VizerCato

These are the cams rotating in the tools right now, all useless except for ONE. And you can't even pick which cam is featured it's just randomly assigned, every time you refresh you get a different one from their picks.


A dildo going into a pussy. Looks hot sure but is this a recording? is this a video? What am I seeing? Can I interact with this? And it is competing against full on hardcore professionally shot porn videos from other sponsors that are not live cams. You see where I am going with this? This is trash for the promo tools.

Second cam

Same shit. What is this double cam bullshit? Looks pre-recorded. Nobody gonna click on that.

Third

A colombian orgy. Sure, let's do what porn producers do but ten times worse cause it's live and yet the person looking at the embed has no clue this is live.

Now for the chicks that nobody cares to see naked monopolizing the promo tools. They are featured in the fourth, sixth and seventh place:


Thin as a twig no boobs no ass, no interest.


More of the same. Who cares to see her naked? 1 in 10 men.

This one is the worse of both worlds, stick thin girl with the pussy in a close up. Not only is she uninteresting she isn't interacting.


AND FINALLY THE ONLY CAM WORTH ADVERTISING out of the whole bunch is this one. The chick has tattoos which isn't ideal, but she has boobs, ass, is not giving it all for free (there's intrigue) and is interacting with people, this is the only cam out of all this trash that would get you traffic and signups.

mopek1

Yes thanks. Have you found a way around that? A way on your own to send your traffic to rooms that convert well?

VizerCato

I personally don’t use the promo tools specifically for this reason. I use only text links to handpicked rooms. But I don’t use bought traffic so I’m not like many affiliates out there.

mopek1

What's if they are offline?

VizerCato

I have my own way of handling that, I won’t share my specific personal strategies

VizerCato

Looks like a moderator removed half the images on my post. Are we not allowed to discuss which body types are more profitable to advertise on an adult affiliate thread?

mopek1

I read that post not long after you posted it and I didn't see the missing images. So either they didn't get posted because of something gone wrong with gfy, or a mod removed them really fast. If a mod removed it, it would be good if they mentioned why, so we understand the image posting rules better.

sarettah

No, a mod here did not remove your images. all image placeholders are there.

it appears the image host you used deleted them.

fuzebox

The image links themselves are still in the html of the post. I actually can't figure out why those images are not loading, it feels like a DOM limit rendering multiple images from postimg.cc. When I refresh this thread with the console open, firefox shows me:

GET https://postimg.cc/1f4vsjpF NS_ERROR_FAILURE

Clearly we are resolving postimg.cc since half the images are indeed loading.

fuzebox

VizerCato is 100% correct in his analysis of the state of cam models. The sites themselves don't care, studios have overrun the model inventory with generic and uninteresting models.

Affiliates who just throw up iframes or popunders without taking an active role in promotion will see their earnings continue to drop.

Personally I make the most these days selling my cam traffic per click

mopek1

More than promoting a cam site? How much/click?

GoCastaway

Is there again a wave of DMCA complaints going on from CB models?

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Based on the trend and our linear approximation, the number of spenders is projected to reach zero around August 2028.
Summary:

Peak period: Mid-2021 with approximately 120 spenders.
Current trend: Decline to around 70 spenders by mid-2024.
Estimated zero spenders: August 2028.

VizerCato

Are you still promoting them or did you stop?

TurboB

Yes, still a little. As you see - I am getting new spenders.
But most traffic switched to Stripchat.

VizerCato

Is Stripchat better? Do they allow you to handpick the models to be featured in the tools?

VizerCato

Nah, this was too fast to be DMCA and they didn't remove the last chick. This was the webmaster of GFY or a mod removing negative comments about model's appearance. Chaturbate reps probably reached some sort of agreement with GFY management on this.

GoCastaway

It are not the last chicks of GFY...

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fuzebox

GoCastaway was referring to models sending false DMCA notices to affiliates.

There was no GFY interference with your post, no one cares if we think the models are dogs, and Chaturbate abandoned GFY 8 years ago.

zerovic

These dmca notices are getting ridiculous. The recent one was for "eve003300". No image is stored, no personal info, nothing I only have the username saved in my db, and bam, "Notice of DMCA removal from Google Search".

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VizerCato

There *was* interference since 3 images were deleted from my post and I didn’t delete them. It wasn’t DMCA because images were taken down less than 24 hours after I posted them. No time for even Google to index them, let alone models or DMCA services finding them, sending a takedown request to the admins or to the server, etc.

As of your claims that Chaturbate abandoned this forum 8 years ago… There was a very public situation with Chris, the CB rep on this very thread in 2019. So I don’t know what you are talking about

GoCastaway

One of mine was for "elannand". When i got the notice from Google i searched for it on CB and got response that the model could not be found.
Right now i searched again and the model is back, How strange...

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mopek1

Try posting them again and see what happens?

sarettah

You posted a very good analysis of the CB situation and then you kind of ruined it by coming off like an idiot.

As has been explained to you 3 times, no mod on gfy messed with your post. The issue is with the image host you used.




Here is a screen shot of your post a couple of minutes ago. Note the missing images.





Here is a shot of the page source for your post a couple of minutes ago:



As you can see in the page source, your images are still there. The image host (as has been explained to you) is stopping them from being shown. It has nothing to do with anything on GFY's part.

If I go to the image host and go to one of the urls, it shows up (https://postimg.cc/4mMBdQ5S) so the images are there, the image host is not allowing them to be shown on gfy.

I noticed that the 3 missing image urls are in a different format. The ones showing are from i.postimg.cc and have a subfolder and a name while the 3 not showing are from postimg.cc and do not have a subfolder and a name.

If I change the url from https://postimg.cc/4mMBdQ5S to https://i.postimg.cc/4mMBdQ5S/gfy3.jpg, the image then shows in a post.



So, it actually appears to me that you screwed up the image links and then blamed the gfy mods for your mistake.

Is that fucking simple enough for you?

JesseQuinn

stop being smart S. you too Fuze


I am not on token sites so no need for concern Mr Cate that I might mar one of your click throughs with thinness

I appreciate you talking about engagement. I agree with you whole-heartedly on that, but you have to be a certain weight to do it?

but aren't all the most popular performers on cb young thin women who rarely say a word? I could never do that, even in my 20's I had too much to say. no hate, much respect for what they do

probs with the 1st pic that did show up she had reached a goal and was giving a show. good for her. doubt she cared a whit about conversions for affs as long as she got her dollaz

if you want real engagement in terms of the majority of performers online maybe not your best choice?

kinda biased as I do GFE and do it well. I couldn't do that on a token site. would blow my brains out after 30 mins of banality if I knew a friend with a gun

plus cb is becoming a bit oversaturated

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fuzebox

If you're going to try and be a smart guy, you gotta recognize early when you've fucked up.

VizerCato

To me the only way this makes sense is I had high volume low tier traffic. Unfortunately my traffic is high quality (tier1) and not as massive, so my solution has been to rely on text links... It isn't ideal because when the rooms are offline I have 2 options. Either send them to the homepage or to the offline model's bio.

It was leagues better when the "top cams" selection wasn't broken and you could actually rely on a semi decent shot at promoting a decent looking and interactive girl. Not anymore.

And thank you for looking into what was wrong with the images in my other post, I jumped to conclusions without checking to see if the error was on my end. We are always learning. I hadn't seen your reply because GFY doesn't have notifications and I missed the last posts of the previous page (pagination without notifications can make me ignore replies, I signed up recently and I am getting used to the site's mechanics)

VizerCato

The problem is not that your "thinness" would "mar" my click throughs, is that you would drive none. No click-throughs for the stick thin chicks. I wish I could just slap any chick and drive sales but it doesn't work like that.

Some body types are more sexually appealing than others, this is a fact, women don't see it, and if you point it out they take it as a personal attack. This is what women think is attractive. "Goals".



And this is the type of body men like best, the one that drives the most engagement:



Yes. This is why I suspect the algorithm parameters are being set by a woman on CB's staff. Because they seem to be actively selecting against the type of body that is most appealing naturally to their userbase. It's all studios and models that would appeal to a woman's idea of hot. IE:







Now you might like this fact, or you might not like it, I understand some realities are coarse, but it is what it is.

You don't understand the point I was making. My beef is not with models pushing for conversions. I had good conversions working with models that were very aggressive at promoting their affiliate link because my traffic would sign up listening to their spiel but they had my cookie first. So the signups were credited to me. This was before Chaturbate eliminated affiliate links from model's bios, now it's a different story as they don't push viewers to sign up like they used to.

Models can have any attitude and body type they want and make it work. There is a spender for each model... some men prefer stick thin women or dominatrix type of shows or whatever. The point I am making is NOT EVERY MODEL converts at the same rate and the models Chaturbate are featuring SUCK BALLS for this particular purpose. If you are optimizing your promo tools to drive traffic and conversions you would want to feature the type of model that would actually make that happen. I can't convert traffic with a dildo in a vagina or Miss Twiggy over there. They are probably fantastic people and make great models for their own audience, they don't appeal to the general public like a natural woman with a "chubby" body and an amateur feel would.

JesseQuinn

she's hot as hell, even with blonde hair (I can overlook minor deficiencies). but as a customer I'd get bored quick if she didn't engage with her audience

blame the 90's for imprinting heroin chic on me or something, I am attracted to lanky, fit, skinny women and eating is a sin. but male or female they need to have something to say. that's my thing


which men? you understand one of the beautiful parts of camming is that there are women and men who fit the particular tastes of their entire user base. in my experience Germans, Brits, northern US'ers and eastern CA'ers love slender and saucy

southern US'ers and other regions with wealth love curves


thin, fat-skinny, zaftig (excellent scabble word if you can hit a triple word score) or obese. on the dude side, buff vs dad bod and no doubt a lot in between. something for everyone. the sites aren't gonna automatically cater to your aesthetic in their promo tools



it kinda seems like you want sites to conform to your idea of 'hot'. if you liked thinner ladies you'd blame women behind the scenes for pushing an algo about 'body acceptance/positivity' or something

if you push great traffic ask the sites you promote to have tags you can filter based on skinny/fit/curvy/BBW etc

as far as the public show stuff, that is the norm on token sites. if you don't like it, don't promote those sites


I understand you. so you're upset the performers who fit/don't fit your body type don't do the work for you?


so your problem to solve, gotcha

good luck man, zero sarcasm

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VizerCato

Of course you think she is hot.

Nobody cares what you find attractive because you aren't the customer who is spending on webmodels.

I am sure there is a customer for obese women eating boogers if you look hard enough.

You personal experience is irrelevant.

Nobody cares what I personally find attractive. I am not the customer who spends on webmodels.

Tags are useless because models set them themselves and put the most ridiculous tags on themselves. I have seen black chicks with "asian" tags, everyone has the "bigboobs" tag even men now, and you can't do shit with that.

No. My complaint is the selection of models in the promo tools SUCK A BAG OF DICKS and you can't convert traffic with it because they favor the wrong type of model and show.


This chick is the perfect example of female brain. Zero objectivity, impossible to get through. Go post on ambercutie forum for your body positivity backrub of the day, this is an affiliate marketing site for fucks sake.

JesseQuinn

well I've been camming since before fire was invented so might know a thing or two about the regional customer tastes


I'm an aff too, I'm capable of seeing both sides

I just don't push token sites as they don't work with my traffic. or maybe it's cuz I don't like token sites so dunno how to promo them effectively. whatever

if you're so upset, then try something new in terms of sites to promote or new strategies for promoting cb

dang you salty though. go watch some Josh Johnson to turn that frown upside down then get back to work

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VizerCato

Yasss girl slay

fuzebox

Another industry wide issue. Most these cam sites employ at the entry level or outsource stuff like tagging. You really can't rely on these promo tools if teen and milf both show 25-30yo girls or big boobs and bbw show the same profiles. I wonder if they even let models choose their own tags (lol)

VizerCato

On Chaturbate tags are picked by the models and they can change them on each stream because it’s what is displayed on their room topic. The same model can show under “Asian” “milf” “bbw” today and “black” “teen” “smalltits” tomorrow. It’s completely useless

JesseQuinn

performers should be able to set their own tags. I should join cb as a performer just so I can use 'Ebony' 'Asian' 'Twa' 'BBW' and 'Large Tatas' as tags. probs the performers (or their studios) just select what's trending to bring in more room traffic. not that this converts to spending

I did misspeak on that earlier, I meant like embedded in profile stats which apparently cb doesn't even do

as in, one can't be pale and 5'8" and 120 lbs and be a BBW Ebony Twa teen

I really don't understand why you're so upset though. if you're not getting the conversions you want then transition to a new sponsor that does offer you the tools you desire. if you have high volume quality traffic and the stats to back it up sometimes you can get extra tools that aren't mentioned publicly

cb sucks anyway, last I was told one can't even get paid via ACH to a US bank account unless you're actually IN the US. so for a Canadian aff living in JA with a US bank account my options would be Paxum or crypto? fuck that ish


seriously though, no one owes you a living. there are a ton of great, unsaturated sites out there that offer US/Euro payments to all who have proper documentation and you wouldn't need trouble yourself with the scourges of free sex shows that, uh, token sites are all about

one of my best performing sponsors is a Euro cam site to which I direct clients I can't understand. I'm not gonna use goog translate in shows

you just seem to be following the herd, all up in your stats with obvious irritation that it's not working for you


while you rant and rail about a site you're not forced to promote the rest of us, on cam and off, are making money. if it's broke for you, play with new toys

good luck Don Quixote

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mopek1

Not to be combative. Just my 2 cents on the matter.

I find that lots of good comes from people who complain AND have lots to talk about in terms of analysis. Complaining for its own sake is just a rant. But actually talking in detail about all of the micro factors about a certain program or industry helps me to see it more in depth, or from a different angle.

For example, maybe I have been thing about promoting another program aside from CB for awhile, but was hesitant for some reason, and this gives me that extra push. Maybe I thought I was the only one who saw a certain problem, but after 10 more people complained I knew it wasn't just my own issue (own traffic, way of promoting etc), that lots of others are having it too and so it's not on my end and I can focus on other factors.

Finally, sometimes it's fun to rant and get something off your chest. As long as it's not just emotional dumping, I find it useful.

JesseQuinn

that sounds like female brain thinking and better shared on ACF

for real though, with you on what you wrote 100%

one of the coolest things about this long-azz thread is people sharing. not just venting (which does have a place as long as it's not all 'it's someone else's fault') but actually sharing what works esp when it comes to tech stuff (tips cap to Sarretah)

and yeah, if one's profits are dropping def to important to know if other established affs have experienced the same so peeps can get a sense of 'is it just me or...'

I personally think cb is kinda played out aff-wise cuz (as Mr Cate noted above) first cookie wins. since almost everyone with a free adult site has cb pop-ups or links you lose if not within the time frame. and even if your cookie is still valid, they are notorious for advertising on pirate sites and those dudes won't pay

suspect many these days still banking on cb are cuz of previous sign-up rev share. two who made/make wicked cash are on to new projects

not saying drop the site, just test what works best. as we all should do, always

just without blaming others, which I have never seen you do


for emotional dumping I took my cat to the vet yesterday cuz worried she had fleas or a rash or something. nope, just mosquito bites. she has very short fur with no undercoat

my older gyal not affected as she is protected by a fierce double shield of fur. every rainy season there are mosquitos but they never bite me. they're a little excessive this year and I go to the river and my friends are slapping their limbs

I just sit there admiring water and trees and listening to the sounds of laughter and play


so I bought a tennis racquet-shaped mosquito zapper and went on a mission in the bathroom where they hang out cuz no one fucks with my babies

the zaps were so satisfying

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VizerCato

I am not upset. You are tone deaf and not very smart which is why you turn a practical discussion into an emotional tale. My reasons for writing on this thread are 100% practical.

Chaturbate is STILL the best sponsor out there, regardless of how wrong they are with their model selection. It just takes effort to skirt around their faulty tools. My earnings are pretty good, too. Zero complaints on that department. I make around 10k a month like I showed earlier on this thread.

The reason I don’t simply choose another sponsor is because I have a TRUST relationship with Chaturbate built over 10 years of work with them:

CHATURBATE NEVER SHAVES. CHATURBATE DOESNT MISS A PAYMENT. CHATURBATE ARE STRAIGHT SHOOTERS.

Maybe you don’t understand the value of the statements above. Most women and dumb people don’t value fidelity and trust based relationships. So let me explain this to you:

99% of sponsors shave and steal from you. The game with those sponsors is not just about securing your signups, you also have to be on your toes to catch them when they cheat you out of the earnings. Then plea to get them back. Sometimes they give you an excuse and pay you. Sometimes they close your account. Sometimes you don’t even see it coming and they close up shop taking everyone’s earninfs from one or two pay periods.

MFC affiliate program shaved you. Streamate shaves. Smartlinks and CPAs like CrakRevenue rob you blind and deny it. And many affiliates don’t even notice because they don’t pay attention. I always notice.

Knowing I can trust Chaturbate frees my mind to think about how to bring more traffic to the site so I can earn more money. It’s a great relationship. They pay well, I bring them high quality traffic. We are all happy.

Ideally someone would fix the algorithm so we can do our job. And if they don’t then I can ask other affiliates to see if I should dip my toe with a new sponsor but it is a high risk endeavor. I don’t like Stripchat, maybe they will shave me. Maybe they won’t. I don’t know until they try. But if they do shave me that’s traffic down the drain and earnings I miss out on. Stripchat doesn’t feel trustworthy to me from a superficial scan of their strategies.

My aim writing on this thread is to hear from other affiliates what they are using, if it works, why they stopped using Chaturbate and if I can learn something from them or share with them things that can be done better or work for me. I am not looking to fight with webmodels. Please don’t pollute the thread with pointless emotional discussions that bring nothing to the table.

JesseQuinn

well glad it's working for you, all your bitching aside

I was talking to Mopek, not you. he is cool, has been around the block and I like that he asks questions which demonstrates honourable humility and provides insight and gives back where and when he can. try to do all of the same myself online with somewhat limited success

you got boring real quick

people interested in the world online and off tend to be more interesting

and also make more money


dude, you just joined, angry you're not making what you want on cb but it's not your fault and attacking me for having a vagina and an exquisite clit you wish you had? that totally determines my thought processes (well, sometimes, but not here)

if you are not making the money you want, find a new strategy or suggestions then post them. if you're just bitching just to bitch and post screencaps of cammers, then fuck you

for the record I did not report you, didn't even see the pics you claim were deleted by mods supposedly in cahoots with cb

S and Fuze explained it to you but nooo, you were in a mood. you understand how crazy that sounded though, in retrospect, right?

you did raise some points earlier that me and others agreed with and then you went off the rails

if you have a solid history of traffic and high volume sales stats present them to cb and if they don't bite (I think I killed all the mosquitos btw) then shop around


and my Bika is fine

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VizerCato

I have set up my Stripcash account and I will start to promote this lightly to see how it goes and if the sponsor is legit.

A few thoughts off the bat:

1) The promotions look very marketable, I can think of 10 ways to sell the 50% off tokens thing and I anticipate great success with it, but it’s only twice a year it seems. The last promo was in May for the summer and looks like I will have to wait til Black Friday or December to try this. Will the earnings and conversions be high enough the rest of the year to justify switching sponsors? We will see…

2) Am I doing something wrong or does it happen to everyone… when I set up a text link to go to a handpicked room and the model is offline I get sent to a Chinese model room? Sometimes these rooms have a roulette and 5 fully dressed chicks loitering? What gives? Is there a way around this? I thought it was a geo targeted program?

sarettah

there is a stripchat thread right over here -- https://m.gfy.com/fucking-around-and...e-results.html

you are welcome.

LustCore

Devastating July byebye, hello promising August

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VizerCato

Not to kick a dead horse, but August is traditionally the worst month out of the whole year. If July was savage, August could shape up to be lethal.

LustCore

Of course, that is the typical summer holiday season, so understandably a slow month for us while the high season for tourism.

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Shoplifter

Anyone else finding their traffic counts just fell suddenly on the 1st? All of a sudden i'm at half of where I was on the 31st.

GoCastaway

Yesterday was normal here, and today until now also going normal.

Last period was even above normal with the revenue.

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I had a sharp drop on traffic on the 26th of July and onward. No change on conversion though.

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sarettah

you guys really look at stats on a day to day basis?

pornuploader

Hey guys

Have you received the Bitcoin payment for this period?

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