honestly, who is going to vote for hillary? please tell me why without using the name trump.

[charlie g]

is there anyone left on the face of the earth that does not realize this is the worst person to ever run for POTUS? I sincerely want to know why anyone would vote for this crusty old bag of shit now.

[badgirlfilms]

world is filled with dumbasses

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by badgirlfilms

world is filled with dumbasses

short and sweet 100% correct answer.

I wonder if the criminal Clinton gfy fangirls can actually answer this objectively

[plaster]

I am going to speak on mark prince's and rochard's behalf and say it is because of her self proclaimed temporment and 30, yes 30, years of experience!

[Coup]

Being an actual Hillary supporter seems to be an absolutely miserable experience for most of them. So angry and bitter...

[loreen]

Why without using the name Trump?
You can win something just because your competitor is (much more) less deserving than you.

[altmman]

Ok I'll bite.

I honestly voted for her because:

1. She has made it easier for sick people to get prescription drugs cheaper. Republicans answer is to pray the sickness away and send a check to the 700 Club and Jesus will heal you.

2. She wants to lower sentences for illegal drugs and have no jail-time for illegal marijuana use.

3. She supports Planned Parenthood which has helped me, a man, when I had ongoing pain in my abdomen and no insurance get a screening for testicular cancer. Its not just 'abortions'. Republicans hate PP but its a wonderful service that helps so many people.
I don't care how tough someone thinks they are, when you have pain in your gut and its growing you are scared shitless, thank GOD for PP.

4. Thanks to Obamacare I got insurance, went to a doctor and found out I had diabetes.
15 months later, thanks to medicine and seeing a Dietitian (again thanks to Obamacare) I lost 40 pounds and my diabetes is gone down to a prediabetes level.
I no longer take metformin/medicine, but I have to monitor it now.
Without Obamacare I was on my way to a diabetic heart attack, neuropathy, sight loss all started showing early signs in me.

5. I dont want another Scalia on the Supreme Court that overturns same sex marriage or affordable health care. I dont want to go back in time 30 years.

6. There have been great breakthroughs in medicine the past few years and I want to see it keep going. I dont want to see conservative Christians stop the progress like they did under Reagan and Bush.
Lets keep the medical research going and cure some fucking diseases already.

7. She actually believes in global warming and wants to do something about it.

8. I know a few gay couples who are legally married now and I dont want a bunch of old assholes to overturn that.

9. Republicans have named porn a "public crisis" (are you fucking kidding me?) and under Obama the porn has flowed no problem, no indictments. Under Bush and Republican rule is when we had the most problems with selling porn.
Trump signs anti-pornography pledge | Washington Examiner

Those are the biggest issues to me

[altmman]

Now with using the word Trump:

Trump is the worst candidate I've ever seen. A man with zero political experience and no patience who loses his cool when someone asks him a hard question. He's never even been a mayor or governor before and he has no idea how to fix anything. How can he expect to be President with no experience?
How can you vote for a guy who has Twitter wars with everyone? He should know not to respond.
But he can't help himself, like a teenager.

I dont understand how anyone could see him in the debates with his inability to articulate and his herky-jerky arm motions and his huffing and puffing, he looks like a sleazy used car salesman.

I'm ALL FOR a businessman running the country. I voted for Perot. I like Bloomberg and would vote for him. I liked Romney's business accomplishments.
But Trump is so delusional with his personal drama (because its fun for him). That's not world leadership.

Trump acts like a whiny spoiled teenager with no experience.
Hows he gonna 'Drain the swamp' with no experience? He wont drain jack shit because he doesn't know how.

Call me cuck all you want, its the truth.

[dave90210]

Women will vote for Hillary because they have no logic when making decisions. They will vote for her because she's female and nothing else!

Originally Posted by charlie g

is there anyone left on the face of the earth that does not realize this is the worst person to ever run for POTUS? I sincerely want to know why anyone would vote for this crusty old bag of shit now.

So you rather have a corrupted politician who dreams of an open border run this country? You're totally ok with having 600,000,000 new people flooding this country from South America and Syria?

Originally Posted by altmman

Now with using the word Trump:

Trump is the worst candidate I've ever seen. A man with zero political experience and no patience who loses his cool when someone asks him a hard question. He's never even been a mayor or governor before and he has no idea how to fix anything. How can he expect to be President with no experience?
How can you vote for a guy who has Twitter wars with everyone? He should know not to respond.
But he can't help himself, like a teenager.

I dont understand how anyone could see him in the debates with his inability to articulate and his herky-jerky arm motions and his huffing and puffing, he looks like a sleazy used car salesman.

I'm ALL FOR a businessman running the country. I voted for Perot. I like Bloomberg and would vote for him. I liked Romney's business accomplishments.
But Trump is so delusional with his personal drama (because its fun for him). That's not world leadership.

Trump acts like a whiny spoiled teenager with no experience.
Hows he gonna 'Drain the swamp' with no experience? He wont drain jack shit because he doesn't know how.

Call me cuck all you want, its the truth.

[oppoten]

dead people...

[adultchatpay]

Because they will select the lesser evil.

[plaster]

Originally Posted by oppoten

dead people...

Quoted for truth

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by altmman

Now with using the word Trump:

Trump is the worst candidate I've ever seen. A man with zero political experience and no patience who loses his cool when someone asks him a hard question. He's never even been a mayor or governor before and he has no idea how to fix anything. How can he expect to be President with no experience?
How can you vote for a guy who has Twitter wars with everyone? He should know not to respond.
But he can't help himself, like a teenager.

I dont understand how anyone could see him in the debates with his inability to articulate and his herky-jerky arm motions and his huffing and puffing, he looks like a sleazy used car salesman.

I'm ALL FOR a businessman running the country. I voted for Perot. I like Bloomberg and would vote for him. I liked Romney's business accomplishments.
But Trump is so delusional with his personal drama (because its fun for him). That's not world leadership.

Trump acts like a whiny spoiled teenager with no experience.
Hows he gonna 'Drain the swamp' with no experience? He wont drain jack shit because he doesn't know how.

Call me cuck all you want, its the truth.

Dont worry they will have a whole heap of names for you - what they wont be able to do though is articulate a rational argument against your well made points.

Prepare for the insults, and bullshit about felons, liberal media, rigged elections, sheeple, blah blah blah.

I mean come on, when did presidential candidates start to have childish spats on social media ?

FFS he declared on live TV that he will only accept the fairness of the election if he wins, I dont think I have heard anything as pathetic and childish since I was five years old.

But democracy can sometimes deliver the leaders that we deserve.

[bronco67]

Some people have created this fantasy world where Hilary Clinton is the devil, totally disregarding anything good she's done for the past 30 years. I'm not saying there's nothing shady about her, but there's a whole lot of shit being made up about her which is probably not true, considering the sources most of the info comes from. There's a narrative that's been upheld in conservative circles for decades, and many of you are suckers who fell for it.

[plaster]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Some people have created this fantasy world where Hilary Clinton is the devil, totally disregarding anything good she's done for the past 30 years. I'm not saying there's nothing shady about her, but there's a whole lot of shit being made up about her which is probably not true, considering the sources most of the info comes from. There's a narrative that's been upheld in conservative circles for decades, and many of you are suckers who fell for it.

Nope... all true.

[altmman]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Some people have created this fantasy world where Hilary Clinton is the devil, totally disregarding anything good she's done for the past 30 years.

She's nasty alright
No her first name aint baby, it's Hillary. Pres Clinton if you're nasty!

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by altmman

Those are the biggest issues to me

if I was American I'd be so fucking tempted to just spoil my ballot (not voting is not an option for me) but I'd probably end up casting one for HRC for a few of the reasons you articulated. someone has to win, of the two options presented I'd prefer it to be her

@Altman, really well (and thoughtfully) stated. is that even allowed here?

Originally Posted by dave90210

Women will vote for Hillary because they have no logic when making decisions. They will vote for her because she's female and nothing else!

I absolutely look to wealthy white women to speak to my values, concerns and priorities



Peeps deserve better than either of the two front-runners. whomever wins it won't be much of a victory

[arock10]

She is connected and corrupt enough to navigate this corrupt and connected world

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by charlie g

is there anyone left on the face of the earth that does not realize this is the worst person to ever run for POTUS? I sincerely want to know why anyone would vote for this crusty old bag of shit now.

like those guys that can't talk about Obama with out saying bush

[Coup]

Originally Posted by altmman

Now with using the word Trump:

Trump is the worst candidate I've ever seen. A man with zero political experience and no patience who loses his cool when someone asks him a hard question. He's never even been a mayor or governor before and he has no idea how to fix anything. How can he expect to be President with no experience?
How can you vote for a guy who has Twitter wars with everyone? He should know not to respond.
But he can't help himself, like a teenager.

I dont understand how anyone could see him in the debates with his inability to articulate and his herky-jerky arm motions and his huffing and puffing, he looks like a sleazy used car salesman.

I'm ALL FOR a businessman running the country. I voted for Perot. I like Bloomberg and would vote for him. I liked Romney's business accomplishments.
But Trump is so delusional with his personal drama (because its fun for him). That's not world leadership.

Trump acts like a whiny spoiled teenager with no experience.
Hows he gonna 'Drain the swamp' with no experience? He wont drain jack shit because he doesn't know how.

Call me cuck all you want, its the truth.

I won't call you names, I won't even try to refute the few points you made... Except one. You put way too much stock in political experience. It was "political experience" that has poisoned politics to the American voter to such a degree that makes a Donald Trump presidency even remotely possible.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by arock10

She is connected and corrupt enough to navigate this corrupt and connected world

Dis is the best defense of Hillary Clinton ever IMO.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Some people have created this fantasy world where Hilary Clinton is the devil, totally disregarding anything good she's done for the past 30 years. I'm not saying there's nothing shady about her, but there's a whole lot of shit being made up about her which is probably not true, considering the sources most of the info comes from. There's a narrative that's been upheld in conservative circles for decades, and many of you are suckers who fell for it.

Name 1 good thing she's done without searching google for some unknown unimportant shit.

[altmman]

Originally Posted by Coup

You put way too much stock in political experience. It was "political experience" that has poisoned politics to the American voter to such a degree that makes a Donald Trump presidency even remotely possible.

Name a president in this era who had no political experience.

While Donald was looking for a Perfect 10 to suck his dick, Hillary was taking care of business getting rid of the enemy.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by altmman

Name a president in this era who had no political experience.

Name a current experienced politician that has overwhelming approval ratings. If you can I'll forgive you for missing my point entirely.

[altmman]

Originally Posted by Coup

Name a current experienced politician that has overwhelming approval ratings. If you can I'll forgive you for missing my point entirely.

Trump has a high approval ratings?

His own hometown magazine is embarrassed of him. This is coming out now

[Coup]

Originally Posted by altmman

Trump has a high approval ratings?

No one ever said that. That wasn't even remotely my point.

[altmman]

Originally Posted by Coup

No one ever said that. That wasn't even remotely my point.

Your point is Trump will do a good job because he doesn't have any political bad habits.
Am I right?

Well wheres the proof? Wheres his approval rating in anything? I just see a long list of people who were burned by him in business and personally.
We have to have something to go on before giving this guy the keys to the bombs.

Will he cram President for Dummies real quick before taking office?

[Coup]

Originally Posted by altmman

Your point is Trump will do a good job because he doesn't have any political bad habits.
Am I right?

No. Not really. My only point is that people a fucking completely fed up with experienced politician bullshit. That is why half of this country has flocked to him. That was my point.

Personally I think Trump won't make for a very good president either. But I, like most Americans, am sick of the lies and bullshit. If that means electing Trump will be a step away from that shit, it's a step in the right direction. Add in the fact that Hillary is the shadiest, most corrupt and despicable fraud to have run for pres since Richard Nixon and it's a fucking no brainer as far as I'm concerned. Trump all the way (as much as it pains me to say that)

[CarlosTheGaucho]

That 'without mentioning Trump' part didn't really work out did it?

Rationalising voting in the most corrupt presidential candidate ever with strong ties to many islamofascist tyrranies (based on actual available evidence) is not an easy task.

https://www.twitter.com/wikileaks

Too bad it's Trump who's the only viable alternative. If he can achieve 10 pct of what he announced it will be a political miracle already with all the hacks and various interest groups that will fight die hard for the status quo.

Then again if it was not for him there would be the RNC establishment candidate against HRC which would mean the elections would be sealed a long time ago already.

[Paul Markham]

The people voting for her are the ones who are scared of changing the political system.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by dave90210

Women will vote for Hillary because they have no logic when making decisions. They will vote for her because she's female and nothing else!




So you rather have a corrupted politician who dreams of an open border run this country? You're totally ok with having 600,000,000 new people flooding this country from South America and Syria?

there aren't even close to that many people in those countries.. lol

there is no logic to voting for trump. all he has going for him is his own pats on the back. hillary is a terrible candidate too. its a disgrace americans think this is only two options.

[NatalieK]

it's Trump who has to hate on Hillary every time & so far, proven, Trump's been an ass, Hillary and these emails are just a load of crap.

Hillary for president

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Coup

Name a current experienced politician that has overwhelming approval ratings. If you can I'll forgive you for missing my point entirely.

Well that depends what you mean by overwhelming - but given that a big chunk of your electorate have bought into the idea that Barrack Obama is a Kenyan born muslim son of Osama Bin Laden, then you have to say that he is a pretty popular guy.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by altmman

zero political experience .

those with political experience sure have fucked it all up

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by loreen

Why without using the name Trump?
You can win something just because your competitor is (much more) less deserving than you.

oh yeah...trump less deserving.

care to talk about the parenting skills, & the outcomes of said candidates children?

chelsea vs ivanka...who turned out better...does anyone even know what chelsea does? has she done ANYTHING with her life yet, besides get a 600K/year check from NBC for being hilarys child?

[charlie g]

so we have one person with real reasons to vote for clinton. altmman, I am not going to go down your list. my general thought is of the things you think hilary will help you with, it is her and her cronies are the reason for the problems in the fist place. I am happy you are well now btw.

healthcare and drug costs have a direct correlation to the billions of dollars the lobbyists dump into the politicians trough. get the money out of the game and the people have the chance to get laws passed that are in their interests and not the industries. single payer is a very bad option because we know how inefficient government run services are. a mix of free enterprise and pricing controls is the best option with government oversight.

the rest i may tend to agree with you. i am pro choice and i am not a fan of a government full of religious zealots. i do think there is a real porn problem today. porn is just way too easy for children to see. if it were more difficult to see I bet sales would go up, which would be a benefit to me personally.

there is no way i can vote for clinton. i believe she is dangerous. we all know she is a liar and will do anything to get elected. it seems there are other motives that go beyond the money she peddles her influence to receive. i am not a conspiracy theorist, but I do believe there is a push for a global government for which she is a driving force.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Coup

I won't call you names, I won't even try to refute the few points you made... Except one. You put way too much stock in political experience. It was "political experience" that has poisoned politics to the American voter to such a degree that makes a Donald Trump presidency even remotely possible.

I can agree with that, but you needed someone better than trump to run here. he was unelectable before all this started and that wasn't going to magically change with some crafty campaigning.

If you had placed candidate x, that didn't have much political background as well as had no serious scandals littered across his/her portfolio candidate x would win in a landslide here. You can't tell me that there aren't people like this because there are PLENTY on both sides, we just don't here their names as often or at all because they aren't newsworthy.

[altmman]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The people voting for her are the ones who are scared of changing the political system.

Or we'd rather give the keys to someone who knows what she's doing vs a guy who has no idea what he's doing and doesnt know how to drive this thing.

[DBS.US]

Hillary Clinton Wants Open Borders

[flashfire]

Originally Posted by charlie g

is there anyone left on the face of the earth that does not realize this is the worst person to ever run for POTUS? I sincerely want to know why anyone would vote for this crusty old bag of shit now.

2nd worst

[flashfire]

Why would you vote Trump without mentioning Hillary? What policies do you like? the

"make america great again" one
"build the wall and mexico will pay for it" (reimburse us someday lol)
"Massive tax breaks for the rich who already don't pay taxes" #smart

You guys are the ones with his ugly face in your avatars...speaking of fanboys

These candidates are both historically terrible...he has run a terrible campaign. With everything that has happened he is still not winning lol

ANYONE else from the primary would have this in the bag

[romeo22]

week to go.Cant wait

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by altmman

Or we'd rather give the keys to someone who knows what she's doing vs a guy who has no idea what he's doing and doesnt know how to drive this thing.

knows what she's doing...like the private email server or what the "c" means on documents. she has only showed proficiency in raising money and telling lies.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by romeo22

week to go.Cant wait

You haven't voted yet? Why wait?

[Rochard]

I am voting for Hillary because she is the best of both candidates. With that said, if there was another Republican candidate I most likely would not be voting for her.

I'm tired of the political attacks. The Republican party is using the government and the US Justice system to attack Hillary Clinton. We had nine investigations into Benghazi, all of which came back as "no wrong doing". Now we have this email bullshit. The way she handled emails was common practice at the State Department, and we have former Republican Secrtaries of State that used the same set up yet we aren't investigating them. It's bullshit.

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Name 1 good thing she's done without searching google for some unknown unimportant shit.

This is what I've been saying since day one. She has been in politics for thirty or forty years, yet no one can name a single thing Hillary has accomplished. Not one.

[clickhappy]

They both suck

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The Republican party is using the government and the US Justice system to attack Hillary Clinton. We had nine investigations into Benghazi, all of which came back as "no wrong doing". Now we have this email bullshit. The way she handled emails was common practice at the State Department, and we have former Republican Secrtaries of State that used the same set up yet we aren't investigating them. It's bullshit.

The Democrats sway public opinion to get what they want while the Republicans use the government process. This election cycle both sides have gone way above & beyond the norm though, insane.

[rayadp05]

Honestly, I'm not sure at this point exactly who I want to vote for.

[C H R I S]

Women's Right To choose
Marriage Equality
Supreme Court
Experience
Temperment
etc
etc
etc

[Acepimp]

Altmann makes some good points. She does a decent job of fooling people into thinking she's doing good. But if we look closer, SHE is the one starting conflicts, taking bribes, selling key positions, running an illegal server, deleting emails AFTER they were under subpoena, rigging debates, stealing the primaries from Bernie, arming terror groups, and lying about everything. Oh and it wasn't just Bill and Weiner who were flying to pedo island for some underage girls!

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