Credit Card Processor Needed - GoFuckYourself.com

iTaboo · 05-18-2016, 08:31 AM

iTaboo.com is gearing up to accept credit cards and would like to get some info on accepting credit cards for our site.

Can you please email me at [email protected] with info like rates and such.

We will be starting small and growing over time.

Thanks

NatalieK · 05-18-2016, 08:43 AM

CCBill is probably your best bet tbh

plaster · 05-18-2016, 08:47 AM

Your going to spend 1k+ with visa/mastercard fees. Then likely 15% in fees. If I had a merchant account, which I do, I'd bill for your site. Unfortunately my generosity has sailed and no longer give a shit.

Miguel T · 05-18-2016, 08:53 AM

CCBill or EPOCH

baddog · 05-18-2016, 08:54 AM

Mobius Payments

Sly · 05-18-2016, 09:46 AM

Start with Epoch. When you are billing $1000 a month, add CCBill as a secondary and it will pay for itself. When you are billing $10,000 a month, get a merchant account and Rocket Gate and place Epoch and CCBill in secondary and tertiary, respectively, and once again it will pay for itself.

Best of luck!

iTaboo · 05-18-2016, 10:41 AM

Thanks all

Evil Chris · 05-18-2016, 10:54 AM

Payze. See sig.

atom · 05-18-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Start with Epoch. When you are billing $1000 a month, add CCBill as a secondary and it will pay for itself. When you are billing $10,000 a month, get a merchant account and Rocket Gate and place Epoch and CCBill in secondary and tertiary, respectively, and once again it will pay for itself.

Best of luck!

exactly!!

NatalieK · 05-18-2016, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Start with Epoch. When you are billing $1000 a month, add CCBill as a secondary and it will pay for itself. When you are billing $10,000 a month, get a merchant account and Rocket Gate and place Epoch and CCBill in secondary and tertiary, respectively, and once again it will pay for itself.

Best of luck!

CCbill is free & doesn't epoch charge a set up fee?

Sly · 05-18-2016, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

CCbill is free & doesn't epoch charge a set up fee?

Neither are free. Adding a secondary will amount to an additional 10% in revenues. That 10% will pay for the costs of the secondary biller. At the $10k mark, processing fees with a merchant account will drop down to the 1-4% range instead of the 15% range with Epoch/CCBill, plus a few additional expenses from the gateway and merchant account bank, but will again pay for itself.

NatalieK · 05-18-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Neither are free. Adding a secondary will amount to an additional 10% in revenues. That 10% will pay for the costs of the secondary biller. At the $10k mark, processing fees with a merchant account will drop down to the 1-4% range instead of the 15% range with Epoch/CCBill, plus a few additional expenses from the gateway and merchant account bank, but will again pay for itself.

and tbh, before itaboo thinks of going to a billing company, they need to add a 2257 disclaimer at the bottom of every page with content on.

& need to ask the op, why's an image on his website

from a cam girl that was booted off the cam site the other day?

IrwinJones · 05-18-2016, 01:04 PM

go with Zombio all the way!

JamesAB · 05-18-2016, 01:25 PM

Getting a merchant account sounds enticing, because you may get to keep a greater slice of the pie. However, with all the hoops to jump and fees it really isn't worth it until your are well established and making well over 10k a month.

ccBill has it's pros & cons. The pros include thee fact that people might feel safer signing up because it's a trusted brand name. The cons include the fact that you might be paying a higher commission on sales and see a higher chargeback rate as opposed to a merchant account.

Chances are your merchant account is going to be labeled "high risk" from day one if you tell them it's for a porn membership website. They are going to watch you closely over the first year,making sure chargebacks less than 3% and if you aren't making them (basically VISA, MASTERCARD, ETC...) enough money to be worth it, they might drop you like a hot potato.

plaster · 05-18-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesAB

Getting a merchant account sounds enticing, because you may get to keep a greater slice of the pie. However, with all the hoops to jump and fees it really isn't worth it until your are well established and making well over 10k a month.

ccBill has it's pros & cons. The pros include thee fact that people might feel safer signing up because it's a trusted brand name. The cons include the fact that you might be paying a higher commission on sales and see a higher chargeback rate as opposed to a merchant account.

Chances are your merchant account is going to be labeled "high risk" from day one if you tell them it's for a porn membership website. They are going to watch you closely over the first year,making sure chargebacks less than 3% and if you aren't making them (basically VISA, MASTERCARD, ETC...) enough money to be worth it, they might drop you like a hot potato.

Mostly wrong.

Bladewire · 05-18-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Adding a secondary will amount to an additional 10% in revenues. That 10% will pay for the costs of the secondary biller. At the $10k mark, processing fees with a merchant account will drop down to the 1-4% range instead of the 15% range with Epoch/CCBill, plus a few additional expenses from the gateway and merchant account bank, but will again pay for itself.

That additional 10% of revenue is eaten up in your new merchant accounts 10% holdeback that caps at $10k-25k or more and is held until 6 months AFTER your merchant account is closed, never accumulating interest.

You'll have higher chargebacks on merchant accounts and NO customer service.

plaster · 05-18-2016, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

That additional 10% of revenue is eaten up in your new merchant accounts 10% holdeback that caps at $10k-25k or more and is held until 6 months AFTER your merchant account is closed, never accumulating interest.

You'll have higher chargebacks on merchant accounts and NO customer service.

Lol... mostly wrong also. Explain the higher chargebacks and no customer service. You can't higher people to answer phones and answer emails yourself? Of course you can't because that would require actual logical thinking.

nikki99 · 05-18-2016, 01:46 PM

verotel

Sly · 05-18-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

That additional 10% of revenue is eaten up in your new merchant accounts 10% holdeback that caps at $10k-25k or more and is held until 6 months AFTER your merchant account is closed, never accumulating interest.

You'll have higher chargebacks on merchant accounts and NO customer service.

It's not "eaten up," you get it back. That's 10% you are not making now sitting in an account that comes back to you after the cycle. Add to that the increased throughput due to your own scrub settings = short-term loss (set up fees,) long-term gain (significantly lower rates, increased throughput meaning more transactions, increased flexibility with upsells, the list goes on and on.)

You will not have higher chargebacks just because you are on a merchant account. That is due to not having chargeback management knowledge. Both Rocket Gate and NetBilling offer customer support packages that are a mere fraction of the cost that you would pay through the Epoch/CCBill suite.

Merchant accounts are not for everyone. They take work, trial and error, and a lot of headaches. Once you have them nailed, they are a beach house in the Caribbean.

RTP · 05-18-2016, 03:48 PM

Mobius

Carina EPGBILL · 05-19-2016, 06:40 AM

Hi, i just sent you a mail!!

Bladewire · 05-19-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

It's not "eaten up," you get it back. That's 10% you are not making now sitting in an account that comes back to you after the cycle.

It' $10k-$25k out of your liquidity gone + the yearly Visa/MC fee gone for each merchant account.

You're a good guy I know you're not out to screw anyone in any way I'm just stating things from a merchants perspective, things I wish I would have known before getting my own merchant accounts.

I really am thankful for CCBills consumer customer service. Priceless. After getting your merchant accounts and having to take all the time to deal with customer cancellations, user pass crap, refunds, etc.you quickly appreciate the service they provide.

OrbitalPay is the only other processor I know that offers consumer customer service like CCBILL included with the merchant accounts they offer. The VP @ OrbitalPay, Karen Campbell is so personable & accessible, fucking amazing

Sly · 05-19-2016, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

It' $10k-$25k out of your liquidity gone + the yearly Visa/MC fee gone for each merchant account.

You're a good guy I know you're not out to screw anyone in any way I'm just stating things from a merchants perspective, things I wish I would have known before getting my own merchant accounts.

I really am thankful for CCBills consumer customer service. Priceless. After getting your merchant accounts and having to take all the time to deal with customer cancellations, user pass crap, refunds, etc.you quickly appreciate the service they provide.

OrbitalPay is the only other processor I know that offers consumer customer service like CCBILL included with the merchant accounts they offer. The VP @ OrbitalPay, Karen Campbell is so personable & accessible, fucking amazing

I appreciate your "good guy" comment but I have all of the above and then some so I'm not talking out of my ass. Sounds like you are doing something wrong. Maybe you don't have all of the info that you should have.

Your math is straight out incorrect, as are your comments about chargebacks, as are your comments about customer support options.

Epoch/CCBill = 15%.

Merchant account = 3-5% + 10% rolling reserve that you get back.

These are not even comparable. You are not losing $10-25k liquidity because you never had that $10-25k liquidity to begin with using Epoch/CCBill at 15% overall fees. Instead, you GAIN liquidity after the reserve cycles plus increased throughput, plus increased options as far as billing additional elements (upsells, free trials, on and on.)

Not only have I done this myself multiple times but have gotten multiple friends to make the switch and now they are all making $x more than before.

One takes work, you get paid for that work with more money. The other is much much easier and much less stress, and much less money.

Bladewire · 05-19-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I appreciate your "good guy" comment but I have all of the above and then some so I'm not talking out of my ass. Sounds like you are doing something wrong. Maybe you don't have all of the info that you should have.

Your math is straight out incorrect, as are your comments about chargebacks, as are your comments about customer support options.

Epoch/CCBill = 15%.

Merchant account = 3-5% + 10% rolling reserve that you get back.

These are not even comparable. You are not losing $10-25k liquidity because you never had that $10-25k liquidity to begin with using Epoch/CCBill at 15% overall fees. Instead, you GAIN liquidity after the reserve cycles plus increased throughput, plus increased options as far as billing additional elements (upsells, free trials, on and on.)

Not only have I done this myself multiple times but have gotten multiple friends to make the switch and now they are all making $x more than before.

One takes work, you get paid for that work with more money. The other is much much easier and much less stress, and much less money.

Right on

I didn't know you were in the merchant account space offering solutions I'm sure whatever it is it's a great deal as you definitely know what you're talking about

(no sarcasm)

05-18-2016, 08:31 AM	#1
iTaboo Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 70	Credit Card Processor Needed iTaboo.com is gearing up to accept credit cards and would like to get some info on accepting credit cards for our site. Can you please email me at [email protected] with info like rates and such. We will be starting small and growing over time. Thanks __________________ A FREE BDSM Social Network for Adults with Kinky Taboos Whoever said it is better to ask for forgiveness then permission, my wife would like to talk to you!

05-18-2016, 08:43 AM	#2
NatalieK Natalie K Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Spain Posts: 18,589	CCBill is probably your best bet tbh __________________ My official site NatalieK.xxx My free porn & affiliate blog Natalie K affiliate program First time girls Skype: gspotproductions - "Converting your traffic into income since 2005"

05-18-2016, 08:53 AM	#4
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05-18-2016, 09:46 AM	#6
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,247	Start with Epoch. When you are billing $1000 a month, add CCBill as a secondary and it will pay for itself. When you are billing $10,000 a month, get a merchant account and Rocket Gate and place Epoch and CCBill in secondary and tertiary, respectively, and once again it will pay for itself. Best of luck! __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Fully Managed VPS, Daily Backups Included - Starting at $25. Contact for more info. Sell me your: Paysites and Hosting Company. Buy my: Aged Domains and Sites

05-18-2016, 10:41 AM	#7
iTaboo Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 70	Thanks all __________________ A FREE BDSM Social Network for Adults with Kinky Taboos Whoever said it is better to ask for forgiveness then permission, my wife would like to talk to you!

05-18-2016, 08:47 AM	#3
plaster So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,295	Your going to spend 1k+ with visa/mastercard fees. Then likely 15% in fees. If I had a merchant account, which I do, I'd bill for your site. Unfortunately my generosity has sailed and no longer give a shit.

05-18-2016, 08:54 AM	#5
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	Mobius Payments

05-18-2016, 10:54 AM	#8
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05-18-2016, 01:04 PM	#13
IrwinJones So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 144	go with Zombio all the way!

05-18-2016, 01:25 PM	#14
JamesAB Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 188	Getting a merchant account sounds enticing, because you may get to keep a greater slice of the pie. However, with all the hoops to jump and fees it really isn't worth it until your are well established and making well over 10k a month. ccBill has it's pros & cons. The pros include thee fact that people might feel safer signing up because it's a trusted brand name. The cons include the fact that you might be paying a higher commission on sales and see a higher chargeback rate as opposed to a merchant account. Chances are your merchant account is going to be labeled "high risk" from day one if you tell them it's for a porn membership website. They are going to watch you closely over the first year,making sure chargebacks less than 3% and if you aren't making them (basically VISA, MASTERCARD, ETC...) enough money to be worth it, they might drop you like a hot potato. __________________ He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man I tried them all in the past year. Chaturbate is the most profitable webcam site to promote

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05-19-2016, 06:40 AM	#21
Carina EPGBILL Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 7	Hi, i just sent you a mail!! __________________ Carine PERRIN Euro Payment Group Beethoven 11 1ª4º 08021 Barcelona [email protected] C: +34 672 79 80 81 skype: carineperrin74