It's a Dutch Christmas!

[Bladewire]

This is the first result I get on Google image search for Dutch Christmas. What is it? What results do you get?

[wehateporn]

Why do you care about other countries OP? You live in US

[mineistaken]

Second image result:
United Nations: Dutch Christmas is Racist » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

US libtards are trying to impose their imagination about what is "racist" on Dutch people.

Op should not like that libtard move judging by the fact that he is constantly complaining how non Americans are talking about US affairs

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This is the first result I get on Google image search for Dutch Christmas. What is it? What results do you get?

my first showed this image below, the second result was the same as you Bladewire

[Scott McD]

Try a Dutch oven...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Second image result:
United Nations: Dutch Christmas is Racist » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

US libtards are trying to impose their imagination about what is "racist" on Dutch people.

Op should not like that libtard move judging by the fact that he is constantly complaining how non Americans are talking about US affairs

Thanks I didn't know what I was seeing.

I'm not a liberal, I'm a Blue Dog democrat, I used to be a Rockefeller Republican until Bush.

The image makes sense now, the Dutch were creators of the transatlantic slave trade.

It seems to me that if certain black face characters are part of their cultural history celebrating a holiday in a positive way that it's not "racist".

The trend on GFY seems to be taking a great interest in other countries cultures and politics so I'm going try to be trendy too and learn about your cultures and politics to see what makes the rest of the world so much better than America

[BlackCrayon]

black pete..hard to deny it has racist notions.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

black pete..hard to deny it has racist notions.

If you look through North American PC media brainwashed glasses.
You can not look through those glasses into other countries though.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

If you look through North American PC media brainwashed glasses.
You can not look through those glasses into other countries though.

Why don't they let black Dutch people play the role of black Pete? It seems it would be appropriate for them to play their role in the tradition. Why are no black people dressed up as black Pete?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Why don't they let black Dutch people play the role of black Pete?

Where do you get idea they do not let them play?

Sounds like from having zero idea about this you turned into an expert...

[Konda]

They are black because they climb through the chimneys to deliver the present

That's what most people in NL say, but that doesn't explain the big red lips and big golden ear rings.

Either way it's a children's tradition that was never a problem until a few years ago when the black people in NL suddenly started to complain that it was racist...

So now it's banned in a few counties, and other counties make it that they have to be in all sorts of colors (so also red, yellow, orange, etc. Petes)

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Why do you care about other countries OP? You live in US

Maybe he's bored of celebrating the same thing here..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Where do you get idea they do not let them play?

Sounds like from having zero idea about this you turned into an expert...

Show me pics of the black people dressed as black Pete mineistaken, since have such best knowledge as a Russian living in Russia. I cant find any black folks dressed as black Pete, anywhere on Google image search, only white folks in black face.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Konda

They are black because they climb through the chimneys to deliver the present

That's what most people in NL say, but that doesn't explain the big red lips and big golden ear rings.

Either way it's a children's tradition that was never a problem until a few years ago when the black people in NL suddenly started to complain that it was racist...

So now it's banned in a few counties, and other counties make it that they have to be in all sorts of colors (so also red, yellow, orange, etc. Petes)

Got it thank you!

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Show me pics of the black people dressed as black Pete mineistaken, since have such best knowledge as a Russian living in Russia. I cant find any black folks dressed as black Pete, anywhere on Google image search, only white folks in black face.

Solid logic - no black people as black pete in google images = they are NOT ALLOWED to play black pete

Unbelievable tool

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Konda

\black people in NL suddenly started to complain that it was racist...

As I said - they get their ideas from US. They saw that it was "racist" in US and suddenly they decided it was "racist". Even though prior to that they had no problem with that.

That is why crooked libster US media is more dangerous than it seems - it has influence over rest of the world.

While in fact black pete from NL has nothing to do with bkack face from US. They were invented in different circumstances, in different times and so on.
2 different things.

[Bladewire]

^^ triggered meltdown ^^

Racist Russian, in R2ussia, blaming Dutch race issues on America, while Dutch blacks protest racism. And Dutch poster Nico-T posts in every other thread but the one about his country. Love it

[Tjeezers]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

black pete..hard to deny it has racist notions.

Easy to see you are lacking on your history knowledge

[Tjeezers]

a lot of dark coloured people in The Netherlands were really cool with our traditions, they even dressed up as Zwarte ( black) Piet, now they are not allowed to join this tradition anymore cause they are black, and thats racist, makes sense right?

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by Tjeezers_Brokerbabe

a lot of dark coloured people in The Netherlands were really cool with our traditions, they even dressed up as Zwarte ( black) Piet, now they are not allowed to join this tradition anymore cause they are black, and thats racist, makes sense right?

Only a handful people complain about black pete and those are people that can only see skincolor. Kind of ironic...

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Why don't they let black Dutch people play the role of black Pete? It seems it would be appropriate for them to play their role in the tradition. Why are no black people dressed up as black Pete?

There are. The Dutch Antilles celebrate this as well.

[Roald]

we even have a black sinterklaas!

[Tasty1]

Black Pete, only a few % against it and call it racism. They got a lot of airplay by the so called left wing tv stations that always must take care of the hurting of minority feelings. Cause they couldn't win the discussion they started protest at children party's to ruin the tradition with protest and get more attention. And ofcourse, they got more hate from people that like Black Pete. (action - reaction).

The whole discussion gave the right wing politician Geert Wilders at least 6 extra votes, cause people have enough being called racist even by the UN. And also some new-dutchman started their own political party saying everyone is racist and a former slave owner and islamofobic White must be reminded of how bad black people it had in history, islam is good and also for feminist etcetra. But they never picked cotton, i never owned a slave.

Next, all statues, street names, school names and every name that is connected with the VOC must be changed. After Black Pete, wiping out VOC history as something that was only bad. And than the next issue will be paying money for slavery or so. And what will be next? Maybe forbid names of people like "Piet" cause it could be a VOC captain 300 years ago.

And than the politicians wonder why a lot of people in Holland have enough of the EU telling them what to do and immigration problems.

And Holland is a little like the usa in small. The people against Zwarte Piet live in the Randstad (big cities like amsterdam, The Hague, Rotterdam) while in the rest of Holland just say fuck you to them. If they don't get threatened and put under pressure.

I wonder when the will forbid the name "Peter Stuyvesant" on any building or place.

[CurrentlySober]

i cunt a4d a pete...

[nico-t]

The narrative that 'its racist' is coming from Soros funded left extremist groups. These groups did not even exist 5 years ago. Nobody, including black Dutchies, gave it a second thought before these groups were artificially created. Now they use the exact same divide and conquer agenda to brainwash people as BLM does in the US. They create problems where no problem ever existed!

When i was a little kid i also had black kids among my friends and when you are that age you just don't think about skin color. Kids are not brainwashed yet into thinking that way. We all loved Sinterklaas whether you're black white or purple, and loved the black Petes because they give every kid candy. It's a fun innocent tradition kids of all races love, and it's for them.

It's not for whining, PC brainwashed adult assholes fucking it up. These fucking extremist idiots are even protesting at parades, and the kids are between them crying and not understanding why these weirdos are so angry at a fun family event. Way to go, tolerant leftwing cunts, you're making children cry. Rock bottom. Great success.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Tjeezers_Brokerbabe

a lot of dark coloured people in The Netherlands were really cool with our traditions, they even dressed up as Zwarte ( black) Piet, now they are not allowed to join this tradition anymore cause they are black, and thats racist, makes sense right?

This makes no sense. This exactly why I asked about this because often trends come from Europe to America and I see so many Europeans hating American liberals, but it's a far left stereotype. I'm thinking things are happening in Europe with your liberals that you think will trend to over here (not you personally).

I read that cartoons are legally being taken off sweets in Netherlands to avoid tempting children to eat junk food. Crazy! It seems heartless & stupid to me.

I think I better understand the populist movement sweeping Europe, it's because the far far left crazy liberals there are doing crazy stuff like this and people are revolting. American liberals would be considered very moderate and conservative compared to your country.

Who was behind the movement calling Zwarte Piet racist? Another country? Russians getting the blacks in your country angry to cause unrest with your traditions?

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I read that cartoons are legally being taken off sweets in Netherlands to avoid tempting children to eat junk food. Crazy! It seems heartless & stupid to me.

I said this to you in that thread you posted, i also pointed out that it was in the article: It is NOT illegal. It's an initiative of the food industry themselves to voluntarily counter kid obesity. Huge, huge difference. And you somehow hate this initiative which is pretty weird.

Like i said in the other thread: You should actually read the articles you post and not just read the sensational headlines.

[Hannes]

so if black people paint themselves white, are they then deemed racist?

[Bladewire]

I watched this clip about the Zwarte Piet & Krampus traditions and it confuses me. It shows Krampus like a black devil tormenting people and Zwarte Piet are his little evil elf helpers, and white Santa Clause and his elves are the good ones giving presents. In not making judgements just trying to understand.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

I said this to you in that thread you posted, i also pointed out that it was in the article: It is NOT illegal. It's an initiative of the food industry themselves to voluntarily counter kid obesity. Huge, huge difference. And you somehow hate this initiative which is pretty weird.

Like i said in the other thread: You should actually read the articles you post and not just read the sensational headlines.

I did read it. There are sweets & breakfast cereals here I grew up with where the packaging reminds me of my childhood and its fun. Food companies removing those and making them boring makes me a little sad actually. I think it's stupid to do that.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I did read it. There are sweets & breakfast cereals here I grew up with where the packaging reminds me of my childhood and its fun. Food companies removing those and making them boring makes me a little sad actually. I think it's stupid to do that.

I think it has more to do with parents not taking their responsibility and simply deny their kids the sugar rich crap they want because of fucking spongebob on it.

[baccybandit]

gangnam style!

[Tasty1]

The black pete discussion is everywhere the last 5 years. Ofcourse Black Pete changes. He used to scare people 50 years ago, now he is the one that is happy and make everyone smile.

Even some supermarkets banned Black Pete. No more pictures of black Pete. It is not forbidden, but they want all the customers. That with the cartoons on candy's is a different discussion. That is to prevent children crying and screaming for candy in the supermarket cause it is marketed with popluar cartoons. Or maybe they do it cause than the have a reason to ban Black Pete also.

But you hear hardly anyone about animals rights and how kosher and halal rituals conflict with the European norm and sold in the same supermarkets. And that is sold everywhere. But when people start against Dutch traditions, more people will stand up to those traditions as well. It divides everything and all people get less tolerant. And yes, George Soros is funding a lot. But also they get money from our government to inform people that black pete is racist.

It used to be a children party, now you see police everywhere. And at demonstrations they are also in favor of Palestina, against dutch King, bla bla.



I didn't watch that Krampus video cause it is just propaganda.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Black Pete, only a few % against it and call it racism. They got a lot of airplay by the so called left wing tv stations that always must take care of the hurting of minority feelings. Cause they couldn't win the discussion they started protest at children party's to ruin the tradition with protest and get more attention. And ofcourse, they got more hate from people that like Black Pete. (action - reaction).

The whole discussion gave the right wing politician Geert Wilders at least 6 extra votes, cause people have enough being called racist even by the UN. And also some new-dutchman started their own political party saying everyone is racist and a former slave owner and islamofobic White must be reminded of how bad black people it had in history, islam is good and also for feminist etcetra. But they never picked cotton, i never owned a slave.

Next, all statues, street names, school names and every name that is connected with the VOC must be changed. After Black Pete, wiping out VOC history as something that was only bad. And than the next issue will be paying money for slavery or so. And what will be next? Maybe forbid names of people like "Piet" cause it could be a VOC captain 300 years ago.

And than the politicians wonder why a lot of people in Holland have enough of the EU telling them what to do and immigration problems.

And Holland is a little like the usa in small. The people against Zwarte Piet live in the Randstad (big cities like amsterdam, The Hague, Rotterdam) while in the rest of Holland just say fuck you to them. If they don't get threatened and put under pressure.

I wonder when the will forbid the name "Peter Stuyvesant" on any building or place.

Wow! Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! Now I completely understand so much more about how this all started and the backlash against it. It seems like things are being pushed too far out of control to crazy.

I think when you try to alter core traditions in a society you shake people to the core. I think renaming things and trying to erase history & tradition is wrong and people should fight this to the death, I would. I think all of our countries and traditions & flaws make us uniqe, as do our successes and failures. Working together to prosper & for the good of the world is the right thing to do. Trying to make us all the same culture & beliefs is wrong, except for basic human rights.

Thanks again Bjorn

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Roald

we even have a black sinterklaas!

I'm glad I scrolled down this far, a thread saver

[rogueteens]

Us Brits can do that too ...



Morris dancers

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by Roald

we even have a black sinterklaas!

positive discrimination

[1BB]

thats so weird :S

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

There are. The Dutch Antilles celebrate this as well.

Yeah it's a Dutch territory of blacks in the Caribbean of course they're black there

The remnants of the profitable hub of the Dutch transatlantic slave trade. It was the last stop for Dutch ships full of slaves before they would be delivered to America.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Yeah it's a Dutch territory of blacks in the Caribbean of course they're black there

The remnants of the profitable hub of the Dutch transatlantic slave trade. It was the last stop for Dutch ships full of slaves before they would be delivered to America.

Yep. Just like all the black people in the western world. And? Your point was if any black people dressed like that. They do.

You cannot reason, you cannot read, you cannot discuss... christ, a foreigner to you, like me who's mother language isn't even English makes more sense than you!

You win teh prize!!!11!!!

[brassmonkey]

the fun ends with a big black cock and the husband watching his wife squealing like a pig.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the fun ends with a big black cock and the husband watching his wife squealing like a pig.

Wow, so that's your view of a foreign childrens party? Sick fuck

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Yep. Just like all the black people in the western world. And? Your point was if any black people dressed like that. They do.

You cannot reason, you cannot read, you cannot discuss... christ, a foreigner to you, like me who's mother language isn't even English makes more sense than you!

You win teh prize!!!11!!!

Simmer down Nico-T all in fun

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Black Pete, only a few % against it and call it racism. They got a lot of airplay by the so called left wing tv stations that always must take care of the hurting of minority feelings.

Keep your dykes, get rid of your kykes

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Yeah it's a Dutch territory of blacks in the Caribbean of course they're black there

The remnants of the profitable hub of the Dutch transatlantic slave trade. It was the last stop for Dutch ships full of slaves before they would be delivered to America.

Yes. And it was a first stop after a long journey. So the sick slaves get offboard there and the strongest went further. I lived some time on Bonaire and i must say, it looked like South Africa. One part black, poor, less educated. The nice part of the island rich, big villas, white people. The last years the finally invest in schools cause Holland took back some more financial control.

Where i live in Brazil there is also a Dutch fortress. But the Portuguese took it (we want compensation ;) The island where i am staying used to be a pirates nest. There must be two wrecks on the botom of the sea here. Saw also fortresses in Malaysia. In a small city here in Brazil is a brothel that is now a small museum. Guess what i saw there, wooden shoes... Dirty Dutchman.

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This is the first result I get on Google image search for Dutch Christmas. What is it? What results do you get?

[/center]

I am getting this

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

I am getting this

religion has always had wars. now the numbers are in a different direction. you do like china deny them any kind of power or you let them take over like indonesia

[Tasty1]

Yes, those could be the same group. Just looking for trouble and against everything that is white. I also don't understand why the guy starts shouting "Free Palestine" on stage when he is protesting against Black Pete. I think the rotesters are fifferent group who like to join eachother protests groups like; free palestine, refugees welcome, kick out Black Pete and burqa's welcome. All with a Geroge Soros smell.

I realy expected 5 years ago that Black Pete would disappear. All so called celebs that are only celebs in Holland against black pete. People afraid of talking about black pete cause it is racist. I also thought the tactics would be to destroy the childrens party so in the end everybody would have enough of it and abondonn black pete. But suddenly the forces that want to keep Black Pete grew. I see at my friend time list Black pete pictures, showing they keep celebrating it.

This is a Black Pete hater that makes shows for children. But when he asks if Black pete must stay black or give him some other colours, the children voted all black. See his disappointment... His reaction: "so nobody understands why Black Pete must be changed".



Can you believe it, a discussion about Black Pete that can make the difference between a Nexit or not...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Yes, those could be the same group. Just looking for trouble and against everything that is white. I also don't understand why the guy starts shouting "Free Palestine" on stage when he is protesting against Black Pete. I think the rotesters are fifferent group who like to join eachother protests groups like; free palestine, refugees welcome, kick out Black Pete and burqa's welcome. All with a Geroge Soros smell.

I realy expected 5 years ago that Black Pete would disappear. All so called celebs that are only celebs in Holland against black pete. People afraid of talking about black pete cause it is racist. I also thought the tactics would be to destroy the childrens party so in the end everybody would have enough of it and abondonn black pete. But suddenly the forces that want to keep Black Pete grew. I see at my friend time list Black pete pictures, showing they keep celebrating it.

This is a Black Pete hater that makes shows for children. But when he asks if Black pete must stay black or give him some other colours, the children voted all black. See his disappointment... His reaction: "so nobody understands why Black Pete must be changed".



Can you believe it, a discussion about Black Pete that can make the difference between a Nexit or not...

I'm glad black Pete and black Krampus are still strong in your culture, from what I've seen it's clear it's not a hateful or demeaning part of your folklore.

Your people and government need to fight hard against people not from your country or culture trying to change your country & culture. Fuck them! If you were in their country they'd force you, in your country you force them or they leave!

[romeo22]

The pic is associate with some Dutch tradition