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drexl 03-18-2020 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Andreweb (Post 22628431)
Nope, I haven't received mine on Paxum! But they have 7 days to deliver it!

Same here, not yet received but there's time.:thumbsup

Brian mike 03-18-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22628552)
cams.com is streamray

streamate.com is a different sponsor I think and their models aren't the same. Their sites require users to enter credit card information to join, which can explain your low conversion rate.

find some info about it ( I should have search google first lol ) i find a post from a model on ambercutie
Cams.com emailed me back and said: "When you come to work for us, you will be working for cams.com. Cams.com also leases itself out to provide live model chat services to Adult Friend Finder and Alt.com websites as well."

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22628552)
Their sites require users to enter credit card information to join, which can explain your low conversion rate.

:thumbsup got it..... Is cams.com work the same way for sign up ?
Sorry guys for all those newb question :winkwink:

drexl 03-18-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22628557)
:thumbsup got it..... Is cams.com work the same way for sign up ?
Sorry guys for all those newb question :winkwink:

No credit card needed to signup with cams afaik

CourtneyR 03-18-2020 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22628557)
find some info about it ( I should have search google first lol ) i find a post from a model on ambercutie
Cams.com emailed me back and said: "When you come to work for us, you will be working for cams.com. Cams.com also leases itself out to provide live model chat services to Adult Friend Finder and Alt.com websites as well."


:thumbsup got it..... Is cams.com work the same way for sign up ?
Sorry guys for all those newb question :winkwink:

Cams.com does not require CC for sign up. Let me know if you have any Cams.com or AFF questions :)

xxx6live 03-18-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22628520)
Cams.com ? Is that the company that use streamate WL?
I have absolutely no luck with Streamate since the last 4+ years income for me = 0

You were thinking about cambuilder, they are the streamate whitelabels.

Brian mike 03-18-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22628563)
No credit card needed to signup with cams afaik

:thumbsup

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 22628624)
Cams.com does not require CC for sign up. Let me know if you have any Cams.com or AFF questions :)

Will do if i need help thx Courtney :) ! Your my account manager on my AFF account :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by xxx6live (Post 22628692)
You were thinking about cambuilder, they are the streamate whitelabels.

Got it :thumbsup

Shoplifter 03-18-2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 22628624)
Cams.com does not require CC for sign up. Let me know if you have any Cams.com or AFF questions :)

Is there an API?

The ability to integrate into my network would be the only issue.

PornGrowsOnTrees 03-18-2020 11:24 AM

Everything is down for me this week. And other sites. I do see more traffic and free leads.

Brian mike 03-18-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by zhenyoung (Post 22628418)
Have you received the payment?

Just got Paxum payment form CB few minutes ago :2 cents:

sarettah 03-18-2020 01:02 PM

Just got hit with a major chargeback :( Spender since 2015, has spent across all 5 years. Just charged back the past few months to the tune of near to $5k. I lost almost $1000 in commissions.

Sucks big time.

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cybermike 03-18-2020 01:07 PM

Sorry man.. guessing he got desperate.. desperate times

GoCastaway 03-18-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22628786)
Just got hit with a major chargeback :( Spender since 2015, has spent across all 5 years. Just charged back the past few months to the tune of near to $5k. I lost almost $1000 in commissions.

Sucks big time.

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Almost 2 weeks ago a good spender of me (around 2.5 - 3K a month) did a chargeback and after this i didnt see him anymore, i am so pissed off...

sarettah 03-18-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22628848)
Almost 2 weeks ago a good spender of me (around 2.5 - 3K a month) did a chargeback and after this i didnt see him anymore, i am so pissed off...

Once they chargeback their account is canceled I think. They can do a refund for a mistake type thing but if they call in and say they didn't make thhose charges, etc, they are canceled and I think technically not allowed to sign up again. Don't quote me on that, it is just my understanding.

So, yeah, if you have a whale and then that whale charges back you have no0w lost your whale.

Sucks, but at least I understand why that would be.

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CourtneyR 03-18-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 22628720)
Is there an API?

The ability to integrate into my network would be the only issue.

we do have API to populate your site with cams.com models, and a coreg API for dating.

Goethe 03-18-2020 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 22628894)
we do have API to populate your site with cams.com models, and a coreg API for dating.

Can this be added to roboscripts?

Speigelau 03-18-2020 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22628786)
Just got hit with a major chargeback :( Spender since 2015, has spent across all 5 years. Just charged back the past few months to the tune of near to $5k. I lost almost $1000 in commissions.

Sucks big time.

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Wow, that's brutal, sorry to hear that. Makes you wonder what he said to get that many chargebacks approved and if the current Corona situation caused him financial hardship and this was his way of trying to recover some money.

Speigelau 03-18-2020 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22628871)
Once they chargeback their account is canceled I think. They can do a refund for a mistake type thing but if they call in and say they didn't make thhose charges, etc, they are canceled and I think technically not allowed to sign up again. Don't quote me on that, it is just my understanding.

So, yeah, if you have a whale and then that whale charges back you have no0w lost your whale.

Sucks, but at least I understand why that would be.

.

This was my thinking also, but something recently made me think otherwise. Last summer I had a whale who had spent over 70k. He routinely spent $500-1000 weekly and always made the max $320 purchase. All of a sudden last June there was a chargeback for him for one $320 purchase. Then nothing after that and I figured his account was canceled.

Recently I noticed his account # had a recent spend using the enhanced stats provided by Tayax. Upon further inspection I noticed that account had been billed the $20/month CB upgrade membership fee monthly for the last 8 months. So it seems the member was most likely cut off from making additional spends, but somehow his account and credit card are still active to continue to be billed monthly by CB. I'm assuming the member probably doesn't even realize the charges are happening.

It makes me wonder on a whale like that what made him chargeback that spend after making hundreds of them. Probably one model that pissed him off in a private or maybe he mistakenly tipped the wrong amount and contacted CB, who knows.

Chargebacks are painful, but what makes it even more painful is that the member no longer spends with you after that. In my experience whales are addicted to cams and if they can't spend with you, they are going to easily find another site to spend on, they don't just stop.

sarettah 03-18-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22628956)
Chargebacks are painful, but what makes it even more painful is that the member no longer spends with you after that. In my experience whales are addicted to cams and if they can't spend with you, they are going to easily find another site to spend on, they don't just stop.

Yep.

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heiko0o 03-18-2020 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22628446)
Iv done well with Chaturbate but with all the traffic leaks & models stealing years of peoples hard work, it would be silly to not start sending some traffic elsewhere. Truth is if they really cared about affiliates then the second this "clear cookies & create a new account just for me" bullshit happened they would have stopped it. Is it 2 years now we have been reporting it?. Actually stop and really think about how serious a problem that is. How much money and time has been spent by the whole adult industry sending people to chaturbate and its left to us to report models doing it to them? My earnings the past 2 months have went to shit and it could be the corona virus effecting things. Any time i feel like im hitting a nice regular income with them, something happens and things go to shit and this has been happening long before any virus. I know some of yous will still be raking it in with chaturbate but for me personally, im at the conclusion they will prioritise models over affiliates every time. Even when that involves them stealing our earnings

Unfortunately i have to agree with you here, even tho i don't like to. It also seems like, that the more traffic i try to generate and send to my WL's the lesser revenue i get. 2019 was bad, mid 2019 i started to send a lot of traffic to CB again and actually thought that it would get better in 2020. But it seems like, the longer i am staying, the less the revenue becomes. March was actually now the worst month i ever had since promoting CB for 4 years now. And i've been promoting it very heavily in the last 3-5 months. :( - And like you said, its not about getting less money. But it's about time investment and what you actually get out of it. At this point, if it continues like that, i don't see any reason to continue promoting it as well, as there is stuff out there, that will make me more money with less time invested.

I wish we could block out signatures or they would implement something so that new registrations are still associated to the referred affiliate. I don't understand why they don't care for their webmaster affiliates. When i check the front page the webcams all have signatures with "Create new account" text's in them. I mean sure, CB doesn't lose as they will still get their money but they really should think about taking more care for their webmasters as i don't think a lot of people will tolerate it more longer when their revenue is going down the shitter. Mine decreased -80% if i compare it to 2 years ago.

oce520 03-18-2020 10:27 PM

look like the world might be going into another financial crisis with whats going on with the US stock market recently, how much do you think it would affect our us?

GoCastaway 03-19-2020 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by heiko0o (Post 22629038)
I wish we could block out signatures or they would implement something so that new registrations are still associated to the referred affiliate. I don't understand why they don't care for their webmaster affiliates. When i check the front page the webcams all have signatures with "Create new account" text's in them. I mean sure, CB doesn't lose as they will still get their money but they really should think about taking more care for their webmasters as i don't think a lot of people will tolerate it more longer when their revenue is going down the shitter. Mine decreased -80% if i compare it to 2 years ago.

I totally agree with you, with some database rules and queries they can establish that, and also set the registrations back to the affiliate that brought them in.

Out of that it's about time that CB is going to refresh the GUI, when you look to other camsites CB is outdated.

cams.com looks good, but there are not so many models, and what i can find they only pay by check

Speigelau 03-19-2020 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22628208)
All I have to say is...




Here Steve, your first order of business, please suspend this cams.com affiliate who is massing spamming CB chat.

"433𝚜𝚎𝚡.𝚌𝚘𝚖 - Tʜɪs ᴡᴇʙsɪᴛᴇ ɪs ᴡᴀʏ ʙᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴛʜᴀɴ ᴄʜᴀᴛᴜʀʙᴀᴛᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛs ғʀᴇᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴍɪʟʟɪᴏɴs ᴏғ ᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀs.ɪ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ sʜᴀʀᴇ ɪᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪᴛs ᴛʜᴇ ʟᴀʀɢᴇsᴛ ғʀᴇᴇ ᴡᴇʙsɪᴛᴇ ɪɴ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴀʀᴇᴀ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴇᴇᴛ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜ ʟɪᴠᴇ sʜᴏᴡs.."

Speigelau 03-19-2020 01:55 AM

Here we go, I knew it wouldn't take long.

https://chaturbate.com/coronavirusxxx/

Says she is in China of all places.

Brand new and already has over 10k in her room, simply because of the name.

GoCastaway 03-19-2020 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22629113)
Here we go, I knew it wouldn't take long.

https://chaturbate.com/coronavirusxxx/

Says she is in China of all places.

Brand new and already has over 10k in her room, simply because of the name.

Already banned

drexl 03-19-2020 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Goethe (Post 22628911)
Can this be added to roboscripts?

What are roboscripts requirements?

Speigelau 03-19-2020 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22629129)
Already banned

Nice, looks like the members spoke with the report button.

Goethe 03-19-2020 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22629142)
What are roboscripts requirements?

If you mean technical, no idea. In the roboscripts admin panel you can select which site to pull models from. IIRC cams.com is not an option. Just wondering if it’s in the works.

drexl 03-19-2020 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Goethe (Post 22629180)
If you mean technical, no idea. In the roboscripts admin panel you can select which site to pull models from. IIRC cams.com is not an option. Just wondering if it’s in the works.

Ah yes thanks, that's what I meant. I was genuinely interested in what "roboscripts" is and was trying to help CourtneyR_FFN answer the question.

From what you said it looks like the roboscripts developer has to implement a function to parse cams.com specific feed. TBC.

Of course I guessed that roboscripts is a cam aggregator but I haven't used it. I am a programmer myself, I did custom cam aggegation for my Mechbunny tubes.

lockept93 03-19-2020 08:43 AM

Is this chargeback problem only a thing on Chaturbate or is it everywhere?
Why is that possible to get back the spending money?

Can someone explain? I'm not so long into this.

drexl 03-19-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22629325)
Is this chargeback problem only a thing on Chaturbate or is it everywhere?
Why is that possible to get back the spending money?

Can someone explain? I'm not so long into this.

This is not specific to cb, or even to cam sites. It happens when a consumer claims to have never received the goods/service as promised at the time of purchase.

sarettah 03-19-2020 12:44 PM

Turdy Tree and Fiddy Won Chaturbate Cams.

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22629452)
This is not specific to cb, or even to cam sites. It happens when a consumer claims to have never received the goods/service as promised at the time of purchase.

Or when someone claims that someone hijacked their cc instead of admitting to their wife that "yes, I did spend $5k on a camgirl." :thumbsup

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lockept93 03-19-2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22629525)
Turdy Tree and Fiddy Won Chaturbate Cams.



Or when someone claims that someone hijacked their cc instead of admitting to their wife that "yes, I did spend $5k on a camgirl." :thumbsup

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But it's only a law thing for US people? Or does this option can be used by everybody from around the world?

Speigelau 03-19-2020 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22629553)
But it's only a law thing for US people? Or does this option can be used by everybody from around the world?

Anyone that owns a credit card, no matter what country they reside, can dispute a charge and in most cases get a refund.

Chargebacks can also happen when a fraudulent credit card is used to make a purchase on a site. Then the theft is reported and all charges are charged back.

Shedevils 03-19-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by heiko0o (Post 22629038)
It also seems like, that the more traffic i try to generate and send to my WL's the lesser revenue i get. 2019 was bad, mid 2019 i started to send a lot of traffic to CB again and actually thought that it would get better in 2020. But it seems like, the longer i am staying, the less the revenue becomes. March was actually now the worst month i ever had since promoting CB for 4 years now. And i've been promoting it very heavily in the last 3-5 months.


I could have written this same comment myself. Throwing more traffic at the problem is not going to help.

The fact that they turn a blind eye to the obvious leaking, the CSS issue and the lack of response to email support is the icing on the cake.

marktruman 03-19-2020 02:48 PM

been an affiliate with chaturbate for 5 years and today I got this email

" Our intermediary bank is requesting further documentation before they can release the latest payment that was processed. Please provide us with 2 forms of ID or a signed passport and we will forward this information over to our bank."


WHAT? I have one form of ID which is a provisional licence, two forms, what are they smoking, who has 2 forms of ID? I'm from UK

and they chose now to do this, how am I supposed to go out and get another ID with this lockdown

drexl 03-19-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22629525)
Or when someone claims that someone hijacked their cc instead of admitting to their wife that "yes, I did spend $5k on a camgirl." :thumbsup

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100% correct :thumbsup:thumbsup

drexl 03-19-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 22629574)
Throwing more traffic at the problem is not going to help.


Webmaster throwing more traffic:
https://external-content.duckduckgo....gif&f=1&nofb=1

CourtneyR 03-20-2020 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Goethe (Post 22629180)
If you mean technical, no idea. In the roboscripts admin panel you can select which site to pull models from. IIRC cams.com is not an option. Just wondering if it’s in the works.

If you want to pull specific models, yes you can. hit me up on skype and i'll send over the documentation.

CourtneyR 03-20-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22629110)
Here Steve, your first order of business, please suspend this cams.com affiliate who is massing spamming CB chat.

"433𝚜𝚎𝚡.𝚌𝚘𝚖 - Tʜɪs ᴡᴇʙsɪᴛᴇ ɪs ᴡᴀʏ ʙᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴛʜᴀɴ ᴄʜᴀᴛᴜʀʙᴀᴛᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛs ғʀᴇᴇ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴍɪʟʟɪᴏɴs ᴏғ ᴍᴇᴍʙᴇʀs.ɪ ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴡᴀɴᴛᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ sʜᴀʀᴇ ɪᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ʏᴏᴜ, ɪᴛs ᴛʜᴇ ʟᴀʀɢᴇsᴛ ғʀᴇᴇ ᴡᴇʙsɪᴛᴇ ɪɴ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴀʀᴇᴀ ᴛᴏ ᴍᴇᴇᴛ ᴘᴇᴏᴘʟᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴡᴀᴛᴄʜ ʟɪᴠᴇ sʜᴏᴡs.."

433𝚜𝚎𝚡.𝚌𝚘𝚖 redirects to stripchat. This is not one of Cams.com's sites.

Speigelau 03-20-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 22630114)
433𝚜𝚎𝚡.𝚌𝚘𝚖 redirects to stripchat. This is not one of Cams.com's sites.


My bad, I mistakenly thought stripcash was part of the cams.com network. I see now its an xhmaster program.


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