Here's a video showing how full of shit Donald Trump is

[bronco67]

If you want other examples, just look at any video where he speaks. The guy says whatever the fuck pops into his empty head, regardless of the what he said in the past. It shows he's a either a pathological liar, or senile...both of which are pretty disconcerting.

Fact Checkers Prove That 91% of the Things Donald Trump Says Are False

[AdultKing]

Having this guy's finger on the button is a scary thought.

[noshit]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Having this guy's finger on the button is a scary thought.

Profanely Stunted Animal, THERE'S NO "BUTTON."

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[Helix]

Trump is rising as Hillary is sinking.

[plaster]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Having this guy's finger up your bottom is a scary thought.

That's how I read it...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Helix

Trump is rising as Hillary is sinking.

hillary can't put away a wild eyed socialist and a blathering loud mouth. and the system was and is rigged to anoint her the dem candidate

she's now losing the general election polls to trump as well as losing 80+% of the last dozen + primaries to Bernie.



she still has the FBI investigation hanging over her head as well as Billy's transgressions including dozens of flights on the pedophile jet, the lolita express.

[Rochard]

Trump is becoming a true politician, and the worst kind. He will say anything to please people. This video is a great example - In one video he wanted us to take out Gaddafi, in another video he tells us how horrible of an idea it was to take out Gaddafi.

Yesterday the NRA endorsed him.... Even though he has obviously flip flopped on this issue too:

In his 2000 book ?The America We Deserve,? the real estate businessman criticized Republicans who ?walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.?

NRA endorses Donald Trump | Bradenton Herald

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

hillary can't put away a wild eyed socialist and a blathering loud mouth. and the system was and is rigged to anoint her the dem candidate

she's now losing the general election polls to trump as well as losing 80+% of the last dozen + primaries to Bernie.



she still has the FBI investigation hanging over her head as well as Billy's transgressions including dozens of flights on the pedophile jet, the lolita express.

Crooked Hilary.

As for polls, I have not been following, but is it really true? Just +- 3 weeks ago few forum names were laughing at Trump chances citing polls where Hilary was crushing Trump.
I said it was too early for polls due to unusual circumstances, but even I did not believe thy would turn around so quickly.
That is why I am double checking if this was true

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Crooked Hilary.

As for polls, I have not been following, but is it really true? Just +- 3 weeks ago few forum names were laughing at Trump chances citing polls where Hilary was crushing Trump.
I said it was too early for polls due to unusual circumstances, but even I did not believe thy would turn around so quickly.
That is why I am double checking if this was true

The latest poll(s) show Trump leading Hillary in the gen election. Rasmussen is one poll showing that,I believe.

[C H R I S]

Tiny fingers.

[Jigster715]

Trump is karma for America. Enjoy the blowback.

[romeo22]

This is conspirisy for Donald

[klinton]

lol at the guys that believe in Trump (or Hillary)

[klinton]

what the fuck are you talking about ? you have 11,000 posts on this forum and its all broken english without any sense, total rubbish.

Originally Posted by romeo22

This is conspirisy for Donald

[MiamiBoyz]

[bronco67]

Does this sound like the Donald Trump who is now pandering to the NRA like a dog who wants a cookie?



He's a duplicitous piece of human garbage...not that the people who like him would care about that sort of thing anyway, because they have their own character defects. Recognizing scum is not something that comes naturally them.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Having this guy's finger on the button is a scary thought.

I have no problem with him seeing the mistakes he made in the past thinking invading foreign countries turns out for the better. It's not that there's a lack of evidence that wars in the last 60 years have ended up with the US on the losing side.

Korea. Would the US be any worse off if S. Korea had been taken over by the Kims? It would mean one less competitor to make cheap goods.

Vietnam, same as above. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and everywhere else. Even Cuba the politicians fucked up. Cubans wanted to out the corrupt rulers supported by the US. Politicians didn't like the decisions of the people, so created an enemy on their doorstep. So instead of being friends and buying goods giving Cubans a taste of wealth and the benefits of capitalism. They gave Communism a solid start.

Anyone who thinks Trump will be better than Clinton or Sanders. Is a moron, this job is way out of his ability.

[crockett]

As you notice pretty much everyone of the GFY mullet heads who support Trump, completely ignored the video and went on the blame Hillary for something..

Trump supporters = the willful ignorant.

It's the same mental condition we've dealt with already here on GFY when they were all proud Republicans and blamed everything on Obama.. It's why Conservatism is a mental disorder.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Jigster715

Trump is karma for America. Enjoy the blowback.

You're an idiot for at least 3 reasons just based on this post alone.

[Helix]

lolz

[DBS.US]

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by klinton

lol at the guys that believe in Trump (or Hillary)

+1 ...

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by klinton

lol at the guys that believe in Trump (or Hillary)

I believe Hillary is lesser of 2 evil. Whats wrong with that?
For one I don't want any change. Im doing fine the way it is. 8 years ago I heard same BS about Obama, end of the world, destruction of America. Blah-blah.-blah.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

I believe Hillary is lesser of 2 evil. Whats wrong with that?
For one I don't want any change. Im doing fine the way it is. 8 years ago I heard same BS about Obama, end of the world, destruction of America. Blah-blah.-blah.

Hillary is the same evil that Trump is, just a different side of the same coin. You can see how fucked up she is by how much she has been able to manipulate the election in so many states to cheat Sanders out of the race.

Hillary would be like electing Scott Walker, Mitt Romney or Chris Christe. Just lying fucks who can't wait to better their own position by scamming the people..

Trump is just an abortion waiting to happen..

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by crockett

As you notice pretty much everyone of the GFY mullet heads who support Trump, completely ignored the video and went on the blame Hillary for something..

i reviewed this thread in order to "fact check" you.

there is 1 observation that trump is rising while hilary falls, & a reply to that comment expounding on hilarys fall.

there was no blaming. no indication they did not watch the video. there was nothing in their comments that was refuted by the video.

in conclusion, we find that crockett made it all the fuck up.

[klinton]

Trump= Obama.
No changes at all. well, at least in foreign policies. about inside policies, no idea, probably the same. rich will stay rich (or richer ?) and poor will stay poor (probably not poorer)
all this show is for people who love to get excited if they will get poisoned by Coke or Pepsi ? but it is the same shit, different packaging.
and yeah.... Hillary= Trump, too.

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

I believe Hillary is lesser of 2 evil. Whats wrong with that?
For one I don't want any change. Im doing fine the way it is. 8 years ago I heard same BS about Obama, end of the world, destruction of America. Blah-blah.-blah.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by klinton

Trump= Obama.
No changes at all. well, at least in foreign policies. about inside policies, no idea, probably the same. rich will stay rich (or richer ?) and poor will stay poor (probably not poorer)
all this show is for people who love to get excited if they will get poisoned by Coke or Pepsi ? but it is the same shit, different packaging.
and yeah.... Hillary= Trump, too.

Well, not that I don't care about our foreign policy but ... as long as we are not next Argentina I'm fine. Leave things the way it is. I'll take law educated politician over crazy egomaniac.

[The Porn Nerd]

Donald Trump is what we used to call in high school a "bullshitter".

[klinton]

sure, he looks like a classic one....And Hillary is who ? goldenmouth ?
its the same shit.
they will be in pockets of military industrial complex and big corporations.. that way or another......and they will make good for their buddies and families. but will they do something good for the "so called country, people and environment" ? I don't think so.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Donald Trump is what we used to call in high school a "bullshitter".

[Helix]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

i reviewed this thread in order to "fact check" you.

there is 1 observation that trump is rising while hilary falls, & a reply to that comment expounding on hilarys fall.

there was no blaming. no indication they did not watch the video. there was nothing in their comments that was refuted by the video.

in conclusion, we find that crockett made it all the fuck up.

lol...Crockett is too emotional with politics imo. He gets all caught up in the "team play" mentality and doesn't think in a rational, fact based manner.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Helix

lol...Crockett is too emotional with politics imo. He gets all caught up in the "team play" mentality and doesn't think in a rational, fact based manner.

Funny you are pointing your finger at me, while talking to a crazy fuck that starts Hillary touched my pee pee topics daily.. No idea who you are, but if you think he is "normal" you must be a nutter too..

Hello nutter..

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

For one I don't want any change. Im doing fine the way it is.

So am I... I sure as fuck feel for those that aren't though, and when I see them struggle daily I thank my lucky stars I'm blessed with the means to not have to rely on the government for any damn thing at all, and that I do ok in spite of, not thanks to, those cunts. Not everyone is born with a decent brain/mind, and for every one person that makes it out of the ghetto or trailer park or council sink estate, there are thousands and thousands who don't, and for who the odds are stacked against them higher than some of us had them. That's without getting into war vets, the disabled, the mentally ill, those hooked on prescription drugs because of doctors far too willing to dole out meds instead of real core treatment, and no doubt a bunch of other groups I can't think of off the top of my head. And don't get me started on the involuntarily homeless, that's a fucking crime in 2016 in 1st world countries.

And I'm just supposed to say fuck you to those less fortunate than myself? I'll say fuck you to lazy bums who don't want to help themselves, but a person is deluded if they think everyone in either the US or UK has an equal opportunity - not that there's anything 'wrong' with that per se... life isn't fair, tough shit - but I see many good friends struggle because whatever they do, the gov't wants to keep them down, and in the rat race, seemingly oblivious to the bloated overspending they do in the process.

In one way: well so what, there's too many people on the planet anyway, but the greater feeling I have is: why should the bloated, out-of-touch politicians continue to do the same old same old... just because I have sorta succeeded in spite of them? To just say fuck everyone else because I'm ok... I dunno man, as much as I am a capitalist, and most definitly not some bleeding heart leftie, I just can't do that

I've been homeless, a junkie, an alcoholic, and in jail - yes I pulled myself out of all of those, and these days am a (hopefully) productive member of society... that was mostly luck rather than judgement, so I'm very careful not to fall into pulling the ladder up and saying I'm alright Jack. How anyone with any kind of conscience, or hell even in fucking business, can think that things are 'fine' beggars belief... they may be doing ok, they may be doing well, they may be doing fucking fantastic, but to see no problem with the governmental system and the status quo is myopic to say the least.

[klinton]

tell me more about it.
is this why most of EU citizens working online prefer to setup their company in UK, Ireland, Cyprus or whatever....and not, lets say in France or Spain ?
I dont see how your government "keeps people down" (well, except mass surveillance and no-privacy-at-all policy) if the tax free salary in your country is 1200 euros/ month.......

Originally Posted by Jel

but I see many good friends struggle because whatever they do, the gov't wants to keep them down,

[klinton]

I recently watched American Beauty and... Hillary Clinton reminds me so much that c..nt that was the guy's wife... greedy, emotionless c...nt after 45

[AllAboutCams]

I really hope he gets in it going to be some bloody awesome tv for the next couple of years.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by klinton

tell me more about it.
is this why most of EU citizens working online prefer to setup their company in UK, Ireland, Cyprus or whatever....and not, lets say in France or Spain ?
I dont see how your government "keeps people down" (well, except mass surveillance and no-privacy-at-all policy) if the tax free salary in your country is 1200 euros/ month.......

you've obviously never lived in the UK if you think 1200? (~£900) a month is anything you can do much past survive on. Plus it's not just about what you can earn 'tax free' - there are MANY other issues a couple of which I already mentioned. How about those who live in social housing at eg £100 a week rent + council tax... they fall ill at work, through an accident in the workplace... 3 weeks later the employment sick pay runs out, and the state-based sick-pay is £85 a week... out of which you need to pay your £100 a week rent, your council tax, buy your food, pay your utility bills. That amazing £900 'tax free' a month (which is the tax threshold, not the minimum wage) that you use for your rent, food, utility bills, petrol to travel to-from work, monthly car insurance/tax doesn't leave much to put into savings for such instances, and you find yourselves getting evicted... this exact scenario is happening to someone I know, who has worked various jobs since age 16, right up until now at age 45 - far from any kind of leech on society.

Merely anecdotal of course, but there's literally millions of people with a similar one, caught up in a catch-22 situation... many are just lazy, but most are not, and don't know where to start to get out of the poverty trap. It's fucking disgraceful in 2016. As I said, I'm a capatalist by nature, considered a conservative if people were to label my views, and believe everyone has the choice to better themselves - problem is, the vast majority of those don't *know* they have a choice, because for one thing the education system is so fucked. Add in a thousand other instances of gov't interference and fuck ups, and that's what keeps people down - I don't mean they intentionally do, like some sinister lets-fuck-with-these-guys way, but through incompetence, being out of touch with reality, thinking they know what's best for everyone, and managing to dumb down the whole of society accordingly during the course of recent history.

That people don't know, or don't care, or plain can't see the rest of the population (let's not forget, those of us at this board actually in business make up a tiny %age of the population in UK/USA) are finally getting angry enough is to be laughed at? Derided?

As I said, I'm by no means a lib leftie, far from it, I'm just not also a self-centered dick (that's not aimed at you personally by the way haha) oblivious to everything that is wrong, just because I personally am doing kind of ok at the moment.

Whether anyone agrees with all that I wrote is moot really, because the point I was addressing is a person is fucking nuts if they think the state of things as they are is 'fine', based on their personal income/situation - fuck me how insular do you have to be, to have and believe that point of view. The sheer fucking wastefulness in bureaucracy of govt's alone using YOUR tax dollars should be enough to make any intelligent person weep, throw in shit like the WMD lie, just as a single example - and things are 'fine' - l o f l

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Jel

So am I... I sure as fuck feel for those that aren't though, and when I see them struggle daily I thank my lucky stars I'm blessed with the means to not have to rely on the government for any damn thing at all, and that I do ok in spite of, not thanks to, those cunts. Not everyone is born with a decent brain/mind, and for every one person that makes it out of the ghetto or trailer park or council sink estate, there are thousands and thousands who don't, and for who the odds are stacked against them higher than some of us had them. That's without getting into war vets, the disabled, the mentally ill, those hooked on prescription drugs because of doctors far too willing to dole out meds instead of real core treatment, and no doubt a bunch of other groups I can't think of off the top of my head. And don't get me started on the involuntarily homeless, that's a fucking crime in 2016 in 1st world countries.

And I'm just supposed to say fuck you to those less fortunate than myself? I'll say fuck you to lazy bums who don't want to help themselves, but a person is deluded if they think everyone in either the US or UK has an equal opportunity - not that there's anything 'wrong' with that per se... life isn't fair, tough shit - but I see many good friends struggle because whatever they do, the gov't wants to keep them down, and in the rat race, seemingly oblivious to the bloated overspending they do in the process.

In one way: well so what, there's too many people on the planet anyway, but the greater feeling I have is: why should the bloated, out-of-touch politicians continue to do the same old same old... just because I have sorta succeeded in spite of them? To just say fuck everyone else because I'm ok... I dunno man, as much as I am a capitalist, and most definitly not some bleeding heart leftie, I just can't do that

I've been homeless, a junkie, an alcoholic, and in jail - yes I pulled myself out of all of those, and these days am a (hopefully) productive member of society... that was mostly luck rather than judgement, so I'm very careful not to fall into pulling the ladder up and saying I'm alright Jack. How anyone with any kind of conscience, or hell even in fucking business, can think that things are 'fine' beggars belief... they may be doing ok, they may be doing well, they may be doing fucking fantastic, but to see no problem with the governmental system and the status quo is myopic to say the least.

The long list of less fortunate will always be there regardless of who is in charge. There is only so much we can do

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

The long list of less fortunate will always be there regardless of who is in charge. There is only so much we can do

And this is why the same old 2 parties do the same old same old... good on the less fortunate for saying 'fuck you we've had enough', leaving the brainwashed idiots to scream 'how the fuck did a cunt like trump win' or whomever eventually does get in somewhere down the line.

[klinton]

Hey, I see what you posted.
But I said "people working online".
By that I mean having company in UK and living off that 1000 pounds/ month somewhere nice like Portugal, Spain, Thailand or whatever.
who in his right mind would like to live in UK ? hehhhhhhh...........

Originally Posted by Jel

you've obviously never lived in the UK if you think 1200€ (~£900) a month is anything you can do much past survive on. Plus it's not just about what you can earn 'tax free' - there are MANY other issues a couple of which I already mentioned. How about those who live in social housing at eg £100 a week rent + council tax... they fall ill at work, through an accident in the workplace... 3 weeks later the employment sick pay runs out, and the state-based sick-pay is £85 a week... out of which you need to pay your £100 a week rent, your council tax, buy your food, pay your utility bills. That amazing £900 'tax free' a month (which is the tax threshold, not the minimum wage) that you use for your rent, food, utility bills, petrol to travel to-from work, monthly car insurance/tax doesn't leave much to put into savings for such instances, and you find yourselves getting evicted... this exact scenario is happening to someone I know, who has worked various jobs since age 16, right up until now at age 45 - far from any kind of leech on society.

Merely anecdotal of course, but there's literally millions of people with a similar one, caught up in a catch-22 situation... many are just lazy, but most are not, and don't know where to start to get out of the poverty trap. It's fucking disgraceful in 2016. As I said, I'm a capatalist by nature, considered a conservative if people were to label my views, and believe everyone has the choice to better themselves - problem is, the vast majority of those don't *know* they have a choice, because for one thing the education system is so fucked. Add in a thousand other instances of gov't interference and fuck ups, and that's what keeps people down - I don't mean they intentionally do, like some sinister lets-fuck-with-these-guys way, but through incompetence, being out of touch with reality, thinking they know what's best for everyone, and managing to dumb down the whole of society accordingly during the course of recent history.

That people don't know, or don't care, or plain can't see the rest of the population (let's not forget, those of us at this board actually in business make up a tiny %age of the population in UK/USA) are finally getting angry enough is to be laughed at? Derided?

As I said, I'm by no means a lib leftie, far from it, I'm just not also a self-centered dick (that's not aimed at you personally by the way haha) oblivious to everything that is wrong, just because I personally am doing kind of ok at the moment.

Whether anyone agrees with all that I wrote is moot really, because the point I was addressing is a person is fucking nuts if they think the state of things as they are is 'fine', based on their personal income/situation - fuck me how insular do you have to be, to have and believe that point of view. The sheer fucking wastefulness in bureaucracy of govt's alone using YOUR tax dollars should be enough to make any intelligent person weep, throw in shit like the WMD lie, just as a single example - and things are 'fine' - l o f l

[klinton]

btw. talking more about UK - I heard from some older British people that I met some time ago that basically in UK social welfare is so advanced that if you are bum and alcoholic - but "smart" bum and alcoholic you can rip estate for something like 800 pounds every month, which will basically be spent on... your drinking !

this is what I heard about british social welfare. I heard also that its so advanced that some less demanding nations outside of Europe basically live off it, having children, sucking benefits for all thats possible and so on.

dont know if its 100 % true or no, but probably there is a grain of true in it.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by klinton

Hey, I see what you posted.
But I said "people working online".
By that I mean having company in UK and living off that 1000 pounds/ month somewhere nice like Portugal, Spain, Thailand or whatever.
who in his right mind would like to live in UK ? hehhhhhhh...........

fuck, I'm such a blind cunt sometimes

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Jel

And this is why the same old 2 parties do the same old same old... good on the less fortunate for saying 'fuck you we've had enough', leaving the brainwashed idiots to scream 'how the fuck did a cunt like trump win' or whomever eventually does get in somewhere down the line.

Right, am I supposed to feel bad for all those Sanders debt forgiveness hippies who spent 8 years in college getting their 18th century literature or pottery design degrees? Fuck that, let them squeal.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by klinton

btw. talking more about UK - I heard from some older British people that I met some time ago that basically in UK social welfare is so advanced that if you are bum and alcoholic - but "smart" bum and alcoholic you can rip estate for something like 800 pounds every month, which will basically be spent on... your drinking !

this is what I heard about british social welfare. I heard also that its so advanced that some less demanding nations outside of Europe basically live off it, having children, sucking benefits for all thats possible and so on.

dont know if its 100 % true or no, but probably there is a grain of true in it.

yeah that's not far off the mark... it's pretty fucked up. Ofc not everyone is like that, but.. the whole thing is screaming out for change... back to my original point.. I'm ok but many aren't, and while I don't actually vote, or (believe it or not) really get involved much in politics (I enjoy reading the threads to pass time between tasks though), I just cannot wrap my head around "I'm fine, so it must be working great" mentality.

Something will give, whether it's trump getting in in the usa, the far right getting in in the UK, or a shit ton of discontent rioting... aside from the usual conspiracy theories and associated whackos, more people are realising how corrupt and old-boy-network, money wins politics, shady deals, ridiculous law-making, bureacrocy for the sake of it to make sure those jobs are created, and all the rest of the shit... millions/billions/trillions of taxpayer dollars out of workers' pockets... obviously it's always gone on to some extent, but there comes a point where it's too much of a piss-take.

Anyway, typed far too much in this thread, about 3 months worth of text so far lol. No easy answers, and at the end of the day, reality is I'll be looking out for me and mine above everyone else

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Right, am I supposed to feel bad for all those Sanders debt forgiveness hippies who spent 8 years in college getting their 18th century literature or pottery design degrees? Fuck that, let them squeal.

Nope, and nor do I, but you're a fucking idiot if you think those are the ones I'm talking about. Oh wait, you've proved you're a fucking idiot since you started posting here.

Fucking dense cunt, *that*s what you got from reading my posts? Jesus christ...

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Jel

.... the whole thing is screaming out for change...

Why?

We do this every four years - demand change. It's like clock work.

Why do we need change? We have removed ourselves from two never ending wars, unemployment is 2001 levels, the economy is moving in the right direction, and the only real threat to the United States (ISIS) is being reduced and has lost a lot of territory in the past year - without US boots on the ground. Seriously, WTF do we need change for?

It's the Republicans right now who are shouting the loudest - They say such nonsense like "Our country is fucked up". Really? Yes, we need change. We need to go back to the way it was, when unemployment was 12%, people were loosing their jobs and their houses, gas was $5 a gallon, and we were loosing thousands of American lives in foreign countries that no one really gives a rat's ass about. Yes, we need change. We need to back to 2008.

What kind of a change do we need? Do we want unemployment to go back up? Do we want people to lose their jobs, and their houses? Do we want to go back to more needless wars?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Right, am I supposed to feel bad for all those Sanders debt forgiveness hippies who spent 8 years in college getting their 18th century literature or pottery design degrees? Fuck that, let them squeal.

There is a whole generation, maybe even 2 or 3 generations, that have been spoonfed the idea of "go to college and life will be great." Somewhere along the line they forgot the whole part about "learning marketable skills" and instead of becoming GOOD at something, they spent 5 (not 4) years pulling out as much money in loans as possible with no fiscal responsibility clinging on to the "American Dream" (this is not the real American Dream) with their fingers crossed that someday they will get a good paying job and their financial irresponsibilities will go flying out the fairytale window.

Sue me for having little sympathy.

Everyone is not meant for college. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not going to college. It doesn't mean you're stupid, it doesn't mean you're not useful to society, it does not mean you are a loser.

The minute society allows this fact to settle in and take hold, fewer unqualified people will go to college, college will be cheaper for the qualified people and they will then get an even better education. Will this cause an educational and societal gap because the smart will be getting smarter and the "dumb" will be staying the same? We already have that gap, why continue stuffing this ideological dream down kids throats and instead finally get over this wave of mediocrity we have somehow deemed acceptable by bolstering our strengths and minimizing our weaknesses.

[klinton]

if you complain about burreuacracy and tax system in UK, I guess that you never been to Spain, France or Poland....basically over there they will rob you of 50 % what you earn that way or another...
and burreaucracy in Spain ? god damn...you should see it...
but the plus is that overall it is great, beautiful country with really nice people and good food
speaking about Elites...

I wonder what David Cameron meant here when he told that Nigeria and Afghanistan are "fantastically" corrupt countries... heh, Im not native English speaker, but...does it mean that it is fantastically easy to corrupt them and get their resources ?

Originally Posted by Jel

Something will give, whether it's trump getting in in the usa, the far right getting in in the UK, or a shit ton of discontent rioting... aside from the usual conspiracy theories and associated whackos, more people are realising how corrupt and old-boy-network, money wins politics, shady deals, ridiculous law-making, bureacrocy for the sake of it to make sure those jobs are created, and all the rest of the shit...

[Jel]

Originally Posted by klinton

if you complain about burreuacracy and tax system in UK, I guess that you never been to Spain, France or Poland....basically over there they will rob you of 50 % what you earn that way or another...
and burreaucracy in Spain ? god damn...you should see it...
but the plus is that overall it is great, beautiful country with really nice people and good food
speaking about Elites...

I wonder what David Cameron meant here when he told that Nigeria and Afghanistan are "fantastically" corrupt countries... heh, Im not native English speaker, but...does it mean that it is fantastically easy to corrupt them and get their resources ?

I have no idea on those countries so don't comment... and anyway, because some ELSE is doing things wrong, that doesn't mean I should too, and escape criticism.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Sly

There is a whole generation, maybe even 2 or 3 generations, that have been spoonfed the idea of "go to college and life will be great." Somewhere along the line they forgot the whole part about "learning marketable skills" and instead of becoming GOOD at something, they spent 5 (not 4) years pulling out as much money in loans as possible with no fiscal responsibility clinging on to the "American Dream" (this is not the real American Dream) with their fingers crossed that someday they will get a good paying job and their financial irresponsibilities will go flying out the fairytale window.

Sue me for having little sympathy.

Everyone is not meant for college. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not going to college. It doesn't mean you're stupid, it doesn't mean you're not useful to society, it does not mean you are a loser.

The minute society allows this fact to settle in and take hold, fewer unqualified people will go to college, college will be cheaper for the qualified people and they will then get an even better education. Will this cause an educational and societal gap because the smart will be getting smarter and the "dumb" will be staying the same? We already have that gap, why continue stuffing this ideological dream down kids throats and instead finally get over this wave of mediocrity we have somehow deemed acceptable by bolstering our strengths and minimizing our weaknesses.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why?

We do this every four years - demand change. It's like clock work.

Why do we need change? We have removed ourselves from two never ending wars, unemployment is 2001 levels, the economy is moving in the right direction, and the only real threat to the United States (ISIS) is being reduced and has lost a lot of territory in the past year - without US boots on the ground. Seriously, WTF do we need change for?

It's the Republicans right now who are shouting the loudest - They say such nonsense like "Our country is fucked up". Really? Yes, we need change. We need to go back to the way it was, when unemployment was 12%, people were loosing their jobs and their houses, gas was $5 a gallon, and we were loosing thousands of American lives in foreign countries that no one really gives a rat's ass about. Yes, we need change. We need to back to 2008.

What kind of a change do we need? Do we want unemployment to go back up? Do we want people to lose their jobs, and their houses? Do we want to go back to more needless wars?

the bubble you live in must be great, sometimes I actually envy you for living in it.

ps I skype'd you about something the other day, have a look when you can