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Old 02-10-2019, 09:17 AM   #1551
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so true words. Let us wait for the answer email to Brian mike from her, than we have the facts!

Iam also curious, how lilith petite want do/broadcast the 200usdollars per 15minutes private show ??

Its a shame, when one camgirl have this ideas and can do it, iam sure, more cb models try and can do it too.
Guessing she will choose the easy way, take a paypal payment and then does a Skype Call with the person that deposited the money.
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:17 AM   #1552
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Also, I will say it again, the banner overlay that they use needs to be blocked technically. Can you imagine the overhead of reporting every possible offenders spreading daily.
My words. Is it not against terms? why this girls can do it and nobody recheck or research it ?

This Overlays make every WL and affilater everyday a KNOCKOUT.
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:36 AM   #1553
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Well I guess now we know why a lot of affiliates get less revenue now compared to 2017/2016/2015. A lot of cam models try to do everything they can to get money off-site with Amazon, private Skype calls or stealing whales. This sucks!
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:41 AM   #1554
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Iam also curious, how lilith petite want do/broadcast the 200usdollars per 15minutes private show ??
Im asking her a Skype show and she did not refuse it

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Let us wait for the answer email to Brian mike from her, than we have the facts!
Her direct reply i just received 8 minutes ago



As you can see she requested payment out of chaturbate platform
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:04 AM   #1555
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Im asking her a Skype show and she did not refuse it



Her direct reply i just received 8 minutes ago



As you can see she requested payment out of chaturbate platform
crazy girl, i thought she dont do cam to cam or One on One :/

shes is so ridiculous.
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:26 AM   #1556
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Im asking her a Skype show and she did not refuse it



Her direct reply i just received 8 minutes ago



As you can see she requested payment out of chaturbate platform
This is ridiculous, I am getting sick.
I wonder does Steve check this topic regularly?
Have you emailed this to chaturbate?

I guess, cam girls are making enough money by broadcasting themself, CB should disable broadcaster's affiliate links and link exchanging ability in private messages.
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:35 AM   #1557
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" If you want to gift me something from the wishlists, send the e-card(gift card) from Amazon UK or Amazon ES * with a little note with the link of the item that you wish to gift me ^_^ to [email protected] "
why Whales would use CB when they can have a direct Skype show with no % to affiliate nor CB them self. lol

These private deals exist for years. The good thing about such methods is that they not only
harm the webmasters but also CB and the honest models.
Maybe CB will change its TOS if the damage by such methods is big enough.

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Old 02-10-2019, 10:47 AM   #1558
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Guys, we're supposed to be the smart ones.

Another thing to add to the list: models should provide a list of medias that can be used by affiliates. It is a pain in the ass to spend hours pushing traffic to models who will bite you back in the ass with a dmca for using pictures of them that provide traffic to the platform they live off of.

An easy thing to do would be to have a note in the T&C when they sign up: "I allow Chaturbate's partners to use my profile pictures and clips for the sole purpose of promoting my chaturbate page"

It is also crucial for not losing your social media account if that's what you do.

Should we start making a persistent list of all those important things or else it is just a wasted rant on the Internet: most of those prbs reported above I mentioned months ago. I also see my earnings melting away.

Did you read my last thread about the idea of removing lifetime and effectively binding customers with a more robust bind than simply the username?
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:57 AM   #1559
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Guys, we're supposed to be the smart ones.
I think Webmaster are Still the Smarter one and SOME OF THEM HAVE take it to another Level by opening up their studio using large platfom like CB and promoting model directly.

Those girl are not doing it on their own. ITs a new Era = Webmaster AKA Pimp Daddy in the House Yo

Kind of hard to think those Models are all 100% smart and all Geek squad coding shit and setting up overlay the way they do lol .
Think >>> Webmaster/ designer AKA Pimp Daddy
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Now on the first 3 rows on page 1, took 5 mins to find......

some with external links to make money or gitcards around CB and affiliates.

I think the "wishlist" in the BIO should be removed.

https://nl.chaturbate.com/sophydiva/

https://nl.chaturbate.com/sweetmila1/

https://nl.chaturbate.com/elisadeathnaked/

https://nl.chaturbate.com/sammyfloodxxx/

https://linktr.ee/heatherbby_9
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online now with a HUGE "join me" button overlay and a big dirty dmca logo : https://chaturbate.com/siswet19/



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Now on the first 3 rows on page 1, took 5 mins to find......

some with external links to make money or gitcards around CB and affiliates.

I think the "wishlist" in the BIO should be removed.

https://nl.chaturbate.com/sophydiva/

https://nl.chaturbate.com/sweetmila1/

https://nl.chaturbate.com/elisadeathnaked/

https://nl.chaturbate.com/sammyfloodxxx/

https://linktr.ee/heatherbby_9
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:05 PM   #1562
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https://chaturbate.com/_silent__v_/
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:09 PM   #1563
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Congrats here is the next stupid cam girl:
https://en.chaturbate.com/marryjanegreen/
14000k visitors, top join button is totaly dead wtf ???????????????????????????????
If you have a whitelabel you can edit the CSS and fix some of this while waiting for CB to take action. Like the code below that makes the signup button come on top of "their" buttons. Of course it is a cat-and-mouse game but it can help for a while, and only on whitelabels.

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Old 02-10-2019, 12:13 PM   #1564
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Chaturbate = Traffic leak central. Im gutted
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:19 PM   #1566
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online now with a HUGE "join me" button overlay and a big dirty dmca logo : https://chaturbate.com/siswet19/
i already wrote this here, some sites before :/

so sad, to see so many girls overlay buttons.


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WHO THE FUCK IS THIS??!?!?!?!??? Virtual P.I.M.P
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Ban custom bio and external contact forms

Its a shame when there content is uploaded for free there would be all hell to pay
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Old 02-10-2019, 07:54 PM   #1568
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If you have a whitelabel you can edit the CSS and fix some of this while waiting for CB to take action. Like the code below that makes the signup button come on top of "their" buttons. Of course it is a cat-and-mouse game but it can help for a while, and only on whitelabels.

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Thanks a lot of posting this man, I've added it to my whitelabel. I really appreciate it.
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If you have a whitelabel you can edit the CSS and fix some of this while waiting for CB to take action. Like the code below that makes the signup button come on top of "their" buttons. Of course it is a cat-and-mouse game but it can help for a while, and only on whitelabels.

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    z-index: 10;
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CSS is especially for styling on the website if i am correct? Would someone be able to block out all whitelabel links (for all camgirls) or redirect them to their own WL? Because, if cammodels are allowed to do it, then we should be allowed as well?
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Thanks bro. I think it works but I have yet to see any buttons or overlays on streams. But now my code to remove the powered by and link to cb is there. Is it possible to transform on the stream pages "powered by chaturbate" to remove that and anything that says chaturbate turned into yourwhitelabel name? if cb support sees this they should add that if it can't be done,
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iam curious for this coming Vday sales. The day before and after. whats your experience of the last years of ValentinesDay Sales gfy´ler :-)
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Someone know about the following bug: if a user on a white label click on the cb affiliate link inside the model's chat room (as overlay or suggested by the girl) and signup the white label site owner will not get credit.
I emailed support multiple times about this bug and Steve too however no reply, have you tried???
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iam curious for this coming Vday sales. The day before and after. whats your experience of the last years of ValentinesDay Sales gfy´ler :-)
I never had a huge spike in sales in the last years!
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I emailed support multiple times about this bug and Steve too however no reply, have you tried???
Hi, from my point of view this is not a bug, this is how cookies work (they are based on domain) but this is definitely an issue to be looked at. The solution to the issue you are describing is to have them prevent overlays from being put in place. Another solution would be for them to somehow plant a cookie on the cb domain from your whitelabel which you can already achieve by using <whitelabel.chaturbate.com> instead of <whitelabel.com> but then you are limited by ad blockers (which is why I used a <whitelabel.com> form in the first place)
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True but this only works if their trick button is overlaying the signup button. They can make huge flashy signup banners appearing pretty much anywhere, check this out:
https://gfycat.com/VacantShockedAmurratsnake


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If you have a whitelabel you can edit the CSS and fix some of this while waiting for CB to take action. Like the code below that makes the signup button come on top of "their" buttons. Of course it is a cat-and-mouse game but it can help for a while, and only on whitelabels.

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I never had a huge spike in sales in the last years!
i hope this year it can be good, for us
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iam curious for this coming Vday sales. The day before and after. whats your experience of the last years of ValentinesDay Sales gfy´ler :-)
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I never had a huge spike in sales in the last years!
I saw a spike on the 13th in 2015 and 2016. I do not see anything significant in 2017 or 2018. So, no real pattern of significant increases around V Day.



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I saw a spike on the 13th in 2015 and 2016. I do not see anything significant in 2017 or 2018. So, no real pattern of significant increases around V Day.



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Thank you for your specific review and stats, i understand you now :-)
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So far, i think February 1-15 has been the worst month for me since promoting Chaturbate, my average revenue has sunk -92%.. Contemplating if its even worth still promoting Chaturbate..
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Hi guys, I emailed Steve about the white label bug, and here is his answer:


"Great, thanks for the update. Do you know anything about the white label bug???its mentioned by a few people on gfy forum that when users on white label site clicked on a affiliate logo on a model room and sign up a account, the white label owner will not get credit, is this bug current being looked into???

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We've previously tested our Whitelabels about this issue and always saw the proper credit being applied. I can have the engineers try to replicate things again over the next few weeks."
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When a visitor is on your <whitelabel.com>, it counts for 1 visit in the stats (it will increment raw visits and unique visits columns)
After the visitor clicks on a custom made SIGN UP button that links out to chaturbate.com the cookie is planted in the visitor's navigator under the chaturbate domain (not the whitelabel), thus any free signup to cb that follows a click on this banner will be credited to the model, not you.

This is not just a matter of being tested, this is how cookies work. Unless the engineers have implemented a workaround then there's a leak.

There is a reason why broadcasters are doing this: it works.


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Hi guys, I emailed Steve about the white label bug, and here is his answer:


"Great, thanks for the update. Do you know anything about the white label bug???its mentioned by a few people on gfy forum that when users on white label site clicked on a affiliate logo on a model room and sign up a account, the white label owner will not get credit, is this bug current being looked into???

Regards

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We've previously tested our Whitelabels about this issue and always saw the proper credit being applied. I can have the engineers try to replicate things again over the next few weeks."
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When a visitor is on your <whitelabel.com>, it counts for 1 visit in the stats (it will increment raw visits and unique visits columns)
After the visitor clicks on a custom made SIGN UP button that links out to chaturbate.com the cookie is planted in the visitor's navigator under the chaturbate domain (not the whitelabel), thus any free signup to cb that follows a click on this banner will be credited to the model, not you.

This is not just a matter of being tested, this is how cookies work. Unless the engineers have implemented a workaround then there's a leak.

There is a reason why broadcasters are doing this: it works.
We should definitely stay clear of whitelabels until the join buttons of the models are removed I guess then.
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chaturbate.com/clara_chan

Guys, please also report on this model, she’s asking users to sign up a new account with specific username under her affiliate link, this is no different than asking user to clean their cookie, another dirty trick to steal our old spenders
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Another bug:

Code:
<meta property="og:title" content="Watch xxxx live on Chaturbate!" />
should be

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<meta property="og:title" content="Watch xxxxx live on <whitelabel name>!" />
This shows up in social medias when your page is shared, and elsewhere.
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Guys, please also report on this model, she’s asking users to sign up a new account with specific username under her affiliate link, this is no different than asking user to clean their cookie, another dirty trick to steal our old spenders
Too many to report. I just randomly clicked on 2 models and same shenanigans:

chaturbate.com/sexcarla
chaturbate.com/heatherbby9
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Unfortunately, chaturbate WLs always had bugs and traffic leaks! 90% of the traffic I sent to CB goes to my main WL! This means I lost money daily!
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Guys, please also report on this model, she’s asking users to sign up a new account with specific username under her affiliate link, this is no different than asking user to clean their cookie, another dirty trick to steal our old spenders
I have just emailed support again about this. They need to send out emails/messages to all webcam models. Tell them they put this in their bio or are caught doing it in private, they risk being banned from the site. Unacceptable
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I have just emailed support again about this. They need to send out emails/messages to all webcam models. Tell them they put this in their bio or are caught doing it in private, they risk being banned from the site. Unacceptable
I think it's unacceptable how long chaturbate is taking dealing with this issue. Makes me wonder if they are even bothered to be honest. Personally I will give them a week or two and if there's no action pull their links and look elsewhere.
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I have just emailed support again about this. They need to send out emails/messages to all webcam models. Tell them they put this in their bio or are caught doing it in private, they risk being banned from the site. Unacceptable
It has to be addressed systemically, you can't just ask people to be honest.

The problem now with the holes in Charturbate is that everyone knows how to game them. I have even seen guides on setting all of this up. It used to be just a few smart assess doing this, but now nearly every model views this as part of the set up process and perfectly natural.
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I think it's unacceptable how long chaturbate is taking dealing with this issue. Makes me wonder if they are even bothered to be honest. Personally I will give them a week or two and if there's no action pull their links and look elsewhere.
Is there someone working in legal in this forum?

I see no reason why inbound links are allowed at all, they are nothing less than fraud: why would you need to link to chaturbate from chaturbate. It is easy to restrict this too.
By the time this is addressed, if ever, the market will be saturated. We already missed a lot of potential earnings because of last year's bug with mobile traffic being lost. (cb was benefiting from this bug)
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:59 AM   #1591
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chaturbate.com/clara_chan

Guys, please also report on this model, she’s asking users to sign up a new account with specific username under her affiliate link, this is no different than asking user to clean their cookie, another dirty trick to steal our old spenders

Is it just my impression, or got this shit got more and more, since cb runs on mindgeek.
I hope they didnt finance their media byuing, with shit like that!

My last 400 leads that i made since december, didnt made any sale wtf ??????
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Is anyone here good friend with Steve? please invite him here to share thoughts. I really like to know his position on this and if he is able to address the issue
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Is anyone here good friend with Steve? please invite him here to share thoughts. I really like to know his position on this and if he is able to address the issue
Do not you think, he knows the biggest thread about his program, on the internet?
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:52 AM   #1594
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Another bug:

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<meta property="og:title" content="Watch xxxx live on Chaturbate!" />
should be

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<meta property="og:title" content="Watch xxxxx live on <whitelabel name>!" />
This shows up in social medias when your page is shared, and elsewhere.
Anyway to fix this?
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:47 AM   #1595
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Is anyone here good friend with Steve? please invite him here to share thoughts. I really like to know his position on this and if he is able to address the issue
He has his own account on here and he has even posted in this thread, so it is not like he does not know about it.
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From what I read, Steve seems to be our contact here.

There is one thing we need him to ask the cb engineers (those who know the technical implementation, not the support level 1 folks):

Is a visitor cookied against the *.chaturbate.com domains (and subdomains) when coming from whitelabel.com ? Same question with whitelabel.chaturbate.com

Regardless of this, custom inbound links within chaturbate.com shouldn't be.

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Its so sad

I just got couple article of few performer from my writer to add to my Cam review blog and i got this model today https://chaturbate.com/misslusciousxox/

LOL Its forward all traffic from her profile to fancentro https://fancentro.com/missluscious .... This is becoming a bigger problem now.

On her twitter she have MFC etc.. but no mention of Chaturbate https://twitter.com/lusciousxox

My income is on the rise with CB but for how long ...... hummmmmmm.
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And still no answer from Chaturbate... guess it's time to find another Website soon
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I really ask my self whats up with CB ... Im looking up CB stats on similar web and interesting stuff going on.

wmu = Epoch 4.14% of the traffic | Almost 60% of the traffic go out on third party site

Am i crazy or ?



find bellow an another popular cam site similar web stats Where Processor have Majority of traffic from the site.



I really like the last couple years with CB , but something need to be done... All this just make me sick
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Is there someone working in legal in this forum?

I see no reason why inbound links are allowed at all, they are nothing less than fraud: why would you need to link to chaturbate from chaturbate. It is easy to restrict this too.
By the time this is addressed, if ever, the market will be saturated. We already missed a lot of potential earnings because of last year's bug with mobile traffic being lost. (cb was benefiting from this bug)
I think chaturbate should take away the ability to customize model profiles beyond changing the colours. I know that's not enough to completely stop this problem since they can lead guys away through pm and all that. The fact is the shit they are getting away with now is a joke and rubbed in our faces.

A chaturbate representative should at the very least care enough to post more in here, interact with us about our concerns and put our minds at rest that they are working on fixing these issues.
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