Obama orders 'full review' of 2016 election hacking

[brassmonkey]

President Obama at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa on Tuesday. (Photo: Monica Herndon/Tampa Bay Times via AP, Pool)

President Obama has ordered the U.S. intelligence community to conduct a "full review" of the cyberattacks during the 2016 election and to prepare a report on the subject - including to Congress - before he leaves office, White House homeland security adviser Lisa Monaco said Thursday.

"We may have crossed into a new threshold," Monaco said at a breakfast meeting with reporters, referring to the "malicious" election-related cyberattacks, which U.S. intelligence officials have said publicly they are "confident" were directed by the Russian government. "And it's incumbent upon us to take a stock of that, to review, to conduct some after-action, to understand what this means and what has happened and to impart lessons learned."

Deputy White House press secretary Eric Schultz later told reporters that Obama ordered the review earlier this week, describing it as a "deep dive" by U.S. intelligence agencies - working with the FBI and the State Department - into malicious cyberattacks that the U.S. intelligence community have already determined was directed at the "highest levels" of the Russian government. (Schultz notably said Thursday that the U.S. intelligence community has "high confidence" in that conclusion. The intelligence community had previously said it was "confident" about the Russian role.) He added that the review will also encompass cyberprobing and "scanning" of state election systems last summer, as well as look back at an earlier election-related cyberattack on the campaigns of Obama and Sen. John McCain in 2008, which U.S. officials attributed to the Chinese government.

Schultz emphasized that the review is "not an effort to challenge the outcome" of the 2016 presidential election. Still, he said, "it's a huge priority. It's a major priority for the president."

Obama's review could box in President-elect Donald Trump on an issue that has wide-ranging implications for U.S.-Russia relations. Already the matter has prompted calls for further investigations by the Congress - including proposals to create a national commission, patterned after the one formed after the 9/11 terror attacks - to conduct a full public review of the subject.

In an interview released this week, President-elect Trump dismissed the conclusions of the intelligence community on the Russian role in cyberattacks on the Democratic National Committee and other political organizations, saying at one point they could have been committed by "some guy in his home in New Jersey."

"I don't believe they interfered," said Trump in an interview with Time, about the Russian role in meddling in the U.S. election. "That became a laughing point, not a talking point, a laughing point. . Why not get along with Russia?" Trump added. "And they can help us fight ISIS, which is both costly in lives and costly in money. And they're effective and smart. It could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey. I believe that it could have been Russia, and it could have been any one of many other people. Sources and even individuals."

Despite calls by seven Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee for the Obama administration to declassify more information about what it knows about the cyberattacks, Monaco did not commit to a public release of the intelligence community's review, saying officials had to be careful not to release information that would "disclose sources and methods." But Schultz later told reporters, "We're going to make public as much as we can."

She also did not respond to a question about what response the U.S. government may have taken, or is still contemplating, in retaliation for what it believes to be the Russian attacks. In her opening comments to reporters, Monaco spoke generally about the cyberthreats facing the country, adding at one point that "we will act to protect our interests, as well as impose costs" on malicious cyber actors, including nation-states, that attack U.S. interests. She did not elaborate.

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[TheLegacy]

This has the makings of a backlash both overseas and within USA.

[Bladewire]

Let's hope they get this out before December 19th so the Electoral College can make an informed decision of who they're really appointing.

Russia says it had 'contacts' with the Trump campaign during the election

[Phoenix]

what are you hoping for?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Let's hope they get this out before December 19th so the Electoral College can make an informed decision of who they're really appointing.

Russia says it had 'contacts' with the Trump campaign during the election

Originally Posted by Phoenix

what are you hoping for?

[Sarn]

Soros is not profitable)) better that Russia and the US will be at war and he manipulated all. recent days, Obama works well))

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

what are you hoping for?

A really nice gift for Christmas.

[Lykos]

Is there chances that Trump doesn't become president at the end? He got like 2,5 mil less votes anyway, right ? Never understood that rule

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Lykos

Is there chances that Trump doesn't become president at the end? He got like 2,5 mil less votes anyway, right ? Never understood that rule

Yes there is a chance he will not become president.

In America we have the popular vote, and we have the electoral college vote.

The electoral college was created to prevent the majority from voting against America's interest.

The electoral college is made of 538 elite electors, and by the constitution, they are to vote their conscience for the president. The candidate who gets 270 or more electoral college votes wins.

Michael Moore Predicts Electoral College Will Deny Trump the Presidency

[kane]

Originally Posted by Lykos

Is there chances that Trump doesn't become president at the end? He got like 2,5 mil less votes anyway, right ? Never understood that rule

There is a chance, but it is a very small, microscopic chance.

There are a few ways in which he may not become president.

1. Enough electors choose to vote against him when the Electoral College meets. 38 of them would have to change their votes in order for that to happen which is very VERY unlikely.

2. This investigation turns up something that shows Trump did something to rig the election and committed a crime or crimes in order to win. I don't know exactly how this would play out, but if he were charged with a crime I'm not sure if he would be allowed to become president. If the investigation turned up these crimes after he was in office he could be impeached.

[brassmonkey]

because you are an expert on this? lol this is the first time an elected pres is facing a court case. the guy is a fuking weasel!

Originally Posted by kane

There is a chance, but it is a very small, microscopic chance.

There are a few ways in which he may not become president.

1. Enough electors choose to vote against him when the Electoral College meets. 38 of them would have to change their votes in order for that to happen which is very VERY unlikely.

2. This investigation turns up something that shows Trump did something to rig the election and committed a crime or crimes in order to win. I don't know exactly how this would play out, but if he were charged with a crime I'm not sure if he would be allowed to become president. If the investigation turned up these crimes after he was in office he could be impeached.

[kane]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

because you are an expert on this? lol this is the first time an elected pres is facing a court case. the guy is a fuking weasel!

I'm not claiming to be an expert and I agree, Trump is a weasel. That said, I just don't see a whole lot of other ways for him not to become president. As much as some people might want it, I don't think 39 electors are going to vote for Clinton. The only way the investigation Obama has ordered can really change things is if it brings up evidence that Trump and his people rigged the election.

Maybe there are other ways he could be kept from becoming president, but I don't see them.

Care to enlighten?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by kane

I'm not claiming to be an expert and I agree, Trump is a weasel. That said, I just don't see a whole lot of other ways for him not to become president. As much as some people might want it, I don't think 39 electors are going to vote for Clinton. The only way the investigation Obama has ordered can really change things is if it brings up evidence that Trump and his people rigged the election.

Maybe there are other ways he could be kept from becoming president, but I don't see them.

Care to enlighten?

the majority does not want trump! i think he has sum good points but the communist part worries me. we may have to defend our shit in the next 4 years. i hope i am wrong

[kane]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the majority does not want trump! i think he has sum good points but the communist part worries me. we may have to defend our shit in the next 4 years. i hope i am wrong

You are correct. The majority of voters don't want Trump, but our system is such that it doesn't matter. With the current system that is in place it is going to be nearly impossible to keep Trump from taking office.

[Bladewire]

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Lykos

Is there chances that Trump doesn't become president at the end? He got like 2,5 mil less votes anyway, right ? Never understood that rule

Go back to high school and pay attention this time.

[Rochard]

If the Russians were involved in hacking the emails or otherwise intentionally tried to influence the election..... That would be huge.

[Sarn]

[nico-t]

wow, Trump really makes the establishment desperate in all these attempts to undermine democracy. Obama really hates democracy.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Yes there is a chance he will not become president.

in your triggered dreams

[Barry-xlovecam]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us...tion-hack.html
Russia Hacked Republican Committee but Kept Data, U.S. Concludes

WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.

They based that conclusion, in part, on another finding — which they say was also reached with high confidence — that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.

In the months before the election, it was largely documents from Democratic Party systems that were leaked to the public. Intelligence agencies have concluded that the Russians gave the Democrats’ documents to WikiLeaks.

Republicans have a different explanation for why no documents from their networks were ever released. Over the past several months, officials from the Republican committee have consistently said that their networks were not compromised, asserting that only the accounts of individual Republicans were attacked. On Friday, a senior committee official said he had no comment.

Thanks Putin.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Rochard

If the Russians were involved in hacking the emails or otherwise intentionally tried to influence the election..... That would be huge.

Same as part of the Clinton campaign financed from Saudi money? colluding with mass media? false flag operations in order to instigate problems and violence? hatchet jobs timed at the right moment? all in order to influence the electioň?

Ah hold on that is probably what didn't get her elected in the first place since there has been obviously enough people casting a protest vote.

Now can one write an analytical report why Russia may have a strategic interest in not electing Clinton? Definitely!

However it's again the same problem - they are so blindfolded that it doesn't ever appear to them it's the CONTENT of those emails that should be addressed. Not WHO released them - that is something that will NEVER be confirmed, and is completely irrelevant.

Such desperate moves in order to still try to influence the public opinion after the election, while af least one half of the country could obviously only care about the content, NOT the messenger.

This delusional move, completely ignoring the core of the problem is truly significant to the whole past administration and it is very likely to backfire.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us...tion-hack.html
Russia Hacked Republican Committee but Kept Data, U.S. Concludes



Thanks Putin.

That's nothing, zero, compared to what George Soros and his establishment friends have done to push Hillary and their aggressive year long propaganda campaigns to brainwash the people. Or do you somehow feel that isn't influencing the people?

They even rigged the primaries against Bernie. And what's even more unbelievable is that alot the people who supported Bernie voted for Clinton, the one who fucked Bernie over...
That's like when you walk hand in hand with your girlfriend, then a guy smashes her head in leaving her dead on the street, and you continue to walk hand in hand now with the guy who killed your girlfriend. It's completely insane.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by nico-t

wow, Trump really makes the establishment desperate in all these attempts to undermine democracy. Obama really hates democracy.

Spin spin baby... Trump has been claiming the election was rigged even after the election ended. Yet because a recount or investigation might hurt him, now it's different..

I'd laugh my ass off if both Trump and Hillary were caught cheating. I'd then go to the streets along with every other "real American" and demand a new election.

[Sarn]

that feel when you hack pentagon and cia fbi and NSA fuck up.


Russia strong №1

[CaptainHowdy]

Ok .........

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Ok .........

it was sarcasm)

[baddog]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Go back to high school and pay attention this time.

Do you have any idea what country he lives in; or were you trying to come across as an idiot?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

Spin spin baby... Trump has been claiming the election was rigged even after the election ended. Yet because a recount or investigation might hurt him, now it's different..

I'd laugh my ass off if both Trump and Hillary were caught cheating. I'd then go to the streets along with every other "real American" and demand a new election.

You are the one that needs to go back to high school

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

You are the one that needs to go back to high school

Grumpy old Men 3 coming soon..

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us...tion-hack.html
Russia Hacked Republican Committee but Kept Data, U.S. Concludes



Thanks Putin.

Is that the same high confidence that insisted that Clinton would win?

[Barry-xlovecam]

[ l]inked to a Breitbart News piece saying the pair broke bread as Trump’s rise “TERRIFIES WORLD ELITE.” But if Kaine is friendly with Alex Soros, it probably doesn’t compare to the good times Donald Trump has shared with Soros’s dad.

Over the years, the two billionaires have had tabloid-friendly professional dealings, teaming up to build one of North America’s most recognizable skyscrapers—and shared billing on a lawsuit over the sale of the most expensive building in New York City.

The two billionaires even palled around one Christmas Eve. None of this means Donald Trump is a covert George Soros puppet. But it’s already given some conservatives pause.

RIGHT SPEAK: Donald Trump Took George Soros’s Money

george-soross Another well educated conservitard blogger ...

like them sissors's bad cuts -- the American idiot speaks --MAGA! --- LMAO
Your blog dollars hard at work

https://www.google.com/search?q=soros+lent+trump

They are all in this shit together ...

Big names back Trump tower - tribunedigital-chicagotribune

Donald Trump Took Liberal Icon George Soros’s Money - The Daily Beast Just as lame I guess ...

[Barry-xlovecam]

17 US government agencies are confident and Baddog says he knows better ...

For the record: I don't favor Clinton or Trump and resent the only choice being between the devil and the deep blue sea.

[Barry-xlovecam]

If this story has legs -- it may be that there was no collusion. Only that there was Russian criminal interference with the US election process.

I have a problem with that and I have to blame the RNC and the DNC as being incompetent -- they both got hacked.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

....
They are all in this shit together ...
...

but money is money))

[Vendzilla]

So what they are saying is that the Democrats are desperate?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

17 US government agencies are confident and Baddog says he knows better ...

For the record: I don't favor Clinton or Trump and resent the only choice being between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Its a common trend, right wingers "always" know better..

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

Is that the same high confidence that insisted that Clinton would win?

Clinton did win the popular vote.. Never in history has the popular vote been so much more and the candidate didn't win the EC.

That shows, that gerrymandering is what "won" the EC. Meaning a rigged system at state level in a handful of states changed the outcome of the election.

That is not how our elections should work. If you think allowing state governments to change the will of the people by redrawing lines is ok, then you should move to Russia or some other shit hole where the public has no real choice.

[Barry-xlovecam]

The real question is about outside interference in the US Elections. In the wider view: the condition of US private and government network infrastructure security.

Both the DNC and RNC had their shit hacked -- that should bother EVERYONE.

Anyway, when Trump's business network gets hacked, if it ever does, I bet some shit will hit the fans. Then US network security will be a *more real* issue to some I guess.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The real question is about outside interference in the US Elections. In the wider view: the condition of US private and government network infrastructure security.

Both the DNC and RNC had their shit hacked -- that should bother EVERYONE.

Anyway, when Trump's business network gets hacked, if it ever does, I bet some shit will hit the fans. Then US network security will be a *more real* issue to some I guess.

Trump was hacked, blackmailed & paid off by Putin.

Trump tells a ten year old blond girl going up the escalator that he'll be dating her soon (not knowing he was being recorded) imagine what a person like that does in private not thinking he's being recorded, like on a visit to Russia perhaps. Trumps huge ego, grab 'em by the pussy, the guy who never apologizes, would do anything to save face.

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by nico-t

wow, Trump really makes the establishment desperate in all these attempts to undermine democracy. Obama really hates democracy.

Keep drinking the koolaid. He is the establishment and so are his cabinet picks!

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Keep drinking the koolaid. He is the establishment and so are his cabinet picks!

Nico-T is Dutch and lives in the Netherlands. For some reason he's heavily vested in American republican political hyperbole.

He has no actual knowledge of the intricacies of Trumps cabinet pics and appointees.

He has no idea that every one of Trumps cabinet pics are old school lock & chain Republicans and heads of Goldman Sachs, and he doesn't care, it's all superficial to him because he just likes saying republicans are winners and all others suck

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The real question is about outside interference in the US Elections.

The outside interference is Hillary having a personal and DNC server that could be hacked by Russians.

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by kane

I'm not claiming to be an expert and I agree, Trump is a weasel. That said, I just don't see a whole lot of other ways for him not to become president. As much as some people might want it, I don't think 39 electors are going to vote for Clinton. The only way the investigation Obama has ordered can really change things is if it brings up evidence that Trump and his people rigged the election.

Maybe there are other ways he could be kept from becoming president, but I don't see them.

Care to enlighten?

They don't have to vote for Clinton, acutally, but I too do not think that enough electors will change their vote. I do think that their should be an investigation into the "hacking" matter to confirm who did it, if possible, and to hopefully come up with some ideas to prevent it from happening again.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Nico-T is Dutch and lives in the Netherlands. For some reason he's heavily vested in American republican political hyperbole.

He has no actual knowledge of the intricacies of Trumps cabinet pics and appointees.

He has no idea that every one of Trumps cabinet pics are old school lock & chain Republicans and heads of Goldman Sachs, and he doesn't care, it's all superficial to him because he just likes saying republicans are winners and all others suck

wrong

Trump is the winner, all others suck

I do not care about democrats and republicans. The Bushes are exactly the same as the Clintons: Establishment puppets

[Lichen]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us...tion-hack.html

WASHINGTON ? American intelligence agencies have concluded with ?high confidence? that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton?s chances and promote Donald J. Trump

BREAKING.
CIA: "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, war justified."

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

wrong

Trump is the winner, all others suck

I do not care about democrats and republicans. The Bushes are exactly the same as the Clintons: Establishment puppets

I'm a Blue Dog Democrat now, I used to be a Rockefeller Republican, I'm fiscally conservative. Everyone Trump has appointed is pro multi-national corporate welfare, which will drain our system. I'm glad he's building up our military and gearing up for a fight.

We'll see how things turnout, he lies so much it's hard to really tell what we're in for but its not looking good for our country financially.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

AWESOME!!!!!!

What a great, great day for America and the world it could be.

Originally Posted by Rochard

If the Russians were involved in hacking the emails or otherwise intentionally tried to influence the election..... That would be huge.

It looks like they really were involved:

Check this out, by the Washington Post no less:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e56af92fe0e0

And to no surprise, Donald Trump is having a meltdown and calling out the CIA (LOL!!)
Donald Trump takes aim at US intel on Russia - CNNPolitics.com

What would happen if all of this turns out to be true? If Russia was shown to have hacked the election and worked with Trump to get him elected. Would Trump be automaticall disqualified from being Prez? Or would he have to be impeached? Would Pence take over, or would there be another election? I'm sure all of this is unheard of in US politics, but just wondering if you knew anyway.

Originally Posted by nico-t

wow, Trump really makes the establishment desperate in all these attempts to undermine democracy. Obama really hates democracy.

No that's not right. Democracy lets Obama launch an investigation, the same way it lets Trump say everything he says. And, it was democracy that allowed Trump to get this far. But now since there are so many questions, the democratic process must be allowed to continue so that those questions can be answered.

Originally Posted by crockett

Spin spin baby...

Originally Posted by baddog

You are the one that needs to go back to high school

Why? Trump claimed the election was rigged before he won, and again after he won. I don't know if a recount would hurt him. Maybe yes, maybe no. As a true-blue American yourself, what do you have against a recount? Isn't this democracy?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

17 US government agencies are confident and Baddog says he knows better ...

I didn't say anything; I asked you a question. I thought you were fluent in English.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by crockett

Clinton did win the popular vote.. Never in history has the popular vote been so much more and the candidate didn't win the EC.

That shows, that gerrymandering is what "won" the EC. Meaning a rigged system at state level in a handful of states changed the outcome of the election.

That is not how our elections should work. If you think allowing state governments to change the will of the people by redrawing lines is ok, then you should move to Russia or some other shit hole where the public has no real choice.

Obviously you don't understand what gerrymandering is. When did states have their boundaries realigned?