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11-30-2015, 01:16 AM
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So I See MFC Had A Glitch And Revealed Income of Top 250 Camgirls
Reading a cam girl forum, this glitch happened a month ago and looks like it caused quite a tizzy. Just like in the affiliate game the top 20% make as much as the rest. the Pareto Principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle
Top MFC model makes $1M and from what I read she's Non Nude
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11-30-2015, 02:25 AM
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A while back there was a model on there that explained how much top models can make. She had been the top model several times and said the girl who finishes #1 will make between $120K and $180K that month with #2 not being far behind.
When you look at their top rankings for each moth there are a handful of girls that seem to finish in the Top 10 most months so I wouldn't be shocked to hear all of them make around a million a year. |
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11-30-2015, 02:41 AM
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11-30-2015, 02:44 AM
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That's true but the same girl doesn't finish #1 each month, the top girls work huge hours, once they are superstars they begin taking more time off. In fact there's a girl who I think is the 5th ranked but her top months are in a tier of their own, if she made that each month she'd be making $1.5M.
The drop from each ranking spot is pretty significant, 2nd place was $800K and change, when you get down to #50, which is still a very high rank considering how many girls are on the site, a girl is making about $125K. Most of the girls around that spot could be in the top 20 but they don't work the days/hours necessary. Then add on the value of the crap they get gifted to them from their wish lists.
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11-30-2015, 02:59 AM
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Of course this couldn't possibly be a marketing drive.
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11-30-2015, 03:07 AM
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And imagine how much MFC makes / month...
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11-30-2015, 04:28 AM
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There IS a hell of money in cams...
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There's no "antitrust" algorithm in MFC, adding one would be the only way to shuffle the success amongst new girls in more"fair market" terms, but it may not be good for the total sales=profits of the site, I am not sure, the lottery top rooms work better for the lottery effect; what if every model earned the same amount, no one got the dream of the million dollar earned by that one top model you can try to emulate. https://twitter.com/iSonnyLucas/stat...78721954385921 https://twitter.com/iSonnyLucas/stat...08236154736640 So in 2015 10 months, from #1 to #50 there is a dramatic change, in 2015 #1 = 703k, #10=350k (halved in just +10), #40 = $116k (one quarter after +40, halved in +30), 49 = 55k (1/8, halved again after just 9), and #50 = 33k, lost 2/5 in just +1 position. Interesting to note that those after 40th earned "so few" just because been online few months, like 2-5 months, it is not models who been online every month. So the models being online every month lower in total earning, are making even less per month despite being online 2 to 5 times more months than these models. Period 2009-2014 also is to be considered counting what years the models have worked. For example first 2 Jalyn, AspenRae been online 2010-2014 and made $2.3m and $1.8m (from 8m-11m tokens a year), but GinnyPotter been online one year less, 2011-2014 and made $1.8m so earning a little more than AspenRae in average (12m tokens in 2014). LexxiStar been online only 2012-2014, one year less and earned $1.7m so made even more per year (18m tokens in 2014). It is interesting to note that CrazyM/GoldenLady worked all years, from 2009 to 2014, still made only $889k, and further, her tokens dropped every year from $4.8m in 2010 to $604k in 2014. I think the earning per year is more useful/meaningful than the totals since 2009.
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11-30-2015, 05:14 AM
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in those stats note that the 'Total Tokens' only counts tokens earned in the months the girl made the top 100, even in the months when these top girls take a lot of time off they're still making money with offline tips.
looking over that top 50 list it looked to me that the lowest token count to make Top100 was about 270,000 tokens but I just noticed a girl who had 71,000 tokens - that's only $3550. The difference between #1 and #101 is enormous.
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11-30-2015, 05:15 AM
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Some post in the camgirl forums:
-- Today, an angry member messaged me saying he saw the glitch and he knows how much we make and won't be tipping anymore (me I guess) because we obviously don't need it. Dude, I am ranked #1500 right now. Me and thousands of other girls make a little fracture of what a girl at #250 makes. -- -- there are 24,000 models on MFC. The top 250 is 1.04% of the models. The top 100 is .4% of the models. The top 20 is .08% of the models. -- -- #250 was making about 10% of what number 1 was. The 80/20 rule is completely destroyed on MFC. It's not 20% of the models making 80% of the income, but more like 1%-ish making well over 90% of the income. Then everyone else fighting over that last 10%. -- -- my first month ever (January 2010) I finished #229 with only 53,191 tokens. Compare that to how much you need to be top 250 now (you need 3-4x as much). Crazy. --
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some of these girls who are making over $200,000 and more will complain that things are slow or they have some big car repair or medical bill, trying to get sympathy tokens from idiots who make $50,000 a year driving a truck.
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11-30-2015, 07:46 AM
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So we know the turn over of MFC and from that we can deduce the amount paid to girl and then apply the 20/80 rule.
Anyone got a link to MFC's turnover? Because without that figure, this is like sticking a tail on a donkey. |
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11-30-2015, 09:32 AM
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Federer makes 80m year
#300 makes $200k/yr Mayweather makes 100m/yr #300 makes $100k/yr "Jay Z" makes 200m/yr Rapper 300 makes $0 Top hedge fund guy makes 1bil/yr #300 makes .... well, he still makes a lot. 20m High risk high reward, usually only the top few make it big |
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How much overhead would I need to start my own webcam company so I can take the #1 cut?..
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11-30-2015, 11:23 AM
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Obviously to make things fair MFC should beat the top models with an ugly stick or degrade their video stream to give the lower earners a chance.
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11-30-2015, 07:13 PM
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I'm always surprised by those in this industry that didn't already know this. Someone tried to tell me that the girls doing cams weren't making any money and I laughed.. I saw a 60 mins or show like that on the biz of webcam modeling awhile back. The girl described all she did in a day to continue to be a "top" model. The top 20 are not just top 20 cause they are hot. They got that money they make by working 12-16 hours a day between snapchat, twitter, blogs, and cams...
I look at the models at the bottom of MFC and I can see why they are at the bottom. Girls just think that all they need to do is get naked and play with themselves to make money . It's the same way as any biz. Look at the paysites that long-term make the big money. They don't just throw out paysites with OK models. They work hard to put out the best product possible. Cam models can still make a killing today but they have to work to be a top 20 model or be happy with their "beer" money. 
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11-30-2015, 07:20 PM
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Great thread!
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11-30-2015, 07:25 PM
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So how much is a token? .05 cents USD?
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Reading ambe cutie thread is really interesting. As an affiliate, I can tell you right now that I wish all the models knew how to make a good living. 
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Worst thing a model can ever do is give them what they want.
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11-30-2015, 11:04 PM
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So it's a 50/50 split? For some reason I thought MFC was an 80/20 split
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So the top .1% make over $15,000 / month. Go on StripperWeb, they work their asses off like a full time job. They analyze decor, psychology, camera tech, lighting, interaction techniques, they are hardcore. The top 50 model is on track to make $40k for the year. 99% of them are making a supplemental income only.
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How much are the top guys and couples making?
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However, in general a boy+girl show gets more viewers than a single girl show, still, gets less tips. Reason: obviously she's not the user's gf, singe a boy is having sex with her. The whole big tips schema is about she got no bf.
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I wasted 20 mins reading that thread. Some interesting posts and some really dumb ones. That chick over there named Teagan. Said something like, these chicks are making 250k+ a year BUT, they have to pay taxes and have expenses. Well no shit, everyone has those. I guess she's talking about those really expensive gold plated dildos? Truly moronic. |
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There was a program on UK TV a few months ago about girls that earn big on cams. Most of them put the work into marketing themselves, creating a personality and getting the guys hooked.
Before they hit the website. So do a search on the girls claiming to earn big money. |
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I know 80/20 does not work in this at all. The girls I have shown how to do this when I didn't need them as much now make so much I can't get them to do anything.
I spent time teaching one and she makes a killing. I don't want to say it is not nude at all but for the most part I would go with that. Can't give away so much but time and research and it is not hard to figure out if you use your brain and have a few girls to try things out.
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Never mind. I googled it. SexxiStar? Fuck me
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