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Old 10-11-2015, 03:54 PM   #1
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RAF Jets ready to shoot down Russian Jets over Syria

Hmm this is not going to end very well

RAF ready to shoot down Russian aircraft over Syria

RAF Tornados bombing Isis targets in Iraq are to be armed with air-to-air missiles to protect them from attack by Russian aircraft ? as a senior cabinet minister warned that Britain was prepared to shoot down Vladimir Putin?s jets.

Combat aircraft involved in Operation Shader over Iraq will be fitted with Asraam heat-seeking missiles, which can destroy any military aircraft flying today.

A senior defence source said: ?Up till now RAF Tornados have been equipped with 500lb satellite-guided bombs ? there has been no or little air-to-air threat. But in the last week the situation has changed. We need to respond accordingly.?

The move comes as tensions between the West and Russia escalated last night amid claims that Russia?s bombing raids have overwhelmingly ignored the Isis fighters they claim to be targeting and killed 150 civilians and injured 500 more.

RAF ready to shoot down Russian aircraft over Syria | The Sunday Times
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Old 10-11-2015, 03:55 PM   #2
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RAF Given Green Light To Shoot Down Hostile Russian Jets In Syria
As relations between the West and Russia steadily deteriorate, Royal Air Force (RAF) pilots have been given the go-ahead to shoot down Russian military jets when flying missions over Syria and Iraq, if they are endangered by them. The development comes with warnings that the UK and Russia are now "one step closer" to being at war.
RAF Tornado pilots have been instructed to avoid contact with Russian aircraft while engaged in missions for Operation Shader ? the codename for the RAF's anti-Isis work in Iraq and Syria. But their aircraft have been armed with air-to-air missiles and the pilots have been given the green light to defend themselves if they are threatened by Russian pilots.
"The first thing a British pilot will do is to try to avoid a situation where an air-to-air attack is likely to occur ? you avoid an area if there is Russian activity," an unidentified source from the UK's Permanent Joint Headquarters (PJHQ) told the Sunday Times.
"But if a pilot is fired on or believes he is about to be fired on, he can defend himself. We now have a situation where a single pilot, irrespective of nationality, can have a strategic impact on future events."
The RAF Tornados aircraft will be armed with heat-seeking Advanced Short Range Air-to-Air Missiles (Asraams, also called AIM-132 missiles). These weapons, which cost £200,000 each, can reach triple the speed of sound and have a longer range than other air-to-air missiles, allowing RAF pilots to shoot down enemy aircraft without being targeted themselves.
The Sunday Times' report quoted a defence source as saying: "Up till now RAF Tornados have been equipped with 500lb satellite-guided bombs ? there has been no or little air-to-air threat. But in the last week the situation has changed. We need to respond accordingly."
"We need to protect our pilots but at the same time," said another source. "We're taking a step closer to war. It will only take one plane to be shot down in an air-to-air battle and the whole landscape will change."
Russia in Syria
The move comes after Russia's entry into the civil war in Syria in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government forces. The US has branded Russia's involvement as "fundamentally flawed", with the Kremlin facing accusations that it is ignoring IS fighters to go after al-Assad's opponents.
According to a report in the Sunday Times, an appraisal carried out by UK defence officials said: "It took six days for Russia to strike any Isis targets at all. Their air strikes have included moderate opposition groups who have been fighting to defend their areas from Isis. Among the targets hit were three field hospitals."
In the past 24 hours Russia's Defence Ministry said that it has continued its air strikes on IS positions in Hama, Idlib, Latakia and Raqqa. It reported that the attacks resulted in the "complete destruction" of "53 fortified areas and strong points with armament and military hardware", seven ammunition depots, four field camps of "terrorists", one command centre, and artillery and mortar batteries.
On 28 September, when speaking to the US state-run Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Putin ruled out sending ground troops to Syria, saying it was "out of the question".
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Old 10-11-2015, 04:09 PM   #3
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UK and US love provoking Russia
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Old 10-11-2015, 04:13 PM   #4
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Yep we never seem to learn to keep out of other countries. I think this time we have gone to far and if something is not done quickly this will escalate into a war all sides will regret.
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Yep we never seem to learn to keep out of other countries. I think this time we have gone to far and if something is not done quickly this will escalate into a war all sides will regret.
I wonder if World War is wanted by TPTB or if UK is just playing tough guy to scare Putin off, as Putin definitely wouldn't want war with the West
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Old 10-11-2015, 04:19 PM   #6
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I wonder if World War is wanted by TPTB or if UK is just playing tough guy to scare Putin off, as Putin definitely wouldn't want war with the West
TBh Im not sure he cares at this moment in time. If the other report is true about China heading to Syria that will only bolster him up. We are getting into something we wont be able to stop
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TBh Im not sure he cares at this moment in time. If the other report is true about China heading to Syria that will only bolster him up. We are getting into something we wont be able to stop
That's true, this will take on a life of it's own, it will be to hard for any one nation to stop. Then the UN can justify why they should be in control of the planet, which is all rather convenient for them
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Standard rules of engagement. Don't fire unless fired upon. It's been that way as long as I can remember.
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Can Tornados keep with SU 34?
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Makes you wonder what's changed between the cold war and now...
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Old 10-11-2015, 05:18 PM   #11
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What's up with all this bullshit from all these anonymous sources lately...
What's up with all this western anti Russia propaganda... An Ally has every right to defend an Ally... so if putin wants to help restore Assad's order by bombing these so called fucking great goat-fucking rebels... be my fucking quest...
What's up with russian mistakes like bombing field hospitals... That's a problem now? Just pay for the damage like the Americans do when they accidentely bomb a hospital... problem solved...

Jesus fucking Christ... I remember now why i didn't watch the news for a couple of years...

Please push a fucking button and stop fucking whining... instead of this "walking around" manipulating public opinion. People don't fall for these Cold War doctrines anymore... Push a button and stop being hypocrite about it or shut the fuck up....
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There is nothing about this on chineese news. At least those translated to english.

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People don't fall for these Cold War doctrines anymore...
They totally do.

There's already dumb fucks on here posting anti-Russia pics, like it's their patriotic duty or something. The media hasn't even told them to start doing it yet.
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They totally do.
I quess you're right about that...
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-1...n-russian-jets

This is some really ugly posturing. China backs Russia, UK backs US and now we have the "very early" makings of world war 3.
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