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Old 08-15-2018, 01:27 AM   #501
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I was paid what they owed me. (Wasn't a really big amount.)

Took countless emails and tickets and about half a year, but it happened.
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Old 08-15-2018, 01:37 AM   #502
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Got this in my email:

Sign of the times!
Meh, PPS only works if you're good on monitizing the card. Doubt they do so it just doesn't make sense anymore (if ever) to keep the program up.
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:19 AM   #503
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I got a mail after sending a ticket.
wanted to know how i want to get paid.
And than that i am on sort of queue that someday i get paid.
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Old 08-15-2018, 05:34 AM   #504
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Sign of the times!
Hmm I missed that email.. that really sucks..
I'm using PPS with them since I don't want a lot of rebills that I might not get paid for in the future

I see you can choose 35% recurring too, think I'll stick with 60% xD
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:02 AM   #505
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Sign of the times!
Why not just switch everyone to revshare? Not paying on trials makes the PPS program obsolete.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:43 AM   #506
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:56 AM   #507
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Pls pay me, why they say, they pay they pay but no pay!!!!!!!!! Somebody from the the them is here?
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:57 AM   #508
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Pay me pls my money . $300 dollars you can pay me. Pls pls pls
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:40 PM   #509
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are they still not paying?
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Old 11-03-2018, 08:54 PM   #510
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:41 AM   #511
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are they still not paying?
try opening a ticket on https://ltiaffiliates.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

that worked for me
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:24 AM   #512
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are they still not paying?
What i hear there must be several 100's of thousands in motion.
A small % is mine.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:12 PM   #513
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If you are owed by NaughtyAmerica/NaughtyRevenue - there is a good chance you might get paid

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...lass-suit.html
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:40 AM   #514
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It wouldn't be worth promoting them even if you get paid.
I got a PPS signup yesterday and it paid $0. Only if it rebills I will get paid and for that I receive $14(!!)
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Old 11-15-2018, 02:53 AM   #515
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Hello Naughty Johnson, first of all i still didn't got my money cause i am tired of mailing you, morons, the second thing is that i don't give a fuck about what you agree with or not, Scott is a lazy retarded fucker who doesn't give a fuck about his work, Crystal is a lazy fuck also and you all are a bunch of no good lazy fucks and Naughty America needs fuckers like you so you can scam the hard working people and about confronting you i would reallyl ike to meet you in person all of you so we can talk like real people and i would explain to you some things, i hope you all liars who work for naughtyfuckers.com also taste your own medicine one day and you will also have to beg for your money.

I wrote this just to encourage all you affiliates to don't work for this mtf scamming people at naughtyrevenue.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:32 AM   #516
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It wouldn't be worth promoting them even if you get paid.
I got a PPS signup yesterday and it paid $0. Only if it rebills I will get paid and for that I receive $14(!!)
Yep - I got $14! Guess for what?

join option: $239.40 for 365 days recurring at $239.40 for 365 days (Megapack)
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You received $14.00 for this sale.

Fun fact: I've never been on PPS - I always pick revshare for nearly all sponsors.
Looks like they converted a program or whatever.
Since I've pulled NA links months ago, I hopefully never get such mails from them again. =P

PS: I got paid half the sum they owe me just yesterday. Still waiting for the rest, but wanted to tell people that there is at least a chance to get *something*
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Old 11-16-2018, 01:31 AM   #517
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Yep - I got $14! Guess for what?

join option: $239.40 for 365 days recurring at $239.40 for 365 days (Megapack)
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You received $14.00 for this sale.

Fun fact: I've never been on PPS - I always pick revshare for nearly all sponsors.
what a rip off!
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:51 AM   #518
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Yep - I got $14! Guess for what?

join option: $239.40 for 365 days recurring at $239.40 for 365 days (Megapack)
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You received $14.00 for this sale.

Fun fact: I've never been on PPS - I always pick revshare for nearly all sponsors.
Looks like they converted a program or whatever.
omfg what a ripoff!
And yeah I could have sworn I switched to revshare a couple months ago but still got paid PPS. And by paid I mean I got $0 since the 2 signups I got this week didnt rebill
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:36 AM   #519
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And yeah I could have sworn I switched to revshare a couple months ago but still got paid PPS.
I changed to revshare again after writing this but I still get the ridiculous PPS option
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You can vote for the xbiz awards on naughty america. All vote for NM and wait for them when they collect the prize.
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You can vote for the xbiz awards on naughty america. All vote for NM and wait for them when they collect the prize.
Go NA, go! 😂😂😂
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:30 PM   #522
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Glad I don't promote them. Hate chasing payouts
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:50 AM   #524
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Lost regular rebill after payment. Will it back?
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Old 11-26-2018, 02:19 AM   #525
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That's what one of their customers reported:

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As many know, NaughtyAmerica has become a shady company and many people have fallen into their purchase scheme.

Last year I purchased their Black Friday annual special deal and terminated it not too long after to prevent recurring payment. But this morning PayPal sent me an email saying I paid the recurring subscription free.

NaughtyAmerica I've cancelled my account this morning again and took screenshots that I'll save for the year so you'll have no excuses next year.

I'm calling you out and letting everyone out there know not to purchase your memberships.

Everyone, stay away.
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That being said, thank you for signing up again. I think you will be very happy with the VR content coming out.
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How many people got paid on condition that their NA account gets closed? Did you have any ongoing rebills?
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How many people got paid on condition that their NA account gets closed? Did you have any ongoing rebills?
just wow...
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just wow...
I know at least 5 such people and it makes... a case of fraud?

And there's a way to proceed with it for these.
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Its good thing to put all their videos of full length on a public tube site? So they can learn one or two things?
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i got paid today, 503 USD cause stopped promoting after minimum payout. took some months. Now i can buy a christmas dinner. Nice they finally paid, but people are waiting for bigger amounts i understand.
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We got paid. Wasnt a large amount but they did pay us.
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Somebody call beavr, I answered on his question
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i got paid today, 503 USD cause stopped promoting after minimum payout. took some months. Now i can buy a christmas dinner. Nice they finally paid, but people are waiting for bigger amounts i understand.
Wonder what criteria they are using to decide who gets (eventually) paid or not?

Seems completely random.

Maybe they are actually drawing lots every Friday.
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Wonder what criteria they are using to decide who gets (eventually) paid or not?

Seems completely random.

Maybe they are actually drawing lots every Friday.
People stop promoting them after they get paid. I guess the rebills from the larger promoters are used for paying smaller bills.
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Wonder what criteria they are using to decide who gets (eventually) paid or not?

Seems completely random.

Maybe they are actually drawing lots every Friday.
Has anyone who has been paid been asked if they can post a positive response? Wondering if the payment is conditional.
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Has anyone who has been paid been asked if they can post a positive response? Wondering if the payment is conditional.
That would be financial blackmail wouldn't it?

I think people are just so happy they finally got paid, they come on here and brag about it.

One thing I would say about NR is that despite their obvious problems, they don't seem to be shaving affiliates, which I suspect quite a few sponsors would be doing in their situation. Then again, if they're not paying affiliates, I guess they don't have to shave.
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Has anyone who has been paid been asked if they can post a positive response? Wondering if the payment is conditional.
My theory is this.

They pay some people who they know post on forums if those people aren't owed a lot, then those people report on the forums that they got paid leaving a whole bunch wondering if they should be second guessing the 4, 5, 6 figures they are owed.
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My theory is this.

They pay some people who they know post on forums if those people aren't owed a lot, then those people report on the forums that they got paid leaving a whole bunch wondering if they should be second guessing the 4, 5, 6 figures they are owed.
Yeah so if you're one of those who got paid, don't mention it on the boards, as it might fool others into promoting them
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That would be financial blackmail wouldn't it?

I think people are just so happy they finally got paid, they come on here and brag about it.
Perhaps it's not as blatant as "we'll only pay if you praise"... maybe the pressure is more subtle. Really just guessing. I'm sure there's people who are experts at choosing who to pay in order to minimise PR damage.
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I'm owed $xx,xxx. I got one small payment of $xxx and all the other times I've been told they are waiting on money to pay me.
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they probably also pay first those who still send them traffic and sales... if most of your owed $$$$ are from rebills they won't be in a hurry to pay you.
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they probably also pay first those who still send them traffic and sales... if most of your owed $$$$ are from rebills they won't be in a hurry to pay you.
No rebills on my end and have been sending consistent sales.
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Guys are putting together invoices from these who owed to claim payments. You might actually get your money back. This is the final call
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Yeah, the zendesk support system worked for me a couple of times. Past my payout threshold again and sent in another support ticket, two times now with no response this time. Still waiting. I hope they respond and payout. It is one of the only networks that actually converts nowadays and I still like promoting them but damn I hate jumping through hoops to get paid.

Now SensationalCash is a whole nother fucking story. They owe me over $4k with zero response. I want my money and will never deal with Brandon again. I am going to get paid one way or another.
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NaughtyAmerica is actively posting on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/oculusnsfw/...ughty_america/

Try reaching them over there

https://www.reddit.com/user/NaughtyAmerica1776 - seems to be Andreas by himself

https://www.reddit.com/user/NaughtyAmerica-VR - some manager posting their latest scenes

https://www.reddit.com/user/Scott-NaughtyAmerica - our beloved Scott posts once in a while
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I can see they've cut out their revshare program completely now, everything goes to their $14 PPS (you only get paid if the trial converts)..

The reason why I'm mentioning this is that I got this signup today

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so instead of getting 60% of that I'm getting $14
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I can see they've cut out their revshare program completely now, everything goes to their $14 PPS (you only get paid if the trial converts)..

The reason why I'm mentioning this is that I got this signup today



so instead of getting 60% of that I'm getting $14
I do not understand why there are people still promoting it after all these payment issues and the rev share removal...
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I do not understand why there are people still promoting it after all these payment issues and the rev share removal...
I don't, but there are still some links up..
Saw it as an opportunity to bump this thread
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:38 AM   #549
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That doesn't look good at all

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NA Affiliates Take Note: My Account Was Terminated Today

So, after a few weeks of trying to get paid out, and sending out well over 20 emails to Scott, Mike and Crystal at NA, as well as multiple voice mails, i get a message today from Mike that accounting wants me to call in to discuss payout.

Based on comments in the GFY thread, Xbiz and elsewhere, I knew before calling that they were going to shut down my account. NA doesnt ask you to call for anything, or pick up a phone when you call in, or return voice messages. Easy to read between the lines there.

I spoke with George, who if i am not mistaken, is one of the big cheeses/owners at NA.

I was told, among other things during a largely ridiculous conversation, that "I should do business with those that treat me right and pay instantly" and in a true show of class, by the end of the convo, was actually insulted (attmepted anyway) via my geographical location ala "stay in AK where you belong, in the igloo!!! hahahahaha. What is this, the playground? cmon bro. Get a real, relevant insult. (to be fair, I was also droppin F bombs at that point, lol)

Like school on Sunday....no class.

He didnt argue that anything i was saying wasn't true, he simply argued i was saying it, while never offering any specifics about what i had said. In fact "I dont know whats going on on the boards" came out of his mouth at one point. I guess one of the NA minions took exception, lol.

I was told that they didn't like me "taking to the boards to talk about NA affiliate issues" and I responded I was simply echoing commentary already posted, not posting the GFY thread myself for instance or responding to direct questions from others, which i answered honestly.

I was also told that "why didnt you just pick up a phone and say hey assholes, pay me". Well, i did that. At least a dozen times in the last 14 months since they started having trouble paying out, every fucking payout. Same cock n bull routine every time and not one returned phone call from Mike, Scott or Crystal.

George then layed out a sob story about how THEY get screwed over by crooked affiliates, and THEY NEVER take to the boards to talk about that. I fail to see how that's relevant to anything, as I have been nothing but a solid NA affiliate for 2 years now. I told him that was expected to be part and parcel of runnin a large affiliate program, ie. bad actors. I am not a bad actor, dirtbag affiliate.

So because I had the temerity to ask for money owed me repeatedly over the last 14 months, and for taking part in ongoing discussions about the shitbag stuff going on at NA, (ie, the truth about what is going on) i have now been told, "thank you very much, we are done". Shocker. lol

I have to say, it is not the least bit surprising. The least. I fully expected this to happen based on the comments of others that have been excused by NA after asking simply for money owed them. That they had EARNED.

This got turned into, this is MY problem, rather than their problem for not being able to make affiliate payouts.

It didn't matter what I had to say to this guy, I was wrong. And I am right, there is simply no other way to view it. I earned my money from NA. He kept whining about affiliates RIPPING THEM OFF. No matter what i said, it went back to that. You should feel sorry for US.

Honestly, happy to be done with this studio at this point. We have all seen the true colors fly this last couple of months, and i feel dirty at this point, despite warnings on my website, about anyone clicking those scammy links, as I cannot place warnings on every page. I was trying to get one final payout from them, because as near as i can tell from a month of cancel notices and chargebacks, they will be hurting for income next month and the writing on the wall seems pretty clear.

I have done nothing but try to help NA for 2 years now, with scene advice, feedback and a little tough love when they needed it. Cutting trialers for thier movies for peeps to watch when they didnt provide them for affiliates. I can flat out say that there was likely shit changed in NA production that directly improved their product, based on my feedback. This is how they reciprocate. Scott has not had the decency to reply to a single email in the last month, after "knowing" the guy for some 3 years now via this sub.

Current affiliates......beware. Get your money out now if they owe you. New affiliates? Don't even think about it bro.

Wouldn't it be funny if everyone just did a collective......fuck them, and took it upon themselves to drop links/content? We are not far from that point. Treat enough of us like shit, there won't be any left.

Good Luck Naughty America. Nobody does it better. Nobody, in VR, fucks their affiliates harder.



https://www.reddit.com/r/oculusnsfw/...eg9do/na_affil
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculusnsfw/...as_terminated/
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:44 AM   #550
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A program owner with more ego than cash? Nahhh, could never happen.
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