Holy Damage

Lol.. I think CB support changed the banner to the other side

Cobra69erss

lol yep they did

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Brian mike

Day #9

phman79

I believe i lost the biggest spender i ever had to this shit, last year they dropped over 40,000 ...no shit....this year, gone

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Brian mike

Anyone got paid last period ?

no one have post the question as of yet LOL.

drexl

most likely cb support asked her politely to kindly pretty please move the banner away from the signup button and she moved it right left over other buttons which is not allowed either because it interferes with core functionalities : nav menu.

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ianmoone332000

Chaturbate need to send out a massive signal with warnings, email warnings and banning anyone on the site they see offering room overlays etc. Im on my 3rd zero spent/ zero signups days again. Has ayone done well with bongacams?

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Holy Damage

I have seen a performer asking to their big spenders to make a new account using their refer code...... i mean, while performing

Holy Damage

I dont even get free signups anymore lol

Holy Damage

... I bet all those camgirls that stole our spenders were paid

Brian mike

Shoplifter

I recently lost my last big spender. This guy was spending enough to keep it all going for me and now I am back to bits and pieces and beer money.

As long as the performers are also affiliates it will be very difficult to hold onto your spenders. Performers have the upper hand in being able to manipulate surfers into signing up again. If a performer sets their mind and efforts to stealing a whale it's 100% that they can be successful in doing so.

What will Chaturbate do to protect us?

Holy Damage

Chaturbate still makes money with this... sooo... guess what

Am I right? @Mohawk Steve

AllAboutCams

Same with me i had one guy spending stupid money then disappear and a smaller one do the same.

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cybermike

Eventually whales do have to stop spending at some point right? Sad day when it happens

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seriouslee

Correct, also most girls have a twitter, sell snap or have some other means of outside site communication.

I would still say one guy at support flipping through the top rooms with open eyes just doing a sanity check will make a difference. Give that guy a fancy title: "Chief of quality management".

seriouslee

I have a feeling chaturbate tweaked something again and it seems to be another step in the right direction. The number of "I sit around and play with my phone all day" girls from the studios that clearly used viewer bots on the front page is clearly smaller today than before. I wished cb communicated a bit more, even though I understand and respect keeping certain things confidential.

I'm not sure, in their hourly contest it now states "Unique registered viewers". Is the "Unique" new? Today Bubblekush lead in the contest while another broadcaster had a LOT more total viewers, which maybe were not unique though.

But all in all, go chaturbate, take your site back.

AllAboutCams

Something to watch out for

https://www.reddit.com/r/Chaturbates...are_dangerous/

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cezar78

April is very good for me, i have one big whale who spends money everyday

emmasexytime

We have whales that have been spending for years.

Some whales take a year or more before they start.

Others stop.

But if models are asking for whales to re-join that should be prevented somehow.

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ianmoone332000

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Longest streak since i started earning money with chaturbate. Gutted....

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Brian mike

Have you been paid last period ?

I wonder how this can be good for you if Payout is not sent for the last period

Good stats is worthless if you don't get paid

drexl

I got paid. Did you ask support? What payment method are you on?

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drexl

There is no "if" about it.

By the way, a cam girl on another site (not chaturbate) posted a screenshot of her dashboard on social media to show off her big tips (with a P you pervs! ). The picture clearly shows that the information she has includes the username of the tipper, and the domain of the website the customer is on!

Now, why would this information be of any use to a model? I mean there are guys in management who had a brainstorming about this feature and decided to engage engineering resources to make a dashboard that shows the domain name. Why??

->The camgirl has a whitelabel of her own, how long before the generous tipper moves over?

Years ago the workflow was simple, everyone had a distinct role and webmasters needed but now with social media and anyone being an affiliate, the paradigm has changed.

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Brian mike

Humm interesting

I guess im going to hit support for some with this. WEIRD this have Never happened since i promote them.

We use paxum.....

Brian mike

Update:
Reply from support seems like my payment return to CB as undeliverable to my paxum account. Got a notice this morning in my cb account when accessing my stats

Now i will contact Paxum asking them whats up

Denny

Happened to me once with other sponsor. They tried to send that payment again and it went through then.

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Brian mike

Well that great then, seems like there is nothing to worry about it can happen at least CB have the funds thats all what mather lol

cbarnaby

My advice is to stay away from those shavers. They promote their new website (spygasm) on the home page. and guess what? YOU ARE NOT GETTING PAID FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT IS DIRECTED THERE. You send your traffic to bonga, they send it to spygasm. They make money, you make efforts. Shitty cam site, in my book.

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ianmoone332000

Hi Punker. In regards to example 3, what if a user clears cookies and then creates another account under the models affiliate link.. Do we lose them then?

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sarettah

You are so sexy when you post in big yellow characters :P

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iceboi

What about the situation when the user is on your whitelabel and the broadcaster tells the user to join on her whitelabel. Who gets credited for the sales?

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wankawonk

this is what I'm wondering. the cookies wouldn't transfer cross-domain unless you did some work to make sure they did

though, if your whitelabel is loading the chatroom directly from chaturbate, you're probably fine? the user already loaded an iframe from chaturbate so they should be cookied properly

Beaver1

How much did you get paid for exoticads and social media clicks on cb?

Beaver1

- free signups are lower
- conversion rate a bit higher
- spenders are more stable

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megafapper

Many viewers watch sites like cb in the private window/anonymous browsing. They don't want any history of these site on the own pc/mobiles

And one more question. If banners, that overflows basic site functions, break TOS, why many models untouchables?

And can we get a clear answer about fake viewers? Is it break TOS or no?

megafapper

Thank you!

Will try my traffic with bonga.

TurboB

I did not agree. We have tried this sponsor with several different traffic sources ( mostly SEO ) for 2.5 years till now. It simply does not works at all.
https://gfy.com/webmaster-q-and-fuck...-2017-a-2.html
( bottom of page ).
After posting this, last 2 years we are sending very low traffic to that sponsor, and with these stats shown on image we are still not reached minimum payout ( $200 ).
Maybe it can work with some very targeted traffic ( russian or similar ).

drexl

I think the main problem we have here is we get the "first cookie win" argument without any answers to our actual questions then we don't hear about you guys for another 6 months after which you give us again the "first cookie rule" and so on.

Absolutely noone is disputing this first cookie rule. It is always nice to hear how the workflow works and can be useful to new webmasters but this is not that answer we are looking for here.

Cookies are domain based so the 1st cookie rule is true if you refer through a chaturbate.com affiliate link but is it also true if a surfer (unregistered user) is on your whitelabel (different domain), then clicks on a broadcaster's chaturbate.com aff. link?
I think in this case the original affiliate gets screwed because the chaturbate.com cookie has not been written by the original affiliate.

Related question: what about subdomains: whitelabel.chaturbate.com, en.chaturbate.com, m.chaturbate.com, ... etc are they all planting a cookie on the top domain also?

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Your Example 3 requires attention:

There are 3 types of registered users: registered without email, registered with email, registered and paying.
The only thing that can tie a signup to a webmaster is the username, so how do you assess that a change of username would keep the tie with the original affiliate at the database level (which is what counts)?
Some sponsors tie an account to the credit card (encrypted) so in this case true lifetime is possible. But chaturbate's model is different (free signups).

You must have read in this thread that there are broadcasters who proactively ask customers to create a new username under their link "to support them". This behaviour would be exacerbated offline I imagine: (email, private message, c2c conversation, ..)

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Some broadcasters have stopped going live they just have a profile with external links (leaks) which in turn are bad for everyone even them in the long term.
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The website design is altered by the custom icons which not only is a cosmetic issue, but also interferes with core functionalities using overlays.

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Co brand is partially achieved since Chaturbate brand name is still on whitelabels (significantly more n the mobile version) as well as links to chaturbate, ie: more leaks. (I gave details in an earlier thread)

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ianmoone332000

Yeah Drexl. What im wondering too is about example 3. Is our affiliate tied to chaturbate for life via cookie, ip address, email, credit card or something else?. I dont understand how it works when they create a new account at the request of the model yet still remain ours?

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seriouslee

Models would not be asking their members to create a new account through their own affiliate link if this would not have the desired effect, meaning the models get the additional 20% revshare. The models can easily check this in their affiliate stats, while webmasters cannot check how and why their customer is suddenly "gone". It's plausible to assume that there is a way that the "first cookie rule" can be overcome. Otherwise models would not be asking for it.

ianmoone332000

Maybe the user did not come from an affiliate and just found the site via google etc?. If thats the case then the model is stealing the 20% from chaturbate itself

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Brian mike

OUCH !!! That's so true , We don't make a penny out of those click or sale.

I had a chat with the rep of CAM4 a little while ago, I ask them the question about their banner traffic and she replied:
" Affiliate traffic dosent see the advertisement ".... YEAH RIGHT ...
I beleive her so much..... i just stop sending traffic to cam4, It was Very short experienced LOL
she would have more success with a reply like " I don't Know " LMAO.

I agree Bongacam is a leak problem with their new site Spygasm.
( Im really not a fan of Bongacam since Alexandra Rep reply to me on GFY to send my traffic elsewhere few years ago LOL )
BUT at least i give them credit on this honest reply about spygasm: YOU DON'T GET PAY FOR THOSE sale.

drexl

That makes sense.

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drexl

Yes I forgot that. Affiliates send traffic to cb who can then sell their ad spots: free traffic. Happy days!

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drexl

I am unsure why they allow these links on the profile. One explanation is that it helps take users away from whitelabels to the main site with all the benefits for them we already discussed. Either it is deliberate and it goes against us or they don't know what they are doing (and it also goes against us)

Other sponsors don't allow this and in fact are quite strict about it. For good reasons.

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AllAboutCams

I don't have a problem with them asking to sign up that benefits every one. But there should be no way in hell asking for them to sign up again that is just stupid.

After a few years or a new device the cookie will be lost and we loose them.

No point sending emails as they just seem mad with me when they bother to reply.

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drexl

The customer is tied to the affiliate by username. The cookie and the device are irrelevant.

I think the cookie lifetime is 30 days. During that time unregistered customers will be yours if they sign up and for the lifetime of their username. Given that they remain on the same domain of course..

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