I do not understand why people do what you have done.

If you contacted Steve via email / skype you would have found he is extremely helpful.

To everyone else out there - contact Steve and talk to him calmly and rationally.

See what the problem is.....don't just point your fingers and scream at the top of your lungs.

Payout dropped about 50% this pay period. Same volume and source of traffic. This is pretty upsetting.

The question why did we make three times more sales after pulling the links,
was asked several times before to the support, during the last tow years.

Generally you're going to make sales after you send traffic if the traffic isn't steady. As visitors browse the site, decide to sign up, and then often make a purchase later. Until you have a steady core of consistent revshare spenders, sales will usually fluctuate wildly like that. What about the hundreds of times you got sales while traffic was flowing in that you didn't mention?

To suggest that CB needs to commit fraud by skimming revshare sales from affiliates in order to subsidize their advertising budget is just an ignorant baseless accusation with which you have zero proof. I'm glad you lost your CB account and are now gone from gfy, we don't need this idiocy in this thread.

Sales where always lower until we send traffic and
always higher i if we stopt sending traffic.(not just a fluctuation)

And the sale that i mention and all the other sales that day,
came in straight in until we stopt sending traffic, after a couple of zerro days?
How naive must one be to believe in such coincidences.

And as I mentioned earlier, that was not just a one-day phenomän
it was a standard pattern.

Google update hit well...

Have to wait till it's getting stable, then move on to fixing and optimizing.

I wonder why i can't get signups from big porn sites (porn upload method). I get clicks, but no signups. Chaturbate's cookies don't overwrite and i think big porn sites are stuffing cookies. Even if people visit my domain, they already have cb cookie from cookie stuffing so i don't get signups. What do you think about this theory?

What sites are you using? PornHub for example has pop ups for many cam sites and this might be the reason or one of them.

:winkwink:

If they already advertise or other advertiser purchase advertising at the same place ..... Why beating your self by doing same as everyone ? :1orglaugh

I very much appreciate the kind word! It was a pleasure working with affiliates like yourself.

Unfortunately my last day at CB was yesterday. Best of luck to you all :thumbsup

Well that sucks :(

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what gives?

Yeah that sucks!

This sudden departure raises some concern for me (hopefully for no good reason), I hope someone from the program can step in and provide more information or assurance. We're heavily invested in this program.

That's generally how it works. Using the term "always" is just nonsense as I'm sure if I analyzed your stats I could find several instances of sales coming in right as traffic was. Its just that you don't remember those and when you have the zero days you freak out, stop the traffic buys and if sales come in then you take the conspiracy train of thought and assume its CB messing with your account.

Sounds like you never really developed a core group of consistent daily revshare spenders, so you're always going to have wide earnings fluctuations. I told you earlier in this thread, I think you're making a big mistake sending to the main site vs a white label or custom page and I don't care what limited sample of free signups showed you. After 20 years and 8 figures in cams, I know what works best for sustaining for long term cam profits and what I've learned not to do.

So how about when you have a forum where the traffic never fluctuates more than a few percentage points but your revenue suddenly drops by over 50% in a single pay period?

Strange that some runs with the bann hammer around, just to leave the office two days later.
Is it possible that you unban my account before you leave:1orglaugh

Because media buying from a "know traffic source" is cheaper than the 20%
The money that was saved, makes it possible to buy more traffic, witch will increase the total amount of traffic.

Oh thanks didnt realize that you already did this.

Best regards

i just hate it when a single user spend a few hundred bucks in 2-3 days and do a chargeback.. it just happened a few minutes ago..

:321GFY

Oh wow, sad to see you go! Hope you're gone for good reasons & will continue being on gfy.

Anyone replacing you as the official liaison between us & Chaturbate ?

Woahhhhh
Is this the longest thread in history of GFY?
Mohawk say what?
you are leaving, stay in touch and more importantly stay #blessed <3

If you analysed the stats properly, I would bet that isnt the case.

Again, analyse your stats - how many spenders do you have? Who are the core group of spenders? Perhaps you have 1 big spender and they stopped spending that month?

They provide you with all the information, go through it - know your spenders.

All the best mate, I'll still hit you up for a chat!

Who will be taking over your role?

Yeah, that's it. I had one guy who suddenly stopped spending 5k/wk. Brilliant.

All I am saying is, have a look at the transactions - see what has changed.

all the best to you Steve :thumbsup

For the most part the stats tell me what I already know, that I am down to a few spenders from having and collecting many over 8 years.

The question for me is what can I do about retention.

Pretty much out of your control.. goal is always to try to get more users to outpace old ones who eventually stop spending.

Out of control. It’s the market evolving but first of all the spenders evolving. We cannot expect someone spending for 5 years to spend 5 more years. It’s a miracle already to have someone with a steady income & absolutely no personal life changing events. Bless this guys.

That said, the population is growing, kids turning 18 everyday. Those people are our future.

young adults don't spend with porn.... they were raised in a world with free tubes, "TINDER" .... why spend with porn, cams and so on?

ohhh nahhhh :/

You helped me a lot of in past. I wish you all the best and stay healthy.

You are a great guy

My opinion differ. They're more easy on spending online versus our elders.

Why the hell did they cover the signup button with outgoing links?

https://en.chaturbate.com/_goalexgo_/

So I plan on trying my luck with promoting cams soon, is Chaturbate still decent to promote (revshare) or is there another company I should be looking at?

How are the free signups for everyone today?

Sucking balls.

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yes it's exceptionally low today, we'll see how it ends later

May, Sep and Oct being a nightmare to me

well, after reading this thread and seeing tayax's post I decided to develop some software to analyze the stats data provided; I'm not done yet, however from the info I've gotten so far, basically everything I had assumed was entirely wrong.

what really surprised me is that in the past ~2.5 years (all the stats data that I could download), customers who joined prior to that point 2.5 years ago, have generated nearly 50% more income than those who've joined since. Meaning that even over that 2.5 year span, my earnings were more about what I did prior to that, than they are about my current traffic.

Also, check out the vast difference between the median and the mean earnings per capita (these are different methods of calculating an "average"):
Median: $28.6
Mean: $305.03

now, at 98%, having removed the top 2% of spenders:
Median: $26.3
Mean: $172.39

and again at 95%:
Median: $25
Mean: $120.93

^^this demonstrates the difference whales can have on your overall income
When the average can change from $305 to $120 merely by removing the upper 5% of spenders, that is telling me that 1/20 of the customers are determining nearly 2/3 of my income from this sponsor.

I also averaged some Running Totals of earnings per customer, m+0 indicating earnings in the first month, m+1 earnings of the second month, etc., until it reaches "max" which is simply all earnings generated after m+6. We see the running total after 7 months is only $87.30, and that number is nearly doubled in the period after that. Keep in mind these customers may continue to buy in the future.

m+0: 29.72
m+1: 42.01
m+2: 51.54
m+3: 59.81
m+4: 69.43
m+5: 79.16
m+6: 87.3
max: 160.34

So, in conclusion, whales seem to have a much much much bigger effect on income than I expected; they don't merely provide a "bonus" as I assumed, rather they appear to be responsible for the majority of earnings. Meaning, one cannot expect any kind of income stability until there is a sufficient quantity of whales to even out the earnings - which in turn means that the level of income this threshold of stability corresponds with is likely quite high, unless you get lulled into a false sense of security by having one or two steady whales.

Also, earnings are spread out much more than I anticipated; that last data above shows only $29.72 earned in the first month after an initial purchase, of a total of $160.34 (and climbing).

Maybe that will help clear up some of the concern around income fluctuations.

Interesting stats. How many spenders do you base your stats one?

I can't give everything away :winkwink:
The user base should be sufficient to give meaningful data, I'll leave it at that.

Thank you for sharing, very interesting! :thumbsup

my free signups are rock bottom for a while now on both cb and my whitelabel using same traffic.

Yes I think the same. Some unscrupulous advertising networks do this too: I came across an ad network that was stuffing its own cb cookie. I noticed that and asked their support why so many "ads" showed up in the ad slots I had set up with them and they replied that when there was no inventory, they were showing default ads (which "coincidently" were cb cookie stuffing...). Oh and the ad slots were 300x250.

Imagine the reach they get not to mention that they potentially override your own cookies on your own site.

Nothing good happening relative to last year or recent periods. I'm quite surprised the October is down.

Did anyone notice any changes after Oct 3 when Steve announced his last day?

Everything is down at the moment, hits, sign ups, revenue...

I've noticed a huge nosedive in the past week and a half!! Spending and new users are way down, traffic is up. All the support ticket replies that I'm receiving are from someone who obviously is not versed in affiliate marketing in the least!!

Oddly enough, yes, Revenue has been down since Oct. 3 and only once reached xxx$ per day since Oct 3rd.

Signups dropped about 50% as well, while revenue is being generated but it also dropped to about -80% of what i usually generated per day.

chaturbate shaves, i'm making more money with dating in a week than i ever made with cb in a month. Yes...dating.

I have a few dives on specific days this month (2 to be exact) - but yeah, was expecting more frankly. Still waiting to know who's going to replace steeve.