Trump was actually *for* the Iraq war, before he was against it... - GoFuckYourself.com

TCLGirls · 02-18-2016, 08:46 PM

"For months, Donald Trump has claimed that he opposed the Iraq War before the invasion began â?? as an example of his great judgment on foreign policy issues.

But in a 2002 interview with Howard Stern, Donald Trump said he supported an Iraq invasion.

In the interview, which took place on Sept. 11, 2002, Stern asked Trump directly if he was for invading Iraq.

â??Yeah I guess so,â? Trump responded. â??I wish the first time it was done correctly.â?

Trump has repeatedly claimed that he was against the Iraq War before it began, despite no evidence of him publicly stating this position. On Meet the Press, Trump said there werenâ??t many articles about his opposition because he wasnâ??t a politician at the time."

In 2002, Donald Trump Said He Supported Invading Iraq - BuzzFeed News

Tubthumper · 02-18-2016, 09:02 PM

"Breaking news from Buzzfeed!" - said nobody ever

L-Pink · 02-18-2016, 09:04 PM

A lot can happen in 14 years. The OP might even get laid.

sarettah · 02-18-2016, 09:04 PM

About 1:44 in.

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BIGTYMER · 02-18-2016, 09:05 PM

2MuchMark · 02-18-2016, 09:26 PM

Rochard · 02-18-2016, 09:45 PM

Trump lies about everything.

I hope he wins the nomination. This will be amusing.

mineistaken · 02-18-2016, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Trump lies about everything.

I hope he wins the nomination. This will be amusing.

Lies? Can it be that he was for it and changed his mind later? That is what people do you know. Especially if they get more information during the time.

Robbie · 02-19-2016, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

A lot can happen in 14 years. The OP might even get laid.

That is something that will never happen.

The "dork" is strong in him...

Robbie · 02-19-2016, 12:22 AM

Trump spoke about this tonight on the CNN "Town Hall Meeting" when Anderson Cooper asked him about it.
Said "yeah" he probably said that on the Stern show. So what?

You know...I was all fired up about it too in 2002. Thought it was great.

About a year or so later I started realizing that my initial reaction was one that the media and the govt. had gotten me to go with (remember how the media was "embedded" with the troops and ALL of their reports were pro-war).

I understand where Trump is coming from on it. Just like I understand why Hillary voted to invade Iraq.

I don't blame Trump for realizing the truth.

But I DO blame the rest of the Republican candidates for trying to defend that shit to this very day.
The OP is so worried about Trump because he's scared Trump will easily beat Hillary...if she makes it to the general election.

Yanks_Todd · 02-19-2016, 12:26 AM

I don't like Trump but all this is such a non-issue. For or against at this point makes no difference. He has the right to have changed his mind between the first mention of the war in Iraq and now.

I just find it sad that the GOP spins it's tires so much on who said what, who was born where, calling each other names etc. etc. I am more concerned about Trump's opinions and approaches on things going forward. Same as I am with Cruz, Bernie and Hillary.

Yanks_Todd · 02-19-2016, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

But I DO blame the rest of the Republican candidates for trying to defend that shit to this very day.

This surprises me as it seems like a safe thing to distance yourself from. Although I guess than the GOP would have to possibly take some blame for the current situation there. I do give Trump props for being candid in regards to that.

BIGTYMER · 02-19-2016, 01:16 AM

His answer to this during tonight's town hall satisfied me.

This was BEFORE the war started. There is proof AFTER the war started he spoke against it. Makes sense to me.

muthisdev · 02-19-2016, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

But I DO blame the rest of the Republican candidates for trying to defend that shit to this very day.
The OP is so worried about Trump because he's scared Trump will easily beat Hillary...if she makes it to the general election.

Read 538. They talk about "lanes". There's an establishment lane (Rubio, Kascich, Bush), and an outsider lane (Trump, Carson). If you're establishment, you have to tow the party line. You have the baggage of George W. Bush. Especially Jeb.

bronco67 · 02-19-2016, 08:39 AM

He was for it until after it started. Just like me and a lot of other people. So, nothing to see here really.

blogspot · 02-19-2016, 11:01 AM

next president will be ...... george cluney

crockett · 02-19-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Was he actually practicing dumb facial expressions for TV?

Joshua G · 02-19-2016, 12:36 PM

wow its a great fucking thing that TCLgirls takes the time to inform us that donald trump changes positions & also denies saying things that he was taped as saying. im glad it took you only 8 months to figure it out. imagine if you were so ignorant on election day, & voted for trump!

please do your neighbors a favor & dont riot when the sexist racist etc etc becomes president! but i suspect your too fat & will simply grab a pint of ben & jerrys to drown your sorrows.

SuckOnThis · 02-19-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

wow its a great fucking thing that TCLgirls takes the time to inform us that donald trump changes positions & also denies saying things that he was taped as saying. im glad it took you only 8 months to figure it out. imagine if you were so ignorant on election day, & voted for trump!

please do your neighbors a favor & dont riot when the sexist racist etc etc becomes president! but i suspect your too fat & will simply grab a pint of ben & jerrys to drown your sorrows.

baddog · 02-19-2016, 02:43 PM

Everyone was for it in 2002

TCLGirls · 02-19-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Everyone was for it in 2002

Well Bernie voted against it in 2002. Even a Republican (Lincoln Chafee) voted against it.

Robbie · 02-19-2016, 03:35 PM

Posting this and hoping for "high 5's" didn't quite work out for you on this thread.
Maybe you'll have better luck on the next one.

Try attacking some of the real conservative religious nut cases running in the Republican primary. Cruz and Rubio are easy to rip on.

Pretending to be a liberal and attacking Trump all the time just won't work with your limited skill set.

FetishWeb · 02-19-2016, 04:33 PM

Trump is not running to be elected as a message board commentator or an armchair dittohead. He's running for COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF of the armed forces.

A position and job where you are not afforded the opportunity to be wrong before you were right without doing catastrophic damage, as evidenced by the last person republicans wanted to give the job to.

dyna mo · 02-19-2016, 04:55 PM

What's Hillary's latest excuse for voting for the war before she was kinda not for her vote for Iraq war?

Rochard · 02-19-2016, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Lies? Can it be that he was for it and changed his mind later? That is what people do you know. Especially if they get more information during the time.

He did change his mind. Thus, when he says "I was against the war" that is a lie.

Lie: "I was against the war".
Truth: "I was for the war originally, but I flip flopped and now I am against it".

He also lies about his campaign not being financed by contributions.

Donald Trump 2016 campaign raises $3.9 million - POLITICO
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/16/donal...-campaign.html

Rochard · 02-19-2016, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Everyone was for it in 2002

I think Baddog is right. The vast majority was for us going into Iraq. This was shortly after 9/11, we were still pissed, and we were told they had WMD.

TheSquealer · 02-19-2016, 05:09 PM

In other news, Clinton says she's never lied. But thats ok, i guess.

Hillary Clinton: '''I Don'''t Believe''' I Have Ever Lied - NBC News

dyna mo · 02-19-2016, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

In other news, Clinton says she's never lied. But thats ok, i guess.

Hillary Clinton: '''I Don'''t Believe''' I Have Ever Lied - NBC News

Dang. She actually hedges and claims she doesn't "believe" she's lied.

TheSquealer · 02-19-2016, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

Dang. She actually hedges and claims she doesn't "believe" she's lied.

the funny thing is that its being revealed that she lied and lied again with the email bs every week just with that one issue alone... never mind the fact that every human being has lied. But lucky for her, shes a democrat so that all gets filed under "who cares" and "whats the big deal" by the same idiots attacking others for trivialities.

Joshua G · 02-19-2016, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FetishWeb

Trump is not running to be elected as a message board commentator or an armchair dittohead. He's running for COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF of the armed forces.

A position and job where you are not afforded the opportunity to be wrong before you were right without doing catastrophic damage, as evidenced by the last person republicans wanted to give the job to.

you comments demonstrate a blind ignorance of trumps stated positions on going to war. maybe you should inform yourself. reading liberal rags wont cut it, son.

FetishWeb · 02-19-2016, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

you comments demonstrate a blind ignorance of trumps stated positions on going to war. maybe you should inform yourself. reading liberal rags wont cut it, son.

He was for the war. When it was popular to say so.

Now he's against the war. Now that it is popular to say so.

If he polled better saying he was for the war, he would still be "for the war". Most informed people don't trust oligarchs posing as capitalists that carry populist messages when they have historically demonstrated less judgement than people like Hunter S. Thompson.

TCLGirls · 02-19-2016, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Posting this and hoping for "high 5's" didn't quite work out for you on this thread.
Maybe you'll have better luck on the next one.

Try attacking some of the real conservative religious nut cases running in the Republican primary. Cruz and Rubio are easy to rip on.

Pretending to be a liberal and attacking Trump all the time just won't work with your limited skill set.

Hey numbnuts. I want Trump to win the GOP.

noshit · 02-19-2016, 06:33 PM

Funny thing is, you won't have to be bothered with the fabricated divide and conquer tactics of tyrants when Trump gets in.
The Globalists will be exposed for what they are, brought to justice, And. Done.

It will be the age of MAN

Coup · 02-19-2016, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noshit

Funny thing is, you won't have to be bothered with the fabricated divide and conquer tactics of tyrants when Trump gets in.
The Globalists will be exposed for what they are, brought to justice, And. Done.

It will be the age of MAN

good one, OP

Robbie · 02-19-2016, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishWeb

He was for the war. When it was popular to say so.

Now he's against the war. Now that it is popular to say so.

If he polled better saying he was for the war, he would still be "for the war". Most informed people don't trust oligarchs posing as capitalists that carry populist messages when they have historically demonstrated less judgement than people like Hunter S. Thompson.

He wasn't a politician in 2002 so he had no reasons to care about a poll. So that pretty much negates your foolish statement.

And if he wanted to go with polls to win the Republican nomination he wouldn't have said what he said about the war and Bush. It was a very UN-Republican thing to say.

You're blinded by your bias. And trying to look down your nose at other people THINKING you are somehow more "informed" (smarter) than other people...is a joke.

dyna mo · 02-19-2016, 08:39 PM

Nice to see Trump take the higher road re: the outrageous comment from the Pope about Trump not being a Christian.

FetishWeb · 02-19-2016, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

He wasn't a politician in 2002 so he had no reasons to care about a poll. So that pretty much negates your foolish statement.
.

I guess you have a point. Trump has no history in politics (or experience) so who knows what he believes or what he would do as a military leader; aside from change his mind after the fact.

sandman! · 02-19-2016, 09:20 PM

all politicians lie

Robbie · 02-19-2016, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FetishWeb

I guess you have a point. Trump has no history in politics (or experience) so who knows what he believes or what he would do as a military leader; aside from change his mind after the fact.

So you are under the impression that only a politician/lifelong bureaucrat is competent enough to be President?

And no, I'm not attacking you for that thought. It's one that has been hammered into our consciousness by the Ruling Class party's our entire lives.

I personally disagree with it 100%.

There are only 5 people living who have experience as the President Of The United States.

So no matter whom we elect...they will NOT have any experience as President.
None of the candidates on either side are privy to the up to the second information that President Obama has at his disposal.
Take Rubio for example...he babbles about being on a committee in Congress. That committee isn't shown the top secret stuff that Obama sees. So his "experience" isn't going to do him one damn bit of good.

Once the election is over...whomever wins will be brought up to speed between Nov. 4, 2016 and Jan. 20th 2017 (when they take office).

I'm not one bit worried about that at all.

What I'm concerned with is...the economy. And the absolute corruption in Washignton D.C.
Basically the fleecing of the American people by crooks in office.

Trump represents a President who isn't controlled by the special interests. You can make snarky remarks all you want, but that is what is fueling his campaign.

The PEOPLE are sick of getting fucked...to put it bluntly. Obama promised "Hope and Change" and didn't even TRY to deliver that.
Instead, as the economy was tanking and people were desperate for jobs and losing everything they had...he spent a year on the disaster known as "ObamaCare".

People gave THAT unexperienced politician a chance thinking that maybe he wouldn't be "business as usual". He was very disappointing.

This is a political revolution.

And yes...I do think that a President Trump could turn this economy around and do a MUCH better job than Obama has done.

But that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to present it as unequivocally, 100% FACT from my all-knowing mind.

But I do know this much: All of the other Republican candidates are bought and paid for by the same big companies that also own Hillary.
Any Democrat not named Sanders and any Republican not named Trump will continue the same bullshit in Washington D.C. that has gone on for decades under every other administration.

This political season might just be the one and only time we have to literally turn that around.

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TCLGirls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 3,068	*Trump was actually for* the Iraq war, before he was against it...** "For months, Donald Trump has claimed that he opposed the Iraq War before the invasion began â?? as an example of his great judgment on foreign policy issues. But in a 2002 interview with Howard Stern, Donald Trump said he supported an Iraq invasion. In the interview, which took place on Sept. 11, 2002, Stern asked Trump directly if he was for invading Iraq. â??Yeah I guess so,â? Trump responded. â??I wish the first time it was done correctly.â? Trump has repeatedly claimed that he was against the Iraq War before it began, despite no evidence of him publicly stating this position. On Meet the Press, Trump said there werenâ??t many articles about his opposition because he wasnâ??t a politician at the time." In 2002, Donald Trump Said He Supported Invading Iraq - BuzzFeed News

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,842	Trump spoke about this tonight on the CNN "Town Hall Meeting" when Anderson Cooper asked him about it. Said "yeah" he probably said that on the Stern show. So what? You know...I was all fired up about it too in 2002. Thought it was great. About a year or so later I started realizing that my initial reaction was one that the media and the govt. had gotten me to go with (remember how the media was "embedded" with the troops and ALL of their reports were pro-war). I understand where Trump is coming from on it. Just like I understand why Hillary voted to invade Iraq. I don't blame Trump for realizing the truth. But I DO blame the rest of the Republican candidates for trying to defend that shit to this very day. The OP is so worried about Trump because he's scared Trump will easily beat Hillary...if she makes it to the general election. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,152	A lot can happen in 14 years. The OP might even get laid.

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sarettah l8r Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,610	About 1:44 in. .

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BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	His answer to this during tonight's town hall satisfied me. This was BEFORE the war started. There is proof AFTER the war started he spoke against it. Makes sense to me.

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Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	wow its a great fucking thing that TCLgirls takes the time to inform us that donald trump changes positions & also denies saying things that he was taped as saying. im glad it took you only 8 months to figure it out. imagine if you were so ignorant on election day, & voted for trump! please do your neighbors a favor & dont riot when the sexist racist etc etc becomes president! but i suspect your too fat & will simply grab a pint of ben & jerrys to drown your sorrows.

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FetishWeb Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 390	Trump is not running to be elected as a message board commentator or an armchair dittohead. He's running for COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF of the armed forces. A position and job where you are not afforded the opportunity to be wrong before you were right without doing catastrophic damage, as evidenced by the last person republicans wanted to give the job to.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,365	What's Hillary's latest excuse for voting for the war before she was kinda not for her vote for Iraq war?

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 60,365	Nice to see Trump take the higher road re: the outrageous comment from the Pope about Trump not being a Christian.

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