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https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/th...ur-room.33544/
I was reading this earlier. Basically people using bots to boost their room to the first page. The rooms are pretty crap apparently. You have many top spots that are taken by faceless girls, "sitters" and "waiters" or just seriously stupid "porn" rooms (no interaction between broadcaster and audience), who normally would have NO chance to get such exposure. Sometimes these rooms are even empty, broadcaster leaves the room for a break and these can be long, so like magic there is an empty room on the front page, sometimes in the top two rows. I heard chaturbate had this problem before and were good in stamping it out. Here are some of the rooms apparently doing it: thebaewatch pornlady german_honey natalie_shakgough rayssamoon shakemeplus Could just be part of the reasons for lower signups/earnings
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Chaturbate should hire some employees that regulary check the models/front page of the site and monitor if there are any red flags in the viewer IP'S/ Signature/ The model itself breaking rules etc.
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We could set up an online spreadsheet (google drive kind) with a list of items to be looked at and their status. Something like: id; item name; item description; priority; severity; status; comments/link to a blog or forum It would give us visibility on what is going on and where we're heading instead of individually sending an email to support. This would also re-inforce trust by giving a sense that we are collaborators and partners: "we're all in the same boat". |
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This is the sort of thing I see all the time. And this has been on the front page for a few hours now despite there being no show.
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Wow this is getting out of hand quick. March has been terrible for me and all these issues are not helping at all. Which other cam offers converts best other than Chaturbate? Stripcash? Bonga?
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I feel your pain dude. She is using the "clara_chan" technique (inciting to create a new username prepending "e_" to the username) though unlike cc she is not covering the LOGIN button. And she is advertising her cb powered site too. Ultimately only models will benefit from chaturbate affiliation. Originally I was using the API to build my own layout (which doesn't include the bs). I suggest you go down that road and block their clickable images using the custom css I shared here (even with your site you need a whitelabel to go with it for registration). That will only slow down the inevitable I am afraid. |
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I see another potential cause for lower revenue: I just noticed if you select "Credit Card" as a means for payment, it will then default to a monthly subscription : Quote:
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RevShare applies to all Supporter memberships and rebills, and all Fan Club memberships and rebills
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These bad girls are stealing our money!!!
@Mohawk Steve: tell us that you are taking action against this sort of behaviour???!!! |
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That is good to know about the rebills for the fan clubs!
And I would hate to lose money for that campeaches page. I wish there was a code to turn all of those links and banners into my link if its my whitelabel and everything that says cb.chaturbate for branding. ;-) I'm doing fine this month though. Bit lower then dec. Just hope the cb affil program continues with great support, and implements ideas from us. last month period tho was the worst 4 me. |
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Stealing already existing registered members from other affiliates by enticing them to signup with a new username. This is how it's done:
Prominent clickable image at the top near the SIGN UP button: ![]() instructions in profile: ![]() And of course this is the visual, I let you imagine what goes on in social media, 1-1 cam sessions, emails, whatsapp, etc ... |
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The rational behind it was that the first cookie wins so if an affiliate sends traffic to a page, his cookie won't be overridden. This is wrong for 2 reasons: 1- if the unregistered user is on your whitelabel (non-chaturbate domain) and clicks on the broadcaster's aff link (chaturbate domain), the first cookie planted on the chaturbate domain is the broadcaster's. It seems to me in this case the original referrer gets a raw visit hit, but no chance to convert. 2- as seen above, some broadcasters who appear on the top row on a regular basis are actively re-assigning existing members essentially moving them from you to them. I'm happy to be proven wrong |
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Asking members if they can create a new account under their link surely means a ban for cam girls?. Its plain stealing/fraud
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What i do mind is that they OBVIOUSLY ask members to sign up under a new account, clean cookies and stuff before it, so they get the rev-share. I also mind this picture that i quoted above, its PLAIN STEALING (like ianmoone332000 already said) And you know what bothers me the most? That we haven't had any updates from Steve yet, yet he is in this thread and seems to ignore this post above with the Efetishism Picture? |
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Im getting tired to read about all those non sense that happened in the CB affiliate side
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![]() ![]() So again webmaster up their game to the maximum.... There is things to be learned everyday. step by step: 1- Create a broadcaster male or female cb account 2- Filled up the profile 3- get designer to create the overlay @Yourwhitelabel exemple Campeaches above ^^ 4- Buy Cheap Bot traffic and send all that traffic to your Model page room " techniquely because you have Lots of visitor to your room you will be place on Front page of Chaturbate. " 5- start getting traffic from the top Spot on the homepage of chaturbate. Im hiring models right now but with this technic You dont even need Any models LOL. ![]() AGAIN As long as its allowed by CB, why not Jump in the wagon and get back your Lost. ![]() There is an old proverb that say : if you can't beat them join them ![]() |
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The banner on efetishism's page is not breaking any Terms. It's not covering any site function or being misleading.
clara_chan's banner is covering site function and I see that a warning has been sent to have it moved so it doesn't overlay anything. Broadcasters on Chaturbate are allowed to post their referral links and banners on their bio. They are not allowed to overlay any site function or mislead users with their banners/links. Please submit any instances you see of broadcasters overlaying site design or misleading users to [email protected] so it can be reviewed.
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We are referring to the part that says "become a claradise citizen"
https://chaturbate.com/clara_chan/
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The issue is the primitive ranking algo. They should work on a better one, which is more complicated to crack. The first step could be a better ip filtering, because when you bot with 1000s of proxies to get to the top, those must be low quality proxies, otherwise it wouldn't worth it. Unless they're part of a botnet. ![]() If someone really wanted, he could occupy all the top spots with this technique paralizing the site. |
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I know overlays are not allowed but for me personally, things like this and models basically hoping our whales delete their accounts and sign up under them are the biggest problem
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Exactly! Thats our biggest problem and we are all suffering. I can't wrap my head around this how Chaturbate still has not done anything about that even tho there is Steve in the thread.
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He said what they are doing is allowed
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Im just looking for 100% confirmation that Chaturbate is allowing that then we can all see what the next step is
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New Navigation!
I like it: nice design and all buttons (login, signup, and everything.. ) have disappeared! ![]() Oh, and try to click the top ad banner for a fun surprise (chaturbate ad banner is rendered unclickable.) ![]() Source: https://chaturbate.com/yesikasaenz/ |
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He said "Broadcasters on Chaturbate are allowed to post their referral links on their bio."
It doesn't mean they are allowed to actively seeking to reassign existing referred members to themselves (this would be extreme). Explicit banners are just evidence of what's going on behind the scene You don't devote time and energy to building a business only to have someone else steal sales as certainly as if they reached over and grabbed thirty bucks from your wallet! (and we all know whales are worth a lot more than $30) |
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I reckon they should give them FULL ACCESS to be able to alter Facebook's design as well, this way everytime someone clicks LIKE on a fb post, it goes to their affiliate link instead!
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I'm not promoting chaturbate, but it seems they don't give a fuck about webmasters' complaints. They like stealing from you and that's why Steve acts as if he doesn't understand your questions and he just gives replies without actually answering the serious questions.
The webmasters worked very hard to get where they are now and to get the income they had been getting, so give them what is rightfully theirs! Models are broadcasters, not affiliates! They should be only making money by broadcasting. Webmasters have no other way of making money, besides getting commissions for the traffic they send. Why should models have two sources of income (broadcasting and affiliation)? It is painful to see that such a site (with good reputation so far) encourages theft on such a big scale. |
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I've heard more than enough from Mr Mohawk. He knows exactly what our problems are but he evades answering questions properly. Reminds me of a politician really.
The fact these little bitches are getting away with some of the shit they are and chaturbate isn't doing fuck all, in fact it almost seems like their behaviour is being backed! It's an absolute disgrace. I'm done with them and looking elsewhere. Links, banners and so on from my websites are getting removed in the morning. |
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That is why I say we assemble online, we could gather our complaints give them a few weeks/months to address the concerns. If they refuse to fix those problems we quit being selling chaturbate. One or two crying on their own isn't going to do nothing compared to xhamster and pornhub advertising Cbate. But you get 100 affiliates banned together it starts to take a tow
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![]() Anyone else having trouble with Google lately??
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Is this the dawn of webmasters? Why do the main sites mock their webmasters like this? I really think you guys should blast xhamster and mindgeek with messages about this, even with a link to the most important posts here, posts that clearly show how traffic shaving is done. I would contact them myself too, if I were promoting them. Good luck, guys! |
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Last 2 days were absolute shit again. A couple of signups but 0.00$ as well.
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Same with me was ok last period they back to shit $0 yesterday
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I think they respectively use stripchat (in house) and streamate though.
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Is streamate really that good? I noticed many big tubes are promoting them, but I checked the site a few times and it seems most if not all rooms there you need to pay before even seeing the girl naked, I visited many room there and all I see were girls typing their keyboard or just sit there full dressed, it hardly even look like a adult cam site to me. anyone here have success with them?
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The reason you have to pay to see the girl naked is because they have different rules than chaturbate. If you want to see tits and pussy, money up front, that is how it goes with sites like streamate. |
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Yep. its LOW for me now too. Seems like either the new period starts really great or $0.00. Weird since usually end of period is great or makes considerable more the day before new period comes. Then drops off the cliff (if new period starts weak).
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