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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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#1951 |
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Today is a flash mob of empty rooms on the first places
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and again...
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And the same room broadcasted from other models:
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Very hard to make conversion / sale when top room are Empty no model online
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![]() Mila is using the same strategy as clara with the username pattern but at least she states: Quote:
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$0 today bloody magic
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what about the number of sign ups (conversion)? In my opinion it is a better indicator of performance. Unless you are using PPL ($1 per signup), in which case $ correlates to signups.
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CB will not do anything, because all cheater-rooms were online last days
As example spanishcouple_ is up and again on the first place, usually zero registrations when rooms like that on the first place ![]() |
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I can prophesy the first places for the next few hours
emilybrowm and spanishcouple_ will be a 2 first places for 3-4 hours |
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I can work as a prophet!
![]() the first two place. the first - an average model with hanging microtits the second - a fully dressed model These rooms will not convert at all ![]() |
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I went to those rooms, they suck. LOL.
First is zoomed in so close with all this text. The other cam you mentioned is saying email me with a tip note with a video on loop. |
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Chaturbate staff have lost control of the site
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Anyone doing good on new period? 0.00 and 1 sign-up for me (so far). Things could change tonight.... hopefully.
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Today will be a day without registrations because
mila_ and spanishcouple_ will get the first two places for a few hours P.S. Only at US evening I have a few registrations. EU day without any registration ![]() |
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my spenders are gone.
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Mila_ Clara_Chan Spanishcouple_ and other mentioned in this thread models are in the same criminal group.
Yes, its a criminal group, because they are stealing referrals, cheating with the fake viewers . Creating such amount of a fake viewers, especially a smart fake viewers is impossible for one model - its just too expensive only for one model P.S. I still think that its some kind of side work of someone from low level support or technician from cb. |
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Is anybody knows any other emails instead of
[email protected] [email protected] ? Because situation is out of control |
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Today one eastern european "sit around" girl got the top spot. It's completely out of control and every day these studios put new girls on cb.
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I now have better conversions with sites that don't have free shows A camgirl I know created a whitelabel and a profile on cb with links to her email and ManyVids. She is heavily advertising a profile where she rarely shows up. All models should do the same... I guess the step after that is for webmasters to get naked on cam? ![]() |
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Damn.. this is getting out of control.
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I usually get around 20-30 signups a day, today only 13 so far that is bad
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Today CB changed something in their algorithms, one friend of mine received an email with support answer about this.
But mila_ is still there ![]() Guys, do you know any other good affiliate programs, where I can put my "sugar daddies" related traffic? old fat spanish chicks don't convert with my type of the traffic at all. |
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Its just a statistics - when mila_ on the first place conversion drops highly. Yes she has a lot of followers, but many other models have much more followers and can't get the first places even once last few months. And she has really, really bad light! Such dark gray room can't convert well! |
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I know my words look like paranoia. But I'm sure, that Mila_ one of the main persons of group of cheaters and she works together with someone in CB support.
Because each new CB algorithms only for helping her group to stay on the first places. And all these models are average models, not the bad, but not the perfect also! |
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Fuck it! I'm out.
After their changes top cheating rooms get the first places much faster than before. I repeat my question: Quote:
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How about you give these things some time? Let's take this signal that chaturbate is actually aware and changed something (whatever they changed) as a positive one. Just like it seems that this bot problem didn't come over night, I don't think it will be solved over night. Also girls that used bots have made followers and won real users. Just the way it is.
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Cheers Mega. At least its an acknowledgement from them
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What improvements they are talking about ?
I rarely visit CB - here is first random click on model there: ![]() Is this allowed to overlay other navigation buttons ? |
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"Improvements" of model placements on the first page. But these "improvements" are good only for models who use fake viewers, common models suffer from it much more then before.
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It's good that y'all are discussing and reporting these issues but sentiments like "chaturbate has lost control of the site" and "Fuck it! I'm out" are a little overly dramatic
Chaturbate's not going anywhere, they're gonna fix the problem. It might take a minute because they can't just make large algorithm changes in a single day. They can't take drastic action against botting in a single day. If they did those things without taking proper care and precaution that they DO IT RIGHT, they could hurt their (and your) business. But the sky's not falling. Personally my revenues were down a little in feb/march but they're back on track this month. And my signups are actually up in general this year. Just focus on building your traffic and signups and you'll be fine. If anyone from chaturbate is reading this, I would suggest that the sorting algo focus on REVENUE GENERATED over different time-frames. Revenue generated in the current show, revenue generated in the last hour, revenue generated per broadcasted hour over the model's last month on chaturbate, revenue generated per broadcasted hour over the model's last year on chaturbate. Of course you would still need to use other signals to give new models a chance to prove themselves, but the most sophisticated botting operation in the world can't game a revenue-based sorting algorithm. |
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What happened, anyone else notice a big dropoff the last 2 days. Monday, did over $1000 in billing and then back to back zeros and I haven't had a zero day in over 3 years. I'm usually at least $400 in billing daily
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This would require monitoring but this will bring quality (boosting overall conversions) and discourage bots use to a small extend. Also I am sure a gentle warning to bots users would go a long way. In my opinion PPL should be put on hold until this prb is under control. I assume that not only they boost rooms positions but they also score $1 when signing up? ... |
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Who will decide what room must be on the first place and when it must be? Only crowd can decide the best position, not just single human. Right now cb support already does it. And as result top botted room on the first places. Yes, you can say that is just only my conspiracy theories. But cb support can limit any model manually. Many many models who broadcast more than 2 years with lot of followers received these manual limits last few months. At the same time the top botted rooms are on the top spots, so white list exists too. |
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For example, ignore revenue generated from private shows and other revenue sources. Only count revenue generated from tips in public shows Focus on number of tippers in addition to total tip volume (that way one whale can't affect the ratings) As far as a popular girl sitting around doing nothing, focus on revenue in the current show. I love thinking about search algorithms, in my previous life before getting into adult, I actually worked in search algorithms at big tech companies. If you've used ebay search or yelp search, you've used code/algorithms I've written |
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All fucking spenders are gone, as soon as we restart to send the full traffic.
Codes down sales, codes up no sales. They are playing that kindergarten game now nearly 12 month in these patterns, with our revshare account. It looks like the shave algo of the programm is programmed the keep the traffic flow alive. |
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- all cheating models are average common models - usually full dressed and unpretty. - all these models are sticked to the first positions - most of these models use overflow banners or text requests to recreate a new account (referral stealing) - all these models are covered someone in the cb support - all reports about breaking TOS are completely ignored - any model who looks better and can be competitor for these average models just pushed out from the main page applying some type of the limits. and these limits applied by cb support manually. - the latest changes of the placement algorithm help only cheating rooms - they get the first places faster than before changes. but other models are received harder limits. - right now the first page of cb looks like mix of freak show and understandable reality show with lot of low quality rooms and lot of fully dressed models. That's why conversion drops. |
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And the main problem:
CB support doing nothing with reports about these models! Banners are still there, still horde of fake viewers, etc. |
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Found another one...., so, we have only 1 button link to users signup, then all models are starting to put this BS (their own button) close to our ONLY button link
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One more: caylin/.... Any link close to SIGNUP button should be not allowed
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