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Old 11-14-2015, 03:49 PM   #51
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You want to know why? Because in the US Muslims and anyone else can come here bust their ass and have opportunity. They don't have the same opportunities in Europe, so it's much easier to brainwash extremist there than here.

It also helps they can't just walk here...
i'm sure they're also very afraid of our gun culture.
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The West has to wake up to the facts. A lot of the is ruled by absolute ruthless bastards, because they're the only ones who can can control absolute ruthless bastards.

It's time to realise Assad is part of the solution, along with boots on the ground.
who doesn't obey will be killed (if they can) - everything else is of little concern to the United States.
PS: Welcome to the real world
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who doesn't obey will be killed (if they can) - everything else is of little concern to the United States.
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bow down ruskie.
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Now they are turning their guns to whoever they feel.

This time it's Paris... who's next?
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Yet you mention nothing of all the Soviet Era and modern Russian arms every terrorist in the world uses..

You sure don't see many tangos with m16s.. With out Russian weapons they would still be using bolt action rifles over there. The ex Soviet union countries have dumped weapons all over the globe but yea blame the U.S.
you want to repeat our mistakes?
we did a world revolution - Now you decide to do it? but why do you use radical Islamism as an ideology?
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i'm sure they're also very afraid of our gun culture.
surprise! they are not afraid to die ...
acts of terrorism are made by suicide bombers...
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Now they are turning their guns to whoever they feel.
This time it's Paris... who's next?
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Old 11-14-2015, 07:54 PM   #58
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ISIS victories in Iraq and elsewhere are how USA materials fall into ISIS control. You certainly don't think USA is selling weapons to ISIS.
no no of course, our gun sellers did a hellavajob working with cheney to sell the Iraq war. thats why they sent in donkeys in tora bora. cant sell guns in Iraq if osama went down in 01.

just gotta ignore the blame-the-usa crowd cause the USA is so big it is blamed for not-doing stuff as much as for doing stuff. So its pointless to even address it. Lefties are always looking to blame-shift to anyone other than the actual crime committers. usually whites, males, & rich people are to blame.

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closing your eyes and pulling the sheet over your head doesn't make the boogie man go away.
If you're talking about Saddam Hussein, there's a lot of people who now wish that boogie man never went away. Same with Gadaffi. Of course hindsite is 20/20.

BTW, I thought the UN was the World's Policemen (Not that I think they are capable of doing anything other than wracking up parking tickets in NYC). Where does it say in our Constitution that spreading "Democracy" and righting the world's wrongs is our job?
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If you're talking about Saddam Hussein, there's a lot of people who now wish that boogie man never went away. Same with Gadaffi. Of course hindsite is 20/20.

BTW, I thought the UN was the World's Policemen (Not that I think they are capable of doing anything other than wracking up parking tickets in NYC). Where does it say in our Constitution that spreading "Democracy" and righting the world's wrongs is our job?
Do you only do what you are told?..
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i'm sure they're also very afraid of our gun culture.
I don't think people who are willing to die to kill others give a shit about our gun culture. They don't have much of a recruitment pool in this country, because the people they would normally recruit actually have the ability to live decent lives in the U.S.
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Do you only do what you are told?..

Not for a very long time. But when I stick my nose where it doesn't belong, I don't always enjoy the consequences.
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It will be interesting to see what the French actually do militarily.
The French Air Force has been flying airstrikes for some time now mainly in Iraq.

Paris was chosen as a soft target: An unarmed population and large Muslim immigrant population.

If you knew Paris, you would know that the area of the attacks were in Parisian neighborhoods that were not in the tourist or better ''well-heeled'' parts of Paris. They were in locations to terrorize the people of Paris and where the terrorist enemy might find sympathetic hosts to harbor them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_a...cal_population

If you blame the USA you might as well blame the Russians too -- both are dropping most of the bombs ... The French Air Force is active in the theatre of operations also.
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Old 11-15-2015, 11:39 AM   #64
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the USA to blame? DINDU!

the USA is never to blame because: DINDU!!!!

the USA is CANDU! it can never du nuffin'!

ISIS popped out by itself just out of the blue for no reason at all, they had nothing better to do than to turn extremist and the decades of US foreign policy had nothing to do with it, they were just SHIT bored and formed for no reason at all

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surprise! they are not afraid to die ...
acts of terrorism are made by suicide bombers...

I lie?

all have risk
right.

that's why you dumbfuck ruskies think an attack on France is actually really an attack on USA.

nevermind the fucking fact that just begs the question- then why the fuck didn't they actually, you know, attack the fucking USA? it's not like that exact same attack could not have happened here Friday.
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I don't think people who are willing to die to kill others give a shit about our gun culture. They don't have much of a recruitment pool in this country, because the people they would normally recruit actually have the ability to live decent lives in the U.S.
yeah, no. you're trying to tell me the terrorists couldn't scrounge up 8 guys in the USA because they're all living it up [at the tiddy bar]? tell that to the 9/11 guys.

there are many factors that play into why that attack was on France and not on AMerica, not the least of which is the fucking terrorists are afraid of the USA.
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right.

that's why you dumbfuck ruskies think an attack on France is actually really an attack on USA.

nevermind the fucking fact that just begs the question- then why the fuck didn't they actually, you know, attack the fucking USA? it's not like that exact same attack could not have happened here Friday.
Attack on France is not an attack on the US. I did not say it. France is a country of NATO, and military aggression against France is in fact an aggression against NATO and the United States is the main NATO country. the USA the policy specially creates problems for allies and solves them. if you do not obey the US - you will attack new monster created by the United States)) isis for example.
so when we bomb the monster(ISIS) - Americans talk about the loss of leadership "putin mast stop bomb isis" "no-fly zone over Syria".
why they didn't attack the USA - why to bite a hand which gives food?
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  1. The US destabalized Iraq in '03 causing a power vacuum.
  2. In '06 a small, shitty militant group called ISIS was formed in Iraq.
  3. They were unsuccessful, and then moved into Syria in 2009.
  4. Fast forward 4 years to 2013, and the US along with a few other countries started sending massive amounts of money, military equipment and training to the "Free Syrian Army".
  5. 1 year later, much of these resources were in the hands of ISIS.
  6. There were intelligence reports that US knew our resources would end up in the hands of ISIS, but we sent them anyways.

This allowed ISIS to become powerful, re-enter Iraq to claim territories and a lot of leftover US military equipment.

A more detailed account of the above information:


So when I get on social media and see so many espousing "#PrayforParis" hashtags, it's discouraging that so few of them truly realize that ISIS's rise to power was only made possible by the government they love so much.

US foreign policy is atrocious. So much of what we do, results in blowback. 9/11 and now Paris.
You are right. The United States should end all of it's activity in the middle east immediately.

I am sure the terrorist attacks will just magically stop.
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yeah, no. you're trying to tell me the terrorists couldn't scrounge up 8 guys in the USA because they're all living it up [at the tiddy bar]? tell that to the 9/11 guys.

there are many factors that play into why that attack was on France and not on AMerica, not the least of which is the fucking terrorists are afraid of the USA.
What? Lol. These mother fuckers are not scared of anyone. They blow themselves up for fuck sake. It's only a matter of time before it happens in America.
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What? Lol. These mother fuckers are not scared of anyone. They blow themselves up for fuck sake. It's only a matter of time before it happens in America.
no. USA has rained down more shit on ME than France by far. combined with the fact terrorists haven't attacked USA when they could have EASILY done so the exact same way as they did Friday.

over-simplifying the reasonS for why didn't they is myopic. some amount of fear exists in all people as an instinctual trait of survival. it's human nature to survive and suicide bombers are trained to fight the natural instinct to survive, and even then, they can withstand that instinct for mere minutes. fear is real and in everyone.

the simple fact is they haven't attacked here and it's not because it's a matter of time. it's for actual concrete reasons, including fear. and not just suicide fear but absolute destruction fear. imagine the USA reaction. we will rain down great walls of mother fucking shit on every fucking nook and cranny we think a fucking shitbag terrorist may even be thinking of hiding anywhere in the world. we'll turn entire regions into miles of nothing. we will give no fuck at all.
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the simple fact is they haven't attacked here and it's not because it's a matter of time. it's for actual concrete reasons, including fear. and not just suicide fear but absolute destruction fear. imagine the USA reaction. we will rain down great walls of mother fucking shit on every fucking nook and cranny we think a fucking shitbag terrorist may even be thinking of hiding anywhere in the world. we'll turn entire regions into miles of nothing. we will give no fuck at all.
jihad is declared by the USA too...
France IMHO it was to stop the flow of refugees and fighters isis to EU.
hatred against Muslims - It allows terrorists to recruit new fighters, and new terrorists.
in the USA small amount Muslims are also not present refugees.
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the simple fact is they haven't attacked here and it's not because it's a matter of time. it's for actual concrete reasons, including fear. and not just suicide fear but absolute destruction fear. imagine the USA reaction. we will rain down great walls of mother fucking shit on every fucking nook and cranny we think a fucking shitbag terrorist may even be thinking of hiding anywhere in the world. we'll turn entire regions into miles of nothing. we will give no fuck at all.
somebody afraid of the USA that has not won a war ever?

reality: you guys could not beat a handful of tiny dick asian farmers after 20 years of war and more bombs than in ww2 on all sides combined...you ate to much asian cocktail sausage that it encouraged others to take on communism

oh and when you do retaliate, like for 9/11 you actually go and bomb the wrong people



why on earth you think somebody is afraid is beyond me LOL

fact is: france was closer...they had guys in the region or whatever...aint nobody afraid of the tiny asian penis taking USA
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somebody afraid of the USA that has not won a war ever?

reality: you guys could not beat a handful of tiny dick asian farmers after 20 years of war and more bombs than in ww2 on all sides combined...you ate to much asian cocktail sausage that it encouraged others to take on communism

oh and when you do retaliate, like for 9/11 you actually go and bomb the wrong people



why on earth you think somebody is afraid is beyond me LOL

fact is: france was closer...they had guys in the region or whatever...aint nobody afraid of the tiny asian penis taking USA
you're too fucking shell-shocked to realize the damage USA inflicts, we may not "win" but we certainly fuck your shit up royally and continue to be the leaders of the [free] world while we leave your fuckwad country a steaming pile of shit.

and you're too fucking stupid to understand human nature and that everyone has fear of dying.
anyone that thinks the terrorists are fearless courageous people is too fucking stupid to participate in this dialogue.
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Not 40 countries, as in governments, but money from people in 40 countries:

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when did this place become an all out usa hate forum? time to flush the trash out now... it's not welcome
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you're too fucking shell-shocked to realize the damage USA inflicts, we may not "win" but we certainly fuck your shit up royally and continue to be the leaders of the [free] world while we leave your fuckwad country a steaming pile of shit.
not saying that you do not fuck shit up royally...you are the fuck up masters of the world...its just that we do not give a shit...

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and you're too fucking stupid to understand human nature and that everyone has fear of dying.
anyone that thinks the terrorists are fearless courageous people is too fucking stupid to participate in this dialogue.
not really...I am not calling terrorists brave, because bravery does not involve killing unarmed people whilst being armed to the tooth yourself...so bravery and courage are not a terrorist trait in any way shape or form...

but fear from dying is another thing completely...I watched your bombs fall and found it amusing...most of us were on the roof tops watching your cruise missiles and bombs destroy shit and we viewed upon this as entertainment...

they are not afraid of dying because the USA has taken away their future, the end...you can not understand this an an american before somebody does it to you...only then can you understand...its like breaking bad...once you lose all hopes of a normal future you lose your fear as well...

nobody is afraid of the USA...france was just closer, and they probably had enough guys in the region
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not saying that you do not fuck shit up royally...you are the fuck up masters of the world...its just that we do not give a shit...



not really...I am not calling terrorists brave, because bravery does not involve killing unarmed people whilst being armed to the tooth yourself...so bravery and courage are not a terrorist trait in any way shape or form...

but fear from dying is another thing completely...I watched your bombs fall and found it amusing...most of us were on the roof tops watching your cruise missiles and bombs destroy shit and we viewed upon this as entertainment...

they are not afraid of dying because the USA has taken away their future, the end...you can not understand this an an american before somebody does it to you...only then can you understand...its like breaking bad...once you lose all hopes of a normal future you lose your fear as well...

nobody is afraid of the USA...france was just closer, and they probably had enough guys in the region
again, this would all make sense if the attack Friday was on USA. it wasn't and there's many reasons for that, not the least of which is fear of USA reprisal. we simply do not give 1 single fuck about what we fuck up in retaliation. ISIS would be dead and gone in 30 days when the fucking USA decides so and strikes accordingly. and the fucking day we get attacked like France did is the fucking day we'd decide to do that.

IS knows that.
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ISIS would be dead and gone in 30 days when the fucking USA decides so and strikes accordingly.
yet 20 years of bombs in vietnam and more bombs and agent orange than ww2 combined, and you got your asses handed to you...reality is a bitch...


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and the fucking day we get attacked like France did is the fucking day we'd decide to do that.
9/11?

who did you attack? IRAQ


oh fuck LOL
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yet 20 years of bombs in vietnam and more bombs and agent orange than ww2 combined, and you got your asses handed to you...reality is a bitch...




9/11?

who did you attack? IRAQ


oh fuck LOL
dumbfuck, USA is #1. viet nam is #143. it's pretty clear who won.

and dumbfuck, iraq is a shithole now, and al quaeda is a mere shadow of its former self.
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dumbfuck, USA is #1. viet nam is #143. it's pretty clear who won.
and dumbfuck, iraq is a shithole now, and al quaeda is a mere shadow of its former self.
№1 is not to win the war
abu bakr al baghdadi - lider isis from al qaeda = and they have called themselves the State
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dumbfuck, USA is #1. viet nam is #143. it's pretty clear who won.

and dumbfuck, iraq is a shithole now, and al quaeda is a mere shadow of its former self.
you lost in vietnam like you lost in iraq...alqaueda is a shadow and ISIS is not...some progress LOL

you guys never win <-----fact

you just dont...
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who here hates the United States and why do you think that?

world is one)) it will be right: the leader of 1/4 it part of world
PS:and the sun does not shine only for Americans

№1 is not to win the war
abu bakr al baghdadi - lider isis from al qaeda = and they have called themselves the State
No dumfuck ruskie, Akbar bagdhadi is not from al qaeuda.
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Old 11-16-2015, 03:10 PM   #84
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you lost in vietnam like you lost in iraq...alqaueda is a shadow and ISIS is not...some progress LOL

you guys never win <-----fact

you just dont...
No dumbfuck serb, USA did not invent radical Islam.
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No dumfuck ruskie, Akbar bagdhadi is not from al qaeuda.
Al-Qaeda (2006-2013)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi
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No dumbfuck serb, USA did not invent radical Islam.
you created al qaeda - "al qaeda " even invented a name

Abu Du'a is a Specially Designated Global Terrorist under U.S. Executive Order 13224. He is also listed at the United Nations Security Council 1267/1989 al-Qaida Sanctions Committee.
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No dumbfuck serb, USA did not invent radical Islam.
"radical islam" LOL...christians drop 99.9999% of all bombs but they are not "radical christians" and the USA invades more countries than the roman empire but its not "radical christianity"...

sure you invented "radical islam" it sells newspapers and gets your war lobby their bitch votes...you are 56x more likely to be shot by a US cop but "radical islam" is the problem LOL

oh and you are terrorists LOL...terrorism: use of violence to achieve political goals <----next to the definition theres a small american flag LOL
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ba...#US_internment

It's the USA's catch and release policy...
Could have this whole cluster fuck been avoided?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ba...#US_internment

It's the USA's catch and release policy...
Could have this whole cluster fuck been avoided?
at the time he began working for the CIA, as well as other leaders isis
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I thought the FSB recruited him after his release

Oops ... airplanes fall from the sky ...
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  1. The US destabalized Iraq in '03 causing a power vacuum.
  2. In '06 a small, shitty militant group called ISIS was formed in Iraq.
  3. They were unsuccessful, and then moved into Syria in 2009.
  4. Fast forward 4 years to 2013, and the US along with a few other countries started sending massive amounts of money, military equipment and training to the "Free Syrian Army".
  5. 1 year later, much of these resources were in the hands of ISIS.
  6. There were intelligence reports that US knew our resources would end up in the hands of ISIS, but we sent them anyways.

This allowed ISIS to become powerful, re-enter Iraq to claim territories and a lot of leftover US military equipment.

A more detailed account of the above information:


So when I get on social media and see so many espousing "#PrayforParis" hashtags, it's discouraging that so few of them truly realize that ISIS's rise to power was only made possible by the government they love so much.

US foreign policy is atrocious. So much of what we do, results in blowback. 9/11 and now Paris.
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I thought the FSB recruited him after his release

Oops ... airplanes fall from the sky ...
there is anecdotal evidence: Qatar buy Egyptian intelligence for to blow up the plane.
US air base in Qatar on the size half of the country))

We talked about how the Israeli attack on the airport in Damascus
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Its bizarro how the gfy ruskies here conveniently forget about the Russian passenger jet IS just blew up, while they point their crooked ruskie finger at USA re: IS attacking France.
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if the US was to blame, then the US would have been attacked.

we weren't.
We're not to blame, but if ISIS could have gotten to us they would have... in a NY minute.

They hate us the most.

The bad news here is that they may eventually find the means to do so.
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Its bizarro how the gfy ruskies here conveniently forget about the Russian passenger jet IS just blew up, while they point their crooked ruskie finger at USA re: IS attacking France.
The GFY russkies here are annoying to say the least.

But.. if Putin wants to spend the $$ and lives necessary to stomp out (or at least weaken) ISIS, I'm cool with that. After all, questioning the morals of whoever stomps on a cockroach seems rather, shall we say, non productive
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Its not liberal bullshit driving this. Its straight up ultra right-wing.
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I'm not sure what you mean. could you rephrase?
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
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WOW I really hope you're just trolling and don't really believe this bullshit! God I hate when idiots blame everything on the USA! If were so fucking bad then why is it other countries beg for our help with shit hits the fan? When weather causes mass chaos who is it that comes to the rescue?

Tom
Removing Saddam allowed less vicious rulers to gain control. Their in fighting led to the rise of more terrorists. The West's dislike of Assad has allowed ISIS to grow. Same goes for Gaddafi, look at how his removal ended up.

We need wake up to the fact in a pride of lions, the baddest rules.
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You want to know why? Because in the US Muslims and anyone else can come here bust their ass and have opportunity. They don't have the same opportunities in Europe, so it's much easier to brainwash extremist there than here.

It also helps they can't just walk here...
Rubbish, it's because the US has learned to retaliate with deadly force. This isn't about the Muslims who migrate to work and make a life for themselves. It's about brain dead ones who think god will make everything right. Led by people who want power and wealth.

Now tell us you don't have those freaks.

World Trade Centre, 9/11 with pilots were trained in the US, terrorists don't need to be in the US to target and kill Americans.
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Yet you mention nothing of all the Soviet Era and modern Russian arms every terrorist in the world uses..

You sure don't see many tangos with m16s.. With out Russian weapons they would still be using bolt action rifles over there. The ex Soviet union countries have dumped weapons all over the globe but yea blame the U.S.
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