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Old 06-24-2016, 06:30 PM   #151
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:31 PM   #152
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Save your keystrokes. 29% isn't "France". Thats all I was trying to say. Hi title said "France, Denmark and blah blah blah"...
i see your struggling to convey a point in your native language, english. maybe you should try out some ebonics it might take better to your limited mental skills.

i mean, your a liberal, & a flaming racist. usually the liberal racists hate white males. your so dumb you dont even realize your own ideology hates you, honkey.

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a lot of whats happening in 2016 comes back to the USA, & europes, decision to appease evil in the syria civil war 2011. we saw what happened in the 1930s, when european & american democrats appeased evil.

just more of the same. the average joe is going isolationist because the lib-tard globalists fumbled the ball on security. NATO is still amassing troops to hold back the soviet union, for crying out loud. meanwhile innocents all over are getting wantonly murdered while obama & cameron draw peace symbols in the sand.

disgraceful.
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:52 PM   #154
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Say what you like about British food but we weren't the ones who invented this...

I think I used that shit once in my life. Can't remember, ti was at someone else's house party.
But fuck, I never ate anything more disgusting than lamb chop in London. And it was very expensive place not too far from Buckingham palace.
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:58 PM   #155
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i see your struggling to convey a point in your native language, english. maybe you should try out some ebonics it might take better to your limited mental skills.

i mean, your a liberal, & a flaming racist. usually the liberal racists hate white males. your so dumb you dont even realize your own ideology hates you, honkey.

Hang on there my mental patient. Let me get my e-feelings out my flash drive so I can pretend I'm so upset at you
Im what I am. I don't need to fit in.. Im Johny Fucking Cash and you're some Michael W Smith wanna be.
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Hang on there my mental patient. Let me get my e-feelings out my flash drive so I can pretend I'm so upset at you
Im what I am. I don't need to fit in.. Im Johny Fucking Cash and you're some Michael W Smith wanna be.
more like homie the clown than jon cash.



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The EU is running scared that more Europeans will demand a vote. So unless the establishment hit the UK hard, which will hit Europeans. The EU is dead.

Then we go back to a trade deals and a few other parts.
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It is not about the exception. Random 10.000 Bulgarians or random 10.000 Africans.
It is obvious that random Bulgarians would be more skillful than random Africans.
Skilled people should always be welcome. The notion of random is the problem.
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I hear that real British people do not want to do those jobs that unskilled people from other countries do.
Can you detail what these jobs are that Brits don't want to do?
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Lets make it clear - Trump is against ILLEGAL ( = criminals breaking US laws) immigration. Like any sane person would be. If you (like Hitlery) are for illegal immigration, you are a traitor (because by definition you welcome illegal invader who is breaking your country's laws).

As for me - I am anti globalist, I like when people live in their own countries, dislike all migrants, especially the economical types. But that is MY position, not Trump's who is FOR immigration, except ILLEGAL ( = crime) immigration.
The EU took out the illegal part. They made it legal for anyone to move and get the same benefits, as natives.
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more like homie the clown than jon cash.



Still on top. Keep hating, boi...
I think you racist..
I'm stil Johny Cash and you are the back singer for Boy George,,, lol...
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They are easily manipulated though. Leeds (where Jo Cox was murdered) voted remain, while most of the surrounding areas voted leave.

While I'm pleased with the result, I do wonder if many of the white working class actually know much about the EU. They simplified it down to immigration, because they know more about it than they do about the economy.
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No that's not what I meant. The young who voted remain because "peace love and unicorns" were no better informed.

My point is that a lot of people voted on gut instinct rather than information. But maybe that's the way things are going, and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
They voted on the facts. The facts of their life, past and future. Their living standards dropping, wages dropping or stagnant, jobs getting harder to find, decent jobs with a decent wage a dream for many, pressure on the NHS, Education, Social Services, Housing is a catastrophe and with all the great benefits of the EU. Their lives are getting worse.

This is the facts. Decent jobs are getting rarer as we move towards automation and export jobs to Eastern Europe and the Third World. Low skilled jobs are all that's left for many. And more low skilled people are arriving every day.

The EU tried to make the UK pay for the Euro fuck up. It wants the UK to take more migrants from the ME. It will be getting more from the EU as that migration crisis worsens.

As for the Young voting in. How many 18 to 25 years old will ever be able to buy their own home or be able to afford a to rent one without benefits? The rest will be handing over a huge chunk of their income to landlords.

They voted on "What has the EU done for US? Because it's crystal clear what it's done for the 5%.
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So this is the issue of raising minimal wage because it is too low to even afford your own single family place? Or is it just an excuse for those who live in estates and get benefits?
Do you know how much people have to earn to afford a home in the UK?
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taking care of the old and/or retarded is just one of them
Very good point. The IN camp has gone on relentessly about the people needed to care for the elderly and infirm. As if they have to come from abroad. Fact is Brits will do it, just want more money. Stil it's easy enough to give visas to people with the skills required to do te job.

The problem with mass uncontrolled migration is that in 10 years the 55-year-olds who came over, will be retired and need looking after, in 20 it will be the 45-year-olds, in 30 ............. I'm sure you get the message.

Of course, the present EU rules make it possible for 80-year-olds to come over and get cared for in the country of their choice. And all the children and families a worker brings with them. Whatever the income of the family.

How many would vote for a President who wanted to legalise free movement from Mexico? That's effectively what the EU has done.
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The EU, not European citizens, are in panic mode over what this vote will do. Junker is screaming negotiations have to start now, it won't be an amicable divorce. The French politicians are threatening to put illegal migrants onto boats and trains. The UK has had its credit rating downgraded.

The Three Es are in shock. Establishment, Elite, Experts. Because this will trigger other Europeans to demand their right to vote. And that's the end of this failed experiment. Because most Europeans are sick of being ruled by idiots. Who are unable to get the major decisions right.

Take these as an indicator and compare it with the actual UK vote.


The Eurosceptic Union | The Economist


https://www.statista.com/chart/2293/...ic-earthquake/

So far it's only been the Far Right who offered an alternative to rule from Brussels. The UK vote proves that 28% is in fact 52% when asked for a straight In or OUT decision. The EU knows that if France, Denmark, Austria, Italy, Netherlands, and others. Get to vote it's all over for them.

S4B wants the EU to be dominant and rule supreme. That will mean him paying off part of the debt countries like Greece are in. It will mean Holland being a bigger giver to fund those who need subsidising. Holland having to take more ME immigrants than Dutch people want. Because people like Junker and him, think it's the best way out of the mess they created.
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Can you detail what these jobs are that Brits don't want to do?
Cleaning jobs, washing dishes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead-end_job
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I'm pretty sure that British families will be really happy to pay 20 GBP/ hour service of their grandpas or whatever....because only you said so ;-)
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As if they have to come from abroad. Fact is Brits will do it, just want more money. Stil it's easy enough to give visas to people with the skills required to do te job.
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As for the Young voting in. How many 18 to 25 years old will ever be able to buy their own home or be able to afford a to rent one without benefits? The rest will be handing over a huge chunk of their income to landlords.

They voted on "What has the EU done for US? Because it's crystal clear what it's done for the 5%.
EU has nothing to do with with the pressure on UK's housing market. That market is being manipulated. Thank those British suit wearing motherfuckers for that...

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Do you know how much people have to earn to afford a home in the UK?
So you want to raise minimum wage to fix that problem?
Yes those market manipulators would be very happy with that...
They will simply make a lot of more money.

So what basically is happening today is that the populus blames EU for about everything that is wrong in their life:1orgl augh
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Both jobs that are being eliminated by machines.
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EU has nothing to do with with the pressure on UK's housing market. That market is being manipulated. Thank those British suit wearing motherfuckers for that...
Not sure where you get this from.

We are having to plan entire new CITIES to accomodate the extra population that comes here under the freedom of movement rule. A whole new CITY being built at Ebbsfleet in Kent. Another whole new CITY planned near Bicester in Oxfordshire.
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I'm pretty sure that British families will be really happy to pay 20 GBP/ hour service of their grandpas or whatever....because only you said so ;-)
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Because of lower wages, unemployment, high rents. Most can't afford that. Add to it the compound factor of even lower wages, more unemployment and even higher rents. And no one can afford it.
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EU has nothing to do with with the pressure on UK's housing market. That market is being manipulated. Thank those British suit wearing motherfuckers for that...
In the last 6 years the UK population has increased by 1.8 million. At 4 to a house that's 450,000 extra houses required. The Government can't afford it and dare not raise the taxes enough to afford it.

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So you want to raise minimum wage to fix that problem?
Yes those market manipulators would be very happy with that...
They will simply make a lot of more money.
Raising the minimum wage would mean the Government having to give less in benefits to those on the minimum wage. You really need to learn what you're posting about.

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Not everything, just the part they're responsible for, in the drop of the living standards. Or are you saying the EU had had no effect on people's incomes?

If so you need to butt out before looking even more clueless.

Ans there's the crunch. Most Brits are poorer now than they were 10 years ago and it's showing every sign of continuing. In fact, 90% of the clowns who are responsible, are for the EU.
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Not sure where you get this from.

We are having to plan entire new CITIES to accomodate the extra population that comes here under the freedom of movement rule. A whole new CITY being built at Ebbsfleet in Kent. Another whole new CITY planned near Bicester in Oxfordshire.
Normally... a free market fix those issues before it starts being a problem... In Britain... uh sorry in England it will not even be fixed after it became a problem.
It means your housing market is being manipulated.

Let's not pretend that housing prices were normal let's say before freedom of movement.
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Not sure where you get this from.

We are having to plan entire new CITIES to accomodate the extra population that comes here under the freedom of movement rule. A whole new CITY being built at Ebbsfleet in Kent. Another whole new CITY planned near Bicester in Oxfordshire.
Tell him exactly how many houses that is. And how the UK will pay for it. Because with the squeeze on wages, the tenants will struggle to pay for them. Maybe the EU should pay for the new houses to house EU migrants. It was their idea that free movement is great.

And there's the problem. If a person from a country with a very low level of benefits and like Czech a low standard of living. Moves to the UK and requires Government services/benefits in any way. The UK pays. If it was down to the country where that person had been contributing to tax revenues were forced to pay. Free movement would be a very different system.

I came here and was entitled to nothing. My Brother in law lives in N. London and is on benefits, employed and still requires benefits.
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In the last 6 years the UK population has increased by 1.8 million. At 4 to a house that's 450,000 extra houses required. The Government can't afford it and dare not raise the taxes enough to afford it.
Uk is a communist country? FREE MARKET should have fixed it... If it didn't your market is being manipulated.

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Raising the minimum wage would mean the Government having to give less in benefits to those on the minimum wage. You really need to learn what you're posting about.
What has that to do with youngsters being able or not being able to buy a house?
You were saying that minimum wage would raise more people could buy a house?
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Not everything, just the part they're responsible for, in the drop of the living standards. Or are you saying the EU had had no effect on people's incomes?

If so you need to butt out before looking even more clueless.

Ans there's the crunch. Most Brits are poorer now than they were 10 years ago and it's showing every sign of continuing. In fact, 90% of the clowns who are responsible, are for the EU.
And who are you going to blame for the other part? Next Britain is going to vote to leave the North-Sea?
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Tell him exactly how many houses that is. And how the UK will pay for it. Because with the squeeze on wages, the tenants will struggle to pay for them.
If there would be no shortage of houses tenants wouldn't have to struggle to pay for them.
Shortage raises prices... In other words... your housing market is being manipulated...
Why should they build more and earn less rent???
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If there would be no shortage of houses tenants wouldn't have to struggle to pay for them.
Shortage raises prices... In other words... your housing market is being manipulated...
Why should they build more and earn less rent???
Who will pay for the extra houses to be built?
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The welfare state is a big part of British family life, with 20.3 million families receiving some kind of benefit (64% of all families), about 8.7 million of them pensioners. For 9.6 million families, benefits make up more than half of their income (30% of all families), around 5.3 million of them pensioners. The number of families receiving benefits will be between 1 and 2 million fewer now because of changes to child tax credits that mean some working families who previously got a small amount now get nothing.
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1. In-work benefits for the low paid are generous in the UK compared to other countries in the EU15 and may act as a much stronger pull factor towards Britain than to other member states.
In work benefits enables companies to employ people on low wages and pass the cost onto the taxpayer. some of the worse low payers are those who bank overseas in tax havens.

The problem is with the great economic benefits of the EU.



Forget the Bank crash, that was 8 years ago and they're doing fine. The problem is George Osbourne isn't able to cut enough to balance the books while mass migration continues.

And you think he should building houses for people who can't afford to pay for them.

This is why so many voted out and will take the short hit to get their standard of living back up again.
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Who will pay for the extra houses to be built?
The free market... but unfortunately they profit from shortage... so... fucked...
All i was saying don't blame the EU for that... blame those who are responsible...


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Forget the Bank crash, that was 8 years ago and they're doing fine. The problem is George Osbourne isn't able to cut enough to balance the books while mass migration continues.

And you think he should building houses for people who can't afford to pay for them.

This is why so many voted out and will take the short hit to get their standard of living back up again.
People can't afford to pay for houses because there are too little of them. Building houses is the only way to make houses affordable again...

Like i said you can stop all migration and kick everyone out; you can make the best trading deals possible... You can leave the EU... it won't help at all... Default is inevetable...
We are all in a debt-trap...
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If there would be no shortage of houses tenants wouldn't have to struggle to pay for them.
Shortage raises prices... In other words... your housing market is being manipulated...
Why should they build more and earn less rent???
you really do not know what you are talking about and just repeating yourself just makes you look foolish.
The correct answer has been posted a couple of times by more than one person but you just spout the EU line - which is, of cause, why we voted out.

sorry you don't like it but the British have never felt or consider themselves European.
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:28 AM   #183
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Both jobs that are being eliminated by machines.
That is 100% besides the point in speaking about hundreds or thousands or even millions of jobs STILL being available and done mostly by migrants due to the fact that these jobs are "too low" for real Britons.
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Normally... a free market fix those issues before it starts being a problem... In Britain... uh sorry in England it will not even be fixed after it became a problem.
It means your housing market is being manipulated.

Let's not pretend that housing prices were normal let's say before freedom of movement.
You're not getting it. To keep up with demand, we would have to build half a million homes a year. Twice as many as in the whole of Sunderland, let's say - the city in England that set the tone for the referendum when it declared its result early on Friday morning.

Not just once, but EVERY YEAR.

We can't build houses that fast. There just isn't the land available. We would have to build them on open fields, turning the countryside of England into urban concrete. Neither is there the money available. To get them built, money has to be borrowed, whether it's government money or private - putting the country further into debt which we are trying to get out of.

It's not just houses but schools and hospitals, roads and railways. It just can't be done as fast as the population is growing. It's too simplistic to say it can be solved by a free market. Things have to be planned and coordinated. We are building more infrastructure but we can't do it quickly enough for all the people who want to come here.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:18 AM   #186
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you really do not know what you are talking about and just repeating yourself just makes you look foolish.
The correct answer has been posted a couple of times by more than one person but you just spout the EU line - which is, of cause, why we voted out.

sorry you don't like it but the British have never felt or consider themselves European.
If you think that I spout the EU line you clearly haven't read what I wrote...
Ofcourse I look foolish... I clearly was born a hundred years too early...
Grow some ears first to hear what i said.
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You're not getting it. To keep up with demand, we would have to build half a million homes a year. Twice as many as in the whole of Sunderland, let's say - the city in England that set the tone for the referendum when it declared its result early on Friday morning.

Not just once, but EVERY YEAR.

We can't build houses that fast. There just isn't the land available. We would have to build them on open fields, turning the countryside of England into urban concrete. Neither is there the money available. To get them built, money has to be borrowed, whether it's government money or private - putting the country further into debt which we are trying to get out of.

It's not just houses but schools and hospitals, roads and railways. It just can't be done as fast as the population is growing. It's too simplistic to say it can be solved by a free market. Things have to be planned and coordinated. We are building more infrastructure but we can't do it quickly enough for all the people who want to come here.
Your housing problem isn't here since freedom of movement... Should have start building houses 20 years ago

You bet private investers won't invest in building houses in the UK. What are you talking about? Borrowing money to build houses? Do you know how many private investers are looking to go somewhere with their money? Try to figure out why they aren't doing that...

Yeah yeah... "we have no land available" Go look at google maps... Land enough!

The welfare-state is a non-sustainable model... whether you're in or out the EU...
All i'm saying is is that a brexit won't save your country...

I couldn't care less about a brexit. Eu-project allready failed. I allready said that it can't be done half-way... Europe would have needed a dictator to accomplish that.
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Your housing problem isn't here since freedom of movement... Should have start building houses 20 years ago
So that's your argument? The extra half a million or so increase in our population each year isn't causing huge pressure on our housing and other infrastructure because......we should have built more houses 20 years ago?
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They simplified it down to immigration, because they know more about it than they do about the economy.
exactly this

Most voted to leave, because "then immigrants can't get into the country"

I've seen the petition for a second vote, as at least half of the voters would be voting for in, that voted out...

I wonder how long this is going to keep bouncing back & forth, & even then, it's still government decision, no country would do as all the people want because there's just too many stupid people in the world.

Wondering when Scotland are going to leave tiny Britain, as they haven't held out to the "Stay in the EU" that Scotland was promised at their last referendum?
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I've seen the petition for a second vote, as at least half of the voters would be voting for in, that voted out...
No, they would not. Moron
Where do you even get nonsense like that (oh I forgot, it was some kind of tv, probably bremainer backed, reportage where they showed few "changing mind" people which of course made your little brain to conclude that millions of them changed their mind overnight), not to mention that even considering this might be true makes you a complete moron, let alone actually believing.

No surprise you were included in dumbest gfyers list.
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Doubt Scotland will vote to leave the UK. There's no guarantee they'd get back into the EU and if they did, they'd probably have to accept the Euro, and EU would probably force them to give up their rights to the oil fields or something.
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all right, all right....
the question remains: Do hot British girls, exactly that ones that puke in front of the disco every Saturday night, still take Polish Sausage ?

or Nigel farage said that the times are harsh now and it would be no more polish sausage for "hot" British puking girls ?
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all right, all right....
the question remains: Do hot British girls, exactly that ones that puke in front of the disco every Saturday night, still take Polish Sausage ?

or Nigel farage said that the times are harsh now and it would be no more polish sausage for "hot" British puking girls ?
nope, they never did. all that polish sausage never make it to the disco's, they pass out unconscious under a vomit-soaked war memorial from cheap vodka.
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No, they would not. Moron
Where do you even get nonsense like that (oh I forgot, it was some kind of tv, probably bremainer backed, reportage where they showed few "changing mind" people which of course made your little brain to conclude that millions of them changed their mind overnight), not to mention that even considering this might be true makes you a complete moron, let alone actually believing.

No surprise you were included in dumbest gfyers list.
But Gary has the highest I.Q. of any of us on GFY.
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But Gary has the highest I.Q. of any of us on GFY.
But seriously, this is unbelievable...

He/she is claiming that MORE THAN HALF OF BREXIT VOTERS WOULD VOTE REMAIN NOW.
Just read that statement and try to imagine how dumb dumb one must be to believe that.
Like I said - you must be moron of the morons to even CONSIDER that this statement MIGHT be true. Let alone BELIEVE that.

I sometimes use the phrase - how can someone be that dumb, but in this case it does not even cut it...
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He must have Rogue, all the media is telling us it was the intellectuals that voted for remain and the thickos that voted for leave.
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The free market... but unfortunately they profit from shortage... so... fucked...
All i was saying don't blame the EU for that... blame those who are responsible...
You really are clueless. The building industry will build houses if there are people there to buy them. They're doing it all the time. The problem is finding people who earn enough to get a mortgage to pay the market price in areas with jobs. Your thinking is wrong.

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How many houses would it require before the prices drop back to the levels of 15 years ago? Then tell us who would invest in flooding a market to see profits disappear? Come up with numbers or STFU.

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Like i said you can stop all migration and kick everyone out; you can make the best trading deals possible... You can leave the EU... it won't help at all... Default is inevetable...
This is the crunch. If the UK applies strict benefits rules to only British citizens. A million or more will return home. Don't just count those on benefits, count their families. In an instant 300,000 or more houses become vacant. The drop in prices and rents will follow.

A drop in public expenses drops dramatically as those in work and still relying on benefits vacate a job to be filled by a Brit and taking him off the Government tit.

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The DWP said that between 37% and 43% of EU migrants received some sort of welfare. Not a firm figure, but a range ? and quite a range, the equivalent of 40,000 people. It is clear that ministers do not actually know the truth. The figures are a broad estimate.

Take the official figures at face value, though. They mean that in 2013 between 195,000 and 235,000 of the 525,000 EU nationals resident in the UK for less than four years were in households claiming either in-work or out-of-work benefits. About 66% of the claimants were in work, according to the same data, which does not include students.
They stick the 40,000 in to make it look small. What the Government is saying is around 40% of EU migrants earn too little to contribute and therefore a cost to the rest.

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This is to get us out of debt. The big question is will the Government start cracking down on mass migration. Because its devastated most people lives.
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That is 100% besides the point in speaking about hundreds or thousands or even millions of jobs STILL being available and done mostly by migrants due to the fact that these jobs are "too low" for real Britons.
Why is it beside the point? These jobs are disappearing. With the benefits system in the UK the people doing them now., being subsidised by the rest with benefits, go to 100% subsidies.

I take your point though that some jobs are not desired by Brits. Because they pay shit or shit jobs. The people who refuse those jobs, lose benefits.
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