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2MuchMark · 11-14-2016, 01:49 PM

The electoral college elects a president on December 19th. They do not necessary have to vote for Trump.

The electors could change their mind and elect someone else. It is not unheard of that individual "faithless electors" vote different than mandated by the result in their state for any reason.It's legal in 20-something states...

It has never happened, but in the 1800's sometime, what are called "faithless electors" in Virginia were almost pulled it off.

I found this: https://www.archives.gov/federal-reg...rovisions.html

which says

Quote:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

And this page

https://www.archives.gov/federal-reg...key-dates.html

says that the states have until Dec 13th to resolve any disputes on who to appoint as electors. Then, the final electors vote on Dec 19th.

Wouldn't it be fucking, fucking cool, if Trump LOST on Dec 19th?

It's an extreme longshot, but us Libbies have to cling to hope.

Oh happy days..

plaster · 11-14-2016, 01:55 PM

The electorates are Republican appointed Trump supporters that cast their electorate vote, because Trump won the state. If Clinton won the state, it would be Democratic appointed electors.

THERE

IS

NOT

A

CHANCE

TRUMP

ELECTORS

WILL

CAST

FOR

HITLARY!

... sorry OP

Dvae · 11-14-2016, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

The electoral college elects a president on December 19th. They do not necessary have to vote for Trump.

The electors could change their mind and elect someone else. It is not unheard of that individual "faithless electors" vote different than mandated by the result in their state for any reason.It's legal in 20-something states...

It has never happened, but in the 1800's sometime, what are called "faithless electors" in Virginia were almost pulled it off.

I found this: https://www.archives.gov/federal-reg...rovisions.html

which says

And this page

https://www.archives.gov/federal-reg...key-dates.html

says that the states have until Dec 13th to resolve any disputes on who to appoint as electors. Then, the final electors vote on Dec 19th.

Wouldn't it be fucking, fucking cool, if Trump LOST on Dec 19th?

It's an extreme longshot, but us Libbies have to cling to hope.

Oh happy days..

How about this Mark, learn to lose gracefully.
Libs won the previous 2 elections. Who says you have to win every time?

There was at least a much dislike for Obama as there is for Trump and we didn't feel the need to riot and act like 6yr olds that don't get their way.

CaptainHowdy · 11-14-2016, 02:09 PM

Why do you keep up with this??

klinton · 11-14-2016, 02:10 PM

TCLGirls · 11-14-2016, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

The electorates are Republican appointed Trump supporters that cast their electorate vote, because Trump won the state. If Clinton won the state, it would be Democratic appointed electors.

THERE

IS

NOT

A

CHANCE

TRUMP

ELECTORS

WILL

CAST

FOR

HITLARY!

... sorry OP

The Republican appointed electors were appointed prior to the Republican National Convention...so it was still unknown to them who the GOP nominee would be. And there's already some Republican electors who said they would not vote Trump.

2MuchMark · 11-14-2016, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

The electorates are Republican appointed Trump supporters that cast their electorate vote, because Trump won the state. If Clinton won the state, it would be Democratic appointed electors.

THERE

IS

NOT

A

CHANCE

TRUMP

ELECTORS

WILL

CAST

FOR

HITLARY!

... sorry OP

LOL! You missed something my friend.... They were appointed beforehand. And no of course they would not vote for Hillary. What they could do though, is vote for another republican.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae

How about this Mark, learn to lose gracefully.
Libs won the previous 2 elections. Who says you have to win every time?

There was at least a much dislike for Obama as there is for Trump and we didn't feel the need to riot and act like 6yr olds that don't get their way.

I've already accepted the loss (and paid out on my losing debts, argh!). It is already clear that Donald Trump will be the most disliked a-hole ever to be President. And like it or not, there is very slight, but very legal, and very democratic way he might not make it through the doors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Why do you keep up with this??

I don't know. Clearly I need more xanax.

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton

Yeah....

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

The Republican appointed electors were appointed prior to the Republican National Convention...so it was still unknown to them who the GOP nominee would be. And there's already some Republican electors who said they would not vote Trump.

That's what I said goddamiit!

2MuchMark · 11-14-2016, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

The electorates are Republican appointed Trump supporters that cast their electorate vote, because Trump won the state. If Clinton won the state, it would be Democratic appointed electors.

THERE

IS

NOT

A

CHANCE

TRUMP

ELECTORS

WILL

CAST

FOR

HITLARY!

... sorry OP

Faithless Electors Switching to Hillary: 5 Fast Facts | Heavy.com

Over 4 Million people have already signed this petition https://www.change.org/p/electoral-c...etition-no_msg

So.... maybe Plaster, you will have to pay me my $100.00 after all.

plaster · 11-14-2016, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

The Republican appointed electors were appointed prior to the Republican National Convention...so it was still unknown to them who the GOP nominee would be. And there's already some Republican electors who said they would not vote Trump.

None in the states that he won...

Only in California maybe... but CA really doesn't count as a state anyways

2MuchMark · 11-14-2016, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

but CA really doesn't count as a state anyways

too many damn libbies?

plaster · 11-14-2016, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

too many damn libbies?

While rioting the CA libs said they wanted to be their own country... I say let them at it

astronaut x · 11-14-2016, 02:31 PM

While it's true, the electors could vote for another Repugnant, it's not going to happen.

Would we really even want that? I think we are all about to find out that Trump tricked his base. Don't get me wrong, he ran the most vial and sleazy campaign since Hitler. and he can't seem to control his mouth (the real danger IMHO)...I think he is going to be safer than Mike Pence. Which is why, I think the Repugs will end up getting rid of him in the future. Either by impeachment (led by GOP) or by other means (speculate all you want.)

TCLGirls · 11-14-2016, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

None in the states that he won...

Only in California maybe... but CA really doesn't count as a state anyways

Yes in the states Trump won...Alaska for example.

And might as well consider Kentucky in play...considering Trump made fun on Rand Paul who is very popular in Kentucky. Add South Carolina (Lindsy Graham), Ohio (Kaish) and Arizona (McCain) as well. All those pols have sway in those states.

BTW, there doesn't need to be a whole bunch of faithless electors to turn over the election. There just needs to be between 20 to 30 of them to drop Trump below 270 votes.

Relic · 11-14-2016, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Why do you keep up with this??

He's a meddler.

Joshua G · 11-14-2016, 03:15 PM

just a punk · 11-14-2016, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

The electoral college elects a president on December 19th. They do not necessary have to vote for Trump.

Yes, they don't. The USA have no direct voting system - they are still using the old one which was made for peasants, so if the college won't vote for Trump, it will be an excellent proof that there is no democracy in America... So they WILL vote for Trump, because nobody wants to admit the US democracy is fucked up

baddog · 11-14-2016, 03:32 PM

Canadians can be so delusional ... if Trump won by a couple EC votes, you might have something but it was a landslide which means not a fucking chance.

mineistaken · 11-14-2016, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

I don't know. Clearly I need more xanax.

At least you are one of the anti Trumpsters that can admit that.

Kittens...

C H R I S · 11-14-2016, 04:29 PM

If wishes we're fishes...... Get back to your Poutine

Dvae · 11-14-2016, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Yes, they don't. The USA have no direct voting system - they are still using the old one which was made for peasants, so if the college won't vote for Trump, it will be an excellent proof that there is no democracy in America... So they WILL vote for Trump, because nobody wants to admit the US democracy is fucked up

USA is not a democracy!

EonBlue · 11-14-2016, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Canadians can be so delusional ... if Trump won by a couple EC votes, you might have something but it was a landslide which means not a fucking chance.

We're not all like him, trust me.

.

Relic · 11-14-2016, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by C H R I S

Get back to your Poutine

Too much sodium

Matt-ADX · 11-14-2016, 05:14 PM

Why would Republicans give up the white house? Trump helped them in the senate as well, they actually owe Trump quite a bit, they going to give up complete power over nonsense?

ilnjscb · 11-14-2016, 05:15 PM

It was not even vaguely a landslide. He won because of 107,000 votes, .1% of the total, in three states. He will lose the popular vote.

HOWEVER, he won fair and square. To encourage electors, who are uniformly pillars of their parties, to undertake what basically amounts to a coup, is so ridiculous as to be frankly delusional.

Concentrate on 2020 and 2018 midterms, is my humble advice.

xXXtesy10 · 11-14-2016, 05:21 PM

plaster · 11-14-2016, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

It was not even vaguely a landslide. He won because of 107,000 votes, .1% of the total, in three states. He will lose the popular vote.

HOWEVER, he won fair and square. To encourage electors, who are uniformly pillars of their parties, to undertake what basically amounts to a coup, is so ridiculous as to be frankly delusional.

Concentrate on 2020 and 2018 midterms, is my humble advice.

It was a landslide electoral win and an unprecedented swing in votes in the battleground states. Take the number Romney lost by in all the swing states and add that to the states trump won. That's the shift... and it's yuge and no amount of number manipulation can deny the landslide victory that just ensued.

plaster · 11-14-2016, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

It was a landslide electoral win and an unprecedented swing in votes in the battleground states. Take the number Romney lost by in all the swing states and add that to the states trump won. That's the shift... and it's yuge and no amount of number manipulation can deny the landslide victory that just ensued.

Take these Obama states which Trump won:

Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin

Add the Romney number of loss to the trump number of win to see the significance of what happened. I'm not going to do it... but someone can if they want.

ErectMedia · 11-14-2016, 06:51 PM

Trump wins and ya get protests all day from big city DemoCucks who don't work anyway so they got all day to fuck off until their government check comes.

Reverse that decision and it would be ten fold da drama as Trump supporters know how to fight and handle a gun as all that Red across the map in farmland would be gun owners. City DemoCuck ain't got shit on da country Trump nation.

2MuchMark · 11-14-2016, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

At least you are one of the anti Trumpsters that can admit that.

Kittens...

Kittens!!!!!!

ilnjscb · 11-16-2016, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

It was a landslide electoral win and an unprecedented swing in votes in the battleground states. Take the number Romney lost by in all the swing states and add that to the states trump won. That's the shift... and it's yuge and no amount of number manipulation can deny the landslide victory that just ensued.

The swing in votes was not a landslide. He lost the popular vote. He won some states by less than .5%. That's ok, he won, but it isn't a landslide by any means. I'm sure the democrats hope he thinks like you, because if he does, the midterms will be interesting. If he takes a lesson from Clinton, Bush, and Obama and unlike them is somewhat moderate he could actually gain in the midterms. Let's see what he does.

Vendot · 11-16-2016, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

Wouldn't it be fucking, fucking cool, if Trump LOST on Dec 19th?

If I walk down the street at night and see a person glowing in the dark, my initial response might be something like: "that's cool"

BlackCrayon · 11-16-2016, 08:28 AM

11000 people voted for a dead gorilla. serious politics.

Rochard · 11-16-2016, 08:37 AM

There is no chance of this happening really.

However, Trump goes on trial on the 28th for fraud and racketeering for Trump University, in the first of multiple trials for Trump University. Then there is the investigation into Trump Foundation, which will become a huge headache for him as well - The list of issues he is going to have will be long.

It is entirely possible that we might have a President Elect convicted of fraud and racketeering before he takes office, or directly after - which would could be an impeachable offense. And please do not argue he cannot be impeached for this, he surely can - Clinton was impeached for lying under oath which is a lesser offense than defrauding thousands of people out of millions of dollars.

This will be fun to watch.

Barry-xlovecam · 11-16-2016, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

There is no chance of this happening really.

However, Trump goes on trial on the 28th for fraud and racketeering for Trump University, ... millions of dollars.

This will be fun to watch.

I read that Trump's lawyers have motioned for continuance (extension delay) and are busy trying to settle this out of court now with the estimates of settlement amounts in excess of $100 Million ( all 3 actions ) ... Expensive "get out of jail card."

Mickey_ · 11-16-2016, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

There is no chance of this happening really.

However, Trump goes on trial on the 28th for fraud and racketeering for Trump University, in the first of multiple trials for Trump University. Then there is the investigation into Trump Foundation, which will become a huge headache for him as well - The list of issues he is going to have will be long.

It is entirely possible that we might have a President Elect convicted of fraud and racketeering before he takes office, or directly after - which would could be an impeachable offense. And please do not argue he cannot be impeached for this, he surely can - Clinton was impeached for lying under oath which is a lesser offense than defrauding thousands of people out of millions of dollars.

This will be fun to watch.

Pretty sure this will be sweeped under the rug. Money and power will take care of that. Slap on the wrist, fines, etc.

Rochard · 11-16-2016, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I read that Trump's lawyers have motioned for continuance (extension delay) and are busy trying to settle this out of court now with the estimates of settlement amounts in excess of $100 Million ( all 3 actions ) ... Expensive "get out of jail card."

They haven fighting to push this back claiming "Trump is busy". That is not appropriate. We do not push back trial dates because "someone is busy". They can argue Trump will be busy for the next four to eight years, but this is irrelevant - Legal action still moves forward even when someone is President of a country.

It's obvious they are trying to settle, and it would be expensive. But you can guess a fair portion of the people involved in the lawsuit are not fans of Trump, did not vote for him, and would love to see a long and drawn out trail if only to make Trump look bad.

If this trial does not go to court, there is another one. And an investigation into the Trump Foundation, which seems to have operated illegally from the day it was created.

Trump is nothing but a liability. Currently he has two hundred legal cases pending against him, and you know the press is sniffing around looking into all of his business dealings hoping to find something dirty or bad. The Trump administration will be one scandal after another.

2MuchMark · 11-16-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

This will be fun to watch.

Definitely.

TheDynasty · 11-16-2016, 01:16 PM

it's not over yet!

bronco67 · 11-16-2016, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

Wouldn't it be fucking, fucking cool, if Trump LOST on Dec 19th?

It's an extreme longshot, but us Libbies have to cling to hope.

Oh happy days..

If his transition keeps looking the trainwreck it started as, I wouldn't rule it out. Trump and his team are way out of their depth and have no idea what they don't know about what it takes to run a presidential administration.

Bladewire · 11-16-2016, 01:40 PM

Never heard of a president elect wanting all his kids and son in law to have top security clearance while also running his billion dollar company.

The businessman in Trump is who runs his life. I don't think Trump has the strength to resist greatly benefiting himself from the presidency, or the brains to keep from getting caught.

RyuLion · 11-16-2016, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton

Wishful thinking..

2MuchMark · 11-16-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Never heard of a president elect wanting all his kids and son in law to have top security clearance while also running his billion dollar company.

The businessman in Trump is who runs his life. I don't think Trump has the strength to resist greatly benefiting himself from the presidency, or the brains to keep from getting caught.

I doubt he will make it through the first year without fucking it all up.

Look Chang · 11-17-2016, 12:07 AM

What a decrepitude for a country which has the ambition to rule the world

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plaster So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,295	The electorates are Republican appointed Trump supporters that cast their electorate vote, because Trump won the state. If Clinton won the state, it would be Democratic appointed electors. THERE IS NOT A CHANCE TRUMP ELECTORS WILL CAST FOR HITLARY! ... sorry OP

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