some nice money in your pocket for the start.

Since you are now in Europe and we are here as well (actually i am in Spain right now too) the communication will be way easier and immediate. Further to that we can improve your payment forms and overall conversion.

Think about this and contact me if we can support you. You will save both time and money working with us!

And good luck most of all!

Thanks for the luck & hi also!

wondering, I see epoch now has paypal, this is the only reason I wondered about having a second tier, giving many people the paypal option, can you also provide this or would your company only give the second tier options, similar to ccbill who we are happy with & shall continue using as first tier?

Originally Posted by rogueteens

going with new billing will destroy any confidence you have with existing affiliates

I agree that your sites need a redesign. at the moment they seem strangely soulless. what you need to do in my opinion is to just downsize. drop all of your sites except the main one, change that one so that its much more personal to Natalie. really push it as an "adventures of an amateur swinger" site (dump the idea of calling her a pornstar and really push the amateur side of things). your site needs more focus, at the moment you want her to be a swinger, a pornstar, a hotwife, a cheat and a whore, you are cuckolded, an interested observer and a pimp - that gets confusing for a surfer, concentrate on just one aspect and stick to it through the tour when telling the surfer whats inside.
You also really need to find someone to write your texts for you, sorry Gary but some of what you have written on your sites is rather painful to read - maybe actually get her to write it? or even ask her to talk about the shoot, record then transcript it as the sales text, it'll sound much more natural that way.

We're not changing our billing company, we're going to add a second tier, as suggested from many in the past. Also, we're already speaking of down sizing, a brand new website designed by a new designer, hence the thread. Interviews are in question, I'm wondering whether to do this for my next venture, vlogs etc, but as said, in question as I do not like to speak much, I prefer to do

I think offering a designer like zuzana the choice of what they feel the site should look like would bring the focus together, don't you?

Originally Posted by **********

Have you thought about licensing your content?

I think this could be a great idea, cheers Mark

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Roald

http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me

[ruff]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Well, after much thought & negotiations. My partner & I are going to sell our car to purchase a new website name, a new server address & host, a new designer & new billing company.

A whole new look on a lot of content!

Obviously we have a remarkable amount of high quality content, great niches & a need to be in the business, especially selling our pride & joy, skyline GTR to make this work. However, listening to many, especially Sly, many have mentioned the design & structure.

Now, offering maybe a job or career? Maybe we're interested in hiring a project manager..... is some one interested?

I think we have our new name for my website, & we're probably staying with adulthosting.com as they're a remarkable company. However, is taking epoch up for billing with ccbill as second tier a good idea or is ccbill enough on it's on & is zuzana a worthy company or would you recommend anyone else?

This is a serious business opportunity & I'd appreciate reality answers, especially as I'm pissed at my man selling our GTR just to pay for all the new redesign & further our business, thanks

Good luck with your new site. You can always get another car later on.

[michael.kickass]

Post a pic of your car.

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Well, after much thought & negotiations. My partner & I are going to sell our car to purchase a new website name, a new server address & host, a new designer & new billing company.

A whole new look on a lot of content!

Obviously we have a remarkable amount of high quality content, great niches & a need to be in the business, especially selling our pride & joy, skyline GTR to make this work. However, listening to many, especially Sly, many have mentioned the design & structure.

Now, offering maybe a job or career? Maybe we're interested in hiring a project manager..... is some one interested?

I think we have our new name for my website, & we're probably staying with adulthosting.com as they're a remarkable company. However, is taking epoch up for billing with ccbill as second tier a good idea or is ccbill enough on it's on & is zuzana a worthy company or would you recommend anyone else?

This is a serious business opportunity & I'd appreciate reality answers, especially as I'm pissed at my man selling our GTR just to pay for all the new redesign & further our business, thanks

[Sly]

Your second-tier biller will pick up around 10-15% of lost sales. Until that lost 10-15% can pay for the second-tier biller, it's not something you should be spending your money on. Do that later when you are making sales.

Remember 10-15% of nothing is still nothing, focus on changing that nothing.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

We're not changing our billing company, we're going to add a second tier, as suggested from many in the past. Also, we're already speaking of down sizing, a brand new website designed by a new designer, hence the thread. Interviews are in question, I'm wondering whether to do this for my next venture, vlogs etc, but as said, in question as I do not like to speak much, I prefer to do

I think offering a designer like zuzana the choice of what they feel the site should look like would bring the focus together, don't you?

you missed my point about getting Natalie to talk and be transcribed. what i meant was when you post an update on the tour, get her to talk about the experience and use that as the sales text - it makes it more personal.

I'm pretty sure that most designers will do a design based on what you want rather than what they think you want and at the moment, you don't really seem to have a clear idea of what direction you want your site to be. After all, if you want Natalie to be portrayed as a pornstar then you'll want a flashy tour but if you go down the amateur route then you'll need a grittier-looking tour. I still think that at the moment you are trying to have your site covering too many bases and needs to be more focused. After all, whats the point of spending cash only to be back where you started, not making money.

[SekobA]

Good luck with your future plans

[clickity click]

I only know you as Gary as that's what everyone calls you but you protest gary is your fella.
What is your name. I vaguely remember Natelie or something, is that right?

DVTimes, it's pretty clear they are trying to improve the website and have abandoned arsewithclass (shitty name) for something better.
Well done for noticing that their site was offline like they didn't already know.

[MaDalton]

whenever i read "my partner" i want to scream at my screen

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by clickity click

I only know you as Gary as that's what everyone calls you but you protest gary is your fella.
What is your name. I vaguely remember Natelie or something, is that right?

DVTimes, it's pretty clear they are trying to improve the website and have abandoned arsewithclass (shitty name) for something better.
Well done for noticing that their site was offline like they didn't already know.

ALL his sites seem to be down, inc:

gspotcash.net (his webmaster site to promote all his 6 sites)

[clickity click]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

whenever i read "my partner" i want to scream at my screen

Why is that?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by clickity click

Why is that?

He likes to scream at his partner.

[420]

Why not use the car as a mobile brothel instead? I bet gary could suck 5+ cocks an hour.

[DVTimes]

So I take it the prostitution at £500 for a night of unprotected sex (bareback) is not making you much cash then.

AdultWork.com - Adult Service Providers & Erotic Content - Escorts, Webcammers, SMS & Phone Chat/Sex, Movies, Galleries & Auctions

Things do not seem to be going too well for you Gary.

Hope things improve.

[clickity click]

Originally Posted by michael.kickass

Post a pic of your car.

[TisMe]

Keep the car, sell the camera.

[OneHungLo]

Why is arsewithclass.com down?

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Sly

Your second-tier biller will pick up around 10-15% of lost sales. Until that lost 10-15% can pay for the second-tier biller, it's not something you should be spending your money on. Do that later when you are making sales.

Remember 10-15% of nothing is still nothing, focus on changing that nothing.

Thank you Sly, so to begin, we'll buy a new domain, have it designed by zuzana, if she is mostly recommended, unless anyone else wants to quote or is recommended.

Originally Posted by rogueteens

you missed my point about getting Natalie to talk and be transcribed. what i meant was when you post an update on the tour, get her to talk about the experience and use that as the sales text - it makes it more personal.

I'm pretty sure that most designers will do a design based on what you want rather than what they think you want and at the moment, you don't really seem to have a clear idea of what direction you want your site to be. After all, if you want Natalie to be portrayed as a pornstar then you'll want a flashy tour but if you go down the amateur route then you'll need a grittier-looking tour. I still think that at the moment you are trying to have your site covering too many bases and needs to be more focused. After all, whats the point of spending cash only to be back where you started, not making money.

I'm considering a go pro for selfie vids before a movie, where I can speak about the set I'm about to be filmed in. I think surfers would like this & if I keep my clothes on while filming the intro, I can always post to youtube, as well as the porn tubes. Thanks for the idea of intros & being more personal

Originally Posted by SekobA

Good luck with your future plans

thankyou

Originally Posted by DVTimes

Things do not seem to be going too well for you

Life is going extremely well here in Spain tbh! Since here, we relax while working much more. Get out & enjoy the places, the outdoors, the pool & appreciate great food & plenty of drink. Lifes good

[pornmasta]

lol at:

[Zuzana Designs]

If your content is good and the surfers have an interest in what you have to offer, the design isn't the be-all and end-all aspect of your site.

While we would love to do an amazing site from the ground up for you, it's not something we advise selling your car to make happen. Our solid advice would be to scale down to one site as suggested, and consider using Elevated X with a hosting package. You could use their default templates and we could do a nice logo/header/background design to customize them a little. Then you could see how the site did and what adjustments you need to make ? or if the site will even work at all, since sadly not everyone who wants to make a great site is actually successful at it.

It?s great to try, but you don?t need to put so much risk into it. Start off small and build your design and additional sites if you like as you gain more revenue. That way if it doesn?t work out, you can walk away losing a small investment.

You seem determined to make money in this business and willing to put in the time. Cams are your friend and I see you working them. That's what it takes. Keep creating content and figure out the best way to utilize your traffic if this is your passion. Remember to keep it simple and content is king.

If you want to chat send me an email anytime to sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com. I will give you my honest advice to help you succeed.

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Why is arsewithclass.com down?

A few weeks ago he said he could not cover the cost of hosting his sites.

One presumes that he has no cash to pay the server bill.

Otherwise why pull the sites (all of them) and loose all the traffick.

When he first started we all told him (1) the name sucked, and (2) not to have 6 sites but keep with the one. If he had taken the advise, things would have been so much better. In truth now seems to be in a real mess.

Oh well. He never listens to advice. Never has and probably never will.

He could have made a lot of money if he had taken advice many years ago.

If I was him, I would go do something else before he ends up bankrupt. The danger he has is he will end up selling his car just to cover the cost of his server host. Then when he still makes not much from sales he will end up having no cash.

Gary your in Spain. There are many opportunities to make money in Spain.

Also webcam should make you good money. My mate sucks at webcam (I mean she is really bad) but even she makes £400 or more each night.

If your honest Gary, and sat and did a profit and loss. I suspect you would find that your making an overall loss from your sites each month. Its probably in your interest to stop as clearly your struggling.

But because you are Gary and think you know it all, you will carry on and keep telling people sign up and promote your site(s) and blag it that they sell. And in time you will end up broke.

As I say, I hope it goes well. But sadly I suspect your just throwing money away.

The truth is the content you shoot is not sexy. Until you start to shoot nice content, your never going to make much in sales. Your main problem is in most of your content Nat simply does not look like she wants to be in the pics. She looks unhappy.

As a webmaster you also come across as desperate. You beg people to promote your sites. On forums you offer free access. From the start it was clear you had no idea (even the basics) on what you were doing. You took no advice from anyone, convinced that your way would prove correct, yet it never has.

The truth is, the good times have gone. Do you really think a new look or new domain name is going to suddenly make you lots of cash?

If you want to make money Gary, get the content sorted first. What you have posted on this site, twitter and so on, has in most cases been ugly. And one presumes thats your best, so heck knows how bad everything else is. Before you waste money on a new design, shoot content that people will want to see.

And if you cannot shoot good content, then look for something else to do.

An old saying is a bad workman blames his tools. And that's what you do. You never accept that the problem you have is that your content is junk. You can have the best looking site in the world, but if the product is horrid, it simply will not sell.

And just because you get some sales, do not presume that means what your selling lots of people want. The C5 sold. But in the end it was a flop (mainly because the electronics sucked).

The problem you have Gary is because you get a few sales, you presume that means you have a product that could sell and as such you carry on regardless producing more of your rubbish content.

You may have a lot of content, but its a lot of junk.

STOP

Go look at content from other sites.

Then go shoot nice content.

Do you not understand Gary how important it is that your model (in this case Nat) needs to look happy on the pics. Personally I do not find (and many do not) find Nat attractive. But that does not matter, some people will like the Chav look hot. If it had been me I would have stayed in the UK and just shot Chav content, instead you made the mistake of shooting content that was not right for you. Anyway you have gone to Spain so not much you can do about that now.

But Nat needs to look happy in the pics. She needs to look like she wants to be in the pics. But to be honest she just looks like someone who is just doing it to keep you happy. You have been told this from the start.

Anyway, I know you will ignore my advice and you will just carry on regardless.

In six months you will be back begging for webmasters to promote your new site and in a year be asking why your not making many sales.

[DVTimes]

This is a pic you posted Gary on your twitter site.

This is your content after all these years?

And you wonder why you make no sales.

Do you not understand that Nat does not look happy and the smile looks forced.

Thats before I start on how bad the pic itself is.

Yet you post this as your latest promotion.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Roald

http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

This is a pic you posted Gary on your twitter site.

This is your content after all these years?

And you wonder why you make no sales.

Do you not understand that Nat does not look happy and the smile looks forced.

Thats before I start on how bad the pic itself is.

Yet you post this as your latest promotion.

i don't think it matters how bad the photo is, it just depends on how its marketed, it would never work on a glamour site but is perfect for a "reader's wives" type site BUT i do agree with Divvy, Natalie never looks likes she is enjoying herself - even if she is, she just doesn't LOOK like she is, that really does need to be fixed urgently Gary.
If Natalie doesn't enjoy herself then stop and do something else, if Natalie is truly into doing what you do then she needs to learn to show that on camera.

I honestly think that your site can turn a profit but you are at a very important junction and you really need to think hard about making some huge changes especially in the direction you market your site(s).

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

i don't think it matters how bad the photo is, it just depends on how its marketed, it would never work on a glamour site but is perfect for a "reader's wives" type site BUT i do agree with Divvy, Natalie never looks likes she is enjoying herself - even if she is, she just doesn't LOOK like she is, that really does need to be fixed urgently Gary.
If Natalie doesn't enjoy herself then stop and do something else, if Natalie is truly into doing what you do then she needs to learn to show that on camera.

I honestly think that your site can turn a profit but you are at a very important junction and you really need to think hard about making some huge changes especially in the direction you market your site(s).

Thats right.

The net is full of girl next doors doing content (often free). But they look happy.

Example: Watchersweb Amateur Milf hotwife, midwife, delicious, wife, usa, kansas, penny, meet,, Hot Penny
Watchersweb Amateur Milf wife, sexy, cheeky, playful, scotland,, Cheeky Wife
Watchersweb Amateur Milf football, summer. teenage, boys, notice, me, cigarette, usa, shoot, pictures, new, york,, Jessi's Summer Shoot
Watchersweb Amateur Milf hot, 19, year, old, usa, bath, time,, Lauren's Bath Time

When you look at pics of Nat she looks fedup.

But yes, the cam site may be the best thing. Just keep to that.

But until Nat looks like she is really into it, just forget it.